I'm still awaiting the "uncomfortable moment". So... Q: Exactly WAHT was the uncomfortable moment? The fact that there are people breathing really hard the smoggy air in Lost Angeles?
We all need to learn to lighten up and laugh a little, I think it was funny. Being the color commentator (no pun intended) for a marathon is a tough assignment.
Yeah i think the commentators weren't sure what to make of it. In fairness, all he was saying was that Ethiopians and Kenyans tend to dominate marathons and it was unusual to see them NOT leading it. Or at least I THINK that's what he was trying to say :) I don't think it's a racist comment
The Marathon as a sport is not just about which race is superior and what the color of their skin is. That would be too selfish to label such a magnificent sporting event. Much rather it is about personal victories and determination. I don't care if you are Asian, White or Black, anyone who does train for and successfully completes a Marathon should be recognized as a victory. The sport is a victory for humanity.
There have been a few good spaniards in recent years too and the portugese have a sub 2.10 group of runners. Also, Mr Brown (British) 4th in 2000 and 2004 Olympics. European or white runners as this post denotes can produce good results if they run even paced, they can't respond to big changes of pace etc like the eastern africans can inject. I am a white marathon runner myself, but for me a good performance is somewhere near 2.45 for the marathon, so I'm not even close to their level )
there's an article in The Atlantic - "Why Kenyans Make Such Great Runners: A Story of Genes and Cultures" that doesn't give an specific answer but talks a lot about the misconceptions that come up on this subject.
While to the ignorant, "black" Africa all looks the same, in fact it's a matter of very high probability that if there's to be a specialized adaptation, such as distance running, that it will come from the African pool.The human genetic diversity in Africa is orders of magnitude greater than the rest of the world combined. Imagine a gum ball machine with 100 colors. That's Africa. Two or three of those colors left Africa and populated the other continents while everything else stayed behind.
I'm not sure what you're referring to with the muscle fiber thing, but you are further proving my point. Jamaicans (who originated from West Africa) are genetically different from east Africans and are more geared towards sprints. Do you think it's a coincidence that distance runners and sprinters are both from specific regions?
I have members of my family (both parents included) who did long distance running as a sport...in Kenya and in the States. I possess no long distance running skills/genes/luck at all. And wtf? My family members that live in Kenya are mostly farmers. When we visited family, they killed a chicken to celebrate. They raise farm animals, they live off of their farm crops.
My nephew is a very good white distance runner. In high school he got the nickname "white Kenyan" which he wears with pride, because he knows that some of the best distance runners come from Kenya. He has great respect for them. I don't see this as racist.
No duh, that's not the issue. The commentator "himself" wasn't being racist. The problem is that his commentary was irresponsible, as it asserted a pre-supposition of what the "other" competitors might be thinking. In other words, the speaker was pre-supposing that the Kenyan and Ethiopian runners were some what racist, claiming they didn't take a competitor seriously b/c he was white. Maybe his co-anchor sense this as well.
The other commentator is the one who choked. You can't leave him hanging out there like that. Even disagreeing with him would be much more appropriate.
Additionally, blacks have comparatively long tendons and short muscle bellies compared to total muscle-tendon length compared to whites. When doing repetitive movements like running, the muscle and tendon of the opposing muscle group to contracting muscles are stretched, which stores energy like an elastic band, which is then added to the backstroke as the opposing muscles contract back. ( sorry, my English isn't very good, we commonly refer to this as horizontaly and vertically striped.)
I think he was talking about black people as athletes in general. West Africans tend to have higher proportion of fast twitch muscles that give them more explosive power. As for the East Africans, I've also read that they train in high altitudes all their lives, so their bodies adapt by producing more BPG and allowing oxygen to be unloaded from red blood cells into muscles more efficiently, allowing them to dominate long distance running.
Amen to that! Remember when the ACLU, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the feminists protesting the movie "White Men Can't Jump"????? Yeah.....neither do I.
I'm guessing it's because he wasn't saying that the Kenyans and Ethiopians were checking passports, they were looking at how the guy was built, and what he looked like. It's not like a Kenyan who gets US citizenship is suddenly going to be a poor run; the point is that there are things like lung/body ratios and weight distribution defined by ethnicity that factor into performing in an event like a marathon. A white guy isn't from the particular small racial group that dominates this event.
