I tried this watch on and as it is black, it gives the impression that it is smaller than its size. Even on the wrist. That's probably why they have only released this in the large. Added bonus for some is that it has a date. Tried on the stainless steel medium and large, and the large comes across as too big for my 7 inch wrist. Looks like a square block on the wrist rather than the medium which looks more refined and smoother fit. The black santos however, looks in proportion.
@@richardman28 If you have a 7inch wrist, the unisex sized medium looks on the dainty side. They both are square cased watches, so I don't get the block comment. I own the 2 tone 39.8mm and my girlfriend rocks the 39.8mm stainless stainless model. Her wrist is substantially smaller than 7 inches, but the curved design of the case and how the bracelet hugs her wrist is anything but a block. No offense intended, you buy and wear what you want in good health. But the big boy version of the Santos all day.
@@rafaeloliva6425 no offensive taken. That's why we collect watches. Everyone has their own opinions and how they see design. Having handled alot of Cartier santos models in the past, the XL Galbee is the best proptioned in my opinion. I do stand by my comment that the large looks like a block on my wrist compared to the other Santos and my other square case watches. The reason being because of the size you don't see much of the bracelet which is one of the selling features of the watch. Also, every wrist is different as you may have a flat top on the wrist or a rounder wrist which was pointed out by my vacheron AD when I collected a watch and deciding whether the rubber or the leather strap looked better on my wrist. Wear your watches in good health. 👍
Cartier all day over a Panerai. The Santos has solidified well over 100 years of a watch that hits on all cylinders. It’s dress, sports, 100m WR, tool, and the first men’s wrist watch. I like the look of Panerai but not a huge fan of their movements for the price. I respect that Panerai also haven’t changed their design though
Enjoying the Cartier in bad ass black - it looks like it would be equally at home with a Tux or with a Boss leather jacket. I’ve tried on the vanilla white dial and although I only have a 7 inch wrist it hugs the wrist in a very comfortable way. I’d be a little concerned about scuffing the watch and the steel beneath showing through so you’d have to be extra careful with it. But it looks cool. I’d want 20% off retail.
What do you mean Cartier isn't known for their boxes? That's literally one of the most important and recognisable parts of the brand. The box is so nice and one of the best parts of the buying experience.
Santos looks elegant yet sporty. Submersible looks very sporty and looks like a watch that can actually take a beating. I think the Cartier is more versatile, it can be worn with anything. It can be that one watch collection piece, whereas with the Panerai you would need another watch. No clear winner for me personally though, I like them both! But if it would be one watch, then i’m going for Cartier.
I have the Cartier in stainless and love it. I put it on that black rubber strap and it’s like a whole new watch. Would love to get the black ADLC version. I also have three Panerai which I love.
Thank you for the video. I own the Santos 39.8mm 2 tone, and my girlfriend rocks the 39.8mm in stainless steel. The main issue is that the bezels are prone to scratch easily. However, both of these build materials are easily polished. I'm told the black Santos has a much more scratch resistant finish. But what recourse does a potential buyer have if they do manage to scratch this model? Thank you in advance to anyone that can answer my question.
Exactly same reason I came to check the comments, dis you get yours? I don't Wana go to the AD and test the scratching, brushed Rolexes are OK, my AP are not and don't like wearing under stress anymore
I have both...and enjoy both. We aren't talking about whether skinny jeans happen to be in style this season. This is a discussion about two watch brands with long and interesting histories.
@@TrendyStone its the fact they are trying to position themselves above the quality of finishing, build quality and movement - and they've been caught out pretending some movements are in house
@@michaelbishop9157 The “in house movement” smoke-and-mirrors trick is played by almost every company in the industry. It’s an old story…boring…and doesn’t interest me.
@@TrendyStone they've been caught out lying so many times and have little credibility as a brand as a result. Hard to see much of a future for Panerai when they have lost all that early cachet
@@michaelbishop9157 Maybe. I just think they're cool...and apparently many other people do also. I've had my 111 for 15 years...and it doesn't have an in-house movement. Frankly, the average person just goes into a boutique...perhaps during their vacation...tries on a few watches...and buys the one they like best. All the focus on movements, etc. just isn't on the radar for the average consumer.
Panerai is the worse watch to buy if you plan on Not Keeping it .. I just got rid a my Luminor Marina and I almost lost my rear end on it almost 50% depreciation in 1 year so I unloaded it as fast as I could for the new Cartier Santos XL chronograph.. I love this piece and don't know why I wasted my money on the Panerai
Wow, sorry you took that kind of hit. I'm not a fan of Panerai, but hope you're enjoying enjoying the Cartier. I admittedly am a Rolex guy all day, but my Santos de Cartier large 2 tone has cut into my Rolexes wrist time in a big way. Wear your watches in good health.
