WARNING: Before you get mad and don't watch the entire video...NOTE: This video isn't meant to be political, I'm not even American. The video is meant to explore the popular idea within current media that Tesla is struggling for a variety of reasons, including Elon Musk's strings of controversies. It's my attempt to be balanced as possible. I do not have an agenda beyond hoping you will enjoy the video lol.
He doesn't deserve balanced view on him, he's totally off balance himself. If you start paying attention to contradictions in his words and actions, he's a shear con artist.
I watched the entire video, and it is political and old debunked crap from oil companies. I want my 15 minutes back., I wish RUclips had a bigger thing I could do than downvote and block the channel.
@@davidlloyd1526 David, with all due respect, I don't believe you have understood the point of the video at all. What specifically is "debunked crap from oil companies?" The general consensus amongst experts is that EVs, despite some short-term issues surrounding mineral mining, are still a much better alternative to ICE vehicles. As for this video being political, I'm not sure how you can discuss Elon's controversies without discussing his recent emergence into the political world that has clearly affected the perception of him and Tesla as a whole. Whether you support his politics or not, is not for me to judge. The video intentionally does not interject my opinions on the matter. I apologize you felt your 15 minutes were wasted but your conclusions about the video are wildly inaccurate.
@@RaisedMedia At 13:40 you blame him for not putting 100% into Tesla, but "shooting rockets into space". Like space and rockets are bad and just for fun... Weird.
I've worked for a lot of scary bosses (and coworkers!) in my career, but I never thought the company should go under as a result, I needed my job! Employees do the hard work of making Teslas, why attack them? Elon being a socially underdeveloped consumer just humanizes him to me. Slandering the whole company just makes you exactly like Elon. He's a simplistic, lazy consumer of information, content to appeal to a similarly aligned fan base for self-aggrandizement. Just like everybody else, pretty much. All consumers are Elons, they just have different brand/tribal affiliations. Their values are situational and temporary, the basic consumer template. So Basic. So Simple. So Consumer.
Since his turn in politics, the dichotomy of my conservative friends/coworkers is so weird. They think Musk is great now, while trashing EVs the next sentence.
Not weird at all. Conservatives don't worship the man. SpaceX has done some amazing things, while Tesla played the system for profit. No one is perfect. Most of all, level headed people are thankful he brought truth back to Twitter X. The left can cry and stamp their feet all they want. Musk won't be stopped.
They're always slower to adopt new things. They'll come around. Musk will be the person to finally manage to sell EVs to conservatives - approximately half the market. They'll choose Tesla because of his politics and to support American manufacturing into the future. It's brilliant really, he'll accelerate sustainable energy even more, and he'll corner at least half the US auto market over the next decade. The whole time, accumulating even more driving data.
Cause they see the difference between a man and a company. Like let's say I don't like gays, does it mean my company is homophobic? Lol, of course not. Why would I want to turn my money machine into political shisthow with protests outside the gates, also that would be illegal so fuck my stocks price. People be dumb jumping to conclusions, unless a politician starts saying stuff like this I don't see any problem with having a personal opinion. And to be fair, whole system is dumb, market runners adjust the price based on these events after all
Most conservatives have no problem with EV's. We just need to be smart about it. Forcing the industry to change via policy is not working and costly. Elon made EV's cool before democrats starting hating on him for his opinions. The other real issue is the US NOT controlling or having the industries needed for alternatives to work. We don't even have the infrastructure but already politicans are mandating change on the people. Above all we should have choices, I don't want a government telling me I have to own a EV or electic mower because of whatever they believe.
@rickjames18 right, I have an ev, I also have a big truck and a phev. My house makes it's own power and charges my cars for around town, while I use gas on the weekends and when I need the truck... None of my lefty friends can say the same, even the ones with ev still just plug into the grid burning fossil fuel and garbage.
No, the shareholder agreed compensation package stipulated that Elon would receive no salary. $0. His reward was stock options - worth about $2 billion at the time. But only if the performance targets for Tesla were hit. The targets were considered extremely ambitious at the time, the media mocked Elon saying he would never hit such goals. But he did. More than hit them, he massively exceeded all targets. He made thousands of Tesla employees multi millionaires through the stock increase. The value of his personal compensation had gone from $2 billion to $53 billion because of the value he created for the company and its' employees. That is the real truth. But people just believe what they want to believe, very few people give a shit about the truth anymore.
"I re-invented electric cars and I´m sending people to mars in a rocket ship - did you think I was also gonna be a chill normal dude?" - wait a minute, was tesla not founded by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning who should get this credit? I bet they are still normal dudes and don´t use their re-invention to act crazy.
Yeah, and it also isn’t like he built the car himself. People much smarter than him were the ones who made the unthinkable possible. Sometimes I think Tesla survived despite Musk and not because of him.
Elon made it happen.He's the one that Pumped most of the funding in and took on incredible risk which he said himself years ago he expected to fail. He notes that he's not the only inventor, but the other inventors didn't show the balls that he did. He may have failings, but he's an incredible mentality which nobody else has been able to emulate.He is far beyond Steve jobs FFS. Ultimately, he started several businesses that are incredibly maverick and people are just jealous
@@Rowlph8888 enabling something is different from directly creating it. His success depends mostly on luck and trust, luck that the final product is feasible (there are way too many unknowns before the start of any project) and trust that the people he chose can actually deliver. But ultimately, it's the people he chose that are the ones directly responsible for creating something tangible. Musk is as much of an inventor of electric cars as JP Morgan is an inventor of AC electric circuits.
@@Rowlph8888 Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning founded Tesla Motors in 2003. Musk was an early investor and board member before becoming CEO in 2007. He later paid out a settlement after he started calling himself a Tesla founder and got sued by the original founders. He basically paid a ton of money to the actual founders to be able to call himself a founder of Tesla. I guess by that logic we could still have another new founder of Tesla if someone with enough money comes along to buy that title.
Then forced out the original founders and proceded to royally f**k up the company. Pretty much everything Musk touches ends up being a total steaming rancid pile of shite. At least Pay Pal was quick to realize what at total POS twat Elon was and curbed this arse before he ruined them forever.
The company was well on the way to bankruptcy, he saved it and turned it into one of the valuable and fast growing companies in the US. US manufacturing had been in decline for decades, then this guy came along and created thousands of jobs, made the world realize the US was still capable of greatness. And you petty little chuds come along and shit on him, for what? For not bending the knee to your weird auth left cult. Fuck your cult. It only exists so auth left grifters can make outrage videos for ad revenue. Tesla and SpaceX will continue to prosper for years after the cult has lost all relevancy.
@@PistolPete.r I doubt it........Someone who was actually competent would of been found by the two people who actually created the company if required. As it was, he damn near killed the company right from the start by demanding stupid changes in the original design. I will grant you he is one hell of a hypeman, a huckster and conman, probably could even sell snow to the Inuits in the middle of an arctic winter, but as a manager, designer or programmer, he is total shite. Tesla's market cap is highly over valued, and it will one crash down hard. Tesla's sales and production numbers cannot support such a valuation, basically its stock is a bubble full of hot air looking to pop.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 Spacex Falcon rocket takes off puts satellites in space flies back and lands itself back on the ground. Boeing sent two people to the space station for 2-3 days and Spacex had to rescue them 3-4 months later. Starlink, a subsiduary of Spacex now valued at $180bn
I went to pay cash for a model x. Then, I drove one at their dealership at Las Vegas. What a dangerous p.o.s. I had to take my eyes off the road to control anything. Everything was on the touch screen. The purchase experience was terrible. I walked out on the salesperson. Tesla has a cultish reputation for their poorly built cars.
*MY SISTER WAS GOING TO BUY A MOD 3* she cancelled the order cos she does NOT want the customers at her martial arts schools to think she is aligned with Elon Ponzi She is getting a Kia - NO ONE has an opinion on a Kia
I wanted a used Tesla until i found out you dont ever get to see it before you take delivery. Theyll keep your deposit if you reject the car upon arrival. I wont buy something without seeing it... how others do is insane to me!
It's the whole cult of Musk, just shut up and BELIEVE. And if you get screwed, you're supposed to be happy for the privilege of brushing up against such a wonderful company.
@@bobdebouwer7835 No doubt. When Tesla groupies hear any criticism of the car, they always throw out that it's the #1 selling car blah blah blah. My answer back is that people in high numbers being snowed doesn't make it less of a screw-job, it just means that more people are in for one hell of a disappointment. I had a coworker last week that couldn't get in his car until lunchtime because the phone app and his car weren't playing nice with each other. Screw that, I don't ever want that to even be a possibility.
I dont care about Elons politics or takes. But the fact he keeps his companies alive on goverment gibs and shareholder money by promising it all and delivering barely anything makes me despise him. His nature is parasitic.
Tesla has more than $36bn in cash and very little debt Tesla is very very solvent and has no risk of going bust. Detroit 3 only have dreams about the wealth of Tesla. Model Y no 2 seller in the US in all car sales not just EV and number 1 worldwide, "delivery barely anything" why do so many of these commenters with very little real knowledge add 4 numbers to their log on id, is this a sign of their low IQ level or does it make them feel important, I don´t try to criticise people, just point out the facts in the real world. Spacex worth about $180bn and even more when they do the Starlink IPO. Did you watch the launch this morning. Launched Spaceship 5 early this morning after 2.5 minutes separated from the booster rocket, booster rocket dropped back down to earth, right where the launch tower was and caught the booster rocket on 2 claws on the launch tower, everyone said they thought that was impossible, they will refurb the booster and have it ready to reuse for another launch in 10 days. Musk personally worth about $180bn despite the Twitter mistake.
I own teslas for 8 years now 4 including the new Cybertruck. SpaceX has done what nasal has failed to do. Tesla has done what any type of travel has failed to do. Starling is saving lives. What have you done?
No dispute but he doesn't get a pass for all his government handouts and his constant pumping and lying and overpromising @@mahealanihawaii9830..... oh and he's in bed with Trump Murdoch and Russia. Lovely.
I can't believe how many people fall for the Mars nonsense. It's totally uninhabitable long term, not to mention no one will ever set foot on it. The rovers that supposedly run around up there have no way to clean their solar panels after a daily dust storm and have magic batteries that work for 10+ years in -200F. Nasa does make some good CGI though!
And whenever one of his endeavors fail (and the list of fails is long and distinguished), you get yelled at, "At least he dares to dream, unlike you!!!" He dreams about dumb stuff, Hyperloop is literally the most assinine project I've ever seen. The moron media gushed about it right up until it crashed.
"Tesla's hilariously bad quality control..." Tesla has NO quality control. Every vehicle that comes off the assembly line, is shipped out. While other car makers will pull their cars off the line for things like uneven paint, body panel gaps, electrical issues, or a dozen other problems, Tesla ignores all those issues and sends out every vehicle that would be rejected and crushed by any other auto maker. All those new cars you see getting destroyed in movies and TV shows are those rejects. The automaker can't sell them, but they can get some free publicity for their car models, so they give the rejects to movie companies to get destroyed on camera. A friend of mine ordered a Tesla a few years ago and refused it when it showed up. The body panels were all cock-eyed, not just panel gaps. When he first saw it from a distance, he could see the panels were really out of alignment. Then he got inside and the car shuddered when he closed the door. He could slide the interior panels around. He couldn't believe that this piece of shit was allowed to leave the factory, let alone be handed over to a paying customer. And this was a guy that bought into their spiel and ordered one.
Yes, they have NO quality control. In no other cars do you need to start making a list of issues for repair the moment you drive it off the lot, but it's standard for Tesla.
@@volvo09 And every time one of Musk's cultists lists off all the problems they're having with their new Tesla, they end it with an enthusiastic "Still the best car I've ever had!"
