After WW2 the British army didn't believe snipers were a major requirement so cut back on training, the Royal Marines thought differently and invested heavily in sniper training going on to create the best course of its type in the armed forces. It had such a high reputation that when I served it was considered the goto course for snipers and you'd often find SAS troopers on it.
The sniper course was a part of PW Wing at what was ITCRM Lympstone when I was a platoon weapons Instructor there in the 1960s/early 1970s. It was, and still is, a very tough course and only the very best passed and earned the right to wear that coveted badge. My shooting was consistently graded as marksman on the range, but I never considered myself good enough to even apply for the sniper course. Respect to all that pass. Former Royal Marine.
3:11 This moment is really impressive! I didn't know that wind can have such a big effect on bullets, especially when the target is far away, Having to calculate every single factor like this really shows that the skill and knowledge of a sniper is much more than just aiming and shooting
Great video. I would love to get my hands on this weapon system, I used the L96 A1 when I was a sniper. So obviously a long time ago. Well done to all these guys.
It's just a Kestrel 5700, likely the Elite though it could be the X model. Commercially available, guys use them for everything from 22lr all the way up to ELR calibers. The custom drag models supplied by Applied Ballistics are fantastic too, and provided you have the correct muzzle velocity and your rifle is set up properly, you can get some impressive first round impacts.
@@michaelturner6361 so raw talent is minimised? My dad as teenage cadet! Won 🥇 a Lewis gun competition that started at 800yrds ! And went every hundred down ! Popup manned Targets required three round burst max !!!! Won by a country mile apparently against the ! Army, navy & airforce
@@robertwoodroffe123 not entirely, you still need to be able to shoot well, just takes a lot of the mental gymnastics away from it. You see dentists out-shooting SWAT guys at PRS competitions.
@@michaelturner6361 u suck You would be a jelly fish 🎣 to live through that !? Or more likely dead like so many were So what’s ur pedigree? When it comes to metal flying?
4:29 Mad respect to the lefty sniper rockin the Casio F91W Series watch, that thing was my pride and joy back in my high school days just before graduation. I used my own $ from work delivering news papers by going house to house on my BMX bicycle at 5 AM in the mornings before heading to school like way back when in 1989. Instead of acquiring some extravagant and pricy timepiece on his wrist that would just scream 'over kill' he chose the minimalist (like a 14 dollar watch) mind set and focus his prioritizes on the primary tools at hand. Point being, you can def. learn a lil bit about a guy by the watch he wears.
This is the first animation that ive seen where they show the bullet dropping from the very second it leaves the barrel. Theres more people than you would ever believe that think the bullet rises above the center line of the barrel and then gradually drops as it travels, which is crazy but people really think thats what happens
If the optic is level with the ground, the barrel need to point a tad upwards (in order to hit where you are aiming) and the bullet will have this upward path. If the barrel is level with the ground, the optic need to point a tad downward, and the bullet will start dropping the moment it leaves the barrel :)
@@andysykes4328 How can the bullet ever travel higher than the center line of the barrel??? Forget about a scope on the rifle, when a bullet travels down a barrel, when it leaves the muzzle gravity is pulling that bullet down, from the very millisecond it leaves the end of the barrel. So if this was the barrel ---------- it doesn't matter what direction or elevation it is pointed, when that bullet follows that line, it never ever rises above that line at any point. It falls from the very second it leaves the barrel. I know your not that stupid to think the bullet can rise above the barrel center line it has travelled along at any time
When he's holding the kestrel for wind where they're shooting from, at long distances can't crosswinds be going different directions and strengths so how would you be able to make any scope adjustments for that?? This is a good documentary, the older one is good too.
That's where the art comes in. The tech does the heavy lifting, but when it comes to judging what the wind is going downrange, you still need skill and lots of experience.
@BIGDipsy yeah that makes sense, I'm sure in most places there will probably be some vegetation or other light movable items closer to target that would give at least some ideas.
