Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time Developers React to Speedrun

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @AnimeFanXVII
    @AnimeFanXVII 4 года назад +5696

    Give these developers a show because they are downright hilarious.

    • @Zombie_Scholar
      @Zombie_Scholar 4 года назад +186

      Right? Such chemistry

    • @KyokujiFGC
      @KyokujiFGC 4 года назад +272

      These guys sound like a blast to work with.
      You can tell they have a great company culture.

    • @quicklittlesnail1616
      @quicklittlesnail1616 4 года назад +116

      I love how chill they are, the speedrunner is breaking the game and they are just laughing at it

    • @bandicootsmwcentral2950
      @bandicootsmwcentral2950 4 года назад +34

      as a SMW rom hack creator I also fall in laughts when I see players finding ways to break my levels designs.
      It just blows my mind to see new ways on how people play my games, I usually react like : "Wow, i never expected this guy to do this"

    • @Need_RnR
      @Need_RnR 3 года назад +6

      A Crash *Bandicoot* game - should *not* - be broken: this, *ridiculous....*
      "It's a *CLEAR* sign... of a LACK of *Quality* control -"
      design, and care...
      When the devs *don't* CATCH: something like these "tricks" and glitches... ( *Flying up into the air,* practically **on a whim** - with powerups... Skipping half a level, by going over it.. or *underneath* it. )
      Etc... in a Crash: "BANDICOOT" game...?
      They make the *game* feel so:
      *_Unbelievably_* cheap.

  • @miaspaghetti
    @miaspaghetti 4 года назад +1593

    Other devs: “oh that guy’s cool!”
    Doom Eternal devs: “Would be cooler the normal way”
    Crash 4 devs: “ *Stop it. Get some help.* “

    • @annonymous7286
      @annonymous7286 4 года назад +10

      😂 🏆👌

    • @kaen4299
      @kaen4299 3 года назад +151

      Nah Doom Eternal devs were chill. More like : ''Do they want us to fix that?''

    • @hanjohanjo3495
      @hanjohanjo3495 3 года назад +72

      Shadow of the tomb raider's Devs : roast their own game

    • @jmp01a24
      @jmp01a24 3 года назад +10

      @@kaen4299 They at least KNOW its a broken game as is, so they offer to fix their mess.

    • @kaen4299
      @kaen4299 3 года назад +61

      @@jmp01a24 It's far from broken, they need to search for hours to find those bugs and loop holes. You'll never find those if you play like a normal human being.

  • @ATPokemon
    @ATPokemon 4 года назад +651

    "Lets take score on which developer's level's killed him the most" *HA!*

  • @fatalerror---
    @fatalerror--- 4 года назад +3284

    Dev- " I dunno if you guys realize he's talking about marvel while shredding this level." Just hilarious

    • @Amory-wd3ws
      @Amory-wd3ws 4 года назад +20

      Time stamp?

    • @fatalerror---
      @fatalerror--- 4 года назад +62

      @@Amory-wd3ws 10:40 start listening there. It's few moments after.

    • @Bombtrack411
      @Bombtrack411 4 года назад +145

      'if you're gonna make us look bad at least give us your full attention' lol

    • @kayumust
      @kayumust 4 года назад +13

      he dunked on them devs especcially steve

    • @jeffs1106
      @jeffs1106 3 года назад +51

      "he's like learning another language while he destroys our game" AWESOME! LMFAO.

  • @ursulakulikova1002
    @ursulakulikova1002 4 года назад +2292

    I think this is my favourite react so far, was smiling the whole time. the point system was so funny

  • @TheCube67548
    @TheCube67548 4 года назад +772

    This is exactly what I wanted the Devs of Crash too be, chill guys just having a laugh together

  • @leaf8554
    @leaf8554 3 года назад +262

    47:07
    “Do we think there’s any exploits or skips he’ll be doing?”
    “YOU MEAN LIKE THAT ONE?!”
    Lmao

  • @mamba2468
    @mamba2468 4 года назад +1540

    Speedrunner: *Dies*
    Me: "You see he's just a man"

    • @Mediados
      @Mediados 4 года назад +35

      Aaaaah Matrix 2 references are scarce

    • @nathanlunsford7110
      @nathanlunsford7110 4 года назад +14

      I understood that reference

    • @pierremalfi
      @pierremalfi 3 года назад +5

      @@Mediados More Rocky 4 for me ;)

    • @The94Venom
      @The94Venom 3 года назад +7

      It is time to for the gaming community to see their hero for what he truly is. A man, just a man. Devoid of hope, betrayed by his games, crippled by fear

  • @Revvylo
    @Revvylo 4 года назад +3400

    From the perspective of a speedrunner this video just reinforces to me that there's nobody better suited to leading the Crash franchise than Toys for Bob.