Ohh cool. I really thought u americans are just blind. In germany we its pretty much known nowdays that you should never buy an Model S or X. Since they are being produced in the US only. Only Model 3 and Y from Shanghai or germany are okay when it comes to build quality it gets worse. I even asked my local Tesla SC and asked them if the quality of X and S is still bad. Because of I was considering buy a Model S Plaid. The service manager was honest and told me NO still bad. I have to clue what on earth the 2 tesla plants in the US have been doing the last 10 years of not fixing their quality problems. But i still dont get it how they got road legal approval in the EU. I have never driven a car with such horrible brakes. I was even at Tesla SC to let them to a full service and check the brakes. I dont know any tesla owner that ever said their brakes are fine. Its mindblowing to ship out such powerful cars with such horrible brakes.
False, of course Tesla has quality control, and the quality is just fine. Quality has improved significantly the past few years, but the impression of bad quality is sticky with the public... First Model Y's from Fremont were really bad, as well as the Model 3, Sandy Munro was "not happy" about the many quality issues on the first Model 3 he tear down. But later models were very well made. In those early years many video's on RUclips showing this, but these get less and less the past few years. I have a Shanghai made Model Y, its perfect, inspected it thouroughly when I picked up the car, but could not find anything wrong with it... and after 3 years still as new. The bad ones all come from Fremont, the cars from other factories are just fine, because of improved production methods and much better quality control.
Several points I want to pick apart: * "Electric Car Features" you mention in this video like Tesla's "Full Self Driving", etc., that may alienate some customers and are associated with electric cars are not inherently tied to electric car technology. You can strap on an full autopilot feature onto any modern automatic internal combustion engine car with minimal modifications - the only thing may have stopped "conentional" car manufacturers from doing that is their existing processes and lack of imagination. * "The Infrastructure isn't there yet" - of course it isn't ready for 100% electric car usage, and it doesn't have to be. * "Even Elon Musk says we need more drilling short term" - firstly it's a mistake to take any statement made by Elon Musk at face value, and secondly Musk's recent pivot towards the US Republican Party could well mean he's trying to appease the oil-drilling fraction of that party and that electorate. * "Tesla opened its supercharger network to everyone" - you're talking about it as if it were a sign of good will, but firstly it's a good source of money for Tesla, and secondly it's in exchange for government subsidies * Elon Musk did not found Tesla. Tesla already existed and was already producing cars when Elon Musk invested in it and then took it over. Had he not done so, someone else would almost certainly have. * Finally "it could have got a whole lot worse" - if Donald Trump gets reelected and it is in part due to Musk's financial contributions, then the "whole lot worse" is definitely on its way.
Actually, with Trump in office with Elon, the U.S. be an exciting place to live. The EV mandate will be dropped, thank God. We can get on to issues that really matter, like getting back into energy production, health care (RFK, JR), a real military, not a sissy military. Kam is a complete failure, an empty suit and extremely stupid. She can't conduct a townhall without a teleprompter. And Biden HATES her. She failed as border czar. Oh, we did have electric cars 100 years ago, they failed bigly. I don't know what you have against oil, but everything we enjoy is due to oil. The car you drive, the airplane you fly in, the roads and tires on cars, our clothing, medical equipment, etc. The list is a mile long. Oil is the Earth's gift to man. It is carbon, we are carbon.
Not for money, he has to occupy chargers to allow slower charging vehicles to sit there and make him significantly less than if he had it available for supercharging... and because other evs generally have their charge port in a very different spot, it usually also costs him giving up TWO of those stations so the slow charging car can access just 1 charger. Recognizing we need diverse solutions doesn't mean he is playing ball with Republicans, it just means he isn't deliberately empowering dems to do exactly what you're claiming, with another fuel source... your claim is literally projection. 😂 All in for EV alone is bad mojo for everyone and is ultimately way worse than not taking that path at all.
@PeterWilliamson-nn9et US had them too, they were a total nightmare. Could only operate as long as any turn was nearly straight, had to maneuver super slow, and needed perfectly contiguous lines on the road. Cars were originally supposed to be electric, too, until we realized petrol was much more efficient.
I really wanted to buy a Tesla. I had been saving up to purchase one this very October. Then I started noticing the things Musk was saying, and that he was very radical politically. Worst of all Musk was supporting Trump. That did it for me. I will never buy a Tesla now.
This is why I bought an EV 6. Same price point, in the same class, and you can use the car battery as a back-up power supply in a blackout or use it camping.
@@bobdebouwer7835 "There is no ethical consumption under capitalism." However, that doesn't mean we can't have some discernment. I'd never buy anything linked to Elon Musk. He's not any kind of genius and is a person of bad character.
@@bobdebouwer7835 Perhaps, but most of them are not as stupid as Elon. Musk trashed his brand by having a great big huge and arrogant mouth toilet. Look at the stock value of Tesla and Twitter. Elon is a stupid and immature individual in many ways. I mean damn, even a guy that one’s a restaurant, hardware, or other small business realizes he/she shouldn’t alienate 50% of their customers.
@@bobdebouwer7835 Yeah, but most CEOs are smart enough to keep their mouths shut. Like it or not, Musk has politicized the Tesla brand. A lot of consumers identify with the brands they buy, and don’t want to spend money to be associated with politics or personalities they detest. This stuff is marketing 101.
A PS. For the video. Musk is not going to colonize Mars. Current and past Tesla cars are newer going to be fully autonomous. Tesla opened up their charging standard in the US because the US government was going to fund CCS1 to make that the standard. Tesla wanted that money. * Musk has 2 goals; 1. To make himself the wealthiest person on earth. 2 To help install an authoritarian government in the US (through Trump) which reminds Musk of his beloved authoritarian government which ran apartheid South Africa.
@@FloydThePink it can't happen - at least outside of the US every country has its own traffic regulations. FSD does not know about traffic regulations since it is trained purely on neural networks and driving behaviour of people Tesla would never pay for the ticket you get because FSD crosses a solid line = they will not register for lvl 3 autonomy
*MY SISTER WAS GOING TO BUY A MOD 3* she cancelled the order cos she does NOT want the customers at her martial arts schools to think she is aligned with Elon Ponzi She is getting a Kia - NO ONE has an opinion on a Kia
I have an opinion on Kia. I am a BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi guy. I love Kia cars, they're really beautiful and drive fantastic. I'll never buy one, but when I see them driving I'm always amazed by their looks.
Toyota picked the right horse with hybrids. They didn't buy into the hype or the distortions brought about by the pandemic. Instead they saw the world as it is right now, not what people wished it to be. I'm sure we'll get to an EV future but who knows when. We are off to a solid start thanks to Elon (though it pains me to say that because I don't have a very high opinion of the man).
What tesla was supposed to be: 1. Fast, unlike older electric cars. 2. Have decent range. 3. Have autopilot so that not everyone needs a car and it doesn't have to be parked when not in use. Tesla is actually: 1. Cheap, rebranded shit.
Also note, to ban car ownership rights, mass dependance on grid for recharge and no built in renewiables innovations, aka move beyond the dependency of patrol and plug ports with Hugh costs, limited range, for more chargers needed and mass overpricing of the grid, and like other points said earlier, also can’t operate remotely or sell excess electricity or make income of Uber driving services, easily fmsiabke batteries no better then gas car explosions, and other points made by thousands of other peoples opinions here and far
Not to mention the tesla robotaxi event and, systematic control of transport and society, akak what they want and not a word of what each of us wants, sadly
@@SigFigNewton check again, despite the lack of wear and tear that a normal engine inflicts on itself, you can't take your electric car to the mechanic.
What the hell are you rambling about? My car is very fast, and drives just as far as yours on a charge, and it's charged with power made and stored by my house... also, I have had it a lot longer than my neighbor who has already had to be in a loaner car twice since getting it while waiting for repairs, including the transmission failing to stay in gear. 😂
35 years ago the consensus among engineers was the hybrids would pave the way for EV's. This would be a decades long process as entire infrastructures would need to be converted, apart from the political and cultural hurdles to overcome. The only companies that understood this have been Toyota and Honda. Even VW lost their way due in part to softwaregate.
the notion that europe has no demand is wrong. because in europe we rarely drive very long distance, we don't need oversized expensive batteries which allows EVs to be a bit cheaper. at the end, the price to buy and own needs to be competitive to drive up demand. and this is where things are currently going. the skoda elroq will be similar priced compared to the ICE counterpart. and this is the reason why it will be at nr.1 in the sales chart in europe 2025 in the EV area. also more EVs will be sold than diesel + diesel PHEV in 2025. the US market is currently 3 years behind europe. also partially because truck with long range are a bit expensive to electrify. but that of course will change.
It's nothing to do with Tesla specifically, I think its cars in general people buying less at the moment, especially electric! Because now that electric cars been around for awhile people started to see all the issues they have, not as appealing to own anymore, novelty wore off as well.
Not to mention the tesla robotaxi event and, systematic control of transport and society, akak what they want and not a word of what each of us wants, sadly
It isn't that EVs have "issues"; EVs just perform very specific uses very well, and others less well. It is the same as with all other cars. Would you buy a Mazda Miata if you needed to pull a 30,000 trailer every day? Of course not, you would buy a diesel truck. But people buy a an EV when they drive 600 miles per day in freezing temps and then complain that the EV is a POS. No - the person just bought the wrong car for the intended purpose. People that did their research and were honest about how they use their car before buying are happy with their purchase and are saving huge amounts of money. People that made a bad decision blame the car.
@@chiplangowski3298 We'd have been the ideal people for an EV in many ways, very environmentally aware, and knowledgeable about engineering, and would have spent the money for the environmental benefits ( though they are less than often touted to be) but they simply cannot hack it in the UK- too slow to charge, too little battery capacity, not enough boot space for me due to the battery taking up too much room, not enough charging stations. They're OK for local commuting in cities if you can charge at home and you don't need to take a lot off work tools with you, and that's about it. EVs can't hack it in any respect compared to our manual petrol Ford- which does a heck of a lot to the gallon too.
I canceled my Tesla order after he went off the deep end. Normally I don’t care about political endorsements, but what Musk is doing is beyond normal or okay. I will support every company that competes with Tesla or Musk companies.
@@Foersom_ Thunderfoot just dropped a video about the capture of the booster, which was good. But at this point - having spent $3 billion of tax payers money, he was supposed to have manded humans on the moon...!!! And its a fixed price contract - so he still needs to land people on the moon - but at his own expense.
I know a couple of Tesla owners who are so mad about this entire fiasco. They're just both mad about some of Tesla's build quality, and Musk being a generally awful person now.
And their lineup is quite stale. The model 3 got a refresh, but all the other cars are due. They also have no quality control, so it's pretty standard to get your new Tesla home and start making a list of issues and scheduling warranty service. That's not normal.
@@mahealanihawaii9830 Keep on telling yourself that. They might be good for repurposing other evs. "Tesla shares drop 9% after Cybercab robotaxi reveal 'underwhelmed' investors"
I wouldn’t but a Tesla either but chinese ev’s are window dressing. I don’t think they will last 5 years because corruption in China is ubiquitous. They cut corners ON EVERYTHING.
Also to add, given his recent speech slurring, stuttering and massive deviations when he's speaking, many have said that these are very clear symptoms of Ketamine dependency. If true, the uber wealthy guy running all of these companies is on drugs while he does it.
To be fair, the entire auto market has slowed. I don't think it is necessary that people don't want a Tesla anymore. Funny you showed Silicon Valley clips. In the show, Dinesh only bought the car to one-up everyone. When Danny got the newer model, he needs the premium model. It's not that he enjoys the car, it was important that he's the guy with the best car. As Tesla became more common, it's harder to be that guy. We saw similar product cycle with iPhones or even Stanley Quenchers. The superfan drove the early demands, it would not grow forever.
