1 additional area for improvement I would add is that it would have been great if Timemore included some kind of dust cover for the USB port. Inevitably this scale will be around liquid a lot, and it seems it would be really easy to get water in the port.
That's an excellent point. Though fortunately to date, I have not had an issue with the port, but I can see that being a concern if it's constantly exposed to a lot of moisture. Though to be fair the Acaia doesn't have a cover on the charging port either, and it stands up to the everyday abuse of a commercial environment.
I’ve had mine for over a year using it for pour overs and espresso shots. I haven’t noticed any water getting near the port, maybe because the scale is on the bigger side.
I never desired to invest on another scale ever since I got the Timemore Black mirror Pro simply bcoz of the fact that its features is way enough for me to make a nice cup of coffee
Great review! I will say, I’ve had a couple of mornings where I wasn’t able to find the power button right away on mine. But it takes less than 5 seconds to make sure you have the scale the right way and to find it!
Hey nice review! I am thinking on buing the Black Mirror Plus model (2021) and I would like your opinion regarding the app. Does it work well with android/iOS phones? Have you used it during the months of the review? Thank you!
I have a breville machine aswell. Is that scale too big? Seems like it wont fit on the tray of the breville. Does the whole scale have to be on a flat surface?
Friendly, accessible and pleasant review. Yes helpful. Thank you. Especially for explaining and demonstrating the auto-timer-start function. I didn't understand what it was, now it seems like a must-have, great function. A few questions please, if you'd be so kind. Can you put a portafilter on the silicon mat to weigh it? Or do you need to remove the mat, put the portafilter directly on the bare plastic, then put the mat back on before moving the scale to on top of the drip tray to measure your shot output? Can the silicon mat fit the feet of a Clever Dripper (~10.5cm diameter) with enough room to spare so it's not on the edge? The Clever has to brew directly on the scale, putting it on top of a cup or pitcher opens the drip hole letting it through the filter. Can you permanently turn off the beeps or have to hold down the timer button every single time? (In which case how would you press the timer button to start timing?) Does it auto tare or how does it know when to, if there's no such button? This is the first I'm considering buying so expensive a scale. (I was thinking about a Hario for ~$45 on Amazon or an ExoGram for $35) You're a good salesman.
thx also for naming the cons / flipside ❤ You could ad how often you load the battery and if water from steam etc is an possible issue for you. got an 30 euro cheaper scale for the recent 3 yrs. missed the sexyness, the usb loading feature and the auto timer a bit. So I just ordered black friday - for about 40 ish euro the basic +
I've also had the Black Mirror for several months following your first video. I agree with nearly all of your points. One question though, I want to be able to use the auto start timer for pour over. However the scale will stop the timer if it senses weight removed from it. Are you aware of a way to turn that feature off? For example if I do a swirl, it's often enough to stop the timer. I've seen foreign language videos where it seems like that's not the case for them, so I'm thinking there may be a different version unit out there, or perhaps I'm missing something. Great work as always!
First of all, thank you for the words of encouragement. Honestly the timer has only stopped for me once (with a long beep) when I removed the weight, I couldn't get my unit to replicate the problem since then. Normally the timer would continue to keep running if I remove the carafe. I did some search and found this reddit page that might be helpful www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/mmut5m/timemore_black_mirror_issues/ it seems that this "issue" will only exist in auto mode. To be honest, most of the time I start my timer manually, so that might also be the reason why I don't notice the issue. Hope this helps!! Thanks again for your support.
THE most important feature is not spoken about and that is accuracy to the 0.1g as this is important for esprersso. I have even seen on places that sell this that say its not accurate so was wondering what users say. Is it accurate to 0.1g? (Thats roughly one bean)
If I am not mistaken its the one with the Bluetooth app capability. Basically it will log all of your pour times and weights and allow you to notate things down about that specific pour. Personally I don't find it to be necessary, but it's a personal preference.