I scored 44 out of 50 when the Chepstow Conservative Club vs the Sergeants’ Mess at Beachley Camp invited us to a rematch after we beat them in a snooker match. The sergeants laid on a night to remember. Darts, carpet bowls, snooker, crib and shooting match with the SLR. My practice was 44/50 which the sergeant said was sniper class 35 being the pass mark. Afterwards we had a British Army curry; no one does a better curry than the British Army. A night to remember and cherish.
@JammyDodger45 You might be right. The British snipers are better off using iron sights, far more combat proven than modern optical reticles. What a fukn genius you are.
@JammyDodger45 The irony is hilarious, considering it's your logic I'm mocking to begin with. Remarkable how you didn't notice and ended up criticizing it yourself. Seems safe for me to assume that you've never looked through a modern rifle scope with a tremor/mil scale or a mil dot reticle yet have an opinion on it. The difference is night and day, and here, British snipers are using the lesser of the two options.
it looks like a simplified version of the us marines core scout sniper course which was around approx 10 plus years ago where even then there was a further advance sniper course and has since been replaced with a better course for usa snipers
I did my police rifle marksman qualifier at Deer Hill and it were reet windy. At 500, according to the flags the wind was going in 4 different directions between the target and me. I passed using a .308 with no Schmidt und Bender scope and no "shooting computer" thingy.
Nice one, you didn't do even a quarter of the rest of the stuff these guys do though. I'm ex military and police, I'm sick of armed policing being compared to the likes of RM or uksf, nowhere near the same.
Snipers are / were the most hated people 😮 on their own side 😢 I whiteness’ed this personally ! In 1982’ in a local historic Pub ! Helping my father move to his other farm ! Winter and my gum boots were muddy ,from preparing a dilapidated shed for move , so a local guy ( bohemian!? ) famous bohemian pub ! Puhoi ! Comes up to my dad and calls him a murder! Because he had become sniper! ( after Monti Cassino ! ) guy proceeded to say that down in the town of Monte Cassino , they were gathered around heating some food 🍲 around a fire 🔥 and one of them taken out / hit by German sniper! And that snipers were the worst! At same point in time my father and his company up the hill with nothing in the way of food! some of were being killed by friendly fire ! As parts of smoke projectiles the Indian mountain troops requested feel on them ( my father’s company) 25lb smoke shell outer casings ( could hear 👂 them for a second before as going end over end and slowish! But the iron base plug less noise and faster killed and wounded many of his company! Friendly fire ! No joke That dad and others were able to get back through German lines and not POW s was a blessing After he came out of hospital was when he was made head sniper of unique nz sniper squad! And was pay back time !
My dad saw an ultra Decrypt derived intel that said the German HQ was abandoning / retreat at 2 pm the next day ! As the person whom, was the head sniper, he and his squad eliminated the HQ at 2 pm !!! Intel bonanza !?
That could never have happened. Dissemination of Ultra was at such a high level, that there were only 40 Special Liaison Officers across the Army and Air Force, who could disclose information to Army/RAF Commanders (as in the Army Commander himself) or to a limited number of suitably indoctrinated Staff Officers, who were vetted to see Ultra Secret intelligence Random people didn't see Ultra Decrypts. D
@@robertwoodroffe123 I'm removing nothing. What you originally stated could never have happened. Ultra intelligence was disseminated at Army Group/Army level, not at Regimental level or below. If a sniper team was given a tasking, they would not have seen, nor have been advised of Ultra as a source. D
@@derekowens1817 in the British army !! We talking NZ division! and my father never knew what ultra was ! He saw intel and acted on it ! The truth My father was attached to MI After he apparently?? Opted out ! Was sent to Palestine etc have the pictures ! He bought my mother a French bathing suit in Tel Aviv .
@@robertwoodroffe123 so he wouldn't have seen an Ultra decrypt, as you claimed, and intelligence would have briefed snipers and they would have been tasked accordingly, so he wouldn't have been acting on intelligence that he chanced upon. Family lore is a bit of a bummer, when people make nonsense statements based on it......
