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What are the bases you've used here? This looks like balsa but i'm not sure? -- I can get fairly thin MDF for builds, but its still fairly thick and the belt sander is required to run them down on the edges so they don't look like steps. + ... having to use a ban saw to break it down is a bit annoying
@@gremilllion Can I suggest getting a small rotary tool or a Dremel? Even a cheap charging one off amazon works wonders. An engraver bit breaks up the edges on MDF blanks easily while the cut-off wheel is great for cutting but I use it to score and snap. Wire bristle brushes add texture to spray foam. The sanding wheel bit will smooth down MDF easily as well. I use .1 in (2.54 mm) sheets and cutouts.
It may be small but I LOVED the door going into the skull. It reminds me of people rebuilding their lives after a Titan or something else powerful was brought down.
I just moved from California to Florida and I had to part with years worth of terrain I had built. I gave all the stuff to my old gaming group. I just kept telling myself that I have more experience crafting now and I’ll build the terrain again even better. Can’t say I wasn’t heartbroken though. I definitely miss all my stuff. 😢
After dipping your toes in 40k, cyberpunk and a bunch of other stuff, It's really nice to see that you've found a hobby niche that truly speaks to you - even if you had to literally make it yourself! You've really done a great job with this whole game, it's so easy to see your heart and soul in it :)
Great to see the colours! I think my mind was imagining Northern Lights when thinking of the atmosphere in The Echo. It's difficult I think to add colour to things like rocks and rubble, but the result can be pretty striking. Thanks Jeremy!
I just grabbed two foam skulls to use for a hellish terrain build (Reign In Hell) from the Dollar Store here in the US. They were super easy to cut. The door in the side of the one skull was super cool, reminded me of someone using the remains of some ancient giant as a home. Still going to say it, your Echo builds are my favorite, even when they're quick projects. It's interesting to see what someone I consider an accomplished artist can do in a short amount of time. Gives you a look into their imagination and thought process. And, no, you are not the only one who has trouble parting with things they've made. Had to purge some stuff and cleaned out a bunch of post apocalyptic costumes I made a few years ago. I didn't quit throw EVERYTHING out (kept a few pieces from each costume as a memento) but its the closest I've ever gotten to giving away stuff I've made (they went to a local reuse-it shop for Halloween).
I understand your dilemma about not wanting to give up your things you make, but my art instructor in college taught me a valuable lesson. "You made it once you can make it again & make it better."
Totally get not wanting to give it up. I painted a bust for my dad for his birthday and poured all the skill I have into it. At the end, it was the best model I've ever done and I had trouble giving it to him. In the end, I reminded myself why I had done it in the first place. Once I handed it to him and I saw his face, I no longer felt like I needed to keep it. I made the right decision.
I even have trouble parting with bought minis, boxed games, books; which have either become part of the evergrowing grey pile of shame or will never be used since they were an impulse buy. Overcoming such “fears” helps you in the long run. And on the plus side, someone else will be much happier with it than you are with in being stored in a box or closet. Great video once again! Can’t wait to play Idols of Torment.
I was fascinated by Napoleonic wargaming as a lad. But then I put the figures into storage and considered selling off all the books. Twenty years later, and I’m so glad I didn’t. Once again it’s the centre of my interests. I’ve also got a few impulse projects that never got very far, but while I’ve got the space I like to keep them. Never know what will grab my attention again five years from now.
I don't play table top games or paint miniatures, but I do paint and resculpt custom modelhorses and make terrain bases for some of them and YES I have the exact same problem. I get so attached to projects that I struggle to sell them etc. Also, I may not own miniatures myself or anything but I do absolute love videos like these. I learn so much stuff from them that I can use in my own projects even tho they're different from one another
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but to desaturate colors, you can use a tiny bit of the opposite color on the color wheel, or a bit of grey 😁
you know I don't play any tabletop games like the ones you play and your new one (congrats by the way) but I watch all your vids on your builds. They are great and have given me ideas for my own dioramas and prop builds I do. I feel I pick up a new tip every time. Just wanted to pass on some thoughts from a non-gamer. Keep up the excellent work, we all enjoy it. Thanks man.
I haven't made much in almost a year, and the things I have made I had to leave in another country. It's hard to let things you've built go. But whats better than seeing your creations on a shelf, is seeing other people enjoy them!
