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It’s not Bad Christianity, Bad Judaism, or Bad Buddhism....
It’s Bad Religion.
really? i don't remember the part about the american buddha or mohammed
So Damn Metal .... yeah.... and Muslims and Buddhists don’t claim America was founded in the name of Mohammad or Buddha....my point is that it’s not “Religion is bad”..... it’s “Bad Religion” witch many evangelicals (extremists) are practicing and pushing on others while ignoring the basic fundamentals their religions are supposedly teaching them.
@@SoDamnMetal Muslims and Buddists are a minority in the US. Just like in Europe. You might be sarcastic and say "wait another 10-20 years". But the USA, just like Europe, are based on Christianity (American politicians swear on the bible, don't they?), so it's only fair to pick the main religion and critisize the bad parts.
EXACTLY!!
@@dr.phibesinred6066 if you read the constitution, America was not build on Chrstianity. The founders fled Europe because of Religious doctrines putting on people from the government. It's sad what America has become these days. People like Jefferson would freak out if they stand up and see this...
Opened up for them in ‘85. I was 16 yrs old. Was the best day of my life. Couldn’t have been nicer guys. The bassist laughed at me bass amp, and offered his bass amp for me to use. As long as we let their drummer use our drummers cymbals. It worked out.
Jay Bentley? Dude is my hero.
cap
Got to open for them too for a handful of dates around the Midwest. Much more recently. Along with Stiff Little Fingers and The Offspring filling out the bill.
I was in punk band that opened for them in '89. Their bass player gave me. a No Control cassette that I have to this day.
DIY.
The song is about George Bush Sr stating that 'Jesus was on the side of America' during the Gulf war. So Jesus loves America more than another country, which the rest of the world found amusing, to the American mindset about themselves.
Crooked Souls I actually didn’t know that, thanks 👍🏻
I think a lot of Europe probably remembered another guy, some time ago, saying something similar. But his exact words were "Gott mitt uns"
Not what the guy who wrote it has said about it, but to each their own I guess.
@@davebcf1231 Lead singer Greg Graffin and guitarist Brett Gurewitz wrote the song in response to US President George H. W. Bush's comment that the US would win the Gulf War (the first one) because God is on their side. It's pretty much a satirical view on the general American thought that the United States is the most powerful nation in the world because it is "One nation under God." www.songfacts.com/facts/bad-religion/american-jesus
@@crookedsouls lol songfacts. I'll take interviews with them over that. No citation or anything. Just someone's interpretation. Even one guy in the comments saying Vedder may have sang on it to spite Repubs. Graffin responded to something similar on Rock Feed's Wikipedia: fact or fiction. He said Vedder sang on that album because he was a big fan. Pearl Jam wasn't famous yet and Graffin ran into Vedder and asked him if he wanted to sing some backing vocals and a feature for the album. He jumped at the chance since he was a fan. There was nothing more to it than that.
The truly intelligent discussion that unfurled after watching their faces react to the song was completely unexpected and wholly welcomed! That was fantastic.
Agreed! I watched this blind and know many self identified Christian's who take personal offence to this with seeing context! Very open minded, thought out comments, great vid!
@@marvelmite1 I believe Gregg Graffin has said he regrets using the Cross Buster as their symbol (and maybe even calling themselves Bad Religion) because it turns people off without hearing their music. While they're clearly not huge supporters of organized religion, they don't spend nearly as much time attacking religion as the band name/symbol would suggest.
Jesse Gifford too true. I saw an early interview where Greg said Jay or Brett (can’t remember) showed him the design and was just impressed at how offensive it was, without connotations, and that’s punk!
@@threeinacoinofficial2900 Yep, plus the guys were like ... 15? When they chose that logo haha, very different set of values and motives from a more adult critic of religion
I feel the same way. Very satisfying to see this song resonate here.
If all Christians were as nonjudgmental and open minded as these two the world would be a better place.
And all other religions
Bad Religion is the thinking man's punk band. The lead singer is a professor at Cornell. I love this band!