    • @Mikethenight258
      @Mikethenight258 4 года назад +7

      ,,

    • @Yamaneko81
      @Yamaneko81 4 года назад +238

      just reduce the amount of offcamera crates

    • @MSCLeap75
      @MSCLeap75 4 года назад +69

      Debatable cause we have yet seen what Vicarious Visions could do in making a new adventure Crash game on the big screen. Was pretty surprised that they weren't in charge of making CB4.

    • @PieroMinayaRojas
      @PieroMinayaRojas 4 года назад +42

      @@Yamaneko81 true, although I'm ok with "secret" paths like in Crash 2

    • @Carahan
      @Carahan 4 года назад +13

      Toys for Bob founders are game industry greats. If only they would make a new Star Control game.

  • @FandangosBR
    @FandangosBR 4 года назад +577

    Everytime he takes a shortcut
    Devs: ooooh that was my fault

  • @EdwinH
    @EdwinH 4 года назад +2693

    Dev react is amazing!

  • @incokiller7202
    @incokiller7202 4 года назад +188

    I love the support Devs give to these speed runners it’s great to see them appreciate the certain techniques speed runners use to beat their game

  • @Nifava
    @Nifava 4 года назад +685

    Devs always pretend to feel so humiliated by the speedruners when it really is the ultimate way of showing respect to them. It means someone loved your game enough to spend A LOT of hours mastering it.

    • @damp2269
      @damp2269 4 года назад +51

      is got to be bittersweet, they put in the time, but it was spend finding flaws on their work.

    • @tekkenchampion832
      @tekkenchampion832 4 года назад +60

      @@damp2269 Some argue that art, once released to the public eye or consumption, isn't your art anymore. It is essentially free to be reinterpreted, reinvented, destroyed, rebuilt, etc. Speedrunners break down a game without tons of hours of dedicated gameplay, using exploits and glitches. It's a different type of respect, a type of collaboration that turns a game into a canvas, although through identifying the quirks and flaws that a developer may of left in the game intentionally or not. Sometimes speedruns don't use glitches at all!

    • @rajasnagpurkar
      @rajasnagpurkar 2 года назад

      well put

    • @rajasnagpurkar
      @rajasnagpurkar 2 года назад

      @@tekkenchampion832 well put

    • @rajasnagpurkar
      @rajasnagpurkar 2 года назад +1

      @@damp2269 more like creating a new game from the base game, of pushing the game to its limit to beat or complete it quickly

  • @Talking-Monkey
    @Talking-Monkey 4 года назад +230

    Love this series. When the Devs laugh and accept that these things are going to happen , it makes it so great.

  • @barbicoh
    @barbicoh 4 года назад +399

    Damn these developers are so fun and you can see how passionate they are for the game knowing the ins and outs of it to every detail

    • @Need_RnR
      @Need_RnR 3 года назад +7

      What did the devs *say:*
      to lead you: to that notion...?
      lol

    • @creativebenzin
      @creativebenzin 6 месяцев назад

      You didnt see the vídeo?

  • @lychos-games
    @lychos-games 4 года назад +741

    Devs: "Next time it'll be tubes...ALL TUBES, THEY WON'T GET OUT!"
    Amnesia - The Dark Descent, nothing but corridors: "...they got out. ;-; "

  • @marcuslopez2190
    @marcuslopez2190 4 года назад +906

    Lol the devs getting happy when he dies
    “Fly to close to the sun” lol

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 4 года назад +4

      they seem particularly butthurt as a dev when someone speedruns their game.

    • @Matt-nd1li
      @Matt-nd1li 4 года назад +45

      @@isturbo1984 of course they're butthurt, you would to if someone used a bug or glitch in your game.