Yep. The media’s attention has all been about Tesla’s sales slumping yet the EV entire market is slumping. Tesla gets all the hate (sometimes rightfully so for bad QC, false promises and an unhinged CEO) but they are still lead the market in so many ways. Tesla is the Apple of cars, and as we’ve seen with Apple, it’s hard to continuously innovate. If they fail to make giant leaps each year with their tech people call them a failure.
Sure, the auto market has slowed, but Tesla has run out of people who can buy their cars and now they've pushed away people who want to buy it. They're in a different boat. And Elon isn't the "chosen man" his fanboys think he is.
There is some BS here regarding home charging costs for electric vehicles. Home charging costs are significantly lower than the $12.55 or $12.61 per 100 miles for the Chevy Bolt and Tesla Model 3 (and Tesla Model 4 whatever the hell that is). I’m in Michigan and pay $0.15 per kW-hr, and some overnight rates around Detroit are as low as $0.10 per kW-hr. For those two real EVs (I’m not including the imaginary Model 4), you can drive 4 miles for each 1 KW-hr, which means the charging price is just under $0.04 per mile - or under $4.00 per 100 miles. The $12.55 and $12.61 are either mistakes or deliberate disinformation.
I took those figures to be the price for charging at a commercial charging station, but I have no experience of owning or driving an EV so I have no clear idea what that costs.
@@TooSlowTube The figures in the video are labeled ‘HOME CHARGE’ and ‘CHARGING STATION’. I’m referring to the home charge values. Unless you road trip frequently, 90% of your charging will be at home and the cost of electricity- especially for overnight (non peak usage) charging at your home - will be approximately $4.00 per 100 miles (or less).
@@danlambesis1289 Personally, I wouldn't be able to park a car somewhere I could charge it at home, but if I could, it would make an EV more appealing.
It has nothing to do with subsidies. BYD makes better EV plain and simple. Workforce is cheaper, production numbers are high, cost are cheaper. Subsidies are just a fraction of the cost. A lot of western countries are injecting money into some industries. I never saw somebody complained and put tarrifs. It is just that US sucks in inovation. All inovation is coming from Asia at the moment. Bigger markets, developing countries. What US has to offer? A country when you visit it feels like 3rd world country.
Just trying to provide both sides of the argument! I don’t make any of my own conclusions on the matter. If those that support mass EV adoption ignore the genuine concerns others have, you realize that will only create more friction right? We all agree ICE vehicles are not the future but how we get to a better alternative requires a lot of work and challenges ahead. To think it’s already perfect is simply ignorant. Same goes the other way. If you don’t support EVs and ignore those that support it, perhaps it’s because you don’t understand the benefits or perhaps it’s because they are missing something important. We all want a more sustainable, greener earth but how we get to that end goal is up to debate.
@@RaisedMedia Repeating lies of FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) is not "providing both sides". Truth matters and there are a lot of corporate interests who will lose money with EVs and a greener earth.
EVs are already, by far, the best vehicle type for daily commuting. Our EV costs about 1/4 what we used to pay with our hybrid. This is largely because we charge at home when prices are less than $0.08/kWh, but most people in North America can also sign up for similarly priced demand based electricity pricing and program their EV to take advantage of it.
I own 2 Tesla Model Y's and love them! No question, the best cars I've ever owned but, I despise the neo-fascist Elon Musk, and the Cybertruck and cybercab are ugly jokes! Tesla board needs to fire Musk, he's dragging the company down, and hire a sane, level-headed CEO and redesign the Cybertruck, and leave Musk to his money-losing X.
Interesting that after watching this during my morning coffee, I see an article in WaPo about the NHTSA investigating self-almost-driving Tesla crashes. Very interesting.
Quite a lot of unchecked BS here. Tesla Model 4? Come on! Charging prices in Europe are half of petrol (unsure of U.S.) Tesla Autopilot beta is still in the hands of the driver to take control. Says it in the manual. You are basicly watching a learner driver. This Demuro guy also seems to only know half of what he is saying. And there are plenty of charging stations in Europe! Norway is infact leading with more electric than petrol, and new sales are 90% electric now.
Bog-all chargers in the UK. If you can't charge at home, and do long journeys, especially to the rural areas, you're f'd. Small commutes if you have home charging, okay. Otherwise, forget it. And that's from someone who had been quite keen to have one, but not any more.
@@alisonwilson9749 ahem, I have done trips all through europe and stayed in many hotels with charging available. I've been to Bournemouth, Cornwall, London, Köln, Rome, Praque, Bratislava, Gyula (East Hungary), Pula, Ljubljana. How was I able to do that? Ah yes, Tesla Superchargers, destination chargers, Hotel chargers and IONITY. I can literally plug the car in anywhere I have a plug of any type using the Juice Booster.
The Model Y and Model 3 are in the top 6 of best selling cars in America, beating out the likes of the Civic and the Accord, competing against SUVs and trucks. What an absurd statement. Tesla Model 3 is like the iPhone of EVs. The default choice for most new buyers is always the Model 3 (NOT ALL new buyers, but most).
Nobody wants a Tesla, really? Is that why the model Y remains the best selling car in the world? Not the best selling EV, but the best selling car, period. Also soon to pass the Toyota RAV4 as the best selling car in the United States. Is that also why the Tesla Cybertruck is the best selling electric truck, selling more units than Ford, GM and Rivian combined. Yep, nobody wants a Tesla anymore, you are right.🙄
when he gets there they will say sorry we got the fuel load wrong you will have to stay there till your company builds another rocket to come and get you
@@razorworks111 appreciate it. I tried my best to be balanced as possible. The title/thumbnail is admittedly negative but the video is meant to challenge the idea that “nobody wants a Tesla” while also discussing why that idea has become popular in the news as of late
Profit is the reward for taking risks. That is why Tesla is more profitable, and more popular, than any other U.S. EV maker. Cox Auto rates the three best selling EVs in the U.S. for Q3 2024 as 1. The Tesla Model Y (world's best selling auto in any category), 2. The Tesla Model 3, and 3, the Tesla Cybertruck. So much for, "Nobody Wants a Tesla Anymore."
1: All cars from all manufacturers are piling up. 2: My Tesla is 3 years old and has great build quality... better than the Jag I used to have. But Elon is becoming a really stupid dork. I salute the staff of Tesla and SpaceX they are doing great work... not the CEO. Other than that until the infrastructure works with one universal app and payment system. Currently having multiple apps is really stupid. Anyway I find my Tesla works great and is good for long distances because of the Tesla charging network.
Tesla have some issues with their cars, but these could be solved (not sure about self driving). The problems with Elon though are just too much for the company. Sadly he is already destroying it and we can only watch from a distance. Other manufacturers are already starting to make really good EVs and not just the Chinese. EVs are here to stay and will replace ICE cars.
@@jaex9617 indeed doesn't cost as much either... better than the BMW, Audi, and Range Rover we had as well. Tesla = No servicing in 3 years, 0 faults. Seem pretty good to me.
In my humble opinion, I give Tesla credit for getting the all started “again”. I know they had electric cars back in the 1920s, maybe even 1800s But he help re-introduced them, kinda like Steve Jobs did tablets computers, with the iPad. While I don’t like Tesla cars, every time I get in one, I’m always noticing something that’s missing in the poor build quality. I think Tesla strength is in their charging infrastructure, and even their software, and maybe even battery manufacturing. In the future, I think that might be their bread and butter, which they can leverage to other companies. Obviously, Legacy car companies built better cars as far as materials and manufacturing. If most people had the same software, but in a Lincoln, they would prefer the Lincoln’s comfort and build quality over a Tesla. Tesla built everything themselves from the buttons to the seats, and they’re fairly new at it, so naturally they’re not going to be that good, because there’s a learning curve. I personally would not buy an electric car, unless it took gas! Like the Chevy volt (discontinue), Toyota Prius or Prius prime, Ford C max Etc. The plug-in EV, is a huge miss opportunity for the American market, people would feel more comfortable with the option of having gas. You have to think of it as a transitional vehicle, whereby people drive it and say to themselves (after charging at home and going to work and charging at work, etc.) I think I can do an electric vehicle with the way that I drive.
@@fubar12345 Musk is "right of center?" HAHAHA! I'll bet you'd say that he not a racist either. How about Trump, is he just a bit "right of center" too? you ridiculous idiot.
I find it weird that because of Tesla people conflate electric cars, self-driving cars, and connected cars. Electric cars are generally connected cars because you need a computer to control the electric motor anyway, so you might as well stick an LTE radio on it and give the customer an app. But most cars sold nowadays are connected cars. My car runs on gasoline and I have an app on my phone that can unlock the doors and start the engine, surely if the gub'ment wants to turn off my car they can do it in the same way they could an electric one. Tesla does not make any self-driving cars, they sell a Level 2 driver assistance cruise control system that they call "Full Self-Driving (supervised)", but the number of self-driving Teslas in the world is zero. Waymo and Cruise operate self-driving robotaxi networks using gasoline cars.
I'm instinctively in favour of EV adoption but open to having my mind changed, if the driving habits of the american market mean more lifetime CO2 produced from an EV versus the gas equivalent especially if the gas CO2 can be offset/captured e.g. using biofuels and not diverting calories from human consumption in detrimental ways. EVs where it makes sense to EV. Any research on lifetime EV versus gas cars based on usage/market?
Great video, except for the Chinese section. Saying that the Chinese EV market is booming because of high demands without even mentioning that the China heavily subside the sector seem like a big oversight. Especially since you mention that Western countries demand for EV was mostly driven by government subsidies. China subsidise the EV market in even bigger proportion than any country in the world at the moment, which let the Chinese EV compagnies reach ridiculously low price and boost demand. This flood the market tactic with unsustainable price to gain total market dominance is the reason why countries are putting tariffs. And just to be clear, every country does subsidise some of their local economic sector too. The level of support is what make these policies acceptable or not. Of course what represent an acceptable level and what is ''fair'' also varies a lot depending on your economics views, but China is clearly on the abusing side with their policies on EV right now. Nonobstant that section, great work on approaching a tough divisive subject like Elon/Tesla/EV with nuance and many counterpoints!
Totally fair criticism. Appreciate you taking the time to write this. You are right that I should have included more details about Chinese subsidies but I had left it out to keep the focus on infrastructural differences. Felt like the video could have been twice as long if I opened up that can of worms.
@devils666jf: My thoughts exactly, and that’s without even talking about how China is artificially keeping its currency at a low exchange rate, underpays its employees, and unabashedly destroys the environment with no regard whatsoever for its citizens and future, all to undercut prices on international markets and be competitive in an attempt to flood other markets with their products.
My Tesla saved my life 2 times this week. Car crossed median and Tesla swerved before I could react. Could have been a head on. 2nd instance occurred when there was a metal cabinet in the middle of a 2 lane highway driving 60mph. I couldn’t see it because the reflection of the cabinet matched the road surface. My car slowed and swerved just before I noticed it. Truly Amazing vehicle. Nothing else compares. No other car would have done that.
I'm really glad the car saved you both times but realistically any of the dozens of other cars with semi-autonomous driving would have done the same thing.
There was glare on the road and you failed to slow down enough to drive safely? Suppose there had been a cyclist? teslas often fail to see them. They can even fail to see a 40-ton truck slap bang in front of the car for gods' sakes.
@@alisonwilson9749 typical DB comment from a non Tesla owner. Specific instances shared to recognize advancements in safety and someone’s got to hate, hate, hate.
US EV sales were up 10 percent in 2024. ICEV sales were down 3 percent. The only change is the rate of EV adoption. The future of personal transportation is still electric.