AMERICAN JESUS
I don't need to be a global citizen
'Cause I'm blessed by nationality
I'm a member of a growing populace
We enforce our popularity
There are things that seem to pull us under and
There are things that drag us down
But there's a power and a vital presence
It's lurking all around
We've got the American Jesus
See him on the interstate
We've got the American Jesus
He helped build the president's estate
I feel sorry for the earth's population
'Cause so few live in the USA
At least the foreigners can copy our morality
They can visit but they cannot stay
Only precious few can garner our prosperity
It makes us walk with renewed confidence
We got a place to go when we die
And the architect resides right here
We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith
We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day
He's the farmer's barren fields, the force the army wields
Expressions on the faces of the starving millions
The power of the man, the fuel that drives the klan
He's the motive and the conscience of the murderer
He's the preacher on TV, the false sincerity
The form letter that's written by the big computers
The nuclear bombs, the kids with no moms
And I'm fearful that he's inside me
(In god we trust
Because he's one of us
Break down, cave in
He can redeem your sin
Strong heart, clear mind
And infinitely kind
You lose, we win
He is our champion)
We've got the American Jesus
See him on the interstate
We've got the American Jesus
Exercising his authority
We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith
We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day
One nation, under God
One nation, under God
One nation, under God
One nation, under God
Have you listened to "Stiff Little Fingers"?
100% Absolutely! Bad Religion is amazing and always will be. They make you think. The world needs more of this type of music. Greg, Jay, Brett and the guys are amazing.
There is a lot of “thinking man’s punk bands”
PHD so doesn't that make him Dr. Graffin?
There's a reason their vocalist is currently a professor at Cornel with multiple PhDs. He's a smart guy, and that comes through in his music. Glad you guys understood it and liked it.
Now your tapping into my youth, nice choice. Intelligent, real dudes , not attacking followers of gospel but the false politics in the name of religion.
That moment when you realize that punk rock bands telling you the truth, even when it hurts. Thats why i'm listining this stuff since 30 years. You have to react to Dead Kennedys 'California über alles'. Greetings from Germany.
Moin Nils schätze wir sind ziemlich die gleiche Generation... einfach mal nen schönen Gruß. Immer schön auf Leute mit Geschmack zu treffen... ich find aber die we have got a bigger Problem version noch besser... jazziger.. egal kennedys sind groß
DEAD KENNEDYS!!!
Same here, and as I get older, this whole album becomes more true and way more meaningful. It's also extremely disappointing that after 25+ years, nothing has changed.
@@antimatter2380 Yeah, sad but true. As my mother use to say: With every train comes a dumbass in to Town...😉
Greetings my friend. Remember Iron Front.
Those 3:06 - 3:10 faces say everything without a single word spoken LOL
lol
Punk-slapped. ....
Agreed. This is what happens when the mind is thinking, challenged, and blown away. Most of the metal they listen does not have this effect.
You'd think, but it's really easy to assume they'll react differently than they did
One looks frustrated with the lyrics and the other is scared and intrigued at the same time
The weird but awesome thing about Bad Religion is they have both non-believers and Believers as fans of their music
I'm in the middle!
@@trumphatesyou some people are
I’m considered a believer and I’ve been listening to them since middle school…2000-2002. I don’t agree with their politics or other nonsense but shit I’ll still listen to them.
@@andrewheitmeyer9945 I guess you're of the minority
These guys are hands down my favourite punk band. Greg is a genius when it comes to his lyrics.
The new album is really good. :)
Same been listening to them for like 9-10 years. I love the new album too
Mr Brett
Most punk and ska music is political! Punk rock is my religion
Also bush said "we will win because God is on our side". -american jesus
God Song
Atheist Peace
God's Love
Come Join Us
Epiphany
Seriously, you could do Bad Religion for a month and be blown away everytime by their lyrics and music. Even their first album when they were merely teenagers have some very clever pokes at religion. Also, Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam sang backup on this song.
Yes! He sang back up vocals in American Jesus and he sings the second verse in Watch it die. Eddie is a self-proclaimed BIG fan of Bad Religion :) .
The look on Vin’s face was worth the whole video. This is a great song that more Christian’s need to listen to....or relate to.
