I love it when you say “what WE call”… t track , what we call an ER 20 size…. I can’t wait to be part of the We club. Its coming. All kidding aside… your videos are freakin amazingl! You are the man! You should mention how long it will actually take to get one of these…
mikeprestone8367, I’m so glad you’re enjoying the videos and the “We club” vibe! It’s great to have you on this journey. As for delivery times, they can vary quite a bit based on the supplier and demand, but typically you might expect a few weeks to a couple of months for CNC machines. Thanks for your positive words-it means a lot!
Thank you for the time and care in making these videos - I ordered my Altmill some weeks ago and am waiting for its arrival, slated for Early Jan. Your videos on it, and the obvious respect you have for the machine in them, has given me confidence that it was a good choice for a first machine. I know where I'm going for bits to get me started and keep me running thereafter.
Outstanding video sir! You're coverage and information covers pretty much all the bases one needs to know to make an intelligent decision! I was leaning towards another brand CNC, but this Altmill is really impressive and at the price point I am looking at. Thank you!
Thank you! And I'm glad the video gave you the information you needed. When you order your machine, make sure you let me know because I'm going to do the happiness for you! link.idcwoodcraft.com/k0ecg7
Thank You Garrett for the detailed demonstration of the Altmill. After I watched your recently released live you did several days ago, I placed my order for the Altmill. However, since I have a 3 hp spindle on my current CNC, I decided to purchase the 2.2 kw 220v ER20 8omm air cooled spindle from PWNCNC. Your recent interwiew with Daniel sealed that decision for me. Thank you for all you do.
This video was great. This machine looks like the machine to upgrade to. I presently have a Longmill 30 x 30. I recently started learning from Kyle, There is so much more you can do with these machines. What really is needed is more time to learn. That being said, I think I will continue learning first before upgrading the mill. By then maybe the leadtimes to get the mill will be better. again tons of valuable info in the video, and I trust what you say, because you are hands on. Thank you for your valuable time making these videos
jt2508, I'm glad you found the video helpful! It's great to hear that you're diving into learning more about CNC machining with Kyle. Keep practicing with your Longmill, and upgrading will feel more rewarding when the time comes. Thank you for your kind words!
Good explanation about how CNC machines work, the Altmill is one of the best CNC machines in terms of quality/price! Thank you, best regards from Portugal!
Got my Altmill all put together just waiting for the spindle box and then still need to do the spoil board and shelving. So far good other than the fitment for the sholder bolts on the z gantry. Shipping has been a bear dealing with UPS and customs. Looking forward to getting this machine going. Cant wait, thanks for the great video and content brother!
JNewellworks, I'm glad to hear you're making progress on your Altmill! It sounds like you're well on your way to getting everything set up, despite the challenges. Shipping can definitely be a hassle sometimes, but it sounds like it's all coming together. Enjoy your CNC journey, and thanks for watching!
Thank you for making this video. I wish I would of seen it first before buying the 2 small desk top routers I have. I think it would help save me some headaches that I have been having. It's nice to know that you can do small to large projects on it.
Tanks for the Review and all the extra information in this video. Looks like a really sturdy machine @ a reasonable price point. Living in The Netherlands (Europe) means that there is a shipping cost of almost $800,- added and maybe also some import taxes…. A local dealer would be a good idea..
HenkHeijnen, I'm glad you found the information helpful! It's always a good idea to consider local dealers, especially with shipping and import costs in mind.
@@IDCWoodcraft Local is usually better also if you want to support local company’s. But I’m struggling to find a comparable CNC @ the same price point locally…
FrostedImages, That's a great observation! Back driving refers to the movement of a machine component when it's not under power, which can sometimes occur in systems with backlash. It’s useful to know the distinctions for better machine setup and precision. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
So in looking at the IDC Downloaded Feed Rate for 90 deg bits vs. the speed you appear to be running, I do not think they are the same. What feed rate and depth were you running in this video and how did you determine you were going to run this speed, and why wouldn't that be the speed listed in your database?
It is the same bit. We created the database to be conservative for less robust machines. Has people get used to the feeds and speeds they can dial it up to where it runs well on their machine
marcshu-lutman2500, It's great to see you diving into the specifics of collets! Just to clarify, ER-20 collets are indeed commonly used for larger bits, up to 1/2”, while ER-16 typically accommodates smaller bits, like 3/8”. Each collet size is designed for a specific range of bit shank sizes, so choosing the right one is important for maintaining precision. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
That's a great question! The masso controller there's a good controller. It's a bit more complex to work with. Comparison lies, the altmill has a faster acceleration and deceleration
the only issue I see with the gantry is that it is supported only by the linear bearings on each side. I guess you could say the ball screw helps but it doesn't rely on it and shouldn't. I know larger machines typically have rollers or something so the linear bearings don't wear out. On the gantry itself for the spindle, there isn't really enough weight that it matters as much. Just and observation. theses are newer machines. Are there any word of them wearing out? They should have put 2 of the linear bearings on each side. 1 on top, 1 on bottom
nationsnumber1chump, You bring up a valid point about the support structure of the gantry. Larger machines often do use additional rollers or bearings to distribute weight and reduce wear, which can be beneficial in the long run. While newer designs incorporate improved materials and engineering, it's always wise to keep an eye on wear and maintenance. Regular checks can help catch any potential issues before they become major problems. Thanks for sharing your observations!