@@Zero4Champ I guess you don't understand how numbers work. So, eliminating the math: Over 1.18 million EVs were sold in the US 2023 representing 7.6% of the car market compared to 5.9% of the market in 2022. As of the end of the third quarter of 2024, EV sales were up 10% over 2023 and ICEV sales were down 3% over last year. While the final numbers aren't out yet, Edmunds predicts EV sales will exceed 1.2 million units in 2024 and exceed 8% of all vehicle sales (not including plug in hybrids). The bottom line is, that your original statement was BS. EV adoption is not going to happen overnight, but you need to face reality. The future of personal transportation is electric. Quibbling about the math won't change that. I
@@GeeDeeBird I need to learn how to read numbers? No, buddy you need to learn numbers or English, maybe both. Here's your previous quote, "That's true. But 10 percent of a little over a million is 1.2 million. And that ain't jack." Read that and tell me how 10 percent of over a million is 1.2 million. That math is not mathing, as the kids say.. Second the adoption rate of EVs is incredibly slow. To the point that it's not going to make it. If billions in subsidies is not enough to convert at least 20 percent of buyers by this point, it's not happening. Most experts expect a market saturation level of 30 percent tops. Overall car sales are down and EV companies are dying left and right. Rivian is on the ropes. Stelantis is leaning heavily into EVs and they're about to go belly up. The only EV company doing well in America is Tesla, that's because of hype and a Cult of Personality. That cult is quickly losing members.
To be fair, it's not only Tesla that is having troubles, the whole western auto industry is doing bad, mainly because people are less optimistic about the future and are saving money and Chinese EVs dominating the market. They get government support and have less regulations so they can make their cars cheaper than their US or EU counterparts meanwhile here there are strict environmental protection and work regulations (I am not saying that I'm against them). The EU and the US are trying to push back but the future is not so bright. I am from a country where huge amounts of our GDP comes from assembling German cars, so if the German auto industry falls, so does our economy. Electric cars are the definition of greenwashing, the batteries are highly toxic and can't be properly disposed of and their production is very polluting. The true green future is public transport but that's slightly more uncomfortable so I guess my grandchildren will be drinking battery acid infused water :D
Yep, not only is the demand for EVs down by the economic landscape has changed so many companies are deciding to refocus on prioritizing the cars that actually make them money haha. Great points!
@@dancermgl739 have you driven one? Try a car that has instant torque and can drive itself? And 1/4 fuel and the BIGGEST thing is no maintenance. Ice cars break everything.. fans belts oil transmission breaks ect.
5:30 i mean its way more than 5x profit, isnt it? Youre likely talking about revenue? Im pretty sure the pay package is more than Tesla has EVER profited
Tesla quality has become wonderful My wife and I have 2 Model Ys. They've been perfect. .... And I guess you haven't heard that Tesla just had a record Q3? Including a record Q3 in China. Sales are are depressed a little because people are waiting for the new Model Y. I know 2 people who want a Model Y but won't buy because they're waiting for the new one. And in case you haven't noticed, Tesla's the only company making a profit on pure BEVs.
Growth is in reverse. The future will be really challenging for Tesla, who needs to export too. They look over priced in many markets. Tarrifs have a two way affect American exports too.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's funny listening to Tesla bots lie. Tesla's profit margins have dropped every quarter since Q2 2022. Q2 2024 was the lowest profit margin for Tesla in 5 years. The only reason Tesla turns a profit is because they sell energy credits. It's over for Tesla 😂
@@Freerider93 Tesla energy credits only make up about 20% of Tesla's profits. They'd do just fine without them. And Tesla's the only car company making a profit on pure BEVs. Tesla profit margins have declined a little, but are still at a healthy level, better than most car companies. ......And Tesla has $30 billion in cash and virtually no debt. No car company has that kind of a balance sheet. .... I think you need to go look at the Tesla books before you post false and cherry-picked numbers.
Battery tech is getting much cheaper. EV manufacturers are offering cars now which are better and cheaper than their predecessors as a result. This results in higher levels of depreciation, and the early adopters, having been stung, may feel they wish to revert to more conventional cars because of this. The situation will be temporary, as battery-electric cars become better and cheaper than their ICE equivalents.
What are you smoking?? LOL I’m seeing Cybertrucks everywhere even my neighbor got one. There are more Teslas than ever before. This year is on course to reach the same car volume sale as last year. 1.8 million cars. Last year the Model Y was number 1 sold car in the world and this year it’s currently number 2 most sold car in the US right behind the RAV4 and it’s on track to beat it. Tesla energy business is also rocketing! You clearly haven’t done your homework and just emoting. SMH
Perhaps you don’t understand what slowing growth means…not saying they aren’t the top seller, in fact it’s mentioned numerous times in the video! Fyi, for Q3 2024 Tesla sales are up 4% from Q2 2024 but for the first and second quarters of 2024, Tesla reported drops in sales of 9% and 5%, respectively, the first time in the company’s history that it reported two consecutive quarters of declining sales. Even with the increased sales reported in Q3, its year-to-to-date deliveries of 1.3 million vehicles is down 2% from a year ago.
@@RaisedMedia sure but look at the entire auto industry and see how everyone else is doing this year. VW is looking to shut down plants in Europe for the first time ever. So sure YTD sales may be down but Tesla is still doing quite well relative to all other car markers this year… And time will tell how demand is moving forward.
His only important major company is SpaceX, which due to its national security impact should be acquired or nationalized and run by a grown up. He has done great and amazing things but has clearly lost the plot.
You've lost the plot if you think nationalizing SpaceX would improve it. There's already a nationalized space organization, it's called NASA, and they are experts in wasting money. SLS is a massive failure.
Tesla is steadily losing markete share to legacy automakers, and their market share is now less than 50%. People are discovering that non-Tesla cars have better build quality better reliability, are easier to repair, and often are cheaper, more comfortable, and more fun.
Yep, they also use thousands of bots to post negative comments about Tesla. It's a very low cost way of increasing market share through reputational damage.
When it comes to self driving electric vehicles, no one comes close to Tesla. They are so astronomically far ahead in this regard. So i'm still buying a Tesla next year.
Interesting! Out of curiosity, may I ask why you place self driving as a priority for your decision making when it comes to buying a new car? I don’t disagree that Tesla is miles ahead of its competitors in that regard but they haven’t quite nailed FSD yet either. It’s a pretty cool feature but I’m surprised to hear you say it’s a key decision criteria. Most people seem to think it’s a neat value add but not a deal breaker either way.
@@thomasfarin663 As of May 6, 2024, there are over 109,000 cities and towns in the United States. Waymo is available in only 4 of them.... On top of that it is not a vehicle that can can be purchased and owned by consumers. It is a taxi service that can drive in 4 pre-mapped cities. So until the vehicles can actually be purchased and owned by consumers at a reasonable price and is available in more than .01% of a country it is far behind tesla.
Just by saying "Run by a maniac that is despised by most people" you let your bias out of the closet. The whole thing reads like a shpeel from an envious Democrat. I will surely remember the name of this channel to avoid making the mistake of click in your bait again.
WARNING: Before you get mad and don't watch the entire video...NOTE: This video isn't meant to be political, I'm not even American. The video is meant to explore the popular idea within current media that Tesla is struggling for a variety of reasons, including Elon Musk's strings of controversies. It's my attempt to be balanced as possible. I do not have an agenda beyond hoping you will enjoy the video lol.
He doesn't deserve balanced view on him, he's totally off balance himself. If you start paying attention to contradictions in his words and actions, he's a shear con artist.
I watched the entire video, and it is political and old debunked crap from oil companies. I want my 15 minutes back., I wish RUclips had a bigger thing I could do than downvote and block the channel.
@@davidlloyd1526 David, with all due respect, I don't believe you have understood the point of the video at all. What specifically is "debunked crap from oil companies?" The general consensus amongst experts is that EVs, despite some short-term issues surrounding mineral mining, are still a much better alternative to ICE vehicles. As for this video being political, I'm not sure how you can discuss Elon's controversies without discussing his recent emergence into the political world that has clearly affected the perception of him and Tesla as a whole. Whether you support his politics or not, is not for me to judge. The video intentionally does not interject my opinions on the matter. I apologize you felt your 15 minutes were wasted but your conclusions about the video are wildly inaccurate.
@@RaisedMedia At 13:40 you blame him for not putting 100% into Tesla, but "shooting rockets into space". Like space and rockets are bad and just for fun... Weird.
I've worked for a lot of scary bosses (and coworkers!) in my career, but I never thought the company should go under as a result, I needed my job! Employees do the hard work of making Teslas, why attack them? Elon being a socially underdeveloped consumer just humanizes him to me. Slandering the whole company just makes you exactly like Elon. He's a simplistic, lazy consumer of information, content to appeal to a similarly aligned fan base for self-aggrandizement. Just like everybody else, pretty much. All consumers are Elons, they just have different brand/tribal affiliations. Their values are situational and temporary, the basic consumer template. So Basic. So Simple. So Consumer.
Since his turn in politics, the dichotomy of my conservative friends/coworkers is so weird. They think Musk is great now, while trashing EVs the next sentence.
Not weird at all. Conservatives don't worship the man. SpaceX has done some amazing things, while Tesla played the system for profit. No one is perfect. Most of all, level headed people are thankful he brought truth back to Twitter X. The left can cry and stamp their feet all they want. Musk won't be stopped.
They're always slower to adopt new things. They'll come around. Musk will be the person to finally manage to sell EVs to conservatives - approximately half the market. They'll choose Tesla because of his politics and to support American manufacturing into the future.
It's brilliant really, he'll accelerate sustainable energy even more, and he'll corner at least half the US auto market over the next decade. The whole time, accumulating even more driving data.
Cause they see the difference between a man and a company. Like let's say I don't like gays, does it mean my company is homophobic? Lol, of course not. Why would I want to turn my money machine into political shisthow with protests outside the gates, also that would be illegal so fuck my stocks price. People be dumb jumping to conclusions, unless a politician starts saying stuff like this I don't see any problem with having a personal opinion. And to be fair, whole system is dumb, market runners adjust the price based on these events after all
Most conservatives have no problem with EV's. We just need to be smart about it. Forcing the industry to change via policy is not working and costly. Elon made EV's cool before democrats starting hating on him for his opinions. The other real issue is the US NOT controlling or having the industries needed for alternatives to work. We don't even have the infrastructure but already politicans are mandating change on the people. Above all we should have choices, I don't want a government telling me I have to own a EV or electic mower because of whatever they believe.
@rickjames18 right, I have an ev, I also have a big truck and a phev. My house makes it's own power and charges my cars for around town, while I use gas on the weekends and when I need the truck...
None of my lefty friends can say the same, even the ones with ev still just plug into the grid burning fossil fuel and garbage.
I think that anyone firing 10.000 workers to get 53 Billion "salary" is not a good guy. Data from free press.
No, the shareholder agreed compensation package stipulated that Elon would receive no salary. $0.
His reward was stock options - worth about $2 billion at the time. But only if the performance targets for Tesla were hit. The targets were considered extremely ambitious at the time, the media mocked Elon saying he would never hit such goals.
But he did. More than hit them, he massively exceeded all targets. He made thousands of Tesla employees multi millionaires through the stock increase. The value of his personal compensation had gone from $2 billion to $53 billion because of the value he created for the company and its' employees.
That is the real truth. But people just believe what they want to believe, very few people give a shit about the truth anymore.
"There was a time when everyone wanted a Tesla."
Not me. Ever.
I hated right there when I first sat in the car LOL how low the quality it was..
If I had to choose between Tesla and BYD, I would want BYD for the higher quality, well-built EV car at a reasonable price.
Ever wonder why nobody wants to buy a used Tesla?
Elon is working overtime to make sure Tesla goes the same way Twitter did.
"I re-invented electric cars and I´m sending people to mars in a rocket ship - did you think I was also gonna be a chill normal dude?" - wait a minute, was tesla not founded by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning who should get this credit? I bet they are still normal dudes and don´t use their re-invention to act crazy.
Yeah, and it also isn’t like he built the car himself. People much smarter than him were the ones who made the unthinkable possible. Sometimes I think Tesla survived despite Musk and not because of him.