AMERICAN JESUS
I don't need to be a global citizen
'Cause I'm blessed by nationality
I'm a member of a growing populace
We enforce our popularity
There are things that seem to pull us under and
There are things that drag us down
But there's a power and a vital presence
It's lurking all around
We've got the American Jesus
See him on the interstate
We've got the American Jesus
He helped build the president's estate
I feel sorry for the earth's population
'Cause so few live in the USA
At least the foreigners can copy our morality
They can visit but they cannot stay
Only precious few can garner our prosperity
It makes us walk with renewed confidence
We got a place to go when we die
And the architect resides right here
We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith
We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day
He's the farmer's barren fields, the force the army wields
Expressions on the faces of the starving millions
The power of the man, the fuel that drives the klan
He's the motive and the conscience of the murderer
He's the preacher on TV, the false sincerity
The form letter that's written by the big computers
The nuclear bombs, the kids with no moms
And I'm fearful that he's inside me
(In god we trust
Because he's one of us
Break down, cave in
He can redeem your sin
Strong heart, clear mind
And infinitely kind
You lose, we win
He is our champion)
We've got the American Jesus
See him on the interstate
We've got the American Jesus
Exercising his authority
We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith
We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day
One nation, under God
One nation, under God
One nation, under God
One nation, under God
@@seelenwinter6662 don't f with greg g!
I love Bad Religion and I was anticipating a different reaction but you guys showed a lot of understanding and respect to a band that helped shape my life. Good job .
Bad Religion - Sorrow
Make the punk week a punk month.
Yep, Sorrow is one of my most favorite Bad Religion songs.
Sorrow is an amazingly good song.
I am today 46, been into BR since the mid 80's (edit: 1990 "Against the grain" is more true), and saw them for the first and last time in Gothenburg, Sweden, summer 17. Going to Madrid, Spain, next week and will see them again. I will be waiting for that song cause it is beyond and without a question one of the strongest they have written (amongst sooo many)
xSergioRottenx Especially with the major biblical references throughout, it would be fun.
I was so proud when my 4 year old was singing along with Sorrow a couple years ago. This band is amazing!
Great video you two. This was the first video of yours I've seen. I really appreciate that you came into it with an open mind and actually listened to what the band was saying; opposed to just calling it blasphemy and moving on.
Check out Greg Graffin, singer. Very clever guy. Pretty good solo Career too.
Low Bow didn’t know he had solo records
"American Lesson" is a great album by Graffin.
@@argentrader "American Lesion"
Bad Religion Songs
21st Century Digital Boy
I Want to Conquer the World
Generator
Suffer, Sanity, you are the government, land of competition, we are only gonna die from our own arrogance, how much is enough..... and so on
The god song and operation rescue, bad religion rules
Los Angeles is burning, sorrow
Cease
if I put my favorite songs here, will not fit in the comments lol
I appreciate both your genuine conversation about this song and the topic at hand. I remember being in Jr High when we invaded Kuwait. And at the same time, I was discovering Bad Religion and was inspired by their thought-provoking lyrics. I always believe that they were true to their nature of a Punk Band, by questioning those things that we take for granted as "truth" or "Belief".
Finally, Vin was TRIGGERED!
I was ready to get really mad when they took the headphones off, but they both are reasonable and they both understand what he was saying with American Jesus. Thank lawd.
Greg wrote a book together with a priest. It's kinda interesting.
Have you thought about the universe?
How did it make you feel?
@@Weeks340 I’m high
What book?
@@andyphelps6993 Is belief in god good, bad or irrelevant? Edited by Preston Jones
@@user-xf2pp4re1g thank you.
Deepest respect that you did this... Every word is truth...
This should naturally segway into Bad Religion - The Empire Strikes First
Good band tuneful and intelligent. Like watching your videos always interesting and fair. For Punk week maybe try Crass "Do They Owe Us Living?". Thanks.
Crass Forever. Yes 10000%. They’ll probably hate it tho haha
CRASS!!!!-
CONFLICT!!!
If you´re doing Punk Week, play some Misfits. The early stuff with Danzig. Bullet, Skulls, Astro Zombies, Last Caress, Bloodfeast, Queen Wasp...
Bullet would be very interesting to see . *giggle*
Anything off Earth AD. except Die Die. Just so over played. The thrashy jams kill though
Misfits have nothing intelligent to say and that's their aim, Its Horror punk. These 2 wouldn't go past the first minute of 20 eyes.
Hybrid Moments and She might be interesting, but in terms of lyrics the only good songs from the misfits are actually Graves' songs (ie descending angel, Saturday nights, and dig up her bones) despite the fact that in terms of music Danzig is way better than Graves.
