Mike, my favorite hunting of all time is duck hunting down here in Louisiana. I’ve been lots of other places too. I tried to buy an Ithaca Mag 10 when they first came out but nobody down here could find me one. I eventually bought a Remington 1100 12 magnum and it did fine until the advent of mandatory steel shot. Now I shoot a Remington 870 super magnum in 12 gauge. I love the old guns and the lore of duck hunting. It will always appeal to my fancy!
8:10 I call it Splat ! splat ! splat ! makes you work on the wing shot ! as well as BB's with Magnum shells, lol. Thanks for bringing back some Memories !
Love your wonderful shows! They are so full of valuable information and personal enlightment. I can be tired after a hard days work and watch your show an feel so fulfilled and relaxed, alot like reminiscing a past hunt that I had forgotten. Thanks for your time!
Just something about old shotguns....hard to part with. And parts /accessories. I have been collecting old shotshells that look good next to a vintage favorite. Brass shells for trench guns...and those beautiful old Peters boxes. Found a Colt bore gauge. Left hand safety for my M12. Old 870 stock, duck stamps,etc. Man,waterfowl guns have changed for today. Most are synthetic camo semi autos,with all sorts of neat modern improvements. I have to admit, I mostly carry a modded Benelli these days, because it was built for reduced recoil.Doesn't beat an old man up so hard. Thanks once again for your great videos.
nobody does it better. there a lots of reviews of newer guns, and that's just great. a look at these old gems makes the mouth water. nobody can own everything they want, but being given a view is the next best thing. obviously your channel is much appreciated.
Hey Mike. I used Baikal 12G O&U shotguns to shoot Clay`s in the late 80`s. They were solid, well made shotguns. My friend said to me, that if they had any other Brand name, they would cost twice as much. Well made guns and a joy to shoot. Keep safe Mike.
My grandfather had a tremor and shot all game with his Browning shotguns in Southern Georgia- Sweet 16, A5 2 3/4 Mod choke and another A5 Magnum full. He was also a deputy sheriff 1940-70 and what amazed me when he shot his 38 Special, always S&W cause Colt doesn’t hit them as hard LOL he would say, the tremors stopped as he locked in and he could thread a needle with those old lead 158 Grain (?) bullets. Love following you and your hobby. Different weapons bring up lots of great memories. Thanks much!
Lovely trip down memory lane it's great that you show people affordable guns as a young man in the 1960's I could not afford much on an apprentice wage so I bought a savage stevens 77h with a 25 inch barrel and an adjustable choke my goodness I used it for everything and loved it it threw as much shot out the front as any other gun thanks again Mike so enjoyable regards as always
The Mag 10 is one of the best 10 gauge auto loading shotguns ever produced. They are built like a tank. I had always been afraid to shoot steel through mine, in fear of messing up the barrel, being an early model, so, I have just shot lead loads through it. it's Good to know that it will handle steel without damage. I am also a fan of the other shotguns you had on the table in this video.
Started shooting snow geese only this year. I retired near Canora , Sask. Did some pass shooting and was not very successful until I learned that the lead had to be at least 6' or more. When I doubled the usual lead, I had better luck. Bought a older used single shot 10 gauge 3 1/2 " about a month ago and had the choke modified to LM, Now I hope to reach out and touch some of the ones I could not reach with my 12 gauge 3" pump. Hope my shoulder can take the punishment. Enjoy your vids, keep them coming.
In about 1969 I bought a Stevens 66 with a 25 inch barrel and variable choke it was proofed for 3 inch magnum but kicked like a mule on steroids shot so much with that old gun. Good to see you again always a treat to see a new post from you regards from beautiful North Wales
I outfitted for a goose hunt in Canada 15 years ago. Gun I bought was a Benelli Super Black Eagel II. Ammo was Remington's Heavy Shot in #4 three inch mag. The combination worked great on ducks and geese. Really enjoyed that hunting trip.
Thanks for this, great video. I've been using a 12 and 16 bore M37 on ducks over the last two seasons. Now I have to try and find a 20, which will be super rare in the UK.
@Art Anson thank you! I have a collection of old pumps and autos which if find fascinating. They are easier to buy if they have been permanently restricted to a two shot magazine. There's less interest in these old repeaters over here and they can be found relatively cheaply. My thought is, why buy a cheap new Turkish gun when I can have a Belgian bench-made Auto 5 for half the money!?
@Art Anson Really, l saw hunted mallards & deer meat were sold in markets in the past, when I was young; also I could go hunting. But now I’m at Asia areas, I found Asia people are poor and pitiful, nobody’s allowed to buy any kinds of legal guns & cartridges and hunting, they got prohibited for more than half century. You’re happy & blessed. If it’s possible, help Asia people to get real freedom, let them can buy guns & cartridges for hunting, shooting sports, self defense legally & freely as Americans doing.
