I've been running with the Stryd for about 6 months and I haven't had any connectivity issues at all. It's been soaked in the rain and worn in cold, dry temps around the upper teens, so nothing like you've put it through. I still have not done any power specific training, but the data it's giving me now is pretty useful though honestly I don't quite understand it all yet!
@@kofuzi It's shorting me a little on pace and distance, but I'd rather be going faster than I think I am than the opposite. When I ran a half marathon with it, I got 12.9 miles so it's not a massive difference. I never have bothered to calibrate it on a track, but I may do that at some point.
I've been running with Stryd for over a year now. I've never had any connectivity issues with ANT+ on Garmin watch or Bluetooth to my phone. The accuracy is incredible for my Stryd. My wife's Stryd is a bit more off, though. But, we calibrate it on the watch. So far, I think it's the best running tool out there next to a HRM.
i still get regular connectivity issues, but i think in the overall, it gives me less uncertainty than gps. in the city, i regularly run under bridges or other overpasses where GPS just wouldn't work.
I love my stryd and have been running with it on every run for 2 months now. Once you accumulate enough runs for it to give you all the analytics in PowerCenter, you are going to love it.
Stryd works really well with my Garmin FR935 and got all the Stryd data running indoor. Not with other platforms (iSmoothRun, Suunto Ambit3 Peak) when running on a treadmill. I bought it mainly because it would help prevent bonking in Full marathon and beyond.
Wow, Chicago is super cold! Once you get down to below 10F, lithium ion batteries tend to fail. Anyway, I’ve been using the Stryd and power-based training for a year; it was helpful in getting my first Boston qualifier. I like how it helps to regulate my effort on hills, the start of races, etc. when I tend to over-do things a bit. I’ve been documenting all my experiences as well as sharing a bunch of truly 🤓 nerdy tests on my channel.
The accuracy of my Stryd is incredible. Distance measured is always the same over an identical run. When I used to rely on gps, distance and pace were all over the place. On my Fenix 5, which has ant + issues, I have to wear my watch on the inside of my wrist, so it has line of sight with the stryd on the opposite foot. With the watch worn normally, I’d have connection drop outs. This is a Garmin issue though. During the summer I calibrated mine at a track. Ended up being 1.1% out. As the stryd relies on precise accelerometers, running through snow will vary the force which is measured. That I assume is why your measurements have issues.
Ive been using stryd for a coyple of years had no issuesl at all. But i would recommend that you make sure you have the latest firmware. Stryd support is very good. Also check out the power centre on a PC there's more info and gives recommendations on your training to help you improve.
Interesting to hear your first impressions. As it happens, I've just completed a review of Stryd - I didn't have any problems losing connection to the pod. But I did find similar issues with odd GPS traces when Stryd uses the phone for GPS. I got far better results when I severed the connection with my phone - using GPS off the AW itself. It also looks like you're running fairly flat courses - I think it has more value for hilly courses or trail runs, where pace itself is not so useful. When the weather gets better, I'd recommend doing a critical power test - it does make the power number more meaningful.
I was contacted by stryd after this video. It was very nice to have them reach out with some additional insights. They confirmed that some connection issues may arise when both the Apple Watch and your phone have their Bluetooth on. They recommended turning Bluetooth off on the phone.
@@kofuzi I was going to suggest that they reach out to you since I have been working with them on some connection issues on my stryd. I'm glad they contacted you. Fortunately for me, I use ant+, so I can actually connect to watch and phone at the same time without issue. I prefer the watch.
Dude! I’ve been seeing pics of Chicago all day with the weather and I keep looking to see if I can spot you as it’s of all the places where you run!! Jesus it’s cold where u are!
I keep looking to spot myself in news footage as well. Definitely had several photographers shooting me as I ran by. But so far, I've only seen footage of someone running in a Boston Marathon jacket, soooo definitely not me
Probably very good outside in the real world. Mine was very off on a treadmill even though advertised not required and even recommended not to calibrate. My use is only for a treadmill for zwift so I sent it back. A garmin footpod is adequate for this task.
I use Stryd. It is inconsistent for me. The same effort on a treadmill vs. outside (based on heart rate and perceived exertion) yields noticeably different results. Different shoes can also produce different results. And the biggest source of deviation seems to be pace. When I run slowly or really quickly, the measurements deviate from what I can measure via GPS or on a map. When I run at HM pace, it is most accurate. In short, while Stryd is very consistent when you keep pace, shoes, and surface constant, I bought it because I rarely have the luxury of keeping every variable consistent. The one thing I do love, though, is how quickly the pace adjusts. This is a big improvement over GPS. I do also really like the vertical oscillation, cadence, and power tracking because I love analyzing my running data. But none of it has convinced me to manage my training and racing by anything other than pace, distance, and heart rate.