I'm not sure if you looked into it at all, but I'm hoping you found an explanation on why they call themselves "Bad Religion" and what a "bad religion" is. It's pretty profound, but when your front man is a doctor and a teacher, it's to be expected he has a profound outlook on our culture.
"I'll believe in God when 1 and 1 are 5"
An upside down 5 is a 2 just change your perspective
1 and 1 is 11
11 are two pararell
Parallel means the same sides
Same sides could stand for twins
Lines are used to make towers or buildings
Religion has 8 letters
8+1 is 9
Put them together 911
Bad religion did 911
@@thecooldude4881 that's too funny. Well played.
MY MONIKER IS MAN AND I'M ROTTEN TO THE CORE
I'LL TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING JUST TO PASS THROUGH THE DOOR!
**even when
The take on the lyrics seem pretty spot on. It's nice to see song reactions that go into so much detail over every line, well done.
“Faith Alone” would’ve been a good one.
The critics Dr. Graffin drops in this songs are pure truth, and you can underline it with red when you've seen amerincan missionaries working in your country.
I'll help you out here Edwin with your good comment... You mean "critiques" not critics there.
May I suggest the book "Is Belief in God Good, Bad or Irrelevant?" which is a compilation of e-mails between Greg G and a pastor.
A very interesting read. The man Greg corresponds with is called Preston Jones.
I’m glad to see you listen with an open mind. Good show
Bad Religion is an amazing band, more please, The Answers, Only Entertainmet are great songs.
Even though Greg's an athiest and PHD in evolutionary biology, he later admitted that symbol taking off as their trademark maybe wasn't the best thing ever.
Ain't missionary just a peaceful term for colonialist?
Anyway, I do understand why it happened to be "American Jesus", though my Bad Religion song number one would still be "I want to conquer the world".
Sidenote: There's a Motörhead song called "God was never on your side".
History is full of conquerors. The USA; China; Mongolia; Native Tribes fighting each other for land; etc.
Guy i love your reactions here and thematic conversation you touch, because i was a kid from that period you talk to.
I got so much flashback with your reactions when song playing yoouuu :O and after the song conversation, i remember everything.
Cheers guys!
You should do a reaction to Propaghandi.
haillie sellase up your ass!
The only good fascist is a dead fascist or anything off How to clean everything.
Oh yeah! Do "fuck Religion"
Anti-Manifesto!! Ska Sucks!
Started the video expecting one reaction...got a nice surprise with the reaction I got. Thank both of yall for understanding what the song was about and not just reacting to the Band's logo and name.
Amazing Live Band,Amazing political Lyrics....now its a NEED to react to DEAD KENNEDYS/JELLO BIAFFRA !!!
They did Holiday in Cambodia
I'm an Ex solider, and yes Bad Religion was my favorite band before I signed up. I was enlisted during the mid-90s , and I was torn the entire time. After I got out their music has become a cry for all to listen.
This is a very refreshing perspective to see from Christians. Thanks for sharing and being open minded and receptive to this message
Their first LP is soooo underrated. And they weren’t even 20 when they made it. It’s called “How Could Hell be Any Worse?”
Blistering punk music! Great to skate to. I'm also a follower of Christ. Good music is just good music.
i'm from Europe and i ve been fan of Bad Religion for SOOO long.. i ve heard many songs/groups i like on your channel and appreciated your analysis and reactions in general, but i must say finding em here and finally havin an "explaination" from a closer point of view it was awesome! keep up your good work and, in case you want some more Bad Religion go for Los Angeles is Burning, You , Epiphany!
I think you will like a lot of Bad Religion songs; good, intelligent and thought provoking lyrics guaranteed.
Thank you for this thoughtful reaction. I appreciate your openness. Probably too late for this request, but their song “Faith Alone” is another thought-provoking song.
This one i really enjoyed! Your dissection of the song and the meaning behind it makes it so good with Bad Religions deeper than avarage lyrics and meanings. You should really check out more of this, they have songs about social problems (Billy, the numbers game), religious problem throughout the years (Sinister Rouge, The new dark ages, Gods love), the upcome of mankind (Fertile Crecent) and lots of philosophical songs (Chimeara).
Also, they just pushed album no. 15 and have yet to release a bad song.
greg said it best when he said " i don't know if the billions will survive but 'i'll believe in god when 1 and 1 are 5"
Literally one of the best lyrics from an incredible song
We are getting closer and closer to Rise Against... I'm waiting...