    • @Koi_Swirl
      @Koi_Swirl 4 года назад +1

      @@isturbo1984 "butt hurt" he isn't even playing the game properly. Skipping everything and using glitches to get ahead. Speedruns needs more strict rules.

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 4 года назад +73

      @@Koi_Swirl whats your point? how many times has he beaten the game properly before getting to this point do you think? you dont just fire up the game and do this you first try.

    • @MOH10492
      @MOH10492 4 года назад +87

      @@Koi_Swirl speedruns dont need strict rules. The whole point is to beat the game as quick as possible. “Stricter rules” lmfao

  • @missmeeper
    @missmeeper 4 года назад +1201

    Hey devs! As someone who breaks out of bounds in games as a hobby, Yes we run into walls and corners and other objects and assets. We find something that works funny and we keep poking at it until it breaks. There's always this amazing feeling of discovery when you find a seem for a world and shove yourself through it :)

    • @fala_hpy5507
      @fala_hpy5507 4 года назад +132

      You know, I'm something of a scientist myself...

    • @guiorgy
      @guiorgy 4 года назад +158

      Is that how children are born?

    • @demonheim7967
      @demonheim7967 4 года назад +37

      @@guiorgy this comment.

    • @stonksagent9040
      @stonksagent9040 4 года назад +17

      @@guiorgy *yesn’t*

    • @wowdevon1893
      @wowdevon1893 4 года назад +4

      @@fala_hpy5507 spiderman memes are always so funny

  • @Pendoza84
    @Pendoza84 4 года назад +521

    I just love the commentary of these guys.

  • @wolfyklassen
    @wolfyklassen 4 года назад +172

    What a surprise, a bunch of game devs turned what they were doing into a game.

  • @ozhs2
    @ozhs2 4 года назад +206

    this has honestly got to be one of the best devs reacts I've ever seen, these devs are delightful!

  • @ReFL18
    @ReFL18 4 года назад +162

    25:00
    Dev: There's come the gator. there's come the gator . aaaaahhhhhh *dev sad noise*

    • @Narusasu98
      @Narusasu98 4 года назад +7

      Loved that part lul

  • @idunnostudios5545
    @idunnostudios5545 4 года назад +308

    Be honest who would watch a youtube channel with these devs and it's like game grumps or oney plays

  • @saudivgc
    @saudivgc 4 года назад +453

    Do devs go "YES! TAKE THAT!" every time the speedrunner fails? I'm sure devs cheer the enemies in the game against the speedrunner LMAO

    • @DrGandW
      @DrGandW 4 года назад +103

      These guys placed the enemies so it’s like seeing their children get a win

    • @dantrav1927
      @dantrav1927 4 года назад +21

      To the devs the speedrunner is the enemy .... hehehe

  • @DrGandW
    @DrGandW 4 года назад +109

    I wish it wasn’t edited I just want more time with these guys

  • @marcusjones6064
    @marcusjones6064 4 года назад +166

    30:14 "We should get a Neo Cortex Christmas album"
    DO IT!!

  • @TheUltimateRare
    @TheUltimateRare 4 года назад +78

    "they found the shortcut we put in" Lmao

  • @Miguelsbigbro
    @Miguelsbigbro 4 года назад +165

    "Ah yes, Louise. Named after [REDACTED]"

  • @factandsuspicionpodcast2727
    @factandsuspicionpodcast2727 2 года назад +47

    These guys were a lot of fun. It's clear they love their work.

  • @MagMagik_
    @MagMagik_ 4 года назад +94

    Respect to the developers, the game look beautiful!

  • @SocietyUnplugged
    @SocietyUnplugged 2 года назад +6

    48:58 - 49:08 There is no better compliment than devs' first reaction is "That was a clean run", "Thaaat was magnificent", "That's incredible", "That's reeeeally incredible", "Nicely done" and "Waaaauw".