He’s also never sending anyone to Mars. He can’t even get out of our atmosphere 🤣
Elon made it happen.He's the one that Pumped most of the funding in and took on incredible risk which he said himself years ago he expected to fail. He notes that he's not the only inventor, but the other inventors didn't show the balls that he did. He may have failings, but he's an incredible mentality which nobody else has been able to emulate.He is far beyond Steve jobs FFS. Ultimately, he started several businesses that are incredibly maverick and people are just jealous
@@Rowlph8888 enabling something is different from directly creating it. His success depends mostly on luck and trust, luck that the final product is feasible (there are way too many unknowns before the start of any project) and trust that the people he chose can actually deliver. But ultimately, it's the people he chose that are the ones directly responsible for creating something tangible. Musk is as much of an inventor of electric cars as JP Morgan is an inventor of AC electric circuits.
@@Rowlph8888 Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning founded Tesla Motors in 2003. Musk was an early investor and board member before becoming CEO in 2007. He later paid out a settlement after he started calling himself a Tesla founder and got sued by the original founders. He basically paid a ton of money to the actual founders to be able to call himself a founder of Tesla.
I guess by that logic we could still have another new founder of Tesla if someone with enough money comes along to buy that title.
If you think Elon Musk is anywhere near Steve Jobs, you need to do your research on Musk. Not even close. Jobs was a true inventor!
He did not re-invent electric cars!!!!!! The company already built cars before he BOUGHT IN! Not founded, BOUGHT IN!
Then forced out the original founders and proceded to royally f**k up the company. Pretty much everything Musk touches ends up being a total steaming rancid pile of shite. At least Pay Pal was quick to realize what at total POS twat Elon was and curbed this arse before he ruined them forever.
The company was well on the way to bankruptcy, he saved it and turned it into one of the valuable and fast growing companies in the US.
US manufacturing had been in decline for decades, then this guy came along and created thousands of jobs, made the world realize the US was still capable of greatness.
And you petty little chuds come along and shit on him, for what? For not bending the knee to your weird auth left cult. Fuck your cult. It only exists so auth left grifters can make outrage videos for ad revenue. Tesla and SpaceX will continue to prosper for years after the cult has lost all relevancy.
He didn’t start the company but to be fair Tesla would likely never have succeeded without his leadership.
@@PistolPete.r I doubt it........Someone who was actually competent would of been found by the two people who actually created the company if required.
As it was, he damn near killed the company right from the start by demanding stupid changes in the original design.
I will grant you he is one hell of a hypeman, a huckster and conman, probably could even sell snow to the Inuits in the middle of an arctic winter, but as a manager, designer or programmer, he is total shite.
Tesla's market cap is highly over valued, and it will one crash down hard. Tesla's sales and production numbers cannot support such a valuation, basically its stock is a bubble full of hot air looking to pop.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 Spacex Falcon rocket takes off puts satellites in space flies back and lands itself back on the ground. Boeing sent two people to the space station for 2-3 days and Spacex had to rescue them 3-4 months later. Starlink, a subsiduary of Spacex now valued at $180bn
I went to pay cash for a model x. Then, I drove one at their dealership at Las Vegas. What a dangerous p.o.s. I had to take my eyes off the road to control anything. Everything was on the touch screen. The purchase experience was terrible. I walked out on the salesperson. Tesla has a cultish reputation for their poorly built cars.
things that didn't happen. you went to pay cash at the tesla dealership? sure bud.
@@afterthesmoke bro, he's a billionaire investor...
@@eliahlander5836so claims a guy on the Internet 😂
@@kkhoe it’s a joke..look at the username
*MY SISTER WAS GOING TO BUY A MOD 3* she cancelled the order cos she does NOT want the customers at her martial arts schools to think she is aligned with Elon Ponzi
She is getting a Kia - NO ONE has an opinion on a Kia
I wanted a used Tesla until i found out you dont ever get to see it before you take delivery. Theyll keep your deposit if you reject the car upon arrival. I wont buy something without seeing it... how others do is insane to me!
It's the whole cult of Musk, just shut up and BELIEVE. And if you get screwed, you're supposed to be happy for the privilege of brushing up against such a wonderful company.
You should be thankful that they do this. They are saving you the time and disappointed
@@bobdebouwer7835
No doubt. When Tesla groupies hear any criticism of the car, they always throw out that it's the #1 selling car blah blah blah. My answer back is that people in high numbers being snowed doesn't make it less of a screw-job, it just means that more people are in for one hell of a disappointment. I had a coworker last week that couldn't get in his car until lunchtime because the phone app and his car weren't playing nice with each other. Screw that, I don't ever want that to even be a possibility.
I dont care about Elons politics or takes. But the fact he keeps his companies alive on goverment gibs and shareholder money by promising it all and delivering barely anything makes me despise him. His nature is parasitic.
I do care about his politics. He sucks putin's ... biomaterial... Not buying a Tesla, ever.
Tesla has more than $36bn in cash and very little debt Tesla is very very solvent and has no risk of going bust. Detroit 3 only have dreams about the wealth of Tesla.
Model Y no 2 seller in the US in all car sales not just EV and number 1 worldwide, "delivery barely anything" why do so many of these commenters with very little real knowledge add 4 numbers to their log on id, is this a sign of their low IQ level or does it make them feel important, I don´t try to criticise people, just point out the facts in the real world.
Spacex worth about $180bn and even more when they do the Starlink IPO. Did you watch the launch this morning. Launched Spaceship 5 early this morning after 2.5 minutes separated from the booster rocket, booster rocket dropped back down to earth, right where the launch tower was and caught the booster rocket on 2 claws on the launch tower, everyone said they thought that was impossible, they will refurb the booster and have it ready to reuse for another launch in 10 days.
Musk personally worth about $180bn despite the Twitter mistake.
I own teslas for 8 years now 4 including the new Cybertruck. SpaceX has done what nasal has failed to do. Tesla has done what any type of travel has failed to do. Starling is saving lives.
What have you done?
No dispute but he doesn't get a pass for all his government handouts and his constant pumping and lying and overpromising @@mahealanihawaii9830..... oh and he's in bed with Trump Murdoch and Russia. Lovely.
@@mahealanihawaii9830NASA or Nasal?
3:28 _"I reinvented electric cars. And I'm sending people to Mars in a rocketship."_
Errrrr, no. And no.
I can't believe how many people fall for the Mars nonsense. It's totally uninhabitable long term, not to mention no one will ever set foot on it. The rovers that supposedly run around up there have no way to clean their solar panels after a daily dust storm and have magic batteries that work for 10+ years in -200F. Nasa does make some good CGI though!
And whenever one of his endeavors fail (and the list of fails is long and distinguished), you get yelled at, "At least he dares to dream, unlike you!!!" He dreams about dumb stuff, Hyperloop is literally the most assinine project I've ever seen. The moron media gushed about it right up until it crashed.
"Tesla's hilariously bad quality control..."
Tesla has NO quality control. Every vehicle that comes off the assembly line, is shipped out. While other car makers will pull their cars off the line for things like uneven paint, body panel gaps, electrical issues, or a dozen other problems, Tesla ignores all those issues and sends out every vehicle that would be rejected and crushed by any other auto maker. All those new cars you see getting destroyed in movies and TV shows are those rejects. The automaker can't sell them, but they can get some free publicity for their car models, so they give the rejects to movie companies to get destroyed on camera.
A friend of mine ordered a Tesla a few years ago and refused it when it showed up. The body panels were all cock-eyed, not just panel gaps. When he first saw it from a distance, he could see the panels were really out of alignment. Then he got inside and the car shuddered when he closed the door. He could slide the interior panels around. He couldn't believe that this piece of shit was allowed to leave the factory, let alone be handed over to a paying customer. And this was a guy that bought into their spiel and ordered one.
Yes, they have NO quality control.
In no other cars do you need to start making a list of issues for repair the moment you drive it off the lot, but it's standard for Tesla.
@@volvo09 And every time one of Musk's cultists lists off all the problems they're having with their new Tesla, they end it with an enthusiastic "Still the best car I've ever had!"
Ohh cool. I really thought u americans are just blind.
In germany we its pretty much known nowdays that you should never buy an Model S or X. Since they are being produced in the US only.
Only Model 3 and Y from Shanghai or germany are okay when it comes to build quality
it gets worse. I even asked my local Tesla SC and asked them if the quality of X and S is still bad. Because of I was considering buy a Model S Plaid.
The service manager was honest and told me NO still bad.
I have to clue what on earth the 2 tesla plants in the US have been doing the last 10 years of not fixing their quality problems.
But i still dont get it how they got road legal approval in the EU. I have never driven a car with such horrible brakes. I was even at Tesla SC to let them to a full service and check the brakes.
I dont know any tesla owner that ever said their brakes are fine.
Its mindblowing to ship out such powerful cars with such horrible brakes.
False, of course Tesla has quality control, and the quality is just fine. Quality has improved significantly the past few years, but the impression of bad quality is sticky with the public... First Model Y's from Fremont were really bad, as well as the Model 3, Sandy Munro was "not happy" about the many quality issues on the first Model 3 he tear down. But later models were very well made. In those early years many video's on RUclips showing this, but these get less and less the past few years.
I have a Shanghai made Model Y, its perfect, inspected it thouroughly when I picked up the car, but could not find anything wrong with it... and after 3 years still as new.
The bad ones all come from Fremont, the cars from other factories are just fine, because of improved production methods and much better quality control.
@@MarcoNierop yeah, 2 comments on the channel and both are encyclopedia length replies of how Tesla is great "now".
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Several points I want to pick apart:
* "Electric Car Features" you mention in this video like Tesla's "Full Self Driving", etc., that may alienate some customers and are associated with electric cars are not inherently tied to electric car technology. You can strap on an full autopilot feature onto any modern automatic internal combustion engine car with minimal modifications - the only thing may have stopped "conentional" car manufacturers from doing that is their existing processes and lack of imagination.
* "The Infrastructure isn't there yet" - of course it isn't ready for 100% electric car usage, and it doesn't have to be.
* "Even Elon Musk says we need more drilling short term" - firstly it's a mistake to take any statement made by Elon Musk at face value, and secondly Musk's recent pivot towards the US Republican Party could well mean he's trying to appease the oil-drilling fraction of that party and that electorate.
* "Tesla opened its supercharger network to everyone" - you're talking about it as if it were a sign of good will, but firstly it's a good source of money for Tesla, and secondly it's in exchange for government subsidies
* Elon Musk did not found Tesla. Tesla already existed and was already producing cars when Elon Musk invested in it and then took it over. Had he not done so, someone else would almost certainly have.
* Finally "it could have got a whole lot worse" - if Donald Trump gets reelected and it is in part due to Musk's financial contributions, then the "whole lot worse" is definitely on its way.
Actually, with Trump in office with Elon, the U.S. be an exciting place to live. The EV mandate will be dropped, thank God. We can get on to issues that really matter, like getting back into energy production, health care (RFK, JR), a real military, not a sissy military. Kam is a complete failure, an empty suit and extremely stupid. She can't conduct a townhall without a teleprompter. And Biden HATES her. She failed as border czar.
Oh, we did have electric cars 100 years ago, they failed bigly.
I don't know what you have against oil, but everything we enjoy is due to oil. The car you drive, the airplane you fly in, the roads and tires on cars, our clothing, medical equipment, etc. The list is a mile long. Oil is the Earth's gift to man. It is carbon, we are carbon.
Not for money, he has to occupy chargers to allow slower charging vehicles to sit there and make him significantly less than if he had it available for supercharging... and because other evs generally have their charge port in a very different spot, it usually also costs him giving up TWO of those stations so the slow charging car can access just 1 charger.
Recognizing we need diverse solutions doesn't mean he is playing ball with Republicans, it just means he isn't deliberately empowering dems to do exactly what you're claiming, with another fuel source... your claim is literally projection. 😂
All in for EV alone is bad mojo for everyone and is ultimately way worse than not taking that path at all.