And the vast majority that join in countries where firearms ownership is legal and encouraged within society don't either. IL also add that last year a few royal marines got loaded onto the marsoc raider OTC, the RM lads came top on the barrier entry shooting test...womp womp wommppp
The humid air has more water in it, making it thicker, thus slowing the bullet. But warmer air holds more water, cancelling the effect - happy to be corrected ! @@toddb930
After WW2 the British army didn't believe snipers were a major requirement so cut back on training, the Royal Marines thought differently and invested heavily in sniper training going on to create the best course of its type in the armed forces. It had such a high reputation that when I served it was considered the goto course for snipers and you'd often find SAS troopers on it.
I believe two guys from 40 Commando A coy came 3rd in the US special forces sniper competition very impressive considering RM aren't SF
@@TheDriverScotlandRoyal Marines commandos pretty much are special forces, given the training they get.
@@TheDriverScotland Royal Marines.
Sniping was investied heavily in the 2000 not just Marines lol
@@ifv2089 My comment related to what happened after WW2, (which ended in 1945 not 2000:)
"... and effective at harassing a target out to 1500 meters" - excellent choice of words 😂
The sniper course was a part of PW Wing at what was ITCRM Lympstone when I was a platoon weapons Instructor there in the 1960s/early 1970s. It was, and still is, a very tough course and only the very best passed and earned the right to wear that coveted badge. My shooting was consistently graded as marksman on the range, but I never considered myself good enough to even apply for the sniper course.
Respect to all that pass.
Former Royal Marine.
Sniper Div is in Sennybridge
Excellent video with lots of concise and accurate information. Well done
5:05 that hot brass down his sleeve… subconsciously saying to himself hmm, toasty! 💪🏼😅🫡
Yes, this is what I'm talking about. I take my hat off to you all who have served and who are serving still 🙏🏽🎯🔫
USMC sniper School 40 years ago, at least somebody else realized the value. Although we only shot at 1000 meters then.
My dad was inaugural head / in command of nz div sniper squad of eight? Italy 1944’ ww2 , and chose their missions ! 😅
3:11 This moment is really impressive! I didn't know that wind can have such a big effect on bullets, especially when the target is far away, Having to calculate every single factor like this really shows that the skill and knowledge of a sniper is much more than just aiming and shooting
Great video. I would love to get my hands on this weapon system, I used the L96 A1 when I was a sniper. So obviously a long time ago. Well done to all these guys.
@@bwkid1 the L96 was better than the .338 imo anyways
Great content.
This was good I've seen the other marine sniper school doc on RUclips which is good but this more modern and detailed.
Briohny, (hope i spelled it correctly)always brings quality stories!
Perhaps look at the British Army for accuracy skills seeing as they held records for a few long range kills over the years
Yea and they are extremely good at shooting air rifles
Hooray...The Marines
The kestrel meters even take in to account the Coriolis effect of the earth , cracking bit of kit .
So gps as well ?
It's just a Kestrel 5700, likely the Elite though it could be the X model. Commercially available, guys use them for everything from 22lr all the way up to ELR calibers. The custom drag models supplied by Applied Ballistics are fantastic too, and provided you have the correct muzzle velocity and your rifle is set up properly, you can get some impressive first round impacts.
@@michaelturner6361 so raw talent is minimised? My dad as teenage cadet! Won 🥇 a Lewis gun competition that started at 800yrds ! And went every hundred down ! Popup manned Targets required three round burst max !!!! Won by a country mile apparently against the ! Army, navy & airforce
@@robertwoodroffe123 not entirely, you still need to be able to shoot well, just takes a lot of the mental gymnastics away from it. You see dentists out-shooting SWAT guys at PRS competitions.
@@michaelturner6361 u suck
You would be a jelly fish 🎣 to live through that !? Or more likely dead like so many were
So what’s ur pedigree? When it comes to metal flying?
Respect !
1. Spin 360 degrees.
2. Shoot without using scope.
3. Shout "Yo Mamma!"
So does that mean “flat earthers” don’t make good snipers 😏
@@Cobrashadows sniping getting binned soon anyways.