Interesting that you lived In Baltimore, I’m right across the Chesapeake Bay on the Eastern Shore , I can stand on my beach and see its lights I started out hunting waterfowl , mostly Canada geese then some ducks, with an old LC Smith, beautiful gun but hard to hit anything, got a Spanish 10 ga double Heavy and handled like a fence post. Next got an Remington 870, liked it. Then got a great deal on a Remington 1100. Really liked it ...when it didn’t jam Then a browning A5 I really dont feel I have to kill a goose or a duck now and I mostly hunt with an antique English Double barrel 20 ga. Flintlock ( Manton). I enjoy it, and more effective then most people probably think
Its like me i like and own all types of guns but i really focus my collection on cowboy action guns and i carry a m&p shield every day i just like old guns they peak my interest
I'm a HUGE 10Ga. Mag Fan. I own the Rem. SP. 10. But bought an Armsport 10 GA. Double with double triggers, cause you can choke the two barrels one for super dull, for long shots, and one for open, in case a turkey pops around a tree at 50 feet. Yea it kicks, but nothing else will give you a 3 Oz. load !!!
I live 45 minutes north east of Baltimore and when I was a kid I have seen the sky Black with thousands of geese but not that many now and they have a short Canadian season w iui th a limit of 1 a day. I have killed 3 with 3 shots in one flock probably 6 times, it usually happens when you dont think about it and are really just relaxed when shooting. I have the Ithaca 10 gauge but use a single shot Steven's 10 gauge now.
Hi Steve - You should get a sash or something "3 in 3 shots...6 times" Hardly anyone I know gets 3 for 3 - or maybe we're all weak shots : ) Bravo to you. The bays in your area were swarming with black ducks and some canvasbacks and everything else - we had a couple of great hunts and then went for crab cakes and such. I still feel the warmth of those good and kind people. Maybe we crossed into Deleware somewhere along the line. I like your change to the Stevens - I still take the big 10 but many times just load 2 shells. I learned that less, is often more. No idea why this comes to mind but it is a pity that the world doesn't meet the great people of America - they are everywhere - not the media and not those competing for power. My Best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns love your channel and you are right, there are very good people in this world and I'm glad that they out number the bad ones still. I been goose hunting for over 40 years now and I hope the good lord willing he gives me another 40.
I bought a Savage pump in 3 1/2" chamber in 12 guage and I have never had a problem shooting birds at long distance with that monster either. I think it has about the same range as your 10 guage but not quite as much shot load. That being said if you can shoot that far with enough practice you wouldn't have a problem taking long range birds. There is one thing about that gun and your 10 gauge they share in common but the autoloader probably doesn't create quite as much shoulder pain. The kick with a 3 1/2" shotgun shell is pretty substantial. I actually let my Uncle have the gun because it's all he wanted to talk about when I saw him. He has used that shotgun for just about everything from waterfoul to deer hunting. I'm glad he has gotten so much use out of it, he is my favorite Uncle and deserves it.
I have a 1956 Winchester Model 12 Heavy Duck 12 Gauge, 38” barrel. Great Gun . Glad to see you had a Model 12 on the table. Winchester, It is Your Hertiage Take care Mike, Rick Mansberger, Patreon Member Redmond Sports Group
I travel to Baltimore every day for work . Never went duck hunting as rabbit season was always priority. Plenty of great 1/2 worn in wingmasters around in pawn shops here, good pickins!!
NOW you're speaking my language Mike! For me, waterfowl hunting is all it. If your going after Canadian geese, come to WI and hunt the Horicon Marsh. The Mississippi River by La Crosse WI. is a great place as well! You probably wouldn't see more "Cans" anyplace else except on the Mississippi. Wild rice grows like crazy out there, and you know the "Cans" love that stuff! That Mag 10 you have is a beauty! I too like the big 10 for large waterfowl. My two fowling pieces consist of an Ithaca 37 12mag, and a Armsport S×S 10mag. I've recently set up my Mec loader for 2 7/8ths 10 gauge loads, only because I love to use that gun so much! Nothing better than to be in a blind on a cold, cloudy, and windy morning! Thanks for the great videos Mike!🦆👍
I have for years had an 870 wingmaster that i got for 100 bucks in a pawn shop. But this week i got my first over under. A 1972 browning leige, it was unfired and like new and i couldnt resist. It has a few features that blew my mind, like if you only fire one barrel and break it it only ejects the spent shell, and a switch to pick which barrel fires first. I have zero buyers remorse lol.
Your mentioning Lake Winnipeg reminded me of the Gimli Glider incident, and how my Chicago Blackhawks cheapness/stupidity caused Bobby Hull to join the Winnipeg Jets of the upstart World Hockey Association. Anyway, to get back on the topic of waterfowling memories I have a couple even though I never really got into it. The first one goes back to when I was in high school. My classmates at the time loved to go duck and goose hunting after school, and that love would lead to the problem of a student trying to bring a shotgun onto a school bus. Of course the bus driver would tell them they couldn't do that, but I always found it interesting how it didn't dawn on my classmates that bringing a shotgun onto a school bus was a bad idea. The other memory I have is my father did a lot of bird hunting back in his college days with a Browning Sweet 16 that he borrowed, and to this day he still grouses once in awhile about how he should have bought that shotgun. Thank you and those behind the scenes for another great video.