Everything you said from 21:30 to 22:30 is dead-on!
Please react to Atomic Garden. Probably my favorite song by them.
Great song. I would also say Generator.
@@lucasschmitter444 Against the grain. So many great ones.
Excellent vid!
I found this randomly as a BR fan. Coming from a Christian upbringing, it makes me smile to see y'all approach this intelligently.
They dont hate religion or christianity.
They, like many punk bands, point out the flaws of belief without question.
Oh Dear Lord, people reacting to a PHD Level Professor who teaches at UCLA and Cornell Universities as well as has written books on theoretical evolutionary biology.
I don’t know what I was expecting when I clicked “Christian’s react to bad religion” but it certainly wasn’t hearing a Christian explain the nuanced historical context of a Bible verse for the first time on RUclips. Subbed
One of my fav bands growing up!
Power Trip - Divine Apprehension
Power Trip - Hornet’s Nest
Power Trip - Crucifixation
Pretty sure they'll love this! It's more on the thrash side, hopefully they do a thrash week. They can understand how punk has influenced the heavy metal in some sub genres
Totally, I keep requesting it! Haha
Crossbreaker
I've never seen your videos before and from the tagline, I didn't expect you to get the message of this song. Deepest respect for your open minds and understanding.
What did you expect from the best in business? Nothing but good!!!!
Really nice to see such a fair and thoughtful reaction. The band's name & logo are provocative, and so is the song title ... but lyrically I'd say they're head and shoulders above most other bands.
So good. Genuine dialogue. More videos like this can only help. To Interpret intelligence especially poetic resistance to the populace is not a fashion. Compelling!!
I cant helo thinking that line "See him on the interstate" is referring to my town. We have a HUGE cross on the interstate (tallest in america? or at least at one time) about 100 miles East of St. Louis (Effingham, IL). Ben Folds wrote a song about it while traveling from St. Louis to Normal, IL (thus the name of the album The Road To Normal). He got the name wrong, the song is called Effington, but did say in an interview that he did & apologized :)
Apocalyptica - I’m Not Jesus (feat. Corey Taylor)
As they read the lyrics you see that in all these years the only change from these lyrics to what's true today is that it is more ingrained and more true today than then.
I went to the annual ''Punk in the park'' festival this year, which was in Orange County California. Bad Religion headlined the event, and it was a great experience. Got to see a bunch of bands I never heard of, and of course the ones I have. I'm newer to punk music. I grew up with samplings of different punk songs, especially in the 90's and early 2000's, but I wasn't like hardcore into the genre. Punk has sort of come in clutch in my life though, I'm hearing so much I can relate to, and getting my eyes opened to the community, and ears open to new songs. Suicidal Tendencies has had the biggest effect on me, and I can say that they are my favorite punk band for sure, followed by Dead Kennedys lol.
Since I’m a long time fan of BR, kind of skipped that song since it turned a lot. But this hits so many layers of American patriotism, which you caught onto well. I’m Canadian, meaning we bask in American culture, yet live a different way. Weird dichotomy. Anyway, the weaponizing of God and virtue as a self-appointed moral police of the world has made the USA extremely hated (not my words, mind you) and to less extremes a petulant king with his fly left open, inviting contempt, snark and eye rolls at the lack of self-awareness.
The puritanical FCC side by side with the world leader in porn. The insistence that the President profess his faith in God. Not here. (Well technically yes they have to swear to the Queen and God but are not obligated by law, stupid colonial shit.)
And yes let’s not hide the fact you brought up yourself, the Church is mighty rich.
Great video! Funny watching your faces. I’ll subscribe for sure.
This song is the greatest condemnation of American Exceptionalism ever written.
You should definitely listen to Subhumans- From The Cradle To The Grave, I think you’ll love it
Hell yes I grew up on that album...waste of breath showed me the world is full of cliches and trends that's all eventually go out the door.
Bad Religion is in my top 5 bands of all time. Greg is certainly not anti-christian. He simply advocates thinking for yourself and not subscribing to any sort of dogma, no matter the religion or doctrine. He's a Rhodes scholar, and finding Bad Religion when I was 14 increased my vocabulary more than any books I've read. I used to get pulled over in rural PA for having a Bad Religion sticker on the car. Could never get the cops to actually listen to the words. They saw the logo and thought I was a satanist! These guys should listen to the song "No Direction" It illustrates how people search for direction anywhere they can find it, be it God, or MTV. The song is dated, but still completely relevant (which can be said about most of their music. The new album is pretty good too. Still doing what they do for almost 40 years! Thanks for really listening to the song, you guys nailed it.