VW had self driving cars in the 70 s I guess the were ahead of their time
@PeterWilliamson-nn9et US had them too, they were a total nightmare. Could only operate as long as any turn was nearly straight, had to maneuver super slow, and needed perfectly contiguous lines on the road.
Cars were originally supposed to be electric, too, until we realized petrol was much more efficient.
I really wanted to buy a Tesla. I had been saving up to purchase one this very October. Then I started noticing the things Musk was saying, and that he was very radical politically. Worst of all Musk was supporting Trump. That did it for me. I will never buy a Tesla now.
You must not buy many products then. Many ceo's are nuts
This is why I bought an EV 6. Same price point, in the same class, and you can use the car battery as a back-up power supply in a blackout or use it camping.
@@bobdebouwer7835 "There is no ethical consumption under capitalism." However, that doesn't mean we can't have some discernment. I'd never buy anything linked to Elon Musk. He's not any kind of genius and is a person of bad character.
@@bobdebouwer7835 Perhaps, but most of them are not as stupid as Elon. Musk trashed his brand by having a great big huge and arrogant mouth toilet. Look at the stock value of Tesla and Twitter. Elon is a stupid and immature individual in many ways. I mean damn, even a guy that one’s a restaurant, hardware, or other small business realizes he/she shouldn’t alienate 50% of their customers.
@@bobdebouwer7835 Yeah, but most CEOs are smart enough to keep their mouths shut. Like it or not, Musk has politicized the Tesla brand. A lot of consumers identify with the brands they buy, and don’t want to spend money to be associated with politics or personalities they detest. This stuff is marketing 101.
A PS. For the video. Musk is not going to colonize Mars. Current and past Tesla cars are newer going to be fully autonomous. Tesla opened up their charging standard in the US because the US government was going to fund CCS1 to make that the standard. Tesla wanted that money.
* Musk has 2 goals; 1. To make himself the wealthiest person on earth. 2 To help install an authoritarian government in the US (through Trump) which reminds Musk of his beloved authoritarian government which ran apartheid South Africa.
The people that have paid 15k USD for FSD are gonna lawyer up like crazy if it doesn't happen.
All parties are authoritarian . They are equally bad. But yes Musk is full of bs.
The left are much more authoritarian. Go back to your cave, commie.
@@FloydThePink it can't happen - at least outside of the US
every country has its own traffic regulations. FSD does not know about traffic regulations since it is trained purely on neural networks and driving behaviour of people
Tesla would never pay for the ticket you get because FSD crosses a solid line = they will not register for lvl 3 autonomy
They already are autonomous, check the latest release
my god, Musk leaving Tesla would have been great for the company...
Black Maga Elon! 😂 Will bankrupt Tesla
When can you speed it up a bit?
He is a scam like TRump.
*MY SISTER WAS GOING TO BUY A MOD 3* she cancelled the order cos she does NOT want the customers at her martial arts schools to think she is aligned with Elon Ponzi
She is getting a Kia - NO ONE has an opinion on a Kia
Smart move. A far superior car!
Sorry to hear she payed good money for a worse car. Its also too bad she supported the car stealership cartel. Elon ponzi lol
If you buy a car based of what other people think of your car you are a idiot and a puppet..
I have an opinion on Kia. I am a BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi guy. I love Kia cars, they're really beautiful and drive fantastic. I'll never buy one, but when I see them driving I'm always amazed by their looks.
@@GuusJanssen Kinda what I mean but badly worded - no one is going to dislike you for owning a kia
Toyota picked the right horse with hybrids. They didn't buy into the hype or the distortions brought about by the pandemic. Instead they saw the world as it is right now, not what people wished it to be. I'm sure we'll get to an EV future but who knows when. We are off to a solid start thanks to Elon (though it pains me to say that because I don't have a very high opinion of the man).
I agree, Toyota was smart to go all in on the EV hype. Good risk mitigation
I don't care what they say my Prius - I love it.
@@stretch654 Me too. It's a great car, with incredible acceleration and fantastic fuel economy. Mine is old an still look sleek.
@@RaisedMedia smart to go all in? I thought they kind of mitigated their risk by going hybrid.
@@graxxor They went billions of usd into hydrogen, which has a way higher cost of infrastructure than electric. Was dead end. Then they went hybrid.
What tesla was supposed to be:
1. Fast, unlike older electric cars.
2. Have decent range.
3. Have autopilot so that not everyone needs a car and it doesn't have to be parked when not in use.
Tesla is actually:
1. Cheap, rebranded shit.
It´s all that stupid. 😂
Also note, to ban car ownership rights, mass dependance on grid for recharge and no built in renewiables innovations, aka move beyond the dependency of patrol and plug ports with Hugh costs, limited range, for more chargers needed and mass overpricing of the grid, and like other points said earlier, also can’t operate remotely or sell excess electricity or make income of Uber driving services, easily fmsiabke batteries no better then gas car explosions, and other points made by thousands of other peoples opinions here and far
Not to mention the tesla robotaxi event and, systematic control of transport and society, akak what they want and not a word of what each of us wants, sadly
@@SigFigNewton check again, despite the lack of wear and tear that a normal engine inflicts on itself, you can't take your electric car to the mechanic.
What the hell are you rambling about?
My car is very fast, and drives just as far as yours on a charge, and it's charged with power made and stored by my house... also, I have had it a lot longer than my neighbor who has already had to be in a loaner car twice since getting it while waiting for repairs, including the transmission failing to stay in gear. 😂
35 years ago the consensus among engineers was the hybrids would pave the way for EV's.
This would be a decades long process as entire infrastructures would need to be converted, apart from the political and cultural hurdles to overcome.
The only companies that understood this have been Toyota and Honda. Even VW lost their way due in part to softwaregate.
He is a lot like Trump they both born in wealthy families and both twist the facts and just think of themselves
They're both weird.
You are way off. Fact check
Elon was not born rich. Lol Lefties need to know what is a women first.
They are both weird
@@jjohur I just read the whole internet. Musk is weird and on the spectrum. And t-rump has siphlissss
the notion that europe has no demand is wrong. because in europe we rarely drive very long distance, we don't need oversized expensive batteries which allows EVs to be a bit cheaper. at the end, the price to buy and own needs to be competitive to drive up demand.
and this is where things are currently going. the skoda elroq will be similar priced compared to the ICE counterpart. and this is the reason why it will be at nr.1 in the sales chart in europe 2025 in the EV area. also more EVs will be sold than diesel + diesel PHEV in 2025.
the US market is currently 3 years behind europe. also partially because truck with long range are a bit expensive to electrify. but that of course will change.
Are you even paying attention? EV sales dropped in Europe this year.
@@Freerider93 let me correct you there: Tesla sales dropped in Europe this year. Other brands doing fine
It's nothing to do with Tesla specifically, I think its cars in general people buying less at the moment, especially electric! Because now that electric cars been around for awhile people started to see all the issues they have, not as appealing to own anymore, novelty wore off as well.
its also because they are expensive AF. the people who wanted an EV got their hands on it, and the ones who dont, have just continued buying ICE.
I wanted to switch to an EV a couple of years ago but after checking the prices in Canada I ended up leasing a BMW X4 for roughly the same money. 😎
Not to mention the tesla robotaxi event and, systematic control of transport and society, akak what they want and not a word of what each of us wants, sadly
It isn't that EVs have "issues"; EVs just perform very specific uses very well, and others less well. It is the same as with all other cars. Would you buy a Mazda Miata if you needed to pull a 30,000 trailer every day? Of course not, you would buy a diesel truck. But people buy a an EV when they drive 600 miles per day in freezing temps and then complain that the EV is a POS. No - the person just bought the wrong car for the intended purpose. People that did their research and were honest about how they use their car before buying are happy with their purchase and are saving huge amounts of money. People that made a bad decision blame the car.
@@chiplangowski3298 We'd have been the ideal people for an EV in many ways, very environmentally aware, and knowledgeable about engineering, and would have spent the money for the environmental benefits ( though they are less than often touted to be) but they simply cannot hack it in the UK- too slow to charge, too little battery capacity, not enough boot space for me due to the battery taking up too much room, not enough charging stations. They're OK for local commuting in cities if you can charge at home and you don't need to take a lot off work tools with you, and that's about it. EVs can't hack it in any respect compared to our manual petrol Ford- which does a heck of a lot to the gallon too.
When your best friend Trump is saying "dont buy electric vehicles"
He isn't saying don't buy them, he says don't force people to buy them, and stop making shady back door deals to prop them up.
we can tell you are a Beta male. Its OK.
I canceled my Tesla order after he went off the deep end.
Normally I don’t care about political endorsements, but what Musk is doing is beyond normal or okay.
I will support every company that competes with Tesla or Musk companies.
If Tesla even exists in 10 years time. I'll eat a shoe(:-)
and i will eat the other one. tesla is toast.
I hope you like the taste of shoe
@@fubar12345 Tesla will succeed because people don't care about negativity.
insightful
@@fubar12345they're boot lickers, so it's not like it's much of a stretch 😂
Number one reason why I refuse to buy a Tesla is because Musk admitted to being an Edison guy, but his business is using the Tesla name.
*ELON PONZI* if we all start calling him Elon Ponzi - it might just end up bankrupting him
Remember Enron? Enlon Musk.
@@Foersom_ Thunderfoot just dropped a video about the capture of the booster, which was good. But at this point - having spent $3 billion of tax payers money, he was supposed to have manded humans on the moon...!!!
And its a fixed price contract - so he still needs to land people on the moon - but at his own expense.
I know a couple of Tesla owners who are so mad about this entire fiasco. They're just both mad about some of Tesla's build quality, and Musk being a generally awful person now.
TESLA TRUCK AKA TRASH CAN ON WHEELS 😂😂😂
Is there a pedal you press to make the top hinge open? Maybe that's an extra.
Elon Musk is the poster boy of someone trying to self-immolate live on TV.
The bad build quality and lack of innovation is the reason I don't want a tesla. I would trust a ev from China than a tesla.
And their lineup is quite stale. The model 3 got a refresh, but all the other cars are due.
They also have no quality control, so it's pretty standard to get your new Tesla home and start making a list of issues and scheduling warranty service.
That's not normal.
More for us.
@@mahealanihawaii9830 Keep on telling yourself that. They might be good for repurposing other evs.
"Tesla shares drop 9% after Cybercab robotaxi reveal 'underwhelmed' investors"
I wouldn’t but a Tesla either but chinese ev’s are window dressing. I don’t think they will last 5 years because corruption in China is ubiquitous. They cut corners ON EVERYTHING.
I’d trust neither ch8n or tesla , maybe rather trust a ev /hydrogen/hybrid,toyota,Honda,Chrysler, or ford, polestar,jeep etc,
Also to add, given his recent speech slurring, stuttering and massive deviations when he's speaking, many have said that these are very clear symptoms of Ketamine dependency. If true, the uber wealthy guy running all of these companies is on drugs while he does it.
To be fair, the entire auto market has slowed.
I don't think it is necessary that people don't want a Tesla anymore. Funny you showed Silicon Valley clips. In the show, Dinesh only bought the car to one-up everyone. When Danny got the newer model, he needs the premium model. It's not that he enjoys the car, it was important that he's the guy with the best car.
As Tesla became more common, it's harder to be that guy. We saw similar product cycle with iPhones or even Stanley Quenchers. The superfan drove the early demands, it would not grow forever.
Yep. The media’s attention has all been about Tesla’s sales slumping yet the EV entire market is slumping. Tesla gets all the hate (sometimes rightfully so for bad QC, false promises and an unhinged CEO) but they are still lead the market in so many ways. Tesla is the Apple of cars, and as we’ve seen with Apple, it’s hard to continuously innovate. If they fail to make giant leaps each year with their tech people call them a failure.