urban2153, It’s true that the Phantom is quite an investment! But if you're serious about your CNC woodworking, it can really pay off with its capabilities and precision.
bentebrunsvelt319, I totally understand where you're coming from! Many woodworkers prefer inches for its ease of use in the shop, especially when it comes to larger projects. However, millimeters can provide more precision for detailed work. It really boils down to personal preference and project requirements!
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I love it when you say “what WE call”… t track , what we call an ER 20 size…. I can’t wait to be part of the We club. Its coming. All kidding aside… your videos are freakin amazingl! You are the man! You should mention how long it will actually take to get one of these…
mikeprestone8367, I’m so glad you’re enjoying the videos and the “We club” vibe! It’s great to have you on this journey. As for delivery times, they can vary quite a bit based on the supplier and demand, but typically you might expect a few weeks to a couple of months for CNC machines. Thanks for your positive words-it means a lot!
Thank you for the time and care in making these videos - I ordered my Altmill some weeks ago and am waiting for its arrival, slated for Early Jan. Your videos on it, and the obvious respect you have for the machine in them, has given me confidence that it was a good choice for a first machine.
I know where I'm going for bits to get me started and keep me running thereafter.
GregH-p5r, You're very welcome! I'm glad to hear the videos have helped you feel confident about your choice. Enjoy your new Altmill when it arrives!
Outstanding video sir! You're coverage and information covers pretty much all the bases one needs to know to make an intelligent decision! I was leaning towards another brand CNC, but this Altmill is really impressive and at the price point I am looking at. Thank you!
Thank you! And I'm glad the video gave you the information you needed.
When you order your machine, make sure you let me know because I'm going to do the happiness for you!
link.idcwoodcraft.com/k0ecg7
Thank You Garrett for the detailed demonstration of the Altmill. After I watched your recently released live you did several days ago, I placed my order for the Altmill. However, since I have a 3 hp spindle on my current CNC, I decided to purchase the 2.2 kw 220v ER20 8omm air cooled spindle from PWNCNC. Your recent interwiew with Daniel sealed that decision for me.
Thank you for all you do.
JosephWerle-je4ww, You're very welcome! I'm glad to hear that my videos have been helpful to you. Enjoy your new setup!
This video was great. This machine looks like the machine to upgrade to. I presently have a Longmill 30 x 30. I recently started learning from Kyle, There is so much more you can do with these machines. What really is needed is more time to learn. That being said, I think I will continue learning first before upgrading the mill. By then maybe the leadtimes to get the mill will be better. again tons of valuable info in the video, and I trust what you say, because you are hands on. Thank you for your valuable time making these videos
jt2508, I'm glad you found the video helpful! It's great to hear that you're diving into learning more about CNC machining with Kyle. Keep practicing with your Longmill, and upgrading will feel more rewarding when the time comes. Thank you for your kind words!
Good explanation about how CNC machines work, the Altmill is one of the best CNC machines in terms of quality/price! Thank you, best regards from Portugal!
pedromendonca6688, I'm glad you found the explanation helpful! Best regards to you too!
Got my Altmill all put together just waiting for the spindle box and then still need to do the spoil board and shelving. So far good other than the fitment for the sholder bolts on the z gantry. Shipping has been a bear dealing with UPS and customs. Looking forward to getting this machine going. Cant wait, thanks for the great video and content brother!
JNewellworks, I'm glad to hear you're making progress on your Altmill! It sounds like you're well on your way to getting everything set up, despite the challenges. Shipping can definitely be a hassle sometimes, but it sounds like it's all coming together. Enjoy your CNC journey, and thanks for watching!
Thank you for making this video. I wish I would of seen it first before buying the 2 small desk top routers I have. I think it would help save me some headaches that I have been having. It's nice to know that you can do small to large projects on it.
roberthenrich8105, You're very welcome! I'm glad you found the video helpful.
Amazing video. Thank you.
garybaumann5637, You're very welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Great video ! You are 100% correct on the router and use of. Great value !
ozguzzi, Thanks so much for the kind words! I'm glad you found the video helpful.
Great video and lots of info thanks
WilliamKot-st9qm, I'm glad you found the video informative! Happy woodworking!
Garrett, good video. Small correction suggestion, I believe the side plates are powder coated aluminum not steel.
miltonfriedman9673, Thanks for the feedback! It's great to get different perspectives.
Thank you for a very informative video.
richardspears3033, You're very welcome! I'm glad you found it helpful.