Great song! And great review! By the look on your faces during the song I didn't think it was gonna go that way but fair play! And by the way I shower every day fyi we're no different across the pond but I'm sure you weren't fooled haha
This was a fantastic conversation. I'd love to buy y'all a coffee. Also--thanks for listening to the _whole_ song before discussing it.
Can’t tell you how much I love this video. Please do Church Reacts ✅
I'm an Atheist. I don't think the two of you are. And respect the shit outta your critiques! You two rule.
Did you read the name of the video?
Your faces. Priceless. They speak the truth.
1993 was not gulf war. Dick.
I love Bad Religion!
Aside from Tool which was a big help in dealing with some issues in my life. Bad Religion saved me. I was in the worst and darkest stages in life after discovering soo many painful truths. Because of this punk band I have been able to find renewed life ever since I was 17. I can't tell you how thankful I am to the band and its members. Thank you Vin and Sori. I am glad to see that others (especially religious) can listen to punk and not criticise the music or label it as devil, idiotic, or mindless music only idiots listen to. Yeah I havent spoken to my family in 15 years.
Check out" STRUNG OUT" since you went this route, wont be disappointed.. "Calling" maybe, dunno they have to much :) cheerz
The other day I swear to god I got a letter in the mail, it said register with us or you're gonna go to jail, you'll be put inside a cage and forced to enlist
@@BucsRaysBolts Well I laughed out loud, said I
Won't comply To be labeled as one of those who qualify to be shipped off to
Fight some fucking war
'Cause war's not about policy-religion, It's about economy and I'm not dying to set your country free
I've seen quite a few reactions to this song and it's just absolutely fantastic to have you guys nail the meaning in the first sentence you say after the song finished.
Nofx - Separation of church and skate !! Please :)
Bad religion is my favorite band, I grew up in this song.
I'd love to see yall react to their latest album
They choose their logo to get a reaction, or attention, because when bad religion came out they had something to say, and wanted to reach the mass populous....they are not anti Christianity, they are anti organized religion..
Amazing, iconic band. Living legends!!!!
You have to do much more of em.. best punk lyrics. Intellectual as can be punk Rock
Maybe check anti flag or propaghandi for more great music and great lyrics
Your musical taste is impeccable.
Ska sucks! Ska revival isn't cool you stupid smuck!
@@FrancoUnAmericano great song 😂
@@kev25811 thanx, i try my best 😉 greetings
I love the looks of genuine shock (e.g. 3:12). Overall, the guy looks shocked, the girl just looks pissed off. lmao
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields of Desolation (LIVE Tyrants of the Rising Sun 2008)
No punk either.
I don’t get why you would ask them to react to those two songs by arch enemy specifically,we will rise is pretty simple and fields of desolation is direct
I LOVE this. What an awesome and authentic and sincere reaction! Mad props to you guys for recognizing what the song is criticizing and engaging with that in a good faith discussion, instead of oversimplifying and misunderstanding its message. This is really cool to watch and your open-mindedness is a true virtue. You're doing a great job practicing the kinds of humble qualities that I understand Christians are *supposed* to try to cultivate in themselves. Amen, more people need to quit letting themselves get so triggered by challenges to practices and ways of thinking that turn up in their communities! Bad Religion is my favorite band and it's awesome to see their message being heard for what it truly is. I have no doubt that many Christians and punks and everyone in between have been and will continue to be brought together in honest discussion, thanks to you helping to elevate the discourse. :)
I am just an atom in an ectoplasmic sea
Without direction or a reason to exist
The anechoic nebula rotating in my brain
Has persuaded me contritely to persist
Read up on Greg Graffin, +all his lyrics are something you should listen closely
I am a Christian. Bad Religion has been my favorite band since I heard "You" on Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, and I own all 17(!!) of their studio albums. Here's what I get out of the band.