I dont know how to private message on here, but I was recently in a gun shop and saw a Savage model 19 NRA target. I have found very little information on them and was curious what you knew about them and what your thoughts about them are. Thank you for your great videos. Stay humble...... its your best trait outside of your extensive knowledge and good taste in firearms
I have a Browning Gold 12 ga semi auto. Very well balanced. It has a 3 inch chamber. The recoil of the 3.5 inch shells I find to harsh and disruptive. I have a nice 20ga s by s with 26 inch bbl. wonderful little gun for upland bird hunting and jump shooting ducks or over decoys. For geese long range with steel T shot at highest velocity loads works.
Those are some beautiful shotguns Thames for the video. Unfortunately I have never been able to go waterfowl hunting maybe someday something I would like to do.
Currently sitting 15 miles south of Delta Marsh waiting for the delivery of a new Super Black Eagle 3. The days of shooting ducks over decoys with a 20ga went away with nontoxic shot.
USOG if you like duck hunting you may like dove hunting if you have not tried that already. I don't do hunting myself, but have gone along with someone that does both dove and duck and I prefer the dove hunting type of environment. The weather is much better since it's usually in September to October (the usual range of hunting) maybe November, and with that we usually have like more family come out to have some fun due to warmer weather. We have like food and drinks before, during and, after the hunt for a lot of the non-hunters there too. The bag limit is quite higher with like 15 doves per day compared to 6 waterfowl per day [and only certain amount of specific species of waterfowl too] in Alabama. With the bag limit being much higher means that there is much more shooting and can easily use and carry gauges like 20 all day long quite effectively. Since you talked about the how duck tastes, dove tastes quite nice (like regular meats) and, can prepare them in many ways. Here's my state's regulations for dove and waterfowl (I believe not officially from the state but good enough): www.outdooralabama.com/seasons-and-bag-limits/mourning-and-white-winged-dove-season www.outdooralabama.com/seasons-and-bag-limits/waterfowl-season
The 16 and 20 gauge you obviously love them. Do you still use them for rabbit and hare or have they been laid up? So they are not suitable for steel or tungsten shot but if you love them is no one offering re barrelling with a modern steel. From an expert who could match the blueing to something that wasn't visually perfect but you could at least take out and use. Is it something you have considered?
Some of the best hunting is here in Canada and specially for waterfowl. If you are looking for a great waterfowl shotgun that wont break the bank I recommend the Winchester SXP Blackshadow. Roughly goes for about $430 here in Canada I can imagine it probably $100 cheaper down in the US.
The Great Lakes are also a good. I hunt off of a smaller lake, Lake St Clair. It is always good fun. I've never been let down by my Benellis. I am HUGE fans of the entire Beretta family of shotguns.
Every goose, turkey, and duck I've shot was with New England single shot 10 gauge, that I would borrow from a Co worker. I loved that 10 gauge, but I don't believe they're produced anymore. I know many say that a 12 gauge is more than sufficient, but for that little bit of extra range, the 10 Guage is a beast
It's all about the forcing cone in a shotgun when using steel shot, A 10 gauge can be the most effective shot going out their with a little barrel work whether using lead or steel. And obviously composite shot works even better.
Some of my most memorable goose hunts here in Alberta I was shooting a Ithaca 37 in 12 ga . That gun was so perfect for me I killed a lot of big Canadas with a that and hand loaded shells. It’s was borrowed and eventually I had to surrender it. Bought a 870 after that and it was good but nowhere close to the old 37.
It surprises me that you didn't pull out a bolt-action shotgun. ;) I'm not sure how it is at your side of the puddle. But on our side, they often seem to pop up in droves on collector fairs. Not only purpose made ones, but also rebored/barreled surplus army rifles.
Man you got spoiled if you went out to the mid west. I'm more east, and it's decent, but not like out there. I hear they've allowed cranes now too. And Canada geese? We have so ,any in town it's driving me crazy we can't eat them. They make a total mess of everything. So how's the kick on that 10 gauge? It looks intimidating, but I have to admit, I kinda like the heavy recoil.
Duck hunting can be exceptionally fun with the right guns and conditions. I used to like hunting from a canoe the best. Floating down the creek in a nonmotorized craft and coming up on some ducks. They take off flying away from you and you can drop them as they take air. a going away up the back shot is about the easiest shot on a duck and it kills with one shot. When steel shot was a new idea and everyone was trying to figure out how favorite guns would handle this shot, the canoe became my favorite way to hunt waterfowl. As I came to understand more about how shot stacks in the choke, shot deformation and shot pattern at different distances I adapted to new guns. What happens to shot between the shell and the end of the barrel might be a great video subject and may help some folks understand barrel length and chokes a little better. One of my best friends found a Browning BPS 10 gauge to be his favorite medicine for waterfowl after steel shot became mandatory. It was a pretty gun and was bottom eject like the Ithaca. Looking back I think wing shooting of some kind or small game hunting maybe some of my best memories with friends.
Me too - wish they could bottle that. Sitting in a dug blind near Kindersley one year there were so many geese we just set the guns down for awhile and watched in awe. The fellows in the far blind did the same thing - it was an unforgettable time. Beautiful province; amazing people.