Hi. New subscriber here. My son and I decided to get into mini painting and landscape building. Your videos are fantastic and they create an excitement in my son that I haven’t seen in a long time. Cheers to you for your time and effort. Great stuff.
I feel your pain. I can’t part with anything I’ve made/crafted. Not even the really early stuff that looks like crap. These look great and I can’t wait to see the play video
As my kids and thier friends , the core of my DnD gamers are getting older... my oldest and two of her friends graduated and are at university... l let them each take some terrain and some minis... one of her friends mom is a lawyer , so she photocopied hundreds of pages of rules and modules... three more graduate this year ... l am facing empty dungeon syndrome.
Your experience in your terrain builds is really starting to show now. When you first started it was nothing like you are now. Letting go of old terrains and sculpts is really hard to do. I totally get it. Seeing how far you have come is absolutely amazing. ❤
My room is filled with dice towers, dice boxes, dice trays. Prototypes I printed while designing the models. It's so hard to give that away. Especially the prototypes as they show the evolution of the creation. But I cant display them all, nor can I use them all. Even switching my gaming gear every game night would cover me for the next two or three years. Send help ^^
As a commission builder, it can be difficult at times to give the client the model they paid you to build. However, if you have good clients who allow you to be creative with their builds because they trust you, it feels good adding your own spin onto something. And knowing they will love it makes giving up something you poured so much of yourself into feel good. Still difficult to give away. But still a bit easier knowing it's going to someone who will appreciate what you created. 😊 Excellent video. Many, many congratulations on Idols of Torment. 🤘 Be Excellent to each other and to yourself. Party on. 🤘🎸😎
No…you are not….*sigh* lol. The first terrain I 3D designed, 3D printed and painted went to a local store just in time for a tournament. The store has a complete set of terrain while I don’t yet. (Currently printing it so I can have my own)
At the dentist, they have a tv on while they’re doing work on me I’m looking at a bunch of European scenery, and all I was doing was saying. Oh, foam, these techniques, these colors… you’ve ruined me… in the best way possible lol
As character flaws go, giving away old stock is pretty minor until you need space. Then? Not so minor. There really aren't any answers, you just deal with it when you have to and hope for the best.
While I don't build terrain (yet) I do other forms of crafting. Unless I made it in the first place to give away as a gift, I find it next to impossible to part with my creations - they're part of me.
I just launched a RUclips channel yesterday. I couldn’t back Idols of Torment though I’d love to have the game. The whole concept is just so awesome, but I’ve been out of work for 6 months for health..Not saying that as excuse or sob story just fact. So I’m sitting here watching you and thought if it’s ok with you I could feature terrain and/or dice tray inspired by Idols Of Torment for my next Wesardry video? Thanks, Wes
Those pieces look great. Can't wait to see them on the tabletop. I love Play On Tabletop, so it's good to see them get both another great game and another great set of terrain to play with.
This my favorite of your latest videos. Such a challenge and you delivered so creatively! Im getting a very feeling of the old game Sacrifice from this terrain and Idols of Torment in general.
Next time, when you ship, put the terrains in a loose plastic bag and the pour the peanuts. That way you avoid having to clean off the tiny static cling styrofoam.
I share your pain at giving away something I just made for someone else. It really is like giving away a child, especially if it's an elaborate piece you spent months on. Also, shoutout to Mad Gods! Nice to see that playing in the background, because it's the perfect thing to have playing as white noise for making terrain for something like Idols of Torment.
Don't worry I know all about how it feels to give away or sell something you made. I made my cousin some spore pod/drop pods for his 40k Tyranid army. I originally planned on making him like 2-3 and we'll I fell in love with how they looked. Mainly the first one I made. So I believe I ended up making like 4-5 more of them and giving him 2-3 of my least favorites out of the batch lol. Another time I even crafted up this cool looking Batman symbol thing for her birthday because we are both big Batman fans. Well I almost wanted to keep it and make another one for her but I ended up giving it to her and she loved it to death. She knew I made it myself for her. she asked me to be honest on how much did I spend on making it. I told her I already had the material but if I had to buy it at the store all the materials new would only been a few bucks and the amount I used in the making of the gift was probably a small handful of mixed change. She told me even though it cost so little to make that she said it was probably the best gift she got that year.