Dude. I was sure you were going to say in the Panerai history that Rolex supplied the movements in them back in the day!....but it never came man! Lol. Google more before the show. Lol Own goal from the big man Karar being the Rolex fan boy. I'm only joking buddy. But kudos ultimately...i do appreciate listening to you both...and to decide to review 2 brands which are not "popular"/ "dogs" now.....deemed by the garbage that are watch buyers/people apparently interested in watches now...is refreshing and the way to go. Keep it up lads.
For me, a watch review loses a bit of credibility if the reviewer doesn’t know the pronunciation of the brand he’s reviewing: Cartier is not that difficult . Certainly not like Jaeger- LeCoultre !
Whatever stealth machine dude! Your bitching about a $7,700 Santos or as you wrote "Santis." But you'll take an $19000 rubber strapped Panerai instead. FYI the Santos has been Cartier most popular sports watch for decades.
Before reviewing these beautiful watches, may I suggest to learn how to properly pronounce their brand names? It is irritating to listen to Cartier with an R at the end.
Dude, is all it takes to get under your skin? There is a fine line between correcting and education someone and being a douche. Guess where that comment lands.
Not a fan of Panerai, but I wouldn't call then trash. But 19000 euros for that watch is absurd! Especially when the much more classy and versatile Cartier is less than 8000 euros.
The carbotech is more that two times the amount and they’re garbage. The Cartier all day I’ve had 111s, and two ceramic black seals and they’re junk that used Rolex movements during WW2 and didn’t exist before Stallone started wearing them in movies. The Cartier is pure class and has pedigree. Panerai is so bad that they can’t even tell the difference between real vs reps themselves. The only Panerai worth owning is the Bronzo
Until the pandemic, gray market and second hand Rolexes and Pateks and the others were always much lower than retail. This insane switch where retail os lower than second hand is caused by gray market and second hand seller companies cornering the market and Millennials making a ton of money of social media. Happened 25 years ago with sneakers. Sad.
@@michaelclaypool5330 Not true at all. Except for iced Mike the Daytona they were well below retail. I’ve been collecting for 35 years. DJ, OP, Explorer, Explorer 2, Milgauss, Day - Date, Air King all well below retail for decades until about 2017-2018. In fact bought a 39mm Explorer in 2017 used for $4K in excellent condition.
That Santis is trying to be something it isn’t. Why buy an expensive watch to pretend that it is a stealth machine. There are far better watches at a more modest price range which give off better stealth vibes and which are intended to be stealth machines. It is just pretentious. I’d go for the Panerai, but again the same reasoning applies which again is pretentious. Far better to have both designs in their original design format.
I'm 95% sure I'm going to pull the trigger on this Cartier watch very soon. I'm in love with this black version!
BTW guys, thank you for this amazing video!
So?
i have it and it's my favorite watch. most comfortable by far
I bought my first luxury watch! It’s the Santos de Cartier in the medium two-tone color way.
Cartier definitely should do it in the medium for this and the sunburst blue and grey dial🙂
I tried this watch on and as it is black, it gives the impression that it is smaller than its size. Even on the wrist. That's probably why they have only released this in the large. Added bonus for some is that it has a date. Tried on the stainless steel medium and large, and the large comes across as too big for my 7 inch wrist. Looks like a square block on the wrist rather than the medium which looks more refined and smoother fit. The black santos however, looks in proportion.
Disagree.medium is small for men a.my wrist is sm as ll,but I wear large watches
@@richardman28
If you have a 7inch wrist, the unisex sized medium looks on the dainty side.
They both are square cased watches, so I don't get the block comment. I own the 2 tone 39.8mm and my girlfriend rocks the 39.8mm stainless stainless model. Her wrist is substantially smaller than 7 inches, but the curved design of the case and how the bracelet hugs her wrist is anything but a block.
No offense intended, you buy and wear what you want in good health.
But the big boy version of the Santos all day.
@@rafaeloliva6425 no offensive taken. That's why we collect watches. Everyone has their own opinions and how they see design. Having handled alot of Cartier santos models in the past, the XL Galbee is the best proptioned in my opinion. I do stand by my comment that the large looks like a block on my wrist compared to the other Santos and my other square case watches. The reason being because of the size you don't see much of the bracelet which is one of the selling features of the watch. Also, every wrist is different as you may have a flat top on the wrist or a rounder wrist which was pointed out by my vacheron AD when I collected a watch and deciding whether the rubber or the leather strap looked better on my wrist. Wear your watches in good health. 👍
@@richardman28
I do love exchanging opinions and information with other watch aficionados.
Again wear yours in good health.
