notice they used the pistol grip levers in the tower, conrail had the reg upper lever side ways type, but both worked very well in lue of the all computer systems of today and they break down very often, 1 lighting storm and many problems arise, that old stuff worked a lot better in any weather condition, that stuff was made to last for 200 yrs and more.
we have a problem here with the editing. how many people saw the scl/ln family lines box car? family lines painting did appear until 1978. yet we have pure PC. CR began in 1976, so there should have been some CRd locos and equipment.
Surely it's my age. But I really enjoyed this film. Oops I mean video. I like movies that explain things, and this one was alright. But what do they do about snow and ice in the rail switches? How do they thaw a frozen coupler? I enjoyed seeing the cabooses too
In my area at least switches have propane powered heaters. If a RR doesn't have those one of the ways they would thaw them was with rope soaked in diesel. They would lay that down next to the rails then light it.
Wow, kids today prob think of typewriters, and key-punch machines like we older folks do about an abacus. But hey, they did the job just fine, usually, in their day. Just, not quite as fast.
12:40 can anyone tell me more about this engine? it says it runs on a third rail but it looks like any other F-unit. Intriguing! edit: maybe a EMD FL9? But why change it out if it's dual-mode?
12:30 "At this point in the route, the diesels of all long distance trains are removed and replaced by engines that operate off the third rail", he said as an engineer climbs aboard an idling diesel locomotive and notches up the engine...
If Amtrak was more affordable to ride, I would prefer that as a mode of travel over flying because of the different scenic routes that most of us never see from the city we are surrounded by and the roads that are always packed
at the beggining of the video i didnt know they kept levers detached and carried around by engineers..makes perfect sense..do you know if they do this today?
This video is well done, though a bit dated. I think Conrail did a better job than NS or CSX, though this may be my opinion? Also, the meeting point was Pomontory NOT Promontory Point!
Are crews still allowed to "kick" cars into a siding? I'm talking about uncoupling a car while it is moving, and then stopping the engine. That happens at least twice in this film. Also guys keep jumping off moving trains, even where they are in the front of the train and are one false move from being run over.
That would probably depend on the individual company but yes, crews still kick cars today. There's a video on YT of NS crews doing this within the past year.
Im a conductor for BNSF and we can kick cars or drop cars at certain yards where this action is specifically approved in the timetable or SSI (System Special Instructions) However, getting on or off moving equipment is no longer allowed except in a handful of coal mines where coal trains are moving at a speed of 1mph or less with special speed governor equipment.
@Sean Embry: Just what we need, more laws, esp. at the federal level! Taxes and police powers aren't already high enough? Local cops and the RRs can handle their own priorities, thanks. Besides, as a former railroader, I found many of the tags funny and even beautiful. Yes, there's a safety issue, that's why the RR police watch the more dangerous areas.
@@KutWrite Taxes? I guess you have no idea how much we (a city out west) spend on graffiti removal. We have 4 people, 2 mobile paint trucks, 2 people and two truck mounted pressure washers. 6 full time workers, 4 trucks, paint and equipment. I don't find it funny or beautiful. I find it destructive. You a former railroader? Yeah, right.
@@TheBandit7613: Technically I'm still an employee on furlough. Don't believe it? Tough. Graffiti in cities can be beautiful, as evidenced by, yes, tax money spent PAYING some graffiti artists to make some of the blight look nicer. The ugly stuff is mostly gang-related. That's a direct result of the immoral, unconstitutional "Drug War." in any case, government is the worst way to do anything.
The funny thing is that you think a movie made in part by conrail and metro north would show locomotives in conrail and mta paint.... Not fully panted penn central units
You say modern railroads "make 95% of their profits" from freight service. Last I heard, no railroads make any profit, being government subsidized.....and certainly NO passenger rail service in my lifetime has ever made a profit. Am I wrong? After all, I get my information from the modern day press, so I wouldn't be surprised if I am wrong.
oh, nevermind....by the time I got to end of video (which, in spite of the age of the video, I thought was excellent) I could see this is not really about modern railways of the 21st century, or even the late 20th century.which I would have known if I had read the intro. My bad.
Back in the day when MEN were MEN!!!! When people understood what hard work and reward was...When you really had to know what the hell you were doing... Before heavy regulation that now slows down operations... Yes Safety is paramount...but so is not being a dumbass and paying attention to your surroundings ALL the time and not getting complacent...
Sad to see the old PC logos, the remanents of the the great Penn Railroad, then (in the 1970s) just a government owned and managed shell of it's former self. The PC was then migrated into the MYA, an equally non functional government entity.
We had to supply most of our own PPC at CSX. They gave us goggles and earplugs, plus water and ice. Gloves, & boots we had to buy, except our first pair of boots AFTER completing training. I think they stopped the boots 'cause guys were using the coupons for regular type boots and sellin' em.