Isn't the whole point of it to let you know when your perceived efforts deceive you? So I'm not sure that your treadmill vs road anecdotal experience really dissuades but rather reaffirms. Also, can you verify that your gps tracings are accurate? I run in urban areas where gps is frequently inaccurate, so stryd being different than gps is a strength not a weakness. But maybe you have a great internal clock and your gps is rock solid, in which case, I think your points are quite valid. Also, I have other issues with stryd, so I'm not saying it's perfect.
@@kofuzi I wanted it to be my one reliable data point, but it hasn't turned out that way. When Stryd tells me that my 20 minute threshold run on a treadmill with an average heart rate of 170 is the same power output as a 20 minute easy-ish jog outside with an average heart rate below 150 then I know something is off with the calibration. It's not a bad device, but it isn't the rock-solid definitive analytical tool that I was hoping it would be.
I ran yesterday as the polar vortex was coming in, it was still 16 degrees, so relatively still warm compared to what it would be later but the snow was blasting into my face and I really envied your goggles at that point!
I've had my stryd for approx. a year. The powercenter is nice, especially on the improve tab for recommendations and trends. I like the trends to keep me motivated. I checked on a track and it was spot on for me from a distance perspective. I have set my watch to use it for pace and distance (vs. the GPS). The accuracy can be annoying as it tells me I usually over run during races (so I have to try to adjust). Beyond the stryd app for garmin and data fields, there is also datarun, which can display up to 7 fields on one screen, including power (need to purchase). I don't run by power only, but it is another data point. Also, I use smashrun.com, which leverages the power data so I can see in the app, which I find more informative than the power center when looking at the run in some usecases. I don't believe strava supports yet.
One other note, be sure to check styd compatibility in regards to using gps and stryd for pace/distance at the same time in regards to a watch. Not all watches support this (my Garmin 935 does). My vivoactive HR does not.
It seems like a strange thing to hope from a machine, but I am hoping the accuracy and connectivity issues will improve over time (and as the temps get back to normal here)
@@kofuzi One other thought on accuracy, I assuming you synced your weight and height to the stryd. I received a replacement stryd recently and forgot to update this information, which resulted in some really high values (like I have never hit those power values in the past). Download correct information and the rest of my run looked correct.
Really cool, I have the original runscribe, I've heard the newer one is compatible with Garmin. Not sure what the difference is between runscribe and stryd, Anyway, looking forward to hearing your impressions once the weather gets better.
I’ve been waiting for this video, good stuff mike! Thanks you. Question for you, how does it display on the Suunto watch? Since you need to download an app on the app watch to see it the data, same for the other watches?
i use a garmin footpod JUST more affordable and knowing if anything goes wrong with it amazon has it also now this device i had ordered but didnt like the fact that you need to charge it its quite hard to put on and off also didnt like this pod and zwift seems to be more accurate for me with garmin footpod but I heard this one also is accurate now in terms of power i like that data in cycling a lot but not sure with running i think if it become easier to use and price is nuts for this thing my fenix watch does a good job keeping my running data in check i dont see the use of the power
I'm not convinced in the power number either. But I'm curious enough to keep testing this out. The stryd has been relatively easy to clip on or off, and I'm amazed I haven't lost the thing yet
Stryd gives pace, cadence and a power estimate. Garmin run dynamics pods will give more - as stryd but also things like ground contact, symmetry etc. Runscribe gives even more - all above again but also gait analytics such as breaking force, pronation. footstrike type etc. Check out dcrainmaker.com for more on all..
Thanks for that. Im familiar with what the Garmin Dynamics Pod gives you as I use the 735xt with the HRM Run strap(Similar information). Garmin has a Footpod like the stryd and was wondering if it gave interesting data, especially in doors. Runscribe sounds interesting, Ill see what Ray and the internet says about that! Cheers!
I have the garmin footpod and the stryd. The stryd is more accurate out of the box. You can manually or automatically calibrate the garmin to increase accuracy (like stryd), but potentially not as accurate even after calibration (I haven't tried a side-by-side to verify). Out of the box it was a bit off. It doesn't have all the data as the stryd (i.e., distance and cadence only). That said, it is much cheaper if you are looking only for something to track distance and cadence more accurately indoors. I don't use mine anymore after I got the stryd.
Cold? You should try South Dakota. I've already done a number of runs in below zero temps. :) I've had a Stryd for over a year now and it is MUCH more accurate than the speed reading you'll get from a watch (for reference, I have a Forerunner 935). Take a look at the accuracy review done by fellrnr fellrnr.com/wiki/Stryd for a great breakdown of the device.