I can just imagine the other commentators just staring wide-eyed after he said that...quite positive that this was going to get some attention...not wanting their voices associated with this sound byte.
The problem isn't that the commentators articulating not taking a white runner seriously. If you fail to take your competition seriously you deserve to loose.The problem is that we still see white runners, and black runners and what ever else runners. When we only see runners we will be on the way
Forgive me if I get too geeky here: Black people have a higher ratio of fast-twitch muscle fibres (which provides muscle bulk) and are better for track and field sports. Though you couldn't say water sports such as rowing and swimming are predominated by superb black athletes. The increased muscle to fat ratio could possibly be a disadvantage in the pool but the rowing issue is more historical/social. Something I'm trying to change at my rowing club.
Thats completely different. Tiger woods has been dominating the sport of golf for the past decade. When he was first starting out Im sure people didn't take him seriously but now that he is that good he demands respect. Whereas there is not one white athlete that can hang with the Kenyans or Ethiopians in a long distance race.
No, I think he's right... If you think about it, a good portion of Africa has no vehicles to go from village to village, so they run and run...that's why, truthfully, there are fewer American winners. However, you are right in saying it comes down to training; but for the Africans, they're not training, they're surviving.
Actually everyone has the right to say anything they want. Racist/Sexist/stupid or not everyone has (or should have in some parts of the world) the right to freedom of speech. Especially on the internet.
. For example, a young western child learning numbers has to learn the regular numbers 1 to 9, and then the numbers 10, 11, 12, and the teens are difficult to remember because the names are seemingly arbitrarily assigned. However, once you get to 20, it gets simple TWENTY-one, TWENTY-two, TWENTY-three etc etc. However with asian languages, the numbers 10,11,12, and the teens are called- what would be the equivalent of- ONE-one, ONE-two, ONE-three etc etc.
Marathon pace is not extremly hard to be done for a couple of minutes. so leading the race for a while at early stages is really no big deal. now taking the lead at the 20th mile and ahead is a different story.
I can only hold 3 min/km (world class marathon pace) for 400 meters. And i'm 28 male and in ok running shape (i run 40 miles per week), running since last september.
Female marathon record holder is Caucasian and from England, I don't think her ancestors were running around chasing animals for food. Kenyan and Ethiopian success originates from their culture.
anybody who knows something about sports knows that the muscular structure between blacks and caucations is differrent. The vertically striped muscles of Ethiopiers make them the best long distance runners in the world. This is what the commentator was aiming for. Not a racist comment at all. Please vote this up so everybody can read and understand what is going on here.
I think the problem is that he said "they see a WHITE GUY out in front..." he should have said the Kenyans and Ethiopians see an "American, or German, or whatever countryman" out in front and they don't take him seriously... That way he could have eliminated any racial tension. I mean, if the guy happened to be black and from America would he have said "they see a black guy in front and don't take him seriously?"
Oh, also Ficken2000turbo, America does NOT have a publicly funded olympics program - all olympic teams in America are funded by private donations. As it happens, track and field in general, and long distance running in particular, have always been underfunded here.
Obama said that a presidential campaign is like running a marathon, and that Kenyans typically win marathons. He's half Kenyan. It wasn't racist then, it's not racist now.
i think he was waiting on the other commentator to respond to his comment but he was being safe and chose not to go down that road. It would have been Don Imus all over again
Ficken - the reason that so many East Africans are successful at Marathon Running is NOT "genetics" but THE FACT THAT THE KENYAN, ETHIOPIAN AND ERITREAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE WELL FUNDED MARATHON RUNNER TRAINING PROGRAMS. The Ethiopian government has had an elaborate marathon runner training program since the 1950's - the Kenyans set up a similar program in the 1960's, and the Eritreans in the 1990's. That's the REAL reason for East African prominence in those sports, not 'genetics'!!!
During the LA Marathon i bought mega lotto in China Town and Im Mexican. Let's face it. If people don't emulate me during the run they are not taking me seriously! Beat That!