  • @pinoyguy75
    @pinoyguy75 4 года назад +23

    The dead silence like 40 minutes in killed me. You could tell how shocked and dismayed they were

  • @toto_feather8732
    @toto_feather8732 4 года назад +46

    I love it when devs are getting depressed over all the work the speedrunners are skipping through, BUT ALSO appreciating the time and effort they put in to make this happen... ^^

  • @AJ10virgo
    @AJ10virgo Год назад +8

    The flashback tapes in Crash 4 are absolutely genius and are a true gaming hidden gem, and, very difficult to beat, absolutely amazing job by the devs

  • @TheWulver
    @TheWulver 4 года назад +24

    This gotta be one of my favorite speed run reacts, the devs are just having a blast

  • @MrFabritzzio
    @MrFabritzzio 3 года назад +89

    Milestones of the devs having their hearts crushed:
    16:14
    19:15
    24:45
    25:19
    38:20
    41:28

  • @smidge742
    @smidge742 4 года назад +181

    The Devs enjoy it when a speed runner fails on their levels.
    My type of people.

  • @GentlemanJackabee
    @GentlemanJackabee 3 года назад +20

    This is one of the best "Devs React" I've seen!
    They're absolutely hilarious! The scoring system too! XD

  • @Raw_SR
    @Raw_SR Год назад +4

    You can tell these devs really enjoy their jobs and that usually is also indictive of the company atmosphere and work environment so that's really awesome. Just the boys making games together kind of vibes. Im a fan of toys for bob now

  • @bhuwin6186
    @bhuwin6186 4 года назад +24

    41:25 "working as intended", miyazaki meme lives on in dev community LMAO

  • @nooby165
    @nooby165 4 года назад +35

    I love how this video have probably helped Toys for Bob since a lot of us will probably buy their games past present future and become loyal customers because of this video alone!

  • @bryanmay4070
    @bryanmay4070 4 года назад +20

    I haven't seen anyone specifically mention, but I just love how these game devs made a game of someone breaking their game lol

  • @Waffletigercat
    @Waffletigercat 4 года назад +97

    These devs have such a great sense of humor.

  • @xazz
    @xazz 4 года назад +13

    I love that they start out so jovial and as time goes on they get more and more depressed while also being very impressed

  • @harshmondal7933
    @harshmondal7933 3 года назад +22

    "They need no triple spin, they got all the spins they need..." Had me rolling

  • @jpconley5618
    @jpconley5618 4 года назад +11

    This dev team was made for these types of videos. So entertaining hearing them riff together.

  • @saetia777
    @saetia777 3 года назад +7

    These Devs made this so entertaining I actually watched all of it. Glad I bought this game. Support the developers. 10/10 would recommend

  • @cloudvsdeath
    @cloudvsdeath 4 года назад +11

    When devs are cool like this and realize that Therese more than one way to play a game (casual, speedruner, competitive etc) and kind of cater to each crowd all in one game. It adds to value of the game and replay ability.

  • @adeptusmedicus
    @adeptusmedicus 4 года назад +19

    Nice of the devs to model their point system on "Whose line is it anyway?"

  • @GreenDinoRanger
    @GreenDinoRanger 4 года назад +93

    Don't mind me. I'm just taking notes for the platinum relics.

    • @fahadsaad750
      @fahadsaad750 4 года назад +7

      Or the dev relic

    • @drumo2273
      @drumo2273 4 года назад +5

      @@fahadsaad750 *Hahahahahahahahaha!*
      ...Oh you're serious.

  • @UrAvgMonkey
    @UrAvgMonkey 4 года назад +6

    Ive been watching a lot of these dev reacts and developers just seem like the most chillest people

  • @imstillagamer0047
    @imstillagamer0047 4 года назад +410

    one min silence for those developers who spent years to make this game!

    • @loirigudo
      @loirigudo 4 года назад +42

      They are probably proud that someone puts this much time and effort into their game, besides its not like their work is not being apreciated, one in a million people play it like this, every single other person is enjoying the game the way its supposed to be enjoyed, so...

    • @RikoKSB
      @RikoKSB 4 года назад +68

      It’s also not like I didn’t play and enjoy the game casually first either. :P

    • @Satin.B
      @Satin.B 4 года назад +12

      @@RikoKSB bro your a legend keep up the speedruns

    • @isturbo1984
      @isturbo1984 4 года назад +1

      @@loirigudo doesnt sound like it. TFB are some of the worst when it comes to the speedrunning community.

    • @tech6hutch
      @tech6hutch 4 года назад

      @@isturbo1984 why do you say that?

  • @gtvideos6481
    @gtvideos6481 3 года назад +19

    14:16 we'll never know why she's named louise

  • @marsvin55
    @marsvin55 4 года назад +33

    I just love when devs react to speedruns!