@@KutWrite Well that sure sucks. At two of my recent workplaces, insulating gloves were supplied to line workers but they chose their own boots. I think they bought them personally since they went with them from employer to employer. Water/sewer employees were sent to a local Red Wing store to get their safety boots which the employer paid for. I guess some companies just take better care of their employees than others.
Are you a freakin' idiot???... Do they really have to put "at the time of recording" on all films because of numb nuts like you? You are the reason we have warning tags and stickers on common everyday appliances... SMFH...
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Amazing to see Penn Central and NY passenger ops of the era!!!
notice they used the pistol grip levers in the tower, conrail had the reg upper lever side ways type, but both worked very well in lue of the all computer systems of today and they break down very often, 1 lighting storm and many problems arise, that old stuff worked a lot better in any weather condition, that stuff was made to last for 200 yrs and more.
When I was a kid, I lived right up the hill from the freight yard that appears @4:24. They switched all night.
This film is definitely in stark contrast to the Penn Central's film from 1974, where they were showing cars derailing, left and right.
then watch this:
ruclips.net/video/EKcJIPpjh0g/видео.html
😂
Great Penn Central footage!
we have a problem here with the editing.
how many people saw the scl/ln family lines box car?
family lines painting did appear until 1978. yet we have pure PC.
CR began in 1976, so there should have been some CRd locos and equipment.
You mean 1968? Not 1978!
Cool! Three-way switches at 9:50 and 10:50!
The track in the yard at 15:00!
Thanks for posting 👍
Love the takes around "MO", that was one helluva interlocking plant!
I worked "VI" tower in Connellsville, PA 'til CSX got rid of all the towers. It was good work while it lasted.
That is amazing!
Surely it's my age. But I really enjoyed this film. Oops I mean video.
I like movies that explain things, and this one was alright. But what do they do about snow and ice in the rail switches?
How do they thaw a frozen coupler?
I enjoyed seeing the cabooses too
In my area at least switches have propane powered heaters. If a RR doesn't have those one of the ways they would thaw them was with rope soaked in diesel. They would lay that down next to the rails then light it.
Fire!
At 13:30 - huh, they don't show the part where they slop diesel all over the ground and create a super-fund sight.
Wow, kids today prob think of typewriters, and key-punch machines like we older folks do about an abacus. But hey, they did the job just fine, usually, in their day. Just, not quite as fast.
b3j8 When I think of it, I think of the railroads... And only the railroads.
you can have the fastest computer in the world, but you can only build a train so fast...
12:40 can anyone tell me more about this engine? it says it runs on a third rail but it looks like any other F-unit. Intriguing!
edit: maybe a EMD FL9? But why change it out if it's dual-mode?
no one else noticed the locked axle 0:40 ? Smokin'!
It is only Amtrak, that is normal.
That was steam not smoke.
12:30 "At this point in the route, the diesels of all long distance trains are removed and replaced by engines that operate off the third rail", he said as an engineer climbs aboard an idling diesel locomotive and notches up the engine...
its a FL9, it can operate on third rail
@@cubedsixtyfour Thanks. Good catch.
I was shocked to learn that PC has wash racks.
very good video
Does anyone remember if at time of production (75-76) the PC Had already been sold to Conrail?
Conrail officially started operations April 1st 1976
Very interesting 👍♐️
Those FL9 units 5029 and 5013 look like they have had hard lives. Amazingly most of them soldiered on into Amtrak service and longer.
If Amtrak was more affordable to ride, I would prefer that as a mode of travel over flying because of the different scenic routes that most of us never see from the city we are surrounded by and the roads that are always packed
Oh where has the time gone? "Modern" When I heard that word describing those old F units I had to chuckle!
Thank goodness for cushion underframes.
Joes TrainVideos Conrail did not start operations until April 1, 1976 so the old paint was around for awhile. Believe me new paint was not a priority.
They couldn't afford ballast let alone paint...
at the beggining of the video i didnt know they kept levers detached and carried around by engineers..makes perfect sense..do you know if they do this today?
Usually crews don’t take them with them.
This about 75ish?
What is the song used in the beginning half?
@Pentode7591 thank you so much!!! I've been looking for months!
This video is well done, though a bit dated. I think Conrail did a better job than NS or CSX, though this may be my opinion? Also, the meeting point was Pomontory NOT Promontory Point!
Jesus... there's more grass in that yard than there is gravel... Penn Central Kwauluhtee there...
Are crews still allowed to "kick" cars into a siding? I'm talking about uncoupling a car while it is moving, and then stopping the engine. That happens at least twice in this film. Also guys keep jumping off moving trains, even where they are in the front of the train and are one false move from being run over.
That would probably depend on the individual company but yes, crews still kick cars today. There's a video on YT of NS crews doing this within the past year.