I've learned so much from your channel that I feel like my terrain looks pretty good once finished. I actually have the opposite issue from you. Due to minimal space, I throw almost everything out once it's served it's purpose and my players always bitch at me for being so willy nilly. The act of making and using it to me is more precious than the thing itself
Complete opposite, I’m never happy with my terrain and want to give it away and start from scratch. I’d trade you half of my mentality for half of yours
Not my cup of tea I don’t like horror gamesI don’t like horror in general in your general TSO so the game I’m happy for you to start the game making it so I’m happy for you but I am not so happy to play it I like to watch you didn’t make the train but not play it
Really cool! I think it's super cool you were able to use simple easy to get things like cheap Halloween skulls to make awesome terrain! Super inspiring!
There is a home on my walk to my favourite breakfast spot. When it comes time to retire a print and I feel like a nice breakfast, i place it on their doorframe or in their garden. I've been doing this for years.
@@Warhammer3025 sometimes they stay for months before disappearing. I don't know if that means people eventually steal them or if it means inside their home is a shrine of my discarded prints
This quickie set looks really good so I definitely get the hesitancy to let it go! Also, this just occurred to me because of your sponsor but...after the kickstarter is finished, have you thought about getting some Idols of Torment T-shirts made? It looks like you have a lot of cool art made for the game, so this is just a thought.
Oh no! You're doing the photoshopped Super Deformed face thing in your thumbnails. Please, be better than that. I don't want to support that hideous nonsense.
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What are the bases you've used here? This looks like balsa but i'm not sure? -- I can get fairly thin MDF for builds, but its still fairly thick and the belt sander is required to run them down on the edges so they don't look like steps. + ... having to use a ban saw to break it down is a bit annoying
Larger ones are MDF discs from Dollarama. Smaller ones are plywood and mdf discs from amazon.
@@gremilllion Can I suggest getting a small rotary tool or a Dremel? Even a cheap charging one off amazon works wonders.
An engraver bit breaks up the edges on MDF blanks easily while the cut-off wheel is great for cutting but I use it to score and snap. Wire bristle brushes add texture to spray foam. The sanding wheel bit will smooth down MDF easily as well. I use .1 in (2.54 mm) sheets and cutouts.
Ohw you fight with dust on your terrain on shelfes?
@@MarkLewis... It is a scam. I got it as well. Just best to report and move on.
It may be small but I LOVED the door going into the skull. It reminds me of people rebuilding their lives after a Titan or something else powerful was brought down.
I just moved from California to Florida and I had to part with years worth of terrain I had built. I gave all the stuff to my old gaming group. I just kept telling myself that I have more experience crafting now and I’ll build the terrain again even better. Can’t say I wasn’t heartbroken though. I definitely miss all my stuff. 😢
Sorry about the storm. Hope you're safe.
Hey, hope you’re safe and that hurricane Ian isn’t affecting you directly.
Thanks guys! Luckily my area did not take the brunt of the storm and all we suffered was a couple of downed trees.
@@ddesouz6 That’s great to hear! Hopefully the areas that were affected more severely will recover quickly.
This pain is too real man. Congrats on Idols of Torment!
After dipping your toes in 40k, cyberpunk and a bunch of other stuff, It's really nice to see that you've found a hobby niche that truly speaks to you - even if you had to literally make it yourself!
You've really done a great job with this whole game, it's so easy to see your heart and soul in it :)
Great to see the colours! I think my mind was imagining Northern Lights when thinking of the atmosphere in The Echo. It's difficult I think to add colour to things like rocks and rubble, but the result can be pretty striking. Thanks Jeremy!
I can't wait to see Play On Tabletop's battle report on Idols of Torment.
Play On makes the best battle reports hands down, can't wait for this!
@@bengamingames5002 agreed
Yeah! Too bad the timing wasn't such that it came out during the Kickstarter campaign, but still... can't wait to see it!
I just grabbed two foam skulls to use for a hellish terrain build (Reign In Hell) from the Dollar Store here in the US. They were super easy to cut. The door in the side of the one skull was super cool, reminded me of someone using the remains of some ancient giant as a home. Still going to say it, your Echo builds are my favorite, even when they're quick projects. It's interesting to see what someone I consider an accomplished artist can do in a short amount of time. Gives you a look into their imagination and thought process.