Was waiting for this video, this will be my next machine when I make another 10 grand with my cocktail smokers.
You'll be able to buy a couple of them for 10K!! 👍😄
Windycitysmokers, That's awesome to hear! It sounds like you have a great plan for your cocktail smokers. Enjoy diving into your next project!
Tanks for the Review and all the extra information in this video. Looks like a really sturdy machine @ a reasonable price point. Living in The Netherlands (Europe) means that there is a shipping cost of almost $800,- added and maybe also some import taxes…. A local dealer would be a good idea..
HenkHeijnen, I'm glad you found the information helpful! It's always a good idea to consider local dealers, especially with shipping and import costs in mind.
@@IDCWoodcraft Local is usually better also if you want to support local company’s. But I’m struggling to find a comparable CNC @ the same price point locally…
Awesome video thanks for sharing
dennisbracci9212, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching!
are the side plates really "solid steel"? or solid anodized Aluminum??
Hi Dave. You are correct. It is anodized aluminum. I completely missed that until later. It's still quite beefy though
I never heard the term back driving oppose to backlash, which is excessive play between the rack and pinion.
FrostedImages, That's a great observation! Back driving refers to the movement of a machine component when it's not under power, which can sometimes occur in systems with backlash. It’s useful to know the distinctions for better machine setup and precision. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
So in looking at the IDC Downloaded Feed Rate for 90 deg bits vs. the speed you appear to be running, I do not think they are the same. What feed rate and depth were you running in this video and how did you determine you were going to run this speed, and why wouldn't that be the speed listed in your database?
It is the same bit. We created the database to be conservative for less robust machines. Has people get used to the feeds and speeds they can dial it up to where it runs well on their machine
so what was the feed rate and depth you were running in that video on the v-bit?
47:07 my belief was ER-20 collets are for 1/2” and ER-16 is for 3/8” bits but I don’t sell bits for a living😂
marcshu-lutman2500, It's great to see you diving into the specifics of collets! Just to clarify, ER-20 collets are indeed commonly used for larger bits, up to 1/2”, while ER-16 typically accommodates smaller bits, like 3/8”. Each collet size is designed for a specific range of bit shank sizes, so choosing the right one is important for maintaining precision. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
How does it compare to the onefinity elite with Masso controller? That is the one I have been eyeing for a bit.
That's a great question! The masso controller there's a good controller. It's a bit more complex to work with. Comparison lies, the altmill has a faster acceleration and deceleration
How do you think accuracy is on both machines? I come from a machining background and expect my 5x12 to do too much, but it has rack and pinions.
the only issue I see with the gantry is that it is supported only by the linear bearings on each side. I guess you could say the ball screw helps but it doesn't rely on it and shouldn't. I know larger machines typically have rollers or something so the linear bearings don't wear out. On the gantry itself for the spindle, there isn't really enough weight that it matters as much. Just and observation. theses are newer machines. Are there any word of them wearing out? They should have put 2 of the linear bearings on each side. 1 on top, 1 on bottom
nationsnumber1chump, You bring up a valid point about the support structure of the gantry. Larger machines often do use additional rollers or bearings to distribute weight and reduce wear, which can be beneficial in the long run. While newer designs incorporate improved materials and engineering, it's always wise to keep an eye on wear and maintenance. Regular checks can help catch any potential issues before they become major problems. Thanks for sharing your observations!
Sorry for your loss :(
Overit5000, Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate it.
Did I see a 3/8” shank BEAST bit? When will they be offered?
Rob-Hannon, not yet brother but it is right around the corner!
Can the AltMill be set up to home at the back right corner?
Yes it can!
It is not an ER20 but an ER16 - • ER16, 80mm, 1.5KW 110V Air-Cooled Spindle
Crap. I missed that little mistake when I was editing. Thanks for mentioning that here!
@@IDCWoodcraft ER16 can still run a 3/8” bit. Have you ran a 3/8” bit on the AltMill yet?
The extrusions are not 3/4" thick. The black metal plates on the sides of the x gantry are not steel. They are aluminum
SalFortuna, Thanks for the clarification! Those details are important for anyone looking into the machine's specs.
What is the cost of that machine?
$3500
nelsoncollar1814, It starts at $2950 brother!
well, you buy the phantom if you can afford it
urban2153, It’s true that the Phantom is quite an investment! But if you're serious about your CNC woodworking, it can really pay off with its capabilities and precision.
I've seen someone do this about 4 years ago.... now drive your tractor over it.
Lol... Great idea!
Yeah I also saw it somewhere else about 5 years ago...
220 volt
bentebrunsvelt319, good call brother!
Why always in Inch 🤑 mm better
bentebrunsvelt319, I totally understand where you're coming from! Many woodworkers prefer inches for its ease of use in the shop, especially when it comes to larger projects. However, millimeters can provide more precision for detailed work. It really boils down to personal preference and project requirements!