Yes, the Plus version is the 2021 version of the basic scale. Updates to the model include: - Refreshed internal hardware - New construction, sharper aesthetic - Physical on/off switch, side mounted - Laser-engraved buttons for increased tactile feel and visibility Just ordered mine: sigmacoffee.co.uk/products/blackmirrorplus
Sorry about the delayed response. In case if you have not received an answer for this, no it does not auto stop. However if it notice a disturbance in weight (like if you were to remove the carafe) it will pause the timer.
interesting news on the basic+ version, i just asked the store on Taobao CN, they said there is no basic+ version. But I also saw an unboxing video on the youtube too, a bit puzzled with the e-store response. Where did you see the basic+ on sale? thanks.
@@justinyaoxu I'm based in Singapore and online shopping sites such as Lazada and Shopee are all carrying the basic+ version. I got mine for around 37 USD. It is kind of a weird situation because even on Timemore's website, there is currently no information on the basic+ version.
@@yongweioh142 Yeah the basic plus version comes with much improved sensor and a physical on and off button. It just came out this year, Timemore has informed me that some stores will start carrying it soon in the US. Wish they would have had better marketing communication.
I bought and I get the defect one 😢 4 month regular / home usage the led flickering already (some of them dead) and some led on when it's not suppose to be make confusing read example 1 look like 7 __ | | | |
Is it possible to set the timer so it will beep at 4 minutes? I like to brew French press. I saw a scale called Hero on Amazon and it has a countdown timer. I don’t see any reviews on RUclips for this Hero scale. I’m trying to decide between the Hero and the black mirror scale.
Yes, as @bonk stated. Unfortunately it will not beep when it reaches a preset weight/time. The Hero scale seems to have a higher weight capacity at 5000 grams, as for the beeping, it will beep every minute, so not exactly at a preset time either. Though it's actually a quite good looking scale as well, I might give it a try once I save up some more funds.
TLDR; Product lasted 5 months, customer service does not even reply. I purchased the Timemore Pro scale. Living in Germany, there is basically no customer service for this product. I would never buy Timemore again. I am posting this under every review of this product.
I sell my timeMore nano … the lunar is more better .. better interface , better flowRate … And the taste on the side … side buttons are annoying The lunar is expensive, but the best
The Timemore is garbage. Mine became completely uncalibrated (and unusable) after only 2 months. Then, to add insult to the injury, Timemore ignored my emails about the issue and the scale is now an unusable piece of junk cluttering up one of my kitchen drawers.
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Thanks for being the only review I see comparing the black vs. the white - you definitely saved me there!
Thank you for spoiling the result in the title. I like anti-clickbaity titles
1 additional area for improvement I would add is that it would have been great if Timemore included some kind of dust cover for the USB port. Inevitably this scale will be around liquid a lot, and it seems it would be really easy to get water in the port.
That's an excellent point. Though fortunately to date, I have not had an issue with the port, but I can see that being a concern if it's constantly exposed to a lot of moisture. Though to be fair the Acaia doesn't have a cover on the charging port either, and it stands up to the everyday abuse of a commercial environment.
I’ve had mine for over a year using it for pour overs and espresso shots. I haven’t noticed any water getting near the port, maybe because the scale is on the bigger side.
Thanks for the review, very thorough.
Is this the basic or the plus?
I never desired to invest on another scale ever since I got the Timemore Black mirror Pro simply bcoz of the fact that its features is way enough for me to make a nice cup of coffee
Thanks for the video. I wonder, can I use it as kitchen scale instead?
I have a Delonghi Ec685r Dedica. I'm looking a scale for home using. Which should I select? Nano or plus version?
Great review! I will say, I’ve had a couple of mornings where I wasn’t able to find the power button right away on mine. But it takes less than 5 seconds to make sure you have the scale the right way and to find it!
Have you played with the Hario scale? I'm torn between the two.
Hey nice review! I am thinking on buing the Black Mirror Plus model (2021) and I would like your opinion regarding the app. Does it work well with android/iOS phones? Have you used it during the months of the review? Thank you!
I am currently testing the basic plus, I am not a big fan of the scale apps so I don't really use them. This includes the Acaia app as well.
I have a breville machine aswell. Is that scale too big? Seems like it wont fit on the tray of the breville. Does the whole scale have to be on a flat surface?