And, no, you are not the only one who has trouble parting with things they've made. Had to purge some stuff and cleaned out a bunch of post apocalyptic costumes I made a few years ago. I didn't quit throw EVERYTHING out (kept a few pieces from each costume as a memento) but its the closest I've ever gotten to giving away stuff I've made (they went to a local reuse-it shop for Halloween).
I understand your dilemma about not wanting to give up your things you make, but my art instructor in college taught me a valuable lesson. "You made it once you can make it again & make it better."
I love that hand. Wish we had that dollar store in my area.
I have to admit, I didn't realize just how much I missed your content. Excited for Idols of Torment, but also excited to see more builds again!
Totally get not wanting to give it up. I painted a bust for my dad for his birthday and poured all the skill I have into it. At the end, it was the best model I've ever done and I had trouble giving it to him. In the end, I reminded myself why I had done it in the first place. Once I handed it to him and I saw his face, I no longer felt like I needed to keep it. I made the right decision.
I painted something for my dad too and went through similar feelings! Totally worth it though, it’s on display in their dining room and he loves it 😊
I don't know why, but that door in the side of the giant skull really does something for me. It's so simple and yet so darn striking!
I even have trouble parting with bought minis, boxed games, books; which have either become part of the evergrowing grey pile of shame or will never be used since they were an impulse buy. Overcoming such “fears” helps you in the long run. And on the plus side, someone else will be much happier with it than you are with in being stored in a box or closet. Great video once again! Can’t wait to play Idols of Torment.
I was fascinated by Napoleonic wargaming as a lad. But then I put the figures into storage and considered selling off all the books. Twenty years later, and I’m so glad I didn’t. Once again it’s the centre of my interests.
I’ve also got a few impulse projects that never got very far, but while I’ve got the space I like to keep them. Never know what will grab my attention again five years from now.
I don't play table top games or paint miniatures, but I do paint and resculpt custom modelhorses and make terrain bases for some of them and YES I have the exact same problem. I get so attached to projects that I struggle to sell them etc.
Also, I may not own miniatures myself or anything but I do absolute love videos like these. I learn so much stuff from them that I can use in my own projects even tho they're different from one another
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but to desaturate colors, you can use a tiny bit of the opposite color on the color wheel, or a bit of grey 😁
you know I don't play any tabletop games like the ones you play and your new one (congrats by the way) but I watch all your vids on your builds. They are great and have given me ideas for my own dioramas and prop builds I do. I feel I pick up a new tip every time. Just wanted to pass on some thoughts from a non-gamer. Keep up the excellent work, we all enjoy it. Thanks man.
💀🖐️🖤 came out great and I bet premixed grout would stand a bit of paint to tweak it's base colour too 👍
About to watch this. The biggest challenge is gonna be storage or storage/ retiring terrain. Okay I watch now!!
I was way off.
Roughing out terrain MY FAVORITE PART OF THE BUILD!!!!!!!
I'm definitely a project hoarder. There's no sense denying it.
I haven't made much in almost a year, and the things I have made I had to leave in another country. It's hard to let things you've built go. But whats better than seeing your creations on a shelf, is seeing other people enjoy them!
Hi. New subscriber here. My son and I decided to get into mini painting and landscape building. Your videos are fantastic and they create an excitement in my son that I haven’t seen in a long time. Cheers to you for your time and effort. Great stuff.
I feel your pain. I can’t part with anything I’ve made/crafted. Not even the really early stuff that looks like crap.
These look great and I can’t wait to see the play video
Canada's largest collection of Billy bookcases.
Cracking set of terrain once again! Your speed/quality ratio is pretty darn high. I'm only mildly jelly :-) Cheers!
I definitely understand the need to hoard things you make. I'm running out of space on my shelves which is kind of a problem.
As my kids and thier friends , the core of my DnD gamers are getting older... my oldest and two of her friends graduated and are at university... l let them each take some terrain and some minis... one of her friends mom is a lawyer , so she photocopied hundreds of pages of rules and modules... three more graduate this year ... l am facing empty dungeon syndrome.
oooo, cant wait to see that Battle Report and y'all fellow Canadians. ima go grab a Tims
That complimentary packing peanut ASMR at the end...🤌🤌
I see Mad God playing in the background there. Seems like a great fit for IoT!