4:29 Mad respect to the lefty sniper rockin the Casio F91W Series watch, that thing was my pride and joy back in my high school days just before graduation. I used my own $ from work delivering news papers by going house to house on my BMX bicycle at 5 AM in the mornings before heading to school like way back when in 1989. Instead of acquiring some extravagant and pricy timepiece on his wrist that would just scream 'over kill' he chose the minimalist (like a 14 dollar watch) mind set and focus his prioritizes on the primary tools at hand. Point being, you can def. learn a lil bit about a guy by the watch he wears.
So if he was wearing a Garmin Tactix with Applied Ballistics,... what then?
You train on both shoulders
excellent video.
Barry Buddon ranges. Know them well. Remember dont shoot the golfers 😂😂
Hakke looked good in this
im lucky enough to own two of these rifles one in .338 and one in .308 great guns
They are rifles
@@sdlillystonea gun is any cylinder, sealed at one end, that fires a projectile
@@Ab.Stat. rifles have rifling
@@sdlillystoneso do handguns
Ai rifles are the best in the world, brilliant long-distance rifles
Accuracy International do, do highly tuned rifles
Not bad for starting off as two blokes in a shed
In the Animation at 3:14 the complete cartridge is flying towards the target 😂😂
Very nice. Providing of course, they dont leave their weapon on the training ground again.
😂🤣
When did they do that?
@@mattgosling2657 about 6 weeks ago IIRC.
@@johnnunn8688 ROFL.
@@peterstubbs5934 - when/where?
This is the first animation that ive seen where they show the bullet dropping from the very second it leaves the barrel. Theres more people than you would ever believe that think the bullet rises above the center line of the barrel and then gradually drops as it travels, which is crazy but people really think thats what happens
If the optic is level with the ground, the barrel need to point a tad upwards (in order to hit where you are aiming) and the bullet will have this upward path.
If the barrel is level with the ground, the optic need to point a tad downward, and the bullet will start dropping the moment it leaves the barrel :)
@@andysykes4328
How can the bullet ever travel higher than the center line of the barrel??? Forget about a scope on the rifle, when a bullet travels down a barrel, when it leaves the muzzle gravity is pulling that bullet down, from the very millisecond it leaves the end of the barrel. So if this was the barrel ---------- it doesn't matter what direction or elevation it is pointed, when that bullet follows that line, it never ever rises above that line at any point. It falls from the very second it leaves the barrel. I know your not that stupid to think the bullet can rise above the barrel center line it has travelled along at any time
fun fact. british army has an ice cream van. i guess they send it ahead of the news teams so people look happy on camera.
Very nice rifle and scopes, someday I'll splurge on an AI rifle.
Wow 🔥
When he's holding the kestrel for wind where they're shooting from, at long distances can't crosswinds be going different directions and strengths so how would you be able to make any scope adjustments for that?? This is a good documentary, the older one is good too.
That's where the art comes in. The tech does the heavy lifting, but when it comes to judging what the wind is going downrange, you still need skill and lots of experience.
You can tell by mirage, wind stick which is a stick with string on tell you the direction, also natural vegetation around your area and targets area
@BIGDipsy yeah that makes sense, I'm sure in most places there will probably be some vegetation or other light movable items closer to target that would give at least some ideas.
It's a tool you need to learn to use...ans yes wind isn't just important at your location
I scored 44 out of 50 when the Chepstow Conservative Club vs the Sergeants’ Mess at Beachley Camp invited us to a rematch after we beat them in a snooker match. The sergeants laid on a night to remember. Darts, carpet bowls, snooker, crib and shooting match with the SLR. My practice was 44/50 which the sergeant said was sniper class 35 being the pass mark. Afterwards we had a British Army curry; no one does a better curry than the British Army. A night to remember and cherish.
Don’t agree with the curry thing. The RAF curry is superior.
'No one does a better curry than the British army'
Ok...
How many moving targets ? Or pop up from random positions did that have ??
Is this Charles
or Harry?