What about the searchpean tiny2 scale? It's more budget friendly, much smaller, still with usbc but the battery is smaller (800mah)
I have had it for 6 months aswell al good so far wouldnt change it
Is there any way to switch Timemore mirror plus to oz
Good observations. For a scale, this is still a premium price and it's quite low build quality considering.
I love this scale just as it is.
Friendly, accessible and pleasant review. Yes helpful. Thank you. Especially for explaining and demonstrating the auto-timer-start function. I didn't understand what it was, now it seems like a must-have, great function.
A few questions please, if you'd be so kind.
Can you put a portafilter on the silicon mat to weigh it? Or do you need to remove the mat, put the portafilter directly on the bare plastic, then put the mat back on before moving the scale to on top of the drip tray to measure your shot output?
Can the silicon mat fit the feet of a Clever Dripper (~10.5cm diameter) with enough room to spare so it's not on the edge? The Clever has to brew directly on the scale, putting it on top of a cup or pitcher opens the drip hole letting it through the filter.
Can you permanently turn off the beeps or have to hold down the timer button every single time? (In which case how would you press the timer button to start timing?)
Does it auto tare or how does it know when to, if there's no such button?
This is the first I'm considering buying so expensive a scale. (I was thinking about a Hario for ~$45 on Amazon or an ExoGram for $35) You're a good salesman.
is the measurement reliable?
thx for your nice vid. just ordered this scale as type basic+
thx also for naming the cons / flipside ❤ You could ad how often you load the battery and if water from steam etc is an possible issue for you.
got an 30 euro cheaper scale for the recent 3 yrs. missed the sexyness, the usb loading feature and the auto timer a bit.
So I just ordered black friday - for about 40 ish euro the basic +
thank you for making follow up reviews. liked and subbed.
I've also had the Black Mirror for several months following your first video. I agree with nearly all of your points. One question though, I want to be able to use the auto start timer for pour over. However the scale will stop the timer if it senses weight removed from it. Are you aware of a way to turn that feature off? For example if I do a swirl, it's often enough to stop the timer. I've seen foreign language videos where it seems like that's not the case for them, so I'm thinking there may be a different version unit out there, or perhaps I'm missing something. Great work as always!
First of all, thank you for the words of encouragement. Honestly the timer has only stopped for me once (with a long beep) when I removed the weight, I couldn't get my unit to replicate the problem since then. Normally the timer would continue to keep running if I remove the carafe. I did some search and found this reddit page that might be helpful www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/mmut5m/timemore_black_mirror_issues/ it seems that this "issue" will only exist in auto mode. To be honest, most of the time I start my timer manually, so that might also be the reason why I don't notice the issue. Hope this helps!! Thanks again for your support.
When that happens to me, I usually just tap the timer button again and the timer resumes
My black one stopped working in less that 6 months. Good to use before then. (Returned to Amazon who gave me a refund.)
Any idea how to switch the scale to grams. Mine refuses to do it no matter all the instructions and post about this scale.
great review!
can u do a review for the nano scale?
THE most important feature is not spoken about and that is accuracy to the 0.1g as this is important for esprersso. I have even seen on places that sell this that say its not accurate so was wondering what users say. Is it accurate to 0.1g? (Thats roughly one bean)
great video! do you know abt the newest version of the black mirror called blackmirror plus?? i wonder if thats real or not Thanksss!
If I am not mistaken its the one with the Bluetooth app capability. Basically it will log all of your pour times and weights and allow you to notate things down about that specific pour. Personally I don't find it to be necessary, but it's a personal preference.
Yes, the Plus version is the 2021 version of the basic scale.
Updates to the model include:
- Refreshed internal hardware
- New construction, sharper aesthetic
- Physical on/off switch, side mounted
- Laser-engraved buttons for increased tactile feel and visibility
Just ordered mine:
sigmacoffee.co.uk/products/blackmirrorplus
For the price and the functions, it’s the best. I still wish/hope they’ll make one smaller to compete against the Acaia lunar.
Yes absolutely. I honestly think this one works better than the Pearl.