Sure, the auto market has slowed, but Tesla has run out of people who can buy their cars and now they've pushed away people who want to buy it. They're in a different boat. And Elon isn't the "chosen man" his fanboys think he is.
There is some BS here regarding home charging costs for electric vehicles. Home charging costs are significantly lower than the $12.55 or $12.61 per 100 miles for the Chevy Bolt and Tesla Model 3 (and Tesla Model 4 whatever the hell that is). I’m in Michigan and pay $0.15 per kW-hr, and some overnight rates around Detroit are as low as $0.10 per kW-hr.
For those two real EVs (I’m not including the imaginary Model 4), you can drive 4 miles for each 1 KW-hr, which means the charging price is just under $0.04 per mile - or under $4.00 per 100 miles. The $12.55 and $12.61 are either mistakes or deliberate disinformation.
I took those figures to be the price for charging at a commercial charging station, but I have no experience of owning or driving an EV so I have no clear idea what that costs.
@@TooSlowTube The figures in the video are labeled ‘HOME CHARGE’ and ‘CHARGING STATION’. I’m referring to the home charge values. Unless you road trip frequently, 90% of your charging will be at home and the cost of electricity- especially for overnight (non peak usage) charging at your home - will be approximately $4.00 per 100 miles (or less).
@@danlambesis1289 Personally, I wouldn't be able to park a car somewhere I could charge it at home, but if I could, it would make an EV more appealing.
Tariffs on imports are totally justified when competing against subsidies.
It has nothing to do with subsidies. BYD makes better EV plain and simple. Workforce is cheaper, production numbers are high, cost are cheaper. Subsidies are just a fraction of the cost. A lot of western countries are injecting money into some industries. I never saw somebody complained and put tarrifs. It is just that US sucks in inovation. All inovation is coming from Asia at the moment. Bigger markets, developing countries. What US has to offer? A country when you visit it feels like 3rd world country.
I was with you all the way to where the FUD about EV's started about half way in.
Just trying to provide both sides of the argument! I don’t make any of my own conclusions on the matter. If those that support mass EV adoption ignore the genuine concerns others have, you realize that will only create more friction right? We all agree ICE vehicles are not the future but how we get to a better alternative requires a lot of work and challenges ahead. To think it’s already perfect is simply ignorant. Same goes the other way. If you don’t support EVs and ignore those that support it, perhaps it’s because you don’t understand the benefits or perhaps it’s because they are missing something important. We all want a more sustainable, greener earth but how we get to that end goal is up to debate.
@@RaisedMedia Repeating lies of FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) is not "providing both sides". Truth matters and there are a lot of corporate interests who will lose money with EVs and a greener earth.
Power corrupts motives. Having too much money corrupts basic reasoning.
EVs are already, by far, the best vehicle type for daily commuting.
Our EV costs about 1/4 what we used to pay with our hybrid. This is largely because we charge at home when prices are less than $0.08/kWh, but most people in North America can also sign up for similarly priced demand based electricity pricing and program their EV to take advantage of it.
I own 2 Tesla Model Y's and love them! No question, the best cars I've ever owned but, I despise the neo-fascist Elon Musk, and the Cybertruck and cybercab are ugly jokes! Tesla board needs to fire Musk, he's dragging the company down, and hire a sane, level-headed CEO and redesign the Cybertruck, and leave Musk to his money-losing X.
Interesting that after watching this during my morning coffee, I see an article in WaPo about the NHTSA investigating self-almost-driving Tesla crashes. Very interesting.
I own two electric vehicles and I can tell you now, the Tesla is much better value for money. It’s a better car, a better network.
I bought a Chevy EV and it's been a solid car for me. Rented a Tesla on vacation recently, and I heartily hated it. 😤
his move on twitter was the beginning of the end.
No, his pedo comment was....
The end of the beginning*
Yes, liberals love free speech, as long it is only their own free speech.
Quite a lot of unchecked BS here. Tesla Model 4? Come on!
Charging prices in Europe are half of petrol (unsure of U.S.)
Tesla Autopilot beta is still in the hands of the driver to take control. Says it in the manual. You are basicly watching a learner driver.
This Demuro guy also seems to only know half of what he is saying.
And there are plenty of charging stations in Europe! Norway is infact leading with more electric than petrol, and new sales are 90% electric now.
Bog-all chargers in the UK. If you can't charge at home, and do long journeys, especially to the rural areas, you're f'd. Small commutes if you have home charging, okay. Otherwise, forget it. And that's from someone who had been quite keen to have one, but not any more.
@@alisonwilson9749 ahem, I have done trips all through europe and stayed in many hotels with charging available.
I've been to Bournemouth, Cornwall, London, Köln, Rome, Praque, Bratislava, Gyula (East Hungary), Pula, Ljubljana.
How was I able to do that? Ah yes, Tesla Superchargers, destination chargers, Hotel chargers and IONITY.
I can literally plug the car in anywhere I have a plug of any type using the Juice Booster.
A very well made film -- intelligent! 👍
Thank you Brad!
The Model Y and Model 3 are in the top 6 of best selling cars in America, beating out the likes of the Civic and the Accord, competing against SUVs and trucks. What an absurd statement. Tesla Model 3 is like the iPhone of EVs. The default choice for most new buyers is always the Model 3 (NOT ALL new buyers, but most).
This was so well written. Really good with the nuance.
Thank you so much! Your comment is so nice :)
Nobody wants a Tesla, really? Is that why the model Y remains the best selling car in the world? Not the best selling EV, but the best selling car, period. Also soon to pass the Toyota RAV4 as the best selling car in the United States. Is that also why the Tesla Cybertruck is the best selling electric truck, selling more units than Ford, GM and Rivian combined. Yep, nobody wants a Tesla anymore, you are right.🙄
He should be on the first Rocket 🚀 to Mars!
And stay there...😂😂😂😂😂
when he gets there
they will say sorry we got the fuel load wrong
you will have to stay there till your company builds another rocket to come and get you
Garbage in, garbage out. No joke.
Nice work, this was well done.
Thank you so much!
Excellent presentation. Well articulated, and mostly balanced
@@razorworks111 appreciate it. I tried my best to be balanced as possible. The title/thumbnail is admittedly negative but the video is meant to challenge the idea that “nobody wants a Tesla” while also discussing why that idea has become popular in the news as of late
Tesla regardless of what you think of Elon, will DOMIN8!!!
Tesla has done literally nothing to reaching a ‘cleaner earth’
Profit is the reward for taking risks. That is why Tesla is more profitable, and more popular, than any other U.S. EV maker. Cox Auto rates the three best selling EVs in the U.S. for Q3 2024 as 1. The Tesla Model Y (world's best selling auto in any category), 2. The Tesla Model 3, and 3, the Tesla Cybertruck. So much for, "Nobody Wants a Tesla Anymore."
1: All cars from all manufacturers are piling up. 2: My Tesla is 3 years old and has great build quality... better than the Jag I used to have. But Elon is becoming a really stupid dork. I salute the staff of Tesla and SpaceX they are doing great work... not the CEO. Other than that until the infrastructure works with one universal app and payment system. Currently having multiple apps is really stupid. Anyway I find my Tesla works great and is good for long distances because of the Tesla charging network.
“Better than a Jag” is a pretty low quality standard.
Tesla have some issues with their cars, but these could be solved (not sure about self driving). The problems with Elon though are just too much for the company. Sadly he is already destroying it and we can only watch from a distance.
Other manufacturers are already starting to make really good EVs and not just the Chinese. EVs are here to stay and will replace ICE cars.
@@jaex9617 indeed doesn't cost as much either... better than the BMW, Audi, and Range Rover we had as well. Tesla = No servicing in 3 years, 0 faults. Seem pretty good to me.
@@julianfoot8748how many sets of tires?
Both companies are rubish.
In my humble opinion, I give Tesla credit for getting the all started “again”. I know they had electric cars back in the 1920s, maybe even 1800s But he help re-introduced them, kinda like Steve Jobs did tablets computers, with the iPad. While I don’t like Tesla cars, every time I get in one, I’m always noticing something that’s missing in the poor build quality. I think Tesla strength is in their charging infrastructure, and even their software, and maybe even battery manufacturing. In the future, I think that might be their bread and butter, which they can leverage to other companies.
Obviously, Legacy car companies built better cars as far as materials and manufacturing. If most people had the same software, but in a Lincoln, they would prefer the Lincoln’s comfort and build quality over a Tesla. Tesla built everything themselves from the buttons to the seats, and they’re fairly new at it, so naturally they’re not going to be that good, because there’s a learning curve.
I personally would not buy an electric car, unless it took gas! Like the Chevy volt (discontinue), Toyota Prius or Prius prime, Ford C max Etc. The plug-in EV, is a huge miss opportunity for the American market, people would feel more comfortable with the option of having gas. You have to think of it as a transitional vehicle, whereby people drive it and say to themselves (after charging at home and going to work and charging at work, etc.) I think I can do an electric vehicle with the way that I drive.
Would YOU buy a car from a Fascist? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Being right of centre isn't fascism lmao. You sound radicalized. Elon voted democrat until recently.
@@fubar12345 Musk is "right of center?" HAHAHA! I'll bet you'd say that he not a racist either. How about Trump, is he just a bit "right of center" too? you ridiculous idiot.
But you are OK with buying a Chinese car? Or Chinese products? Or eating food grown with Russian fertilizer?
Ev charging in the UK is horrendous. We are a relatively small country and cannot get this right.
I manage very well thank you. Charging has improved enormously recently.
Tories left it to the market, so of course it's crap. One reason we bought a petrol when we replaced our car recently.
I find it weird that because of Tesla people conflate electric cars, self-driving cars, and connected cars.
Electric cars are generally connected cars because you need a computer to control the electric motor anyway, so you might as well stick an LTE radio on it and give the customer an app. But most cars sold nowadays are connected cars. My car runs on gasoline and I have an app on my phone that can unlock the doors and start the engine, surely if the gub'ment wants to turn off my car they can do it in the same way they could an electric one.
Tesla does not make any self-driving cars, they sell a Level 2 driver assistance cruise control system that they call "Full Self-Driving (supervised)", but the number of self-driving Teslas in the world is zero. Waymo and Cruise operate self-driving robotaxi networks using gasoline cars.
5:00 maybe because the FAA stops, for no reason, the launch of starship
I don't know. He had a big role in applefying the auto industry. Which is the furthest from being a good thing.
Because the US auto industry was in such great shape before he came along.
@@fubar12345 We've been very happy with our Fords, thank you very much.
Classic billionaire brain rot. Surround yourself with yes men and think you are a god.
I'm instinctively in favour of EV adoption but open to having my mind changed, if the driving habits of the american market mean more lifetime CO2 produced from an EV versus the gas equivalent especially if the gas CO2 can be offset/captured e.g. using biofuels and not diverting calories from human consumption in detrimental ways. EVs where it makes sense to EV. Any research on lifetime EV versus gas cars based on usage/market?
Great video, except for the Chinese section. Saying that the Chinese EV market is booming because of high demands without even mentioning that the China heavily subside the sector seem like a big oversight. Especially since you mention that Western countries demand for EV was mostly driven by government subsidies. China subsidise the EV market in even bigger proportion than any country in the world at the moment, which let the Chinese EV compagnies reach ridiculously low price and boost demand. This flood the market tactic with unsustainable price to gain total market dominance is the reason why countries are putting tariffs. And just to be clear, every country does subsidise some of their local economic sector too. The level of support is what make these policies acceptable or not. Of course what represent an acceptable level and what is ''fair'' also varies a lot depending on your economics views, but China is clearly on the abusing side with their policies on EV right now. Nonobstant that section, great work on approaching a tough divisive subject like Elon/Tesla/EV with nuance and many counterpoints!