@@whiteknightcat Huh. You would think the higher ups would have kittens. Just falling off a train without getting run over can cause injuries.
Im a conductor for BNSF and we can kick cars or drop cars at certain yards where this action is specifically approved in the timetable or SSI (System Special Instructions)
However, getting on or off moving equipment is no longer allowed except in a handful of coal mines where coal trains are moving at a speed of 1mph or less with special speed governor equipment.
love that blue and yellow fl9, but the air whistle was dubbed over with another horn :(
Yes, there called reverse lever.
cool
1:08 I once found a hammerhead like that.
Back in the day before filthy taggers turned the rolling stock into urban murals.
Before the "spray can" was invented!
@Sean Embry: Just what we need, more laws, esp. at the federal level!
Taxes and police powers aren't already high enough?
Local cops and the RRs can handle their own priorities, thanks.
Besides, as a former railroader, I found many of the tags funny and even beautiful.
Yes, there's a safety issue, that's why the RR police watch the more dangerous areas.
"congress critters", I like that.
@@KutWrite
Taxes?
I guess you have no idea how much we (a city out west) spend on graffiti removal. We have 4 people, 2 mobile paint trucks, 2 people and two truck mounted pressure washers. 6 full time workers, 4 trucks, paint and equipment.
I don't find it funny or beautiful. I find it destructive.
You a former railroader? Yeah, right.
@@TheBandit7613: Technically I'm still an employee on furlough. Don't believe it? Tough.
Graffiti in cities can be beautiful, as evidenced by, yes, tax money spent PAYING some graffiti artists to make some of the blight look nicer.
The ugly stuff is mostly gang-related. That's a direct result of the immoral, unconstitutional "Drug War."
in any case, government is the worst way to do anything.
Wow. Looks old to me.
The funny thing is that you think a movie made in part by conrail and metro north would show locomotives in conrail and mta paint.... Not fully panted penn central units
Take a look at the production date. This was before Conrail.
I can’t believe you just said that
Wow they had Windows 10 back then to control the trains!
Pan Am😵
I wonder if that "skilled mechanic" at 14:28 could pass a drug test?
He looks like a stoner 2 me. LMAO
@GJL625 Wow. You believe union OWN factories and shut them down. How obtuse are you?
lmao not many railroaders would have passed a drub test back then.
The condition of the locomotives, cars and track were astounding, like a third world country. To some extent they still are in 2019!
You say modern railroads "make 95% of their profits" from freight service. Last I heard, no railroads make any profit, being government subsidized.....and certainly NO passenger rail service in my lifetime has ever made a profit. Am I wrong? After all, I get my information from the modern day press, so I wouldn't be surprised if I am wrong.
oh, nevermind....by the time I got to end of video (which, in spite of the age of the video, I thought was excellent) I could see this is not really about modern railways of the 21st century, or even the late 20th century.which I would have known if I had read the intro. My bad.
Go UP
The long-hair hippy working on the brake valve is stoned out of his mind. High as hell.
Don't see modern anymore
those who diesel engines are music to my ears
I'm famous!
Which guy are you in the video?
jmad1952 You’re in MØ tower aren’t you working the switches how long are you in
Mo Tower
@@MattAttack54 I worked the towers including MO from 1972 till 1987 when operations moved to GCT.
Back in the day when MEN were MEN!!!! When people understood what hard work and reward was...When you really had to know what the hell you were doing... Before heavy regulation that now slows down operations... Yes Safety is paramount...but so is not being a dumbass and paying attention to your surroundings ALL the time and not getting complacent...
Sad to see the old PC logos, the remanents of the the great Penn Railroad, then (in the 1970s) just a government owned and managed shell of it's former self. The PC was then migrated into the MYA, an equally non functional government entity.
So PC could afford to wash locos but they couldn't buy a single set of stinkin' work gloves for the crew in the first switching clip?
We had to supply most of our own PPC at CSX. They gave us goggles and earplugs, plus water and ice. Gloves, & boots we had to buy, except our first pair of boots AFTER completing training. I think they stopped the boots 'cause guys were using the coupons for regular type boots and sellin' em.
@@KutWrite Well that sure sucks. At two of my recent workplaces, insulating gloves were supplied to line workers but they chose their own boots. I think they bought them personally since they went with them from employer to employer. Water/sewer employees were sent to a local Red Wing store to get their safety boots which the employer paid for. I guess some companies just take better care of their employees than others.
Sounds like "Dick Clark"
LOL - Penn Central went bankrupt long ago. And computer punched cards are gone to. Nothing modern about this propaganda film.
Are you a freakin' idiot???... Do they really have to put "at the time of recording" on all films because of numb nuts like you? You are the reason we have warning tags and stickers on common everyday appliances... SMFH...
Flyby 1000 thank god someone said it because I was about to