Cartier all day over a Panerai. The Santos has solidified well over 100 years of a watch that hits on all cylinders. It’s dress, sports, 100m WR, tool, and the first men’s wrist watch. I like the look of Panerai but not a huge fan of their movements for the price. I respect that Panerai also haven’t changed their design though
Nice summary. Couldn’t agree more on all your points.
I have both. For some reason I wear the Panerai more but I really like the Santos too.
Panerais are junk
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Enjoying the Cartier in bad ass black - it looks like it would be equally at home with a Tux or with a Boss leather jacket. I’ve tried on the vanilla white dial and although I only have a 7 inch wrist it hugs the wrist in a very comfortable way. I’d be a little concerned about scuffing the watch and the steel beneath showing through so you’d have to be extra careful with it. But it looks cool. I’d want 20% off retail.
DLC is very hard to scratch
DLC is scratch resistant, but aren't you screwed if it is scratched?
@@rafaeloliva6425 pretty much yes. It would look bad. Cartier would happily sell you a replacement.
I love Panerai!! My favourite watch brand.
What do you mean Cartier isn't known for their boxes? That's literally one of the most important and recognisable parts of the brand. The box is so nice and one of the best parts of the buying experience.
Nice VDO, I currently own this PAM , thinking of getting myself a Santos for Christmas. Good VDO
I wish cartier made a black metal bracelet for santos :( I love the black one sooooo much but I am a sucker for metal bracelet
thats the only thing holding me back on buying it, did you find any after market ?
Santos looks elegant yet sporty. Submersible looks very sporty and looks like a watch that can actually take a beating. I think the Cartier is more versatile, it can be worn with anything. It can be that one watch collection piece, whereas with the Panerai you would need another watch. No clear winner for me personally though, I like them both! But if it would be one watch, then i’m going for Cartier.
Thank you for your video...I couldn't decide on one or the other so I would have to buy both of them.
I have the Cartier in stainless and love it. I put it on that black rubber strap and it’s like a whole new watch. Would love to get the black ADLC version. I also have three Panerai which I love.
i love the black cartier. im waiting for the possibility of a medium size.
Buy the big boy version! I wear the large 2 tone and my petite sized girlfriend rocks the stainless steel version.
One I absolutely love, and one I wouldn't consider.
I will take both watches. Cartier at 39.5mm is perfect.
Almost 19000 euros for the Panerai! For a rubber strapped watch no way.
The Santos rocks!
I think this'll be my next watch... Cartier Santos ADLC
This Submersible is at least twice as expensive as this Santos.... But i would prefer the latter...
Thank you for the video.
I own the Santos 39.8mm 2 tone, and my girlfriend rocks the 39.8mm in stainless steel. The main issue is that the bezels are prone to scratch easily.
However, both of these build materials are easily polished. I'm told the black Santos has a much more scratch resistant finish. But what recourse does a potential buyer have if they do manage to scratch this model?
Thank you in advance to anyone that can answer my question.
I could not imagine paying almost 19,000 euros for a watch that looks like that!
Large Santos de Cartier all day boys!
Imagine this in medium with full ADLC bracelet 😮💨
100%
Knowing Now what I didn't Know Then I would get the Cartier 10 times over any Panerai
Cartier a classic. Like the 911 🚘
That Cartier is gorgeous and that Panerai........has very large crownguards.
Got your casioak limited 125 pcs abd enjoy it everyday
Can you guys PLEASE review models from the Cartier Collection Privee range? I love the Cintree, Tonneau, Cloche, etc.
We will see what we can get our hands on 🙏🏼
I like Panerai a lot, but their pricing has become ridiculous.
The panarei should go vs the omega seamaster M all black ceramic!
That Santos looks nice. But is that coating delicate? Too risky to use as a desk diver at the office?
Exactly same reason I came to check the comments, dis you get yours? I don't Wana go to the AD and test the scratching, brushed Rolexes are OK, my AP are not and don't like wearing under stress anymore
The ADLC coating holds up extremely well.
I need the PAM 1324!
Can Cartier please make this watch in a medium!!!
Price of the Santos?
The Cartier is badass; the Panerai is for badasses.
Love the Cartier. Are people really still buying Panerai ?
I have both...and enjoy both. We aren't talking about whether skinny jeans happen to be in style this season. This is a discussion about two watch brands with long and interesting histories.
@@TrendyStone its the fact they are trying to position themselves above the quality of finishing, build quality and movement - and they've been caught out pretending some movements are in house
@@michaelbishop9157 The “in house movement” smoke-and-mirrors trick is played by almost every company in the industry. It’s an old story…boring…and doesn’t interest me.