Charles is welcome,
but Harry, it's past
your bed time.
Thanks for the sniper course. I feel like sniper...
You worked hard... strong pass that
@@ifv2089 depinately... 😉
@@dustyarain be fair snipers are going get pahazed out soon anyways, soon as they make a drone course at Brecon it's gone.
@@dustyarain snipers be gone soon anyways, be scrapped for drone operators course.
@@ifv2089 drones have made warfare ruthless.... just taken the humanity out of warfare... wait for the time when these drones get AI...
Where are the nanomachines?
@@ktwei wind reading ballistic calculator
We shoot foxes and crows at those ranges, foxes for pest control and crows for fun
Casio F91W? Seen. Corps still paying the same old wages then, haha.
Does anyone know if there's a part one?
Yeah does not look like field craft
Do officers of Royal Marines also become snipers??
No ! And certainly not what is now called a scout sniper! That mean’s going forward of the rest of the troops 😅 ! Another trying to be invisible 🫥
@@robertwoodroffe123 ok
Thank you
I’ve used a AI scope and a Swarovski scope and I can say that for 4 grand, the AI is the best
S&B PMii. Rifle is AI. Maybe AI resell the scopes but they’re made by S&B
@@leohaywood-farmer1662 ai don't make scopes you thinking of S&B
Wait a sec.... COD taught me you were supposed to throw out 360 No scopes!!
Simo said what?
God bless America
Scout Sniper? Seriously? Thats an American term, a term which is no longer used in the USMC.
It’s just a word don’t get so stressed
Dry your eyes yank. The RMC make the USMC look like a group of girls.
It was known as the Snipers course but more recently changed to Scout Sniper and the course enlarged from lessons learned in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Scouts have been part of the British army for centuries
Americans fight like lunatics over semantics trust
Makes me wonder why the USMC got rid of their sniper program. What a blunder.
Really?? Didn’t know that, insane decision 😢
@@joebloggs8422 They probably find it difficult to believe snipers will ever be more useful than drones again.
Uk looks like it doing the same soon becuase of drones
9.4 Kgs?
Still using mil dot reticles. That's a big oof.
Ah yes because it's only been proven in combat tens of thousands of times 🤷🏻♂️
@JammyDodger45 You might be right. The British snipers are better off using iron sights, far more combat proven than modern optical reticles. What a fukn genius you are.
@@Spruce-Bug - reporting my reply is a serious ❄️ move.
What a 🐈 you are.
@@Spruce-Bug - the British military have used scopes for over a hundred years.
By your logic we should return to the longbow.
@JammyDodger45 The irony is hilarious, considering it's your logic I'm mocking to begin with. Remarkable how you didn't notice and ended up criticizing it yourself. Seems safe for me to assume that you've never looked through a modern rifle scope with a tremor/mil scale or a mil dot reticle yet have an opinion on it.
The difference is night and day, and here, British snipers are using the lesser of the two options.
telling enemy all...... cool vid tho
hoofin
Not using melons anymore then?
it looks like a simplified version of the us marines core scout sniper course which was around approx 10 plus years ago where even then there was a further advance sniper course and has since been replaced with a better course for usa snipers
Yes you saw all this
lol “troubleshoot”
I did my police rifle marksman qualifier at Deer Hill and it were reet windy. At 500, according to the flags the wind was going in 4 different directions between the target and me. I passed using a .308 with no Schmidt und Bender scope and no "shooting computer" thingy.
Completely different.
Nice one, you didn't do even a quarter of the rest of the stuff these guys do though. I'm ex military and police, I'm sick of armed policing being compared to the likes of RM or uksf, nowhere near the same.
That's right. Make it about you.