If I was a Kenyon and saw a white guy in front who had never had to run for his food, I wouldn't be too worried about him either. Its why they call the white guy a "rabbit".
well as a runner who was in this runner's circumstance many times I'd prefer to hear a comparison of my abilities as a runner to my competitors, and not compared to their color or my color... runners train very intensely and to have color as a topic is insulting to all of those who were near the front. Anyway his comment reflected ultimately on himself and not the runners who are obviously much more accomplished as athletics than he as an announcer.
actually what matters is who is FASTEST over the entire course. so yes it does matter who is fastest. you can be fast in 100m or over 26 miles, different races both require the winner to be faster then everyone else, umm duhh?
I think he may have had a good point. White guys rarely win big marathons. Still, that silence was brutally uncomfortable - whether intentional or not.
ugh. please don't tell someone about their own culture/genetic origins/people/grandparents. there are a lot of deserts, flat lands and mountains all over the world.. and a lot of people evolved there from earlier people that had to run after animals to eat them.
uhhh....... all of our ancestors ran around chasing animals for food.. i'm gonna make an assumption that i can't back up with any facts.. agriculture was probably developed no later in eastern africa than it was in northern europe. there probably are physiological reasons why people from kenya or ethiopia are better at long distance running... but don't reduce it to "they chase animals with pointed sticks for food".
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So - who else came here expecting the runner to shit on the road?
lol
I did to or a face plant
AliasMe76 Guilty.
Yep, lol
LOLOLOL
I honestly thought he was going to squirt brown sauce all over the road.
You little white boys are Little you should NOT be talking about squirting lol, I'll have you squirting from your wrist
Well…. He definitely flung some
Me too 😂
MEE TOOOO
Best response ever, just dead silence
Where is the crap I was promised
😂😂😂
this isnt the worst thing to happen during a marathon in the US
it is totally true what he said. anyone interested in running knows the Kenyans usually win the marathons.
*10 years of dead silence*
@@forrestgump3909 😂
@@forrestgump3909 He is right.
and? all great master of chess are males so why females even bother to play chess?
the same logic as yours
More poop next time plz
totally what i thought :D
Damn
This is what you call "Making something out of nothing".
I thought he was going to crap himself or something...
240p we meet again
Quazzbert LMAO
"I haven't heard that name in years"
I thought he would shit himself. Oh well.....
What did I even miss? I'm confused
The comment about a white guy taking the lead and the Kenyans didn't take him seriously
MrMarkpark YTou only missed the up loader's opinion.
"El Guapo" 😆😆😍
Brings back good memories
. . . and his 'Little Mule'
heh heh
9 years ago damn
16 years of silence.
*Total boss move.*
lol I love how they do a quick camera cut to try and disguise it.
They need to get runners who know what they're talking about to be the commentators for events like this.
I'm still awaiting the "uncomfortable moment".
So... Q: Exactly WAHT was the uncomfortable moment? The fact that there are people breathing really hard the smoggy air in Lost Angeles?
It was uncomfortable bro come on he's supposed to be a professional commentator LOL. I hope you have learned this 13 years later
@@coke8045people like that are capped in their intelligence
@@zpt4862 True, doubt anything has changed in the decade since they wrote that
lol that was funny as hell, and the person who has this video worded the description funny as hell
lol too funny. I heard the birds chirping in that uncomfortable silence. Too bad we couldn't see their expressions as well lol
the silence is the sound of his career ending
Athletes shitting themselves brought me here
lol same
Username not found Error 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 took me 4 years now am here waiting him to shit
"Uncomfortable"? The only thing "Uncomfortable", was me wasting my time to view it.
We all need to learn to lighten up and laugh a little, I think it was funny. Being the color commentator (no pun intended) for a marathon is a tough assignment.
The awkwardness is hilarious.
Yeah i think the commentators weren't sure what to make of it. In fairness, all he was saying was that Ethiopians and Kenyans tend to dominate marathons and it was unusual to see them NOT leading it. Or at least I THINK that's what he was trying to say :) I don't think it's a racist comment
The Marathon as a sport is not just about which race is superior and what the color of their skin is. That would be too selfish to label such a magnificent sporting event. Much rather it is about personal victories and determination. I don't care if you are Asian, White or Black, anyone who does train for and successfully completes a Marathon should be recognized as a victory. The sport is a victory for humanity.