They taught me the difference between Religion and The Church. In one of their songs called "Faith In God," they outright say, "It's all right to have faith in God, but when you bend to their rules and their f***ing lies, that's when I start to have pity on you." The band formed as a response to the terrible money-grabbing practices of the TV Evangelicals of the 80's, which is why they have the name. They showed me that there is a difference between the religion and the people who practice it, and it taught me to dig deeper into reasons whenever someone claims to do something in the name of religion.
I did get a different interpretation of this song, however. What I got from "American Jesus" is that they're talking about Capitalism, the US Dollar, and how that ties into our inflated sense of self-worth . That's what I get from the line "In God We Trust, because he's one of us." The American Jesus is The Dollar--which helped build the President's estate. The farmer's barren fields (taking without giving), the force the army wields (to protect the money), the expressions on the faces of the starving millions (who don't have to starve with the money our country has at its disposal)...all of these tie into capitalism and the want of the dollar. And that dollar, and the ties it has to the rest of the world's economy ("I don't NEED to be a global citizen...), is really what makes us the most powerful nation in the world, and that gives us our inflated sense of self-worth ("...cause I'm blessed by nationality").
It's interesting to hear a different Christian's opinion on this song, especially considering its probably in the top 5 best songs they've ever produced, honestly. I love that you guys have given it a chance, because I think confronting this band that forces you to take a look at your own religion and beliefs can really help you understand what you really care about.
this is typical copium.
"its not religion its just the church"
i couldnt recommend the channel TheraminTrees more, ive learned so much about psychology from that channel.
shunning reason in favour of faith is NEVER good. An ideology that sees Belief based on no evidence and in the presence of conflicting evidence as a virtue is never good.
decades of studying religion, both from a sociological, psychological and neurobiological angle has illustrated the fact that churches are simply the result of a lot of religious people forming the establishment of their faith. any time theres many religious people sharing their religious ideology, a religious hierarchy originates. And once the "church" consolidates, all the negative features of religion can then multiply.
There will always occur "churches" unless religiosity is abandoned as a fallacious thought process
And I lost three friends in 9/11, and not one of them believed in god. Some idiot said that's why they died. So I broke his jaw.
Religious, Christian, agnostic, atheist, doesn’t matter, because the song and lyrics are phenomenal and brought up valid points. I agree 100%. One of my favorite songs of all time. It’s not about the gulf war, or a specific time. It’s just the attitude, sense of entitlement and favoritism, and the history of the USA christianity. God’s favorite country. Lol.
Bad Religion has alot great punk rock ideology they've been doing it for years. They've seemed to held on to there punk rock roots when they signed on the major label that gave them radio play for American Jesus. I strongly suggest checking out The band NOFX on Epitaph label thanx for your reaction
Agreed. You might even check out a song by NOFX called "Best God In Show", if, as Christians, you're actually interested in songs that are critical of Christianity. Fair warning though, even compared to "American Jesus" that song is very _direct_ and both a lot less poetic and a lot more general about its criticism. I'd agree that "American Jesus" is mostly critical of American evangelism and nationalism, whereas "Best God In Show" is just very bluntly critical of religiosity in general. "The Idiots Are Taking Over" would be another option.
@@rdevries3852 yes I would agree its very direct indeed and many Christians might take offense....
@@basedsalty6970 Which is why I probably wouldn't have suggested it if Vin and Sori hadn't indicated that they can actually appreciate critcism. And also why I included the warning that "Best God In Show" is a very different animal than "American Jesus", so they'd know what they were getting into.
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Blasphemy (the song) would be great! 😂😍
@@TheLebno true but seriously I'm a big Tony Sly fan and he was a friend linoleum is my all time favorite I no it's old but its probably there best song still among the fans what do you think
I'm glad you finally did a Bad Religion reaction video! This band is amazing! Btw, another god song is Sinister Rouge and God Song.
Pennywise "My God"
Oh man, you said it all.
Thanks for that.
Listen to their song "The Voice of God is Government"
Since you do Darwin Week, are there more Bad Religion songs to be expected?
IRON MAIDEN - Infinite Dreams
Nice profile pic 👍
@@victor75208 Thanks!
You should check out more BR. The singer is a PhD and a professor at Berkeley. They aren’t anti-Christian necessarily, just against organized ways of thinking. The cross is just the most recognizable symbol of organized thinking, that is why it’s in the logo.
Two lovely, fair-minded human beings. I was very impressed by them listening to the whole recording, before, commenting. God bless them both.