You didn't learn any humility, did you!😂
@@BobFiltration pahahaha, gold star comment
Never again did they let a whole squad be controlled and act as one ☝️ from one head sniper
No # 4 T. X 8
Snipers are / were the most hated people 😮 on their own side 😢
I whiteness’ed this personally ! In 1982’ in a local historic Pub ! Helping my father move to his other farm ! Winter and my gum boots were muddy ,from preparing a dilapidated shed for move , so a local guy ( bohemian!? ) famous bohemian pub ! Puhoi ! Comes up to my dad and calls him a murder! Because he had become sniper! ( after Monti Cassino ! ) guy proceeded to say that down in the town of Monte Cassino , they were gathered around heating some food 🍲 around a fire 🔥 and one of them taken out / hit by German sniper! And that snipers were the worst!
At same point in time my father and his company up the hill with nothing in the way of food! some of were being killed by friendly fire ! As parts of smoke projectiles the Indian mountain troops requested feel on them ( my father’s company) 25lb smoke shell outer casings ( could hear 👂 them for a second before as going end over end and slowish! But the iron base plug less noise and faster killed and wounded many of his company!
Friendly fire ! No joke
That dad and others were able to get back through German lines and not POW s was a blessing
After he came out of hospital was when he was made head sniper of unique nz sniper squad! And was pay back time !
My dad saw an ultra Decrypt derived intel that said the German HQ was abandoning / retreat at 2 pm the next day !
As the person whom, was the head sniper, he and his squad eliminated the HQ at 2 pm !!!
Intel bonanza !?
That could never have happened. Dissemination of Ultra was at such a high level, that there were only 40 Special Liaison Officers across the Army and Air Force, who could disclose information to Army/RAF Commanders (as in the Army Commander himself) or to a limited number of suitably indoctrinated Staff Officers, who were vetted to see Ultra Secret intelligence
Random people didn't see Ultra Decrypts. D
@@derekowens1817 it appears you ?? Are getting my replies removed? Or is it the algorithms?? Lucky 🍀 I have screenshots! 😂
@@robertwoodroffe123 I'm removing nothing.
What you originally stated could never have happened.
Ultra intelligence was disseminated at Army Group/Army level, not at Regimental level or below.
If a sniper team was given a tasking, they would not have seen, nor have been advised of Ultra as a source. D
@@derekowens1817 in the British army !! We talking NZ division! and my father never knew what ultra was ! He saw intel and acted on it ! The truth
My father was attached to MI After he apparently?? Opted out ! Was sent to Palestine etc have the pictures !
He bought my mother a French bathing suit in Tel Aviv .
@@robertwoodroffe123 so he wouldn't have seen an Ultra decrypt, as you claimed, and intelligence would have briefed snipers and they would have been tasked accordingly, so he wouldn't have been acting on intelligence that he chanced upon.
Family lore is a bit of a bummer, when people make nonsense statements based on it......
Lets face it, they need as much training as possible. With current UK gun laws no recruits join with any experience...
And the vast majority that join in countries where firearms ownership is legal and encouraged within society don't either. IL also add that last year a few royal marines got loaded onto the marsoc raider OTC, the RM lads came top on the barrier entry shooting test...womp womp wommppp
USMC are a joke. A bit like the USA as a whole. One word for it “Trump”
@MBCGRS you don't need to know how to shoot well that's what you learn on sniper course.
You clearly have no clue about British gun laws.
the obligatory *"You Clearly have no clue"* comment. 😂
So much womansplaining
Have to keep up skills to counter modern threats. UK cannot tolorate Britons waving British flags or posting unapproved opinions online.
Nonsense Dave!
Warmer air makes the bullet slower cooler air makes it faster she got it the wring way round
Cold air is thicker, slowing the bullet down. Did you miss physics?
@@johnnunn8688-- for a trick question, how does the bullet drag change with higher humidity?
The humid air has more water in it, making it thicker, thus slowing the bullet. But warmer air holds more water, cancelling the effect - happy to be corrected !
@@toddb930
Oh lord you got that wrong 😂
കർത്താവായ യേശുക്രിസ്തു സകല പ്രശ്നത്തിനും പരിഹാരം.
So is a .338 Lapua
@@stephensmith4480 🤣🤣
@@wingding028 😜👍
👍👍
Malayali bot 😂😂😂
Still got my “Markmanship Certificate” tucked away…🫡👌🏼😉