Waterfowling in Canada is great any where. Yes, the birds some from the Far North. Not real hard to figure out when you live in the North. Amazing the birds go that far to propagate.
I believe you! I was told by another viewer that his late friend fired one as well. : ) I knew a fellow by the name of John Millar - who built a 4 bore double from scratch. John is a meticulous genius and it took years - but he did it! Us gun people are a little different : )
Hi Robbie - No matter how much they invest the 12 has a much longer shot column and by definition can't deliver shot pellets at the same time on target - or not as close together as the ten. Theoretically one could load a .410 with 2 ounces of shot - but that would be a many yards long noodle of a shot column. Hope this makes sense.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns it does and i appreciate your response. Thanks again for the a+ content! Would love to see a whole video on the 10 if you haven’t already made one
The first steel shotgun shells were terrible. I discovered the 10 Gauge guns with bb’s were big medicine 20 or so years ago. Now a 20 Gauge with tungsten will outshoot a 10 with steel.
Hi John - United States of Guns - and not just the USA - all states that allow their citizens to own guns - are the United States of Guns - a definition of freedom I like to think. : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns The only one way is migrate to USA; otherwise Asia good people can’t be allowed to buy legal guns & cartridges in their country/area; prohibited more than half century, no real democracy, freedom and human right at all; many people still under dictatorial & totalitarian ruling; very strict & unreasonable and severe punishment laws still exists.
Just breasted my first 2 large birds: 2 nice Canadian geese last week which were given to me by a friend. Only one 'BB steel shot projectile' fell out..with none in those beautiful breasts punctured or bruised (prepared magnificently by the way) I won't complain about the fact that my buddy doesn't like to eat geese! Haven't eaten those yet Mike. How do you think those will compare to the birds I purchased in the Commissary while on my second assignment to Germany. I can actually make wild rabbit even better than the domestic ones I've had over there. Hopefully, this first run with the geese will be even better! Snow geese will hopefully be my next sample!
them over unders are a staple here in the uk, near my grandparents every sunday i see a bunch of older gentleman heading over to shoot clays with they're old over unders shotguns over their shoulders wearing tweed suits and everything
Hey Roman - An old timer I met on a saltwater marsh shore with a silver-gray Model 12 told me "hunting brings us home." I think that is about right. Elemental and true - I hope you get to hunt soon - there is a clarity to it that I've found no where else. God Bless.
@@UnitedStatesOfGunsHeey, Chances are there is a wsiting list but i'll just apply again. It's so much more than hunting, conservation and knowledge about different areas, preparing your prey. Training your dog to fetch it. And one of the nicest things is you find an older seasoned hunter as a mentor. To share the area with to later on take his place and become the mentor yourself. I can imagine. I am a natureperson myself. And when graduated i can hunt in other parts of the world too. But i'm no youngster anymore. 47, but a crackshot. Thanks for the reply and the video's! Always learning something. Take care and God bless. :))
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns "... by the river I saw a few things : )" Oh, you mean the occasional tree. Yes, they have those in Saskatchewan. Not many but they're there if you look for them. 🤣🤣🤣
Mike, my favorite hunting of all time is duck hunting down here in Louisiana. I’ve been lots of other places too. I tried to buy an Ithaca Mag 10 when they first came out but nobody down here could find me one. I eventually bought a Remington 1100 12 magnum and it did fine until the advent of mandatory steel shot. Now I shoot a Remington 870 super magnum in 12 gauge. I love the old guns and the lore of duck hunting. It will always appeal to my fancy!
8:10 I call it Splat ! splat ! splat ! makes you work on the wing shot ! as well as BB's with Magnum shells, lol.
Thanks for bringing back some Memories !
I cracked up the moment you brought up that Mag10 onto the camera.
What a monster.
Love your wonderful shows! They are so full of valuable information and personal enlightment. I can be tired after a hard days work and watch your show an feel so fulfilled and relaxed, alot like reminiscing a past hunt that I had forgotten. Thanks for your time!
The opening images with the old-school graphics itself are a beauty to start with,, so calm & classic ❤️
Just something about old shotguns....hard to part with. And parts /accessories. I have been collecting old shotshells that look good next to a vintage favorite. Brass shells for trench guns...and those beautiful old Peters boxes. Found a Colt bore gauge. Left hand safety for my M12. Old 870 stock, duck stamps,etc. Man,waterfowl guns have changed for today. Most are synthetic camo semi autos,with all sorts of neat modern improvements. I have to admit, I mostly carry a modded Benelli these days, because it was built for reduced recoil.Doesn't beat an old man up so hard. Thanks once again for your great videos.
My '56 A5 does just fine...
Wow what a great description of the hunting grounds and that too with so much modesty. Speaks of the class of the hunter !
Kent Ammunition makes a 16 ga tungsten matrix shell that works well for ducks and is safe through the older guns. I use it in my Stevens 315.
nobody does it better. there a lots of reviews of newer guns, and that's just great. a look at these old gems makes the mouth water. nobody can own everything they want, but being given a view is the next best thing.
obviously your channel is much appreciated.