14 YEARS!?
It was not the uncomfortable moment I was expecting but it still made me laugh 😂😂
There have been a few good spaniards in recent years too and the portugese have a sub 2.10 group of runners. Also, Mr Brown (British) 4th in 2000 and 2004 Olympics. European or white runners as this post denotes can produce good results if they run even paced, they can't respond to big changes of pace etc like the eastern africans can inject.
I am a white marathon runner myself, but for me a good performance is somewhere near 2.45 for the marathon, so I'm not even close to their level )
Spaniards and Portuguese are 12% black so that doesnt count
@selfiekroos1777 bruh
there's an article in The Atlantic - "Why Kenyans Make Such Great Runners: A Story of Genes and Cultures" that doesn't give an specific answer but talks a lot about the misconceptions that come up on this subject.
While to the ignorant, "black" Africa all looks the same, in fact it's a matter of very high probability that if there's to be a specialized adaptation, such as distance running, that it will come from the African pool.The human genetic diversity in Africa is orders of magnitude greater than the rest of the world combined. Imagine a gum ball machine with 100 colors. That's Africa. Two or three of those colors left Africa and populated the other continents while everything else stayed behind.
Lol the awkward silence was pretty funny
I thought so too!! lol
I'm not sure what you're referring to with the muscle fiber thing, but you are further proving my point. Jamaicans (who originated from West Africa) are genetically different from east Africans and are more geared towards sprints. Do you think it's a coincidence that distance runners and sprinters are both from specific regions?
I have members of my family (both parents included) who did long distance running as a sport...in Kenya and in the States. I possess no long distance running skills/genes/luck at all. And wtf? My family members that live in Kenya are mostly farmers. When we visited family, they killed a chicken to celebrate. They raise farm animals, they live off of their farm crops.
Only whites should get offended because hes trying to say white people have no chance of winning lol
well the first 4 minute mile was a white guy
I searched for Brachyspira bacteria in IBS , how did I end up here..
My nephew is a very good white distance runner. In high school he got the nickname "white Kenyan" which he wears with pride, because he knows that some of the best distance runners come from Kenya. He has great respect for them. I don't see this as racist.
Marathon runners know how to shit while they run so they can become lighter as they progress through the race.
No duh, that's not the issue. The commentator "himself" wasn't being racist. The problem is that his commentary was irresponsible, as it asserted a pre-supposition of what the "other" competitors might be thinking. In other words, the speaker was pre-supposing that the Kenyan and Ethiopian runners were some what racist, claiming they didn't take a competitor seriously b/c he was white. Maybe his co-anchor sense this as well.
The other commentator is the one who choked. You can't leave him hanging out there like that. Even disagreeing with him would be much more appropriate.
Fun fact. The winner of this race was Laban Moiben, a Kenyan. He ran 2:13:50.
But to address the commentary, they did take Ryan seriously back then.
Some elite runners would pee in their shorts. Winning is everything!
simpsons, maraton dhiarrea guy
I was expecting something much worse because the comment section
the other runners must have been thinking, "I don't care if I lose, there's no way I'm getting anywhere near this guy."
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you could almost hear the crickets in the background
I didn't understand how it was 'uncomfortable' until i read all the posts....I was just watching him run...
Additionally, blacks have comparatively long tendons and short muscle bellies compared to total muscle-tendon length compared to whites. When doing repetitive movements like running, the muscle and tendon of the opposing muscle group to contracting muscles are stretched, which stores energy like an elastic band, which is then added to the backstroke as the opposing muscles contract back. ( sorry, my English isn't very good, we commonly refer to this as horizontaly and vertically striped.)
I think he was talking about black people as athletes in general. West Africans tend to have higher proportion of fast twitch muscles that give them more explosive power. As for the East Africans, I've also read that they train in high altitudes all their lives, so their bodies adapt by producing more BPG and allowing oxygen to be unloaded from red blood cells into muscles more efficiently, allowing them to dominate long distance running.
that was a LONG awkward silence
Somehow RUclips thinks this video contains a runner crapping his shorts and puts it in youtube search results for such things.
