P17BF VW DSG Transmission Fault Cause
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In this video we are showing a failed mechatronics unit pulled apart out of a dq200 7 speed dsg gearbox. The P17BF fault code relates to hydraulic pump play protection. This is due to pressure loss as the oil accumulator has blown out of the gearbox housing.
I have a DQ200 DSG SKODA 2016. Only code came up is P17BF00. Mechanic is sorting out the mectronic but now saying the TCM is gone to. I have no symptoms and it drives and changes gears perfectly. Only problem it lights up and says gearbox error once a day if that.
What do you think? As now it’s costing me £1400 as originally was £800.
I think he talks about the Kinergo repair kit, is a pricey in my opinion, but maybe worth it if is crack proof. At 70bar must be very strong.
Have an A3, and tried to get it fixed at dealer because of the recall, guess what, my VIN number is not one of the one listed on the Audi recall list. They are a pack of a..holes, they have tens of thousands of these they need to replace and all they are doing is putting the same casting back in, changing the software to drop the pressure from 70 to 50 bar.
Anyway, I replaced using the Kinergo unit. I did it with the mech still in the car...super simple. Took me around 4 hrs with basic tools. I recon I can now do it in 2. Thanks to clever ppl like Kinergo, we need more people like that to help us little guys, when big corporate dicks don't want to come to the party. Have a nice day :)
Kinergo is a good one i was going to suggest. Glad it worked out.
I had the recall done on my car a year and a half ago, and today I had this code. When I scanned it with VCDS I found out that the pressure is 40bar. I believe the casing in my case is cracked and it will get worse. The recall did not remediate the issue. I plan on taking my car to VW and see what they are going to say about this.
Are you able to tell how to go about reducing the pressure in the mechatronics unit in order to open up thew transmission? I note you did at home - I would like to try as well. Any special advice? Cheers, from New Zealand
Hey there, the mech was losing pressure at the time, so when I opened things up, there was no pressure in the accumulator. I can't believe its been 4 years. Car is still going strong, missus is happy and that is the main thing (of course)! I can't advise re pressure, but changing it was easy...IMHO. Best of luck.
@@vassze2246 no need to lift the engine?
Hello !
I recently had my gear selector on the dashboard flashing with a spanner sign. So, after having the car diagnosed, it came up with this P17BF fault code !
Do you reckon this has to do with the accumulator housing being cracked , or could it be something else ?
Appreciate if you could please let me know. Thanks
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Thanks, i have seen your videos. I'm happy to do a video installing your part and testing it.
I have brought they new updated kit from Kinergo which doesn't require holes to be drilled. Fitted 1month had no complaints
I have fitted the same kit with no issues also.
@@FourRingsAuto Hi I have a question if you can help I will be very grateful are you have to drain oil from mechanical part of greabox first and then remove mechatronik or is ok to just remove mechatronik
@@stanwes4740 you should drain the oil from the gearbox first. The oil will come out when you remove the mechatronics, but you need to drain the gearbox to get all of it out. There is no level plug or dipstick for the gearbox, so you need to get all of it out so that you can refill with the correct quantity.
@@FourRingsAuto thank you very much for help I'm very grateful for your help
Hey wonder if you could help me, what torque specs should i tighten the cover for the mechatronic's sump?
Thanks
My Audi A3 2009 1.4t got this P17BF with exceeding and not enough pressure, and P0841 transmisor 1...and had a small leak in the upper top where oil is filing...no fails at all but I guess no too late to have big issues...it could be just the seals? Thanks
I have another video on my channel of one of these mechatronic units leaking oil out the top breather. If yours is doing the same it is the Mechatronics that is the cause of your problem. The accumulator inside breaks.
What if you don,t fix the problems P16BF and P0841. And drive wit the broke part?
@@FourRingsAuto thanks for your support...i just open the mechatronic and nothing broken...i realized that in the history report first showed up a problem with the pumb..so I bought in eBay and waiting for arrive...I'll post if it's was the problem...thanks and great your videos.
@@zuiverwienietkandelenkanni1428 I think the system go in a protection mode and finally you don't be able to move the car....mine mechatronic got any broken part helped with Vcds cable I got the history faults and told was a problem in the pump
Javier Molina did the pump fix the problem?
Helo everyone vw Jetta 2012 have got this code p1604 i try to clear the code but is not working to remove any one help me
Check out our product that solves P17BF, P1895 fault codes.
Hey man can this cause a dsg transmission not to go into gear or into nuetral
Can do. Usually flashes D or R when you try to drive.
I recently have this problem after got it diagnostic checked out in my VW Jetta 2013 DSG with only 52000 miles. I did received some quotes which are over £1000.
Sounds about right. Ring vw, there is a new recall out with about 80,000 vin numbers on it. Worth checking if yours is covered.
@@FourRingsAuto Thanks ever so much. I did call VW and they booked me in for 28th Jan to check this out for me.