  • @JoeNguyen9x
    @JoeNguyen9x 4 года назад +90

    Devs: game can be finished in 25 hours including other secrets.
    This dude: 20 mins take it or leave it

    • @annonymous7286
      @annonymous7286 4 года назад

      Hahaha I love when I can just see memes 😂

  • @KitsuyuutsuR
    @KitsuyuutsuR 4 года назад +12

    This was so fun to watch! I’ve watched my son play this and I won’t even attempt it because it looks so hard. Seeing this guy break the game? That was amazing!

  • @bro_db7969
    @bro_db7969 4 года назад +9

    The most entertaining Dev team thus far. Loved listening to these guys!

  • @stevenwood433
    @stevenwood433 4 года назад +75

    This is literally the only thing I enjoy watching from IGN

  • @gqn2
    @gqn2 4 года назад +35

    Toys For Bob: We want to make Crash 4 a huge world.
    Speedrunners: 24:58

  • @will2998
    @will2998 4 года назад +77

    Imagine if the dev TRIES to speedrun the game (or just do specific trick)

    • @Rexaura888
      @Rexaura888 4 года назад +10

      We don’t have to imagine; that’s what the Purple/TFB Relics/times are for.

  • @pokeboi984
    @pokeboi984 3 года назад +11

    4:23 Me, an arrested development fan: "You let him go in the sun!?!?"

  • @equlix7760
    @equlix7760 4 года назад +23

    39:05 he described it perfectly.

  • @Evergarden7
    @Evergarden7 4 года назад +50

    Don't worry dev, we still enjoying playing crash bandicoot

  • @anasshahid224
    @anasshahid224 10 месяцев назад +4

    Crash 4 is so much fun 🙌😊 Loved the developers reactions, they were enjoying it big time!

  • @SkyeBerryJam
    @SkyeBerryJam 4 года назад +15

    They should actually be really proud that their level design FEELS like it was made with speedrunning in mind without them indmtending it

  • @Fongletto
    @Fongletto 4 года назад +8

    This is my favourite devs react. The banter among the devs was great.

  • @redwings13400
    @redwings13400 3 года назад +3

    This video needs a ticker at the bottom that tracks everyone's points in real time. Its amazing.

  • @berkcantimsah9216
    @berkcantimsah9216 3 года назад +13

    13:51 that wheeze is golden

  • @Infectd
    @Infectd 4 года назад +5

    These devs should be proud. Most Speed runs of games are like sub 10 or even up to 30 mins tops. At least this one banked a nice hour plus. =) I will say the devs in this video were some of the most entertaining from this series.

  • @SillyDean
    @SillyDean 4 года назад +4

    With these guys its more like Devs vs Speedrunners instead of reacting to them. Enjoyed it very much!!

  • @nutsandbolts1264
    @nutsandbolts1264 4 года назад +20

    I love the developers! They're not mad that they use shortcuts, instead they just laugh and "Wow" with the audience

  • @matthewdaub
    @matthewdaub 3 года назад +19

    Can we get another episode of these devs reacting to another speedrun? They are hilarious

  • @enjoyyourlifewhileyoucan
    @enjoyyourlifewhileyoucan 3 года назад +4

    Awesome run. Had fun watching this and listening commentaries. Thanx!

  • @Kian02
    @Kian02 4 года назад +2

    Honestly this is the best format on this channel and one of the best on yt probably.

  • @piplup10203854
    @piplup10203854 4 года назад +79

    Who's the developer that said he was learning a foreign language when playing, that was hilarious and I agree lol its like he is sitting on the porch having a cup of tea just relaxing lol

    • @GrZtv
      @GrZtv 3 года назад +2

      Whats so funny about this is the runner was actually shitting on the franchise, but all the devs just missed it

    • @piplup10203854
      @piplup10203854 3 года назад

      @@GrZtv Oh no way! That's pretty funny lol

  • @chrisbagshaw5676
    @chrisbagshaw5676 4 года назад +55

    Crash was the only thing that kept 2020 from sending the world into complete chaos

  • @keselekbakiak
    @keselekbakiak 2 года назад +4

    They have the best reaction so far. These devs could make their own podcast

  • @ToirSimps
    @ToirSimps 4 года назад +17

    30:48 speed runners react to devs playing the game
    yes please

  • @Ben_R4mZ
    @Ben_R4mZ 4 года назад +5

    Best Devs.
    Literally keeping score of who caused the deaths.
    all very laid back and clearly enjoying themselves.