@@TrendyStone they've been caught out lying so many times and have little credibility as a brand as a result. Hard to see much of a future for Panerai when they have lost all that early cachet
@@michaelbishop9157 Maybe. I just think they're cool...and apparently many other people do also. I've had my 111 for 15 years...and it doesn't have an in-house movement. Frankly, the average person just goes into a boutique...perhaps during their vacation...tries on a few watches...and buys the one they like best. All the focus on movements, etc. just isn't on the radar for the average consumer.
Anyone know Alex's wrist size?
Panerai is the worse watch to buy if you plan on Not Keeping it .. I just got rid a my Luminor Marina and I almost lost my rear end on it almost 50% depreciation in 1 year so I unloaded it as fast as I could for the new Cartier Santos XL chronograph.. I love this piece and don't know why I wasted my money on the Panerai
Wow, sorry you took that kind of hit. I'm not a fan of Panerai, but hope you're enjoying enjoying the Cartier.
I admittedly am a Rolex guy all day, but my Santos de Cartier large 2 tone has cut into my Rolexes wrist time in a big way.
Wear your watches in good health.
Dude. I was sure you were going to say in the Panerai history that Rolex supplied the movements in them back in the day!....but it never came man! Lol. Google more before the show. Lol
Own goal from the big man Karar being the Rolex fan boy. I'm only joking buddy.
But kudos ultimately...i do appreciate listening to you both...and to decide to review 2 brands which are not "popular"/ "dogs" now.....deemed by the garbage that are watch buyers/people apparently interested in watches now...is refreshing and the way to go. Keep it up lads.
2yrs later Panerai going from strength to Strength
Dude Cartier " not popular" are you insane. They are number 2 only to Rolex in the Swiss watch market.
Cartier, easy. The Panarai screams ripe d-bag.
For me, a watch review loses a bit of credibility if the reviewer doesn’t know the pronunciation of the brand he’s reviewing: Cartier is not that difficult . Certainly not like Jaeger- LeCoultre !
So true!
He said it correctly first and then emphasized the “r” the second time.
Who cares if he sounds like Jed Clampet if his knowledge is on point.
It's pronounced "Car-tee-eh". Like U S A (eh).
Funny that they mentioned the luxurious box,,, who cares about the box? I sure don't
Patek Philip has the most stunning box. The box itself cost thousands dollars already.
It annoys me you cant get a date on the medium and you cant get no date on a large ... Lovely watch though
No R in Cartier just a A Cartiea
Whatever stealth machine dude!
Your bitching about a $7,700 Santos or as you wrote "Santis." But you'll take an $19000 rubber strapped Panerai instead. FYI the Santos has been Cartier most popular sports watch for decades.
Before reviewing these beautiful watches, may I suggest to learn how to properly pronounce their brand names?
It is irritating to listen to Cartier with an R at the end.
Dude, is all it takes to get under your skin?
There is a fine line between correcting and education someone and being a douche.
Guess where that comment lands.
17k for the crappiest brand watch of all…panarei haha
Not a fan of Panerai, but I wouldn't call then trash. But 19000 euros for that watch is absurd!
Especially when the much more classy and versatile Cartier is less than 8000 euros.
The carbotech is more that two times the amount and they’re garbage. The Cartier all day
I’ve had 111s, and two ceramic black seals and they’re junk that used Rolex movements during WW2 and didn’t exist before Stallone started wearing them in movies. The Cartier is pure class and has pedigree. Panerai is so bad that they can’t even tell the difference between real vs reps themselves.
The only Panerai worth owning is the Bronzo
Panerai were around before Sly wore one. Plus Cartier get the movements from the Richmont group anyway.
That was harsh dude, but can't contradict anything you said. Love my Santos de cartier Large. Santos all day!
Panerai sucks. Cartier all day
Until the pandemic, gray market and second hand Rolexes and Pateks and the others were always much lower than retail. This insane switch where retail os lower than second hand is caused by gray market and second hand seller companies cornering the market and Millennials making a ton of money of social media. Happened 25 years ago with sneakers. Sad.
LOL Rolex was never lower than retail other than a few different styles
@@michaelclaypool5330 Not true at all. Except for iced Mike the Daytona they were well below retail. I’ve been collecting for 35 years. DJ, OP, Explorer, Explorer 2, Milgauss, Day - Date, Air King all well below retail for decades until about 2017-2018. In fact bought a 39mm Explorer in 2017 used for $4K in excellent condition.
That Santis is trying to be something it isn’t. Why buy an expensive watch to pretend that it is a stealth machine. There are far better watches at a more modest price range which give off better stealth vibes and which are intended to be stealth machines. It is just pretentious. I’d go for the Panerai, but again the same reasoning applies which again is pretentious. Far better to have both designs in their original design format.