Thank you Greg - I appreciate you being here just as much.
Hey Mike. I used Baikal 12G O&U shotguns to shoot Clay`s in the late 80`s. They were solid, well made shotguns. My friend said to me, that if they had any other Brand name, they would cost twice as much. Well made guns and a joy to shoot. Keep safe Mike.
Thank you for sharing some good unbiased old-school advice. "Like sand falling on paper", that is poetry my friend.
Thank you Richard!
My grandfather had a tremor and shot all game with his Browning shotguns in Southern Georgia- Sweet 16, A5 2 3/4 Mod choke and another A5 Magnum full. He was also a deputy sheriff 1940-70 and what amazed me when he shot his 38 Special, always S&W cause Colt doesn’t hit them as hard LOL he would say, the tremors stopped as he locked in and he could thread a needle with those old lead 158 Grain (?) bullets. Love following you and your hobby. Different weapons bring up lots of great memories. Thanks much!
Lovely trip down memory lane it's great that you show people affordable guns as a young man in the 1960's I could not afford much on an apprentice wage so I bought a savage stevens 77h with a 25 inch barrel and an adjustable choke my goodness I used it for everything and loved it it threw as much shot out the front as any other gun thanks again Mike so enjoyable regards as always
USOG is the new gun god, thanks for sharing
The Mag 10 is one of the best 10 gauge auto loading shotguns ever produced. They are built like a tank. I had always been afraid to shoot steel through mine, in fear of messing up the barrel, being an early model, so, I have just shot lead loads through it. it's Good to know that it will handle steel without damage. I am also a fan of the other shotguns you had on the table in this video.
Started shooting snow geese only this year. I retired near Canora , Sask. Did some pass shooting and was not very successful until I learned that the lead had to be at least 6' or more. When I doubled the usual lead, I had better luck. Bought a older used single shot 10 gauge 3 1/2 " about a month ago and had the choke modified to LM, Now I hope to reach out and touch some of the ones I could not reach with my 12 gauge 3" pump. Hope my shoulder can take the punishment. Enjoy your vids, keep them coming.
In about 1969 I bought a Stevens 66 with a 25 inch barrel and variable choke it was proofed for 3 inch magnum but kicked like a mule on steroids shot so much with that old gun. Good to see you again always a treat to see a new post from you regards from beautiful North Wales
I outfitted for a goose hunt in Canada 15 years ago. Gun I bought was a Benelli Super Black Eagel II. Ammo was Remington's Heavy Shot in #4 three inch mag. The combination worked great on ducks and geese. Really enjoyed that hunting trip.
Thanks for this, great video. I've been using a 12 and 16 bore M37 on ducks over the last two seasons. Now I have to try and find a 20, which will be super rare in the UK.
@Art Anson thank you! I have a collection of old pumps and autos which if find fascinating. They are easier to buy if they have been permanently restricted to a two shot magazine. There's less interest in these old repeaters over here and they can be found relatively cheaply. My thought is, why buy a cheap new Turkish gun when I can have a Belgian bench-made Auto 5 for half the money!?
@Art Anson Really, l saw hunted mallards & deer meat were sold in markets in the past, when I was young; also I could go hunting. But now I’m at Asia areas, I found Asia people are poor and pitiful, nobody’s allowed to buy any kinds of legal guns & cartridges and hunting, they got prohibited for more than half century. You’re happy & blessed. If it’s possible, help Asia people to get real freedom, let them can buy guns & cartridges for hunting, shooting sports, self defense legally & freely as Americans doing.
Interesting that you lived In Baltimore, I’m right across the Chesapeake Bay on the Eastern Shore , I can stand on my beach and see its lights
I started out hunting waterfowl , mostly Canada geese then some ducks, with an old LC Smith, beautiful gun but hard to hit anything, got a Spanish 10 ga double
Heavy and handled like a fence post.
Next got an Remington 870, liked it. Then got a great deal on a Remington 1100. Really liked it ...when it didn’t jam
Then a browning A5
I really dont feel I have to kill a goose or a duck now and I mostly hunt with an antique English Double barrel 20 ga. Flintlock ( Manton). I enjoy it, and more effective then most people probably think
Its like me i like and own all types of guns but i really focus my collection on cowboy action guns and i carry a m&p shield every day i just like old guns they peak my interest
Thanks for another great video...
I'm a HUGE 10Ga. Mag Fan. I own the Rem. SP. 10. But bought an Armsport 10 GA. Double with double triggers, cause you can choke the two barrels one for super dull, for long shots, and one for open, in case a turkey pops around a tree at 50 feet. Yea it kicks, but nothing else will give you a 3 Oz. load !!!
I live 45 minutes north east of Baltimore and when I was a kid I have seen the sky Black with thousands of geese but not that many now and they have a short Canadian season w iui th a limit of 1 a day. I have killed 3 with 3 shots in one flock probably 6 times, it usually happens when you dont think about it and are really just relaxed when shooting. I have the Ithaca 10 gauge but use a single shot Steven's 10 gauge now.