How do you pressurise the accumulator please
The pump will pressurise the new accumulator
my mk7 1.4 have code p175d00 clutch 1 open unimtensionally so mecha or clutch? need help
thanks for the video champ!! just wondering if this would might affect clutch replacement for 48000kms 2013 a3? i got my pressure accumulator replaced thru recall campaign but car is still doing shudder from transmission. now i got quoted $4k to replace clutch...pls help
Shudder is usually a clutch issue. They are known to shudder on inclines in 2nd gear mainly. When pulling away and the transmission shifts you can often feel it.
@@FourRingsAuto thanks! would you you call this as manufacturer defects related to pressure accumulator? i am in the process of making claim to audi Aus now..
@@leechris8698 I think it’s not a recall issue. It’s just worn out I guess. But mine shudders as well from 2nd gear to 3rd
RUclips in sedat nezir..
Good evening mechatronic removal / refitting how many hours? adaptation / calibration ... suitcase there for how much in total?
Where to get it in South Africa
Do you need a special tool to replace the threads etc as quoted £600 to replace as the mechanic needs a to buy a curtain tool
Two clutches missing
Hello! One question has to do with the accumulator. How csn i safely remove the old one to fit the kinergo fix kit? I saw some accumulator blowing and i need to be careful with every step
I'd advise contacting Kinergo. As this is a safety issue, I can't advise you how to do it unfortunately due to liability. Thanks and good luck.
How can I get the kit for MK5 ,I am in Botswana, Gaborone
Dd u get one
Overhaul kit available ah
Thanks for your video mate, explains a lot. I ran a check on VW site and it tells me to take it to a dealer/service center. i live in Sydney and just bought this car last week so I'm not sure which service center to take it to to get the recall work done "Correctly". Any suggestions as to which service center is better/reliable? i presume recalls can not be done by specialists outside of the dealer/service centers right?
Dealer only for recalls. Sorry I'm in Perth so don't know the go in Sydney. You could try ringing a few independent specialists and seeing who they'd recommend. Try volksmuller.
Hey Nick. I wonder if you did take it to the dealer later on? I’ve got a recall letter from Skoda(mine is also dq200) and going to take it in to the dealership in Geelong, even know I live in Melbourne, they have a lot of other dealerships there in one place, including the Audi so I think they have proper mechanics. Just wondering what did they replace on your VW?
@@HeKuTK0 I had the recall done on my car a year and a half ago, and today I had this code. When I scanned it with VCDS I found out that the pressure is 40bar. I believe the casing in my case is cracked and it will get worse. The recall did not remediate the issue.
@@_Pet_Tech What ended up happening?? I am having this exact issue.
Did they end up replacing it for you?? im having the same issue.
That unit in Australia is currently under recal and is being replaced
I have been telling everyone commenting the same thing. It applies to around 70 or 80 thousand vin numbers. I've had people in the uk comment and get there's replaced once I'd advised of the recall.
Hi I’ve got a hydraulic pump anti play fault on my Skoda superb 2011 took it in for the recall and they didn’t change the high pressure accumulator as they said it looked fine and are telling me I need a whole new mechatronics. Any help would be appreciated could it be the pump or the valve body?
Is there a recall on the pump? As I have same problem. Done the mechatronic twice and still get gearbox error after 2 months.
@@Jason-hz5zc mine is fixed I put a second hand valve body on the mechatronics unit.
It was losing a small amount of pressure but wasn’t the pump or the high pressure accumulator as this was all tested. Was something in the valve body but couldn’t narrow it down to exactly what it was. So just did the whole valve body.
Has been running fine now for about 7000 kms
@@jongriffiths3033 is the valve body part of the mech unit? They refurbed it then 2 months later it come back. Then he said it’s the gear forks so replaced that along with a new clutch. Now 1 month no problems at all but suddenly the light come back on again. If I turn it off and then start the light gearbox error goes away. Then comes back after 10 mins or so. Really stressed out!
@@Jason-hz5zc you will need to get it scanned again to see what fault code it is.
Yeah mine was doing the same in regards to the fault on the dash and would go away if i turned the car off for a while but would appear after 20-30 mins of driving.
Hey Hey, What was the mileage on the car when this happened?
Can't remember thw kms on it tbh. Something like $2500 to $3000 Australian.
@@FourRingsAuto Thanks for the feedback. May the Force be with mine. Still can't believe they use a casting for something holding over 40 Bar. I have a 5-year old A3 with 86000 km may it last another 2-5 years.
@@cockylokie7865 Got same code on my A3 8v 1.8 80km, and slowly leaked oil over time until gears started acting.
Replaced the hydraulic part with a refurbished from China for 300usd , and kept the kept the same electronic board.
@@cockylokie7865 if you see oil traces arround mecatronic, means you need to prepare and at least do some preventive maintenance by changing gearbox oil and mechatronic fluid .
1.8L gear oil for gear box, and 1.1L power steering fluid for mechatronic.
hola buen dia se desmantelo la DSG y la liga se encuentra buena y el cuerpo de barbullas también sin falla q las puede ser ?
Sorry I only speak English. If you translate your question I can try to answer it for you.