Totally fair criticism. Appreciate you taking the time to write this. You are right that I should have included more details about Chinese subsidies but I had left it out to keep the focus on infrastructural differences. Felt like the video could have been twice as long if I opened up that can of worms.
@devils666jf: My thoughts exactly, and that’s without even talking about how China is artificially keeping its currency at a low exchange rate, underpays its employees, and unabashedly destroys the environment with no regard whatsoever for its citizens and future, all to undercut prices on international markets and be competitive in an attempt to flood other markets with their products.
The reason why other countries are putting tariffs is cause their car industry sucks.
I was planning on a new model S but I will be looking at the new Lucid or BMW I4. This choice is 100 percent due to elon.
My Tesla saved my life 2 times this week. Car crossed median and Tesla swerved before I could react. Could have been a head on. 2nd instance occurred when there was a metal cabinet in the middle of a 2 lane highway driving 60mph. I couldn’t see it because the reflection of the cabinet matched the road surface. My car slowed and swerved just before I noticed it. Truly Amazing vehicle. Nothing else compares. No other car would have done that.
I'm really glad the car saved you both times but realistically any of the dozens of other cars with semi-autonomous driving would have done the same thing.
There was glare on the road and you failed to slow down enough to drive safely? Suppose there had been a cyclist? teslas often fail to see them. They can even fail to see a 40-ton truck slap bang in front of the car for gods' sakes.
@@alisonwilson9749 typical DB comment from a non Tesla owner. Specific instances shared to recognize advancements in safety and someone’s got to hate, hate, hate.
Are oil company's paying you?
Of course!!! I’m an official member of the Exxon Mobil influencer team! They flew me down to watch them do an oil spill 😍.
US EV sales were up 10 percent in 2024. ICEV sales were down 3 percent. The only change is the rate of EV adoption. The future of personal transportation is still electric.
10% of jack $#!+ is still jack $#!+.
@@Zero4Champ That's true. But 10 percent of a little over a million is 1.2 million. And that ain't jack.
@@GeeDeeBird 10 percent of a million is 100,000. Toyota alone sold 11.2 million cars last year. Tesla has sold only 4,972,647 total since 2008.
@@Zero4Champ I guess you don't understand how numbers work. So, eliminating the math: Over 1.18 million EVs were sold in the US 2023 representing 7.6% of the car market compared to 5.9% of the market in 2022. As of the end of the third quarter of 2024, EV sales were up 10% over 2023 and ICEV sales were down 3% over last year. While the final numbers aren't out yet, Edmunds predicts EV sales will exceed 1.2 million units in 2024 and exceed 8% of all vehicle sales (not including plug in hybrids). The bottom line is, that your original statement was BS. EV adoption is not going to happen overnight, but you need to face reality. The future of personal transportation is electric. Quibbling about the math won't change that. I
@@GeeDeeBird I need to learn how to read numbers? No, buddy you need to learn numbers or English, maybe both. Here's your previous quote,
"That's true. But 10 percent of a little over a million is 1.2 million. And that ain't jack."
Read that and tell me how 10 percent of over a million is 1.2 million. That math is not mathing, as the kids say..
Second the adoption rate of EVs is incredibly slow. To the point that it's not going to make it. If billions in subsidies is not enough to convert at least 20 percent of buyers by this point, it's not happening. Most experts expect a market saturation level of 30 percent tops. Overall car sales are down and EV companies are dying left and right. Rivian is on the ropes. Stelantis is leaning heavily into EVs and they're about to go belly up. The only EV company doing well in America is Tesla, that's because of hype and a Cult of Personality. That cult is quickly losing members.
To be fair, it's not only Tesla that is having troubles, the whole western auto industry is doing bad, mainly because people are less optimistic about the future and are saving money and Chinese EVs dominating the market. They get government support and have less regulations so they can make their cars cheaper than their US or EU counterparts meanwhile here there are strict environmental protection and work regulations (I am not saying that I'm against them). The EU and the US are trying to push back but the future is not so bright. I am from a country where huge amounts of our GDP comes from assembling German cars, so if the German auto industry falls, so does our economy.
Electric cars are the definition of greenwashing, the batteries are highly toxic and can't be properly disposed of and their production is very polluting. The true green future is public transport but that's slightly more uncomfortable so I guess my grandchildren will be drinking battery acid infused water :D
Yep, not only is the demand for EVs down by the economic landscape has changed so many companies are deciding to refocus on prioritizing the cars that actually make them money haha. Great points!
I will be buying a Tesla, safest cars made, great for the environment best selling cars in the world, in spite of BS you are putting out.
Not safest for cyclists or pedestrians.
This video contains inaccuracies and omits facts.
I will be looking to other car manufacturers for my next EV.
Same. I hope the German luxury manufactured brands can create quality EV under $80k and replicate a national charging network.
Toyota is very honest and accountable with their fine products why look elsewhere?
Elon is the only reason I never considered investing in Tesla. Usually I am not where the HYPE is.
Us non Americans had no idea what 420 was slang for.
It’s a great car. Better than all the other brands
😂
@@dancermgl739 have you driven one? Try a car that has instant torque and can drive itself? And 1/4 fuel and the BIGGEST thing is no maintenance. Ice cars break everything.. fans belts oil transmission breaks ect.
He re-invented electric cars same as Steve Jobs re-invented mobile phones
They had the world's best selling car last year. They might have the world's best selling car again this year.
Ya this is super biase, without looking at the numbers. I do agree, Elon needs to just shut up.
😂 you wish kiddo! I am looking so much forward to my new Tesla mid next year 🤩
I don’t think you watched the entire video but that’s okay. Happy you are excited for your Tesla. Enjoy!!
Great video, But the final "we could have got a whole lot worse" is the dumbest thing of the day.
Lol I was just trying to bring some general positivity to a mostly negative outlook. Can’t win everyone’s heart I suppose.
Exactly. He's one of the biggest threat to America with all the disinformation and lies he spreads.
5:30 i mean its way more than 5x profit, isnt it? Youre likely talking about revenue? Im pretty sure the pay package is more than Tesla has EVER profited
Still selling a lot of cars lol
They aren't growing, which is a massive issue
They build cars that are too expensive
I'll buy an Aptera. One day, I might buy 2nd hand Tesla motors and EV-convert something to run on it, maybe.
Tesla quality has become wonderful My wife and I have 2 Model Ys. They've been perfect. .... And I guess you haven't heard that Tesla just had a record Q3? Including a record Q3 in China. Sales are are depressed a little because people are waiting for the new Model Y. I know 2 people who want a Model Y but won't buy because they're waiting for the new one. And in case you haven't noticed, Tesla's the only company making a profit on pure BEVs.
Growth is in reverse. The future will be really challenging for Tesla, who needs to export too. They look over priced in many markets. Tarrifs have a two way affect American exports too.
congrats?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's funny listening to Tesla bots lie. Tesla's profit margins have dropped every quarter since Q2 2022. Q2 2024 was the lowest profit margin for Tesla in 5 years. The only reason Tesla turns a profit is because they sell energy credits. It's over for Tesla 😂
@@Freerider93 didn't Musk buy Twitter with his cash, borrowed cash and Tesla stock?
@@Freerider93 Tesla energy credits only make up about 20% of Tesla's profits. They'd do just fine without them. And Tesla's the only car company making a profit on pure BEVs. Tesla profit margins have declined a little, but are still at a healthy level, better than most car companies. ......And Tesla has $30 billion in cash and virtually no debt. No car company has that kind of a balance sheet. .... I think you need to go look at the Tesla books before you post false and cherry-picked numbers.
Battery tech is getting much cheaper. EV manufacturers are offering cars now which are better and cheaper than their predecessors as a result. This results in higher levels of depreciation, and the early adopters, having been stung, may feel they wish to revert to more conventional cars because of this. The situation will be temporary, as battery-electric cars become better and cheaper than their ICE equivalents.
Yes, exactly!
3 most sold EVs in US, M3, MY and Cybertruck, cybertruck alone sold more than all other e-pickuptrucks combined.
But yes, no one wants Tesla...😅😅😅😅
How does this man only have 23k subscribers. Just 2 of his videos changed my view of the world.
I am speechless.
Haha what a compliment! Thank you. Maybe I’ll hit 25k one day :)
What are you smoking?? LOL I’m seeing Cybertrucks everywhere even my neighbor got one. There are more Teslas than ever before. This year is on course to reach the same car volume sale as last year. 1.8 million cars. Last year the Model Y was number 1 sold car in the world and this year it’s currently number 2 most sold car in the US right behind the RAV4 and it’s on track to beat it. Tesla energy business is also rocketing! You clearly haven’t done your homework and just emoting. SMH
Perhaps you don’t understand what slowing growth means…not saying they aren’t the top seller, in fact it’s mentioned numerous times in the video! Fyi, for Q3 2024 Tesla sales are up 4% from Q2 2024 but for the first and second quarters of 2024, Tesla reported drops in sales of 9% and 5%, respectively, the first time in the company’s history that it reported two consecutive quarters of declining sales. Even with the increased sales reported in Q3, its year-to-to-date deliveries of 1.3 million vehicles is down 2% from a year ago.
@@RaisedMedia sure but look at the entire auto industry and see how everyone else is doing this year. VW is looking to shut down plants in Europe for the first time ever. So sure YTD sales may be down but Tesla is still doing quite well relative to all other car markers this year… And time will tell how demand is moving forward.
The only quarters Tesla showed a profit were the ones where they collected large sums of Corporate Welfare.
His only important major company is SpaceX, which due to its national security
impact should be acquired or nationalized and run by a grown up. He has done great and amazing things but has clearly lost the plot.
You've lost the plot if you think nationalizing SpaceX would improve it. There's already a nationalized space organization, it's called NASA, and they are experts in wasting money. SLS is a massive failure.
This is one banger of a video. 2.8k views is a shame!
Appreciate it!!! In fairness, if I got 2.8k people in one place listening to me for 15 minutes irl that would be crazy. I’ll take it!
Tesla is steadily losing markete share to legacy automakers, and their market share is now less than 50%. People are discovering that non-Tesla cars have better build quality better reliability, are easier to repair, and often are cheaper, more comfortable, and more fun.
With his support for Trumpf, he goes diametral against the buyers of Tesla cars.
The Chinese make fake videos of teslas Not performing well Because BYD is a competition and you know how ruthless China is
Yep, they also use thousands of bots to post negative comments about Tesla. It's a very low cost way of increasing market share through reputational damage.
When it comes to self driving electric vehicles, no one comes close to Tesla. They are so astronomically far ahead in this regard. So i'm still buying a Tesla next year.
Interesting! Out of curiosity, may I ask why you place self driving as a priority for your decision making when it comes to buying a new car? I don’t disagree that Tesla is miles ahead of its competitors in that regard but they haven’t quite nailed FSD yet either. It’s a pretty cool feature but I’m surprised to hear you say it’s a key decision criteria. Most people seem to think it’s a neat value add but not a deal breaker either way.
@@RaisedMedia Tesla is not miles ahead of its competitors in self driving.
Looks at Waymo, it is some Real opérationnel robotaxi. Tesla is just ahead at trying to get it fonctionnal with only caméras
@@thomasfarin663 As of May 6, 2024, there are over 109,000 cities and towns in the United States. Waymo is available in only 4 of them.... On top of that it is not a vehicle that can can be purchased and owned by consumers. It is a taxi service that can drive in 4 pre-mapped cities.
So until the vehicles can actually be purchased and owned by consumers at a reasonable price and is available in more than .01% of a country it is far behind tesla.
@@McDonalds1 since tesla cannot do Real self driving cars it is not comparable yet
Just by saying "Run by a maniac that is despised by most people" you let your bias out of the closet. The whole thing reads like a shpeel from an envious Democrat. I will surely remember the name of this channel to avoid making the mistake of click in your bait again.