Hi Steve - You should get a sash or something "3 in 3 shots...6 times" Hardly anyone I know gets 3 for 3 - or maybe we're all weak shots : ) Bravo to you. The bays in your area were swarming with black ducks and some canvasbacks and everything else - we had a couple of great hunts and then went for crab cakes and such. I still feel the warmth of those good and kind people. Maybe we crossed into Deleware somewhere along the line. I like your change to the Stevens - I still take the big 10 but many times just load 2 shells. I learned that less, is often more. No idea why this comes to mind but it is a pity that the world doesn't meet the great people of America - they are everywhere - not the media and not those competing for power. My Best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns love your channel and you are right, there are very good people in this world and I'm glad that they out number the bad ones still. I been goose hunting for over 40 years now and I hope the good lord willing he gives me another 40.
I bought a Savage pump in 3 1/2" chamber in 12 guage and I have never had a problem shooting birds at long distance with that monster either. I think it has about the same range as your 10 guage but not quite as much shot load. That being said if you can shoot that far with enough practice you wouldn't have a problem taking long range birds. There is one thing about that gun and your 10 gauge they share in common but the autoloader probably doesn't create quite as much shoulder pain. The kick with a 3 1/2" shotgun shell is pretty substantial. I actually let my Uncle have the gun because it's all he wanted to talk about when I saw him. He has used that shotgun for just about everything from waterfoul to deer hunting. I'm glad he has gotten so much use out of it, he is my favorite Uncle and deserves it.
I have a 1956 Winchester Model 12 Heavy Duck 12 Gauge, 38” barrel. Great Gun . Glad to see you had a Model 12 on the table.
Winchester, It is Your Hertiage
Take care Mike,
Rick Mansberger, Patreon Member
Redmond Sports Group
I travel to Baltimore every day for work . Never went duck hunting as rabbit season was always priority. Plenty of great 1/2 worn in wingmasters around in pawn shops here, good pickins!!
Thank you sir
I'd love to have one of those 10G semi autos for fox hunting.
NOW you're speaking my language Mike! For me, waterfowl hunting is all it. If your going after Canadian geese, come to WI and hunt the Horicon Marsh. The Mississippi River by La Crosse WI. is a great place as well! You probably wouldn't see more "Cans" anyplace else except on the Mississippi. Wild rice grows like crazy out there, and you know the "Cans" love that stuff!
That Mag 10 you have is a beauty! I too like the big 10 for large waterfowl. My two fowling pieces consist of an Ithaca 37 12mag, and a Armsport S×S 10mag. I've recently set up my Mec loader for 2 7/8ths 10 gauge loads, only because I love to use that gun so much!
Nothing better than to be in a blind on a cold, cloudy, and windy morning! Thanks for the great videos Mike!🦆👍
Mike, Have you ever done a video on the Remington Model 11-48?
I have for years had an 870 wingmaster that i got for 100 bucks in a pawn shop. But this week i got my first over under. A 1972 browning leige, it was unfired and like new and i couldnt resist. It has a few features that blew my mind, like if you only fire one barrel and break it it only ejects the spent shell, and a switch to pick which barrel fires first. I have zero buyers remorse lol.
Your mentioning Lake Winnipeg reminded me of the Gimli Glider incident, and how my Chicago Blackhawks cheapness/stupidity caused Bobby Hull to join the Winnipeg Jets of the upstart World Hockey Association.
Anyway, to get back on the topic of waterfowling memories I have a couple even though I never really got into it. The first one goes back to when I was in high school. My classmates at the time loved to go duck and goose hunting after school, and that love would lead to the problem of a student trying to bring a shotgun onto a school bus. Of course the bus driver would tell them they couldn't do that, but I always found it interesting how it didn't dawn on my classmates that bringing a shotgun onto a school bus was a bad idea. The other memory I have is my father did a lot of bird hunting back in his college days with a Browning Sweet 16 that he borrowed, and to this day he still grouses once in awhile about how he should have bought that shotgun.
Thank you and those behind the scenes for another great video.
I dont know how to private message on here, but I was recently in a gun shop and saw a Savage model 19 NRA target. I have found very little information on them and was curious what you knew about them and what your thoughts about them are.
Thank you for your great videos. Stay humble...... its your best trait outside of your extensive knowledge and good taste in firearms
Canada is a hunter’s paradise. Great video.
I have a Browning Gold 12 ga semi auto. Very well balanced. It has a 3 inch chamber. The recoil of the 3.5 inch shells I find to harsh and disruptive. I have a nice 20ga s by s with 26 inch bbl. wonderful little gun for upland bird hunting and jump shooting ducks or over decoys. For geese long range with steel T shot at highest velocity loads works.
Those are some beautiful shotguns Thames for the video. Unfortunately I have never been able to go waterfowl hunting maybe someday something I would like to do.
Hi Flint - Hope you do - surprising and memorable; and some of the best eating : ) All the best!
Art Anson Thanks for all that information I will be looking lento that , hunting season is here and time to get ready .
Currently sitting 15 miles south of Delta Marsh waiting for the delivery of a new Super Black Eagle 3. The days of shooting ducks over decoys with a 20ga went away with nontoxic shot.