  • @lookiepookie8
    @lookiepookie8 4 года назад +7

    "Why even bother slowing down time when you're running so fast." HA!

  • @finalfrostfall670
    @finalfrostfall670 3 года назад +9

    I love how the devs made the game...
    the speedrunner broke the game...
    and then the devs made a point system for how many times the speed runner broke the game...
    and then he also breaks the point system while breaking the devs...

  • @themchannel853
    @themchannel853 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is the best reaction from devs I've seen yet, the toys for bob team seem like some real cool guys.

  • @sefatsilverlake3816
    @sefatsilverlake3816 4 года назад +8

    Speedrunning community goes hand in hand with dataminers and people knowledgeable in programming, so they kind of know what to look for.
    I loved this react, specially the fun facts about the maps and lore, the "Schmeargle" creature was hilarious.

  • @zhaumbie
    @zhaumbie 6 месяцев назад +1

    42:50 “This *points system* was a BAD IDEA!”
    [Hysterical laughter]
    “Whose idea *was* this?”
    “I’m SORRY!”

  • @TroboTicTac
    @TroboTicTac 4 года назад +9

    2:27 funny thing is, triple spin is actually slower mostly

  • @Appletank8
    @Appletank8 4 года назад +44

    desperately shouting "TOTALLY INTENTIONAL"

  • @matthewdaub
    @matthewdaub 2 года назад +4

    The chat just shits on the game the entire time. It's a shame because you can see how passionate the devs were about it.

  • @opl500
    @opl500 4 года назад +28

    Lol, the devs are turning their game design into a game itself.

  • @BrownCookieBoy
    @BrownCookieBoy 4 года назад +15

    Damn, streamers chat be talking smack about the game infront of the devs

  •  4 года назад +1

    That part of watching speed runs always gets me too, when people are pulling off the craziest of moves, and just casually holding a conversation with the chat. This is a great series, since I've always wondered how Devs feel about speed running. I know a lot of Indie devs create their games to be speed ran(?).

  • @ShadwSonic
    @ShadwSonic 4 года назад +3

    In relation to Ika-Ika shenanigans, I found a softlock... in Shipping Error (and the level it's tied to), once you get to the first Ika-Ika, it is possible to use it to go _backwards_ out of the tube. The mask doesn't despawn, and if you make it out entirely, you can get stuck above the level, with a Restart being your only remedy. Normally this wouldn't be considered "casual play", but considering Crash Landed has a Hidden Gem hidden in pretty much the same manner... well, how could I _not_ check that?

  • @muhdasyraf5243
    @muhdasyraf5243 3 года назад +2

    2:29 Devs impressed by body slam technique
    38:22 Devs impressed by exploit using Ika-Ika

  • @edricsantos5051
    @edricsantos5051 4 года назад +4

    Ive watch this 5x already and it is still the best so far of the devs react

  • @gerardoantoniogv
    @gerardoantoniogv 4 года назад +1

    On 18:45 you can clearly see what you get when a Crash Bandicoot game is NOT generated as the player progresses through the level...

  • @joowalll2455
    @joowalll2455 4 года назад +3

    I love how the crash team is just a bunch of dudes being guys chilling and very down to earth

  • @invaderjay
    @invaderjay 4 года назад +12

    Lesson: Playtest Playtest Playtest, and then hire Speedrunners to break your game, repeat, then release

  • @emmanuellmiqueletti7029
    @emmanuellmiqueletti7029 3 года назад +5

    thoses gamer devs looks so happy among them. KInda makes you turn into a gamer development.

  • @jwyatt
    @jwyatt 4 месяца назад +1

    There are two types of developers.
    Developer 1: Yo that's so cool!
    Developer 2: *groans in agony*

  • @xddBunnings
    @xddBunnings 3 года назад +5

    So entertaining to watch these devs. So wholesome, makes me think how human developers can be.

  • @johnfarner5718
    @johnfarner5718 Год назад +2

    Finally, a dev reaction vid that shows some decent reactions. The devs really enjoying their game being broken is terribly satisfying.