Amen to that! Remember when the ACLU, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the feminists protesting the movie "White Men Can't Jump"????? Yeah.....neither do I.
Why do people in this comment think he was going to poop?
the pause started when the commentator said, "when a white guy shows up front, they dont take him seriously." and there is a 10second pause
Jesus Christ man. Tables are flat, chairs are for sitting and Kenyeans and Ethopeans are fast runners!
Someone speaks honestly and truthfully, and it's supposed to be uncomfortable?
It was uncomfortable bro come on he's supposed to be a professional commentator LOL. I hope you have learned this 13 years later
I don't blame Ed for not chiming in. That was smart.
truth sometimes hurts peoples feelings. very awkward!
I'm guessing it's because he wasn't saying that the Kenyans and Ethiopians were checking passports, they were looking at how the guy was built, and what he looked like. It's not like a Kenyan who gets US citizenship is suddenly going to be a poor run; the point is that there are things like lung/body ratios and weight distribution defined by ethnicity that factor into performing in an event like a marathon. A white guy isn't from the particular small racial group that dominates this event.
And here I was, bracing for the guy to poop himself.
he crapped himself and...kept going like he ignored it and kept running
I can just imagine the other commentators just staring wide-eyed after he said that...quite positive that this was going to get some attention...not wanting their voices associated with this sound byte.
The problem isn't that the commentators articulating not taking a white runner seriously. If you fail to take your competition seriously you deserve to loose.The problem is that we still see white runners, and black runners and what ever else runners. When we only see runners we will be on the way
thats not racist, thats like saying "The red car is going slightly faster than the blue car, but the green car is still in the lead".
Forgive me if I get too geeky here: Black people have a higher ratio of fast-twitch muscle fibres (which provides muscle bulk) and are better for track and field sports. Though you couldn't say water sports such as rowing and swimming are predominated by superb black athletes. The increased muscle to fat ratio could possibly be a disadvantage in the pool but the rowing issue is more historical/social. Something I'm trying to change at my rowing club.
Thats completely different. Tiger woods has been dominating the sport of golf for the past decade. When he was first starting out Im sure people didn't take him seriously but now that he is that good he demands respect. Whereas there is not one white athlete that can hang with the Kenyans or Ethiopians in a long distance race.
100% NOT RACIST
He was stating a statically correct fact. Although the last bit was a tiny bit unnecessary but there was no real malice.
No, I think he's right... If you think about it, a good portion of Africa has no vehicles to go from village to village, so they run and run...that's why, truthfully, there are fewer American winners. However, you are right in saying it comes down to training; but for the Africans, they're not training, they're surviving.
Actually everyone has the right to say anything they want. Racist/Sexist/stupid or not everyone has (or should have in some parts of the world) the right to freedom of speech. Especially on the internet.
. For example, a young western child learning numbers has to learn the regular numbers 1 to 9, and then the numbers 10, 11, 12, and the teens are difficult to remember because the names are seemingly arbitrarily assigned. However, once you get to 20, it gets simple TWENTY-one, TWENTY-two, TWENTY-three etc etc. However with asian languages, the numbers 10,11,12, and the teens are called- what would be the equivalent of- ONE-one, ONE-two, ONE-three etc etc.
Marathon pace is not extremly hard to be done for a couple of minutes. so leading the race for a while at early stages is really no big deal. now taking the lead at the 20th mile and ahead is a different story.
I can only hold 3 min/km (world class marathon pace) for 400 meters. And i'm 28 male and in ok running shape (i run 40 miles per week), running since last september.
Female marathon record holder is Caucasian and from England, I don't think her ancestors were running around chasing animals for food. Kenyan and Ethiopian success originates from their culture.
anybody who knows something about sports knows that the muscular structure between blacks and caucations is differrent. The vertically striped muscles of Ethiopiers make them the best long distance runners in the world. This is what the commentator was aiming for. Not a racist comment at all. Please vote this up so everybody can read and understand what is going on here.