They launched a new one called timemore nano this year if I’m correct
@@XICups sorry, that's just not the case, acaia is miles ahead, from quality, to specs, to user experience.
Thank you for this review. Unfortunately, this background music is too loud..
Awesome review !
The auto function only automatically start but doesn't automatically stop. Is that right?
Sorry about the delayed response. In case if you have not received an answer for this, no it does not auto stop. However if it notice a disturbance in weight (like if you were to remove the carafe) it will pause the timer.
Can anyone tell me if its water resistant? I dont expext water proof but resistance would be nice
Timemore now has a 2021 version, the black mirror basic plus:) Would be great to see a video review on this channel
Yeah, I am actually going to reach out to Timemore to get a bit more information on the new one and the differences.
interesting news on the basic+ version, i just asked the store on Taobao CN, they said there is no basic+ version. But I also saw an unboxing video on the youtube too, a bit puzzled with the e-store response. Where did you see the basic+ on sale? thanks.
@@justinyaoxu I'm based in Singapore and online shopping sites such as Lazada and Shopee are all carrying the basic+ version. I got mine for around 37 USD. It is kind of a weird situation because even on Timemore's website, there is currently no information on the basic+ version.
@@yongweioh142 Yeah the basic plus version comes with much improved sensor and a physical on and off button. It just came out this year, Timemore has informed me that some stores will start carrying it soon in the US. Wish they would have had better marketing communication.
pleaase help , the screen shows the word (cup) what dose that mean and how can I remove it 😭🙀❤
Great video, thanks!
Bought the plus version. It has an on/off switch and the on/off and timer buttons are engraved onto it.
Yep, I am in the process of testing that unit as well.
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Anyway i also love your vdo, very useful and information❤️🤘🏻thanks bro
Timemore released another update to this scale, the Black Mirror Basic Plus* - with refreshed internals and engraved buttons
Sounds great, I should try to grab one.
Can you do a review on the TImemore Nano please?
Gonna try to get my hands on those as soon as they are more widely available. Finally got the basic plus, which I am in the process of testing.
@@XICups OK cool, Happy New Year Bro
Can I put a portafilter on it?
Yes you can, as the surface is big enough.
After a year of using it, it starts to error
My go to for pour overs at this point :)
Glad to see that I am not the only one.
I bought and I get the defect one 😢
4 month regular / home usage the led flickering already (some of them dead)
and some led on when it's not suppose to be make confusing read
example 1 look like 7
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My biggest gripe is size. I really can't use it on my expresso machine
They are making a smaller version that will hopefully be out in the US soon.
Is it possible to set the timer so it will beep at 4 minutes? I like to brew French press. I saw a scale called Hero on Amazon and it has a countdown timer. I don’t see any reviews on RUclips for this Hero scale. I’m trying to decide between the Hero and the black mirror scale.
It is not. The only extra functionality it has is the ability to start the timer when it detects water being poured / an increase in weight.
Yes, as @bonk stated. Unfortunately it will not beep when it reaches a preset weight/time. The Hero scale seems to have a higher weight capacity at 5000 grams, as for the beeping, it will beep every minute, so not exactly at a preset time either. Though it's actually a quite good looking scale as well, I might give it a try once I save up some more funds.
TLDR; Product lasted 5 months, customer service does not even reply.
I purchased the Timemore Pro scale. Living in Germany, there is basically no customer service for this product. I would never buy Timemore again.
I am posting this under every review of this product.
Your bg audio is too loud
Wish it was thinner
It would be great if the scale was accurate no matter where you placed an object on the scale.
I find that to be true for most purposes
I sell my timeMore nano … the lunar is more better .. better interface , better flowRate …
And the taste on the side … side buttons are annoying
The lunar is expensive, but the best
Have a Hario now, it's wonky, works when it wants to. Will not buy a scale that's not rechargeable in the future.
The Timemore is garbage. Mine became completely uncalibrated (and unusable) after only 2 months. Then, to add insult to the injury, Timemore ignored my emails about the issue and the scale is now an unusable piece of junk cluttering up one of my kitchen drawers.
"Scale only has grams" How is that a flaw? Filthy freedom unit users
Why speak like you are rushing?