Bit not a great fit for crafting…..no dialog. Now I gotta watch again when I can pay attention 😄
Your experience in your terrain builds is really starting to show now. When you first started it was nothing like you are now. Letting go of old terrains and sculpts is really hard to do. I totally get it. Seeing how far you have come is absolutely amazing. ❤
My room is filled with dice towers, dice boxes, dice trays. Prototypes I printed while designing the models. It's so hard to give that away. Especially the prototypes as they show the evolution of the creation. But I cant display them all, nor can I use them all. Even switching my gaming gear every game night would cover me for the next two or three years. Send help ^^
As a commission builder, it can be difficult at times to give the client the model they paid you to build.
However, if you have good clients who allow you to be creative with their builds because they trust you, it feels good adding your own spin onto something. And knowing they will love it makes giving up something you poured so much of yourself into feel good.
Still difficult to give away. But still a bit easier knowing it's going to someone who will appreciate what you created. 😊
Excellent video. Many, many congratulations on Idols of Torment. 🤘
Be Excellent to each other and to yourself. Party on. 🤘🎸😎
I totally get not wanting to part with any of your builds, Im in the same boat and currently running out of space lol
Well done kiddo!
at a buffet I sneak 6 corndogs into the buffet in my jacket pockets. I place them on the buffet and watch other patrons eat my corndogs .......
That’s awesome
This is a great set! I really hope to find usable Halloween decorations in my part of the world as well. Also looking forward to the battle report.
No…you are not….*sigh* lol. The first terrain I 3D designed, 3D printed and painted went to a local store just in time for a tournament. The store has a complete set of terrain while I don’t yet. (Currently printing it so I can have my own)
At the dentist, they have a tv on while they’re doing work on me I’m looking at a bunch of European scenery, and all I was doing was saying. Oh, foam, these techniques, these colors… you’ve ruined me… in the best way possible lol
I find myself with kits or part builds laying about for years and find I just have to finish them so I can sell them.
I've been eyeing the Halloween decorations at a local Dolar General as well. Good terrain for relatively cheap!
Thank god for Dollarama! The Canadian terrain builders go-to resource for that stuff you didn't realize you were missing. XD
As character flaws go, giving away old stock is pretty minor until you need space. Then? Not so minor. There really aren't any answers, you just deal with it when you have to and hope for the best.
While I don't build terrain (yet) I do other forms of crafting. Unless I made it in the first place to give away as a gift, I find it next to impossible to part with my creations - they're part of me.
I just launched a RUclips channel yesterday. I couldn’t back Idols of Torment though I’d love to have the game. The whole concept is just so awesome, but I’ve been out of work for 6 months for health..Not saying that as excuse or sob story just fact. So I’m sitting here watching you and thought if it’s ok with you I could feature terrain and/or dice tray inspired by Idols Of Torment for my next Wesardry video?
Thanks, Wes
Those pieces look great. Can't wait to see them on the tabletop. I love Play On Tabletop, so it's good to see them get both another great game and another great set of terrain to play with.
Awesome job! I really dig the candles too, it adds so much to the pieces, and brings them into the world I think. Gives them context.
My inability to part with things has lead to an avoidance of making new things so I’m also trying to work on that. :)
This my favorite of your latest videos. Such a challenge and you delivered so creatively! Im getting a very feeling of the old game Sacrifice from this terrain and Idols of Torment in general.
Next time, when you ship, put the terrains in a loose plastic bag and the pour the peanuts. That way you avoid having to clean off the tiny static cling styrofoam.
Wait, someone actually managed to part with their creations? Sounds fake, we'd never be able to do that.
I was wondering 🤔, have you ever tried thinning mod podge so I could be sprayed through a paint gun , for sealing large foam pieces?
Possible to paint eyesockets with some black 3.0?
I like what you've done with this game and how it inspires creativity - * goes down to the store to pick up skulls*
Lord Jeremy vs Play on Tabletop when?
that grout reall did those foam skulls a huge upgrade - i use it whenever i need to get rid of styrofoam-ness.