This is where they changed marathon to snickers because of hartopp road and my jin love and my jinn children when I was a child
I think the problem is that he said "they see a WHITE GUY out in front..." he should have said the Kenyans and Ethiopians see an "American, or German, or whatever countryman" out in front and they don't take him seriously...
That way he could have eliminated any racial tension. I mean, if the guy happened to be black and from America would he have said "they see a black guy in front and don't take him seriously?"
Oh, also Ficken2000turbo, America does NOT have a publicly funded olympics program - all olympic teams in America are funded by private donations.
As it happens, track and field in general, and long distance running in particular, have always been underfunded here.
Obama said that a presidential campaign is like running a marathon, and that Kenyans typically win marathons. He's half Kenyan. It wasn't racist then, it's not racist now.
LoL the pause was probably because he was thinking about whether he was gonna lose his job or something
I know! That's when I laugh the hardest! LOL!
Nope I have bumper sticker on my car:
I am a German
Not racist.
Proud of it born in U.S.A.
i think he was waiting on the other commentator to respond to his comment but he was being safe and chose not to go down that road. It would have been Don Imus all over again
I was half expecting some poor sucker to poop himself too. This was pretty bad.
saying that black people are generally faster is discrimination, but i agree with you
Ficken - the reason that so many East Africans are successful at Marathon Running is NOT "genetics" but THE FACT THAT THE KENYAN, ETHIOPIAN AND ERITREAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE WELL FUNDED MARATHON RUNNER TRAINING PROGRAMS.
The Ethiopian government has had an elaborate marathon runner training program since the 1950's - the Kenyans set up a similar program in the 1960's, and the Eritreans in the 1990's.
That's the REAL reason for East African prominence in those sports, not 'genetics'!!!
Tony speaks the truth.
It reduces our sport to a stereotype. And any comment that reduces a human being to a sterotype is inflammatory.
Always watch this the night before the LA Marathon! Priceless... Thumbs up if you are runnin LA Marathon 2013
When he says "they see a white guy up front and don't take him seriously", and the other commentator just doesn't reply.
During the LA Marathon i bought mega lotto in China Town and Im Mexican. Let's face it. If people don't emulate me during the run they are not taking me seriously! Beat That!
I thought this was gonna be the video of that picture of that marathon runner who shat himself during a race. I am dissapoint.
Ummmmm....back on message, please? Yes, OP, you're right: it's a very long and very uncomfortable pause.
If I was a Kenyon and saw a white guy in front who had never had to run for his food, I wouldn't be too worried about him either. Its why they call the white guy a "rabbit".
If opponent behind you slips - win win.
well as a runner who was in this runner's circumstance many times I'd prefer to hear a comparison of my abilities as a runner to my competitors, and not compared to their color or my color... runners train very intensely and to have color as a topic is insulting to all of those who were near the front. Anyway his comment reflected ultimately on himself and not the runners who are obviously much more accomplished as athletics than he as an announcer.
America is so trained into racism, can you imagine a white counter part to Al, Jess or even Spike Lee?
He's not touching that with a 10-foot pole.
actually what matters is who is FASTEST over the entire course. so yes it does matter who is fastest. you can be fast in 100m or over 26 miles, different races both require the winner to be faster then everyone else, umm duhh?
I think he may have had a good point. White guys rarely win big marathons. Still, that silence was brutally uncomfortable - whether intentional or not.
The umcomfortable part is how many people actually give a crap....
ugh. please don't tell someone about their own culture/genetic origins/people/grandparents.
there are a lot of deserts, flat lands and mountains all over the world.. and a lot of people evolved there from earlier people that had to run after animals to eat them.
uhhh.......
all of our ancestors ran around chasing animals for food..
i'm gonna make an assumption that i can't back up with any facts.. agriculture was probably developed no later in eastern africa than it was in northern europe.
there probably are physiological reasons why people from kenya or ethiopia are better at long distance running... but don't reduce it to "they chase animals with pointed sticks for food".
I am pretty sure that the Kenyan and Ethiopian distance runners will absolutely NOT feel threatened by a white runner, lol.
Why its even on the suggested videos!