USOG if you like duck hunting you may like dove hunting if you have not tried that already. I don't do hunting myself, but have gone along with someone that does both dove and duck and I prefer the dove hunting type of environment.
The weather is much better since it's usually in September to October (the usual range of hunting) maybe November, and with that we usually have like more family come out to have some fun due to warmer weather. We have like food and drinks before, during and, after the hunt for a lot of the non-hunters there too. The bag limit is quite higher with like 15 doves per day compared to 6 waterfowl per day [and only certain amount of specific species of waterfowl too] in Alabama. With the bag limit being much higher means that there is much more shooting and can easily use and carry gauges like 20 all day long quite effectively. Since you talked about the how duck tastes, dove tastes quite nice (like regular meats) and, can prepare them in many ways.
Here's my state's regulations for dove and waterfowl (I believe not officially from the state but good enough):
www.outdooralabama.com/seasons-and-bag-limits/mourning-and-white-winged-dove-season
www.outdooralabama.com/seasons-and-bag-limits/waterfowl-season
Very cool to hear of Saskatchewan from you. It’s my province! I farm here
How does that buffalo classic behind you shoot?
The 16 and 20 gauge you obviously love them. Do you still use them for rabbit and hare or have they been laid up?
So they are not suitable for steel or tungsten shot but if you love them is no one offering re barrelling with a modern steel. From an expert who could match the blueing to something that wasn't visually perfect but you could at least take out and use. Is it something you have considered?
Some of the best times I had hunting were for duck and geese. Both on water and in fields with lay down blinds. Havnt done it for years though.
Such a great time - waterfowling in marsh or field...fantastic!
Salut from France...Always great stuff
Some of the best hunting is here in Canada and specially for waterfowl. If you are looking for a great waterfowl shotgun that wont break the bank I recommend the Winchester SXP Blackshadow. Roughly goes for about $430 here in Canada I can imagine it probably $100 cheaper down in the US.
What about shotgun slugs for deer (only hunt deer once a year). Which might perform within 70 yards? Thanks!
Very cool. Can’t go wrong with Mag 10.
They are amazing.
Hey USOG, I was wondering if you had ever done a video on the Winchester model 21? I recently read up on it and it seems to be fascinating!
As usual, great videos.
The Great Lakes are also a good. I hunt off of a smaller lake, Lake St Clair. It is always good fun. I've never been let down by my Benellis. I am HUGE fans of the entire Beretta family of shotguns.
Every goose, turkey, and duck I've shot was with New England single shot 10 gauge, that I would borrow from a Co worker. I loved that 10 gauge, but I don't believe they're produced anymore. I know many say that a 12 gauge is more than sufficient, but for that little bit of extra range, the 10 Guage is a beast
That's a mighty gun - the big 10 single...hard to find now.
It's all about the forcing cone in a shotgun when using steel shot, A 10 gauge can be the most effective shot going out their with a little barrel work whether using lead or steel. And obviously composite shot works even better.
Hi Joel - I don't know much about composite shot - I'll have to learn. Thanks for mentioning.
Some of my most memorable goose hunts here in Alberta I was shooting a Ithaca 37 in 12 ga . That gun was so perfect for me I killed a lot of big Canadas with a that and hand loaded shells. It’s was borrowed and eventually I had to surrender it. Bought a 870 after that and it was good but nowhere close to the old 37.
It surprises me that you didn't pull out a bolt-action shotgun. ;)
I'm not sure how it is at your side of the puddle. But on our side, they often seem to pop up in droves on collector fairs. Not only purpose made ones, but also rebored/barreled surplus army rifles.
Love the SbS it’s good being the look out for 1 of the remetns
Man you got spoiled if you went out to the mid west. I'm more east, and it's decent, but not like out there. I hear they've allowed cranes now too. And Canada geese? We have so ,any in town it's driving me crazy we can't eat them. They make a total mess of everything.
So how's the kick on that 10 gauge? It looks intimidating, but I have to admit, I kinda like the heavy recoil.
Duck hunting can be exceptionally fun with the right guns and conditions. I used to like hunting from a canoe the best. Floating down the creek in a nonmotorized craft and coming up on some ducks. They take off flying away from you and you can drop them as they take air. a going away up the back shot is about the easiest shot on a duck and it kills with one shot. When steel shot was a new idea and everyone was trying to figure out how favorite guns would handle this shot, the canoe became my favorite way to hunt waterfowl. As I came to understand more about how shot stacks in the choke, shot deformation and shot pattern at different distances I adapted to new guns. What happens to shot between the shell and the end of the barrel might be a great video subject and may help some folks understand barrel length and chokes a little better. One of my best friends found a Browning BPS 10 gauge to be his favorite medicine for waterfowl after steel shot became mandatory. It was a pretty gun and was bottom eject like the Ithaca. Looking back I think wing shooting of some kind or small game hunting maybe some of my best memories with friends.
Ithaca seems like it was such a great Arms company. Supposedly they are re-established under new ownership? Cool stuff.