Bro this is my favorite set you’ve made on screen so far!!!!
where you watching mad god?! i love thaty movie
Sees the skulls like nahhh, then u did that. Holy craaaaap
I share your pain at giving away something I just made for someone else. It really is like giving away a child, especially if it's an elaborate piece you spent months on. Also, shoutout to Mad Gods! Nice to see that playing in the background, because it's the perfect thing to have playing as white noise for making terrain for something like Idols of Torment.
Don't worry I know all about how it feels to give away or sell something you made.
I made my cousin some spore pod/drop pods for his 40k Tyranid army. I originally planned on making him like 2-3 and we'll I fell in love with how they looked. Mainly the first one I made. So I believe I ended up making like 4-5 more of them and giving him 2-3 of my least favorites out of the batch lol.
Another time I even crafted up this cool looking Batman symbol thing for her birthday because we are both big Batman fans. Well I almost wanted to keep it and make another one for her but I ended up giving it to her and she loved it to death. She knew I made it myself for her. she asked me to be honest on how much did I spend on making it. I told her I already had the material but if I had to buy it at the store all the materials new would only been a few bucks and the amount I used in the making of the gift was probably a small handful of mixed change. She told me even though it cost so little to make that she said it was probably the best gift she got that year.
I've learned so much from your channel that I feel like my terrain looks pretty good once finished. I actually have the opposite issue from you. Due to minimal space, I throw almost everything out once it's served it's purpose and my players always bitch at me for being so willy nilly. The act of making and using it to me is more precious than the thing itself
Thanks for the tip on the grout. Kinda tricky to find that mix in Sweden, but I'll look about n see if I can find something similar.
Complete opposite, I’m never happy with my terrain and want to give it away and start from scratch. I’d trade you half of my mentality for half of yours
Very cool stuff.
Not my cup of tea I don’t like horror gamesI don’t like horror in general in your general TSO so the game I’m happy for you to start the game making it so I’m happy for you but I am not so happy to play it I like to watch you didn’t make the train but not play it
Really cool! I think it's super cool you were able to use simple easy to get things like cheap Halloween skulls to make awesome terrain! Super inspiring!
Oh heck! I love Play On Tabletop! I can't wait to see what they do with your terrain.
BLACK WASH!!!!!
Foam skulls for the win! Oh! I totally have to get some of that grout. Very cool.
those hand props are incredible! I need some. unfortunately I dont have that store here 😕
Hey Jeremy, I might not need the supports on the one over at My Mini Factory.
There is a home on my walk to my favourite breakfast spot. When it comes time to retire a print and I feel like a nice breakfast, i place it on their doorframe or in their garden. I've been doing this for years.
Do they keep it? Or are you just saying "here, throw this away for me"?
@@Warhammer3025 I need to know
@@Warhammer3025 sometimes they stay for months before disappearing. I don't know if that means people eventually steal them or if it means inside their home is a shrine of my discarded prints
Killer speed build. Glad to see you're feeling better, too.
Keeping your stuff is a feature, not a flaw.
Is it though?
Ahh a fellow Canadain...they need a sub!
Great use of Halloween stuff :)
Jeremy at 2:40 what were you watching?
Mad God
This quickie set looks really good so I definitely get the hesitancy to let it go! Also, this just occurred to me because of your sponsor but...after the kickstarter is finished, have you thought about getting some Idols of Torment T-shirts made? It looks like you have a lot of cool art made for the game, so this is just a thought.
For sure, there will be shirts.
PS Dollar tree is cheaper and for crafts have better product...as well thank you for using other products then the mini products soo my style.
No way, I really dislike Dollar Tree (except for their foamcore). Dollarama has WAY better stuff.
I have to know, what movie were you watching in the background????
Mad God
You should sell it for charity or profit
I'll be excited when this whole idols of torment thing is in the past. It makes for really boring content.
You’ve only ever left negative comments on this channel so I doubt you’ll ever be excited about anything here.
Why would they only give you 24 hours to make them a bunch of terrain? Makes little to no sense.
Timelines that overlap and deadlines can get complicated.
Oh no! You're doing the photoshopped Super Deformed face thing in your thumbnails. Please, be better than that. I don't want to support that hideous nonsense.
I don't make the rules.
@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial - All it takes for ugliness to triumph is for men with good taste to do nothing... Lol
$40 for a quart of grout damn