Love the smell of spent shells on a cool Sask morning 👍
Me too - wish they could bottle that. Sitting in a dug blind near Kindersley one year there were so many geese we just set the guns down for awhile and watched in awe. The fellows in the far blind did the same thing - it was an unforgettable time. Beautiful province; amazing people.
Well pretty good place to live if u like hunting and fishing
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Waterfowling in Canada is great any where. Yes, the birds some from the Far North. Not real hard to figure out when you live in the North. Amazing the birds go that far to propagate.
The flyway that goes over my city, Ottawa Canada, has more than 3 million Canada Geese fly through every year.
Wonderful shot guns.....
Thanks Daryl
New subscriber ...your videos are great !
Welcome on board Bob! We need you - glad you are here.
He is a real good bloke love to go hunting with him.
Great video.
One guy used to work with, claimed he shot a real old 4 gauge before. Yes wrote it out right 4 gauge.
I believe you! I was told by another viewer that his late friend fired one as well. : ) I knew a fellow by the name of John Millar - who built a 4 bore double from scratch. John is a meticulous genius and it took years - but he did it! Us gun people are a little different : )
Old ithica shotguns are the best
That's a good statement - clear and strong.
Good video thanks
I have a mag 10 ....all I can say is wow.
Hi Jeffrey - Not many have these - good on you!
Just got a shotgun my grandpa bought for 50 bucks used. Mossberg 500 been sitting in his safe since 1975. The shotgun is a 1970
Hi Tylar - The Mossberg is a tank - as you know - milspec too; what a great shotgun. I'm glad you have one of the best!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns me to. Love all you're gun videos
Guys tell me that the 3.5 12 surpasses the 10ga due to the fact that they aren’t investing in ammo tech for the 10.. you disagree?
Hi Robbie - No matter how much they invest the 12 has a much longer shot column and by definition can't deliver shot pellets at the same time on target - or not as close together as the ten. Theoretically one could load a .410 with 2 ounces of shot - but that would be a many yards long noodle of a shot column. Hope this makes sense.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns it does and i appreciate your response. Thanks again for the a+ content! Would love to see a whole video on the 10 if you haven’t already made one
Vepr-12
The first steel shotgun shells were terrible. I discovered the 10 Gauge guns with bb’s were big medicine 20 or so years ago. Now a 20 Gauge with tungsten will outshoot a 10 with steel.
Are you sure those are big enough? Maybe flak guns would do better?
We have ducks near a pond at work, if shtf I'm going to eat duck
Mike- the elephant In the room is, what does USOG stand for?
Hi John - United States of Guns - and not just the USA - all states that allow their citizens to own guns - are the United States of Guns - a definition of freedom I like to think. : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns The only one way is migrate to USA; otherwise Asia good people can’t be allowed to buy legal guns & cartridges in their country/area; prohibited more than half century, no real democracy, freedom and human right at all; many people still under dictatorial & totalitarian ruling; very strict & unreasonable and severe punishment laws still exists.
Just breasted my first 2 large birds: 2 nice Canadian geese last week which were given to me by a friend. Only one 'BB steel shot projectile' fell out..with none in those beautiful breasts punctured or bruised (prepared magnificently by the way) I won't complain about the fact that my buddy doesn't like to eat geese! Haven't eaten those yet Mike. How do you think those will compare to the birds I purchased in the Commissary while on my second assignment to Germany. I can actually make wild rabbit even better than the domestic ones I've had over there. Hopefully, this first run with the geese will be even better! Snow geese will hopefully be my next sample!
them over unders are a staple here in the uk, near my grandparents every sunday i see a bunch of older gentleman heading over to shoot clays with they're old over unders shotguns over their shoulders wearing tweed suits and everything
High fast geese use a 8 bore
I want to become a hunter in my country. When i pass a dog is mandatory too. :))
Hey Roman - An old timer I met on a saltwater marsh shore with a silver-gray Model 12 told me "hunting brings us home." I think that is about right. Elemental and true - I hope you get to hunt soon - there is a clarity to it that I've found no where else. God Bless.
@@UnitedStatesOfGunsHeey,
Chances are there is a wsiting list but i'll just apply again. It's so much more than hunting, conservation and knowledge about different areas, preparing your prey. Training your dog to fetch it. And one of the nicest things is you find an older seasoned hunter as a mentor. To share the area with to later on take his place and become the mentor yourself.
I can imagine. I am a natureperson myself. And when graduated i can hunt in other parts of the world too.
But i'm no youngster anymore.
47, but a crackshot.
Thanks for the reply and the video's!
Always learning something.
Take care and God bless.
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Can you do one on rabbit guns. You swewy wabbit. Hahahahahahaha. Just kidding. lol
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If you love hunting geese in Saskatchewan, stay away from the town of Leader. No birds. No geese. Nothing. Waste of time. Try somewhere else.
Hi Stephen - I remember Leader - there was a great game processing shop; by the river I saw a few things : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns "... by the river I saw a few things : )"
Oh, you mean the occasional tree. Yes, they have those in Saskatchewan. Not many but they're there if you look for them. 🤣🤣🤣