Also, you will need to have an accurate height/weight setting and at some point perform the 3/9 minute test to determine your threshold power. Once you have that, the data is very meaningful and you can train in power zones. The Styrd/935 combo has been rock solid with zero drops or gaps.
In terms of treadmill speed, the Stryd is correct, the treadmill is not. Again, take a look at the review in the link above and you will see info on that topic as well. Stryd themselves have also done a test with treadmills and have proven the same thing.
i dont doubt the treadmill is off. just another reason to hate those things. but the video was 20+ minutes as it is. definitely a discussion for another day.
Good to hear what you think if the stryd foot pod! I'm keen to get my hands on one as having power out as a measure is better a measure of your efforts in different running sessions. Here is a good article on using power to help with running. www.executivestyle.com.au/power-meters-can-help-you-become-a-faster-and-more-efficient-runner-h13lz3
I've been running with the Stryd for about 6 months and I haven't had any connectivity issues at all. It's been soaked in the rain and worn in cold, dry temps around the upper teens, so nothing like you've put it through. I still have not done any power specific training, but the data it's giving me now is pretty useful though honestly I don't quite understand it all yet!
good to know that you've been able to soak it without issues.
what do you think about the distance and pace numbers it's giving you?
Also, are you using the Powercenter web page or just the app? I think some of the metrics you are looking for are only available on the website.
@@kofuzi It's shorting me a little on pace and distance, but I'd rather be going faster than I think I am than the opposite. When I ran a half marathon with it, I got 12.9 miles so it's not a massive difference. I never have bothered to calibrate it on a track, but I may do that at some point.
Mine was reading 4% over on distance. Using the auto calibration feature of my watch has sorted this out. I now find it very useful for instant pace.
@@fasttwitch7859 Absolutely. Can't beat a footpod for that instantaneous pace reading.
I've been running with Stryd for over a year now. I've never had any connectivity issues with ANT+ on Garmin watch or Bluetooth to my phone. The accuracy is incredible for my Stryd. My wife's Stryd is a bit more off, though. But, we calibrate it on the watch. So far, I think it's the best running tool out there next to a HRM.
i still get regular connectivity issues, but i think in the overall, it gives me less uncertainty than gps. in the city, i regularly run under bridges or other overpasses where GPS just wouldn't work.
I love my stryd and have been running with it on every run for 2 months now. Once you accumulate enough runs for it to give you all the analytics in PowerCenter, you are going to love it.
That's what I'm hoping for 🤞
After your run this morning I can never have an excuse not to run!
cold is relative. it all depends on how well you can layer up.
Stryd works really well with my Garmin FR935 and got all the Stryd data running indoor. Not with other platforms (iSmoothRun, Suunto Ambit3 Peak) when running on a treadmill. I bought it mainly because it would help prevent bonking in Full marathon and beyond.
That's the main thing I'm hoping for so trying to seed as much data before my next marathon (hopefully early June)
I thought the Stryd would work better with Suunto since it uses bluetooth which is supposed to be better than Garmin's ANT+.
Wow, Chicago is super cold! Once you get down to below 10F, lithium ion batteries tend to fail. Anyway, I’ve been using the Stryd and power-based training for a year; it was helpful in getting my first Boston qualifier. I like how it helps to regulate my effort on hills, the start of races, etc. when I tend to over-do things a bit. I’ve been documenting all my experiences as well as sharing a bunch of truly 🤓 nerdy tests on my channel.
glad to know that it has been helpful in race conditions!
The accuracy of my Stryd is incredible. Distance measured is always the same over an identical run. When I used to rely on gps, distance and pace were all over the place. On my Fenix 5, which has ant + issues, I have to wear my watch on the inside of my wrist, so it has line of sight with the stryd on the opposite foot. With the watch worn normally, I’d have connection drop outs. This is a Garmin issue though. During the summer I calibrated mine at a track. Ended up being 1.1% out. As the stryd relies on precise accelerometers, running through snow will vary the force which is measured. That I assume is why your measurements have issues.
They just need to surgically implant an oximeter in my quad.
@@kofuzi :) Just make sure you stay warm these days! Have to say though, I'm loving the epic footage!
i'm having a great time capturing it. that being said, i think i'll run inside today.
If your Fenix 5 has ant+ issues then how can the Stryd be accurate? Did you switch to a bluetooth only watch?
Ive been using stryd for a coyple of years had no issuesl at all. But i would recommend that you make sure you have the latest firmware. Stryd support is very good. Also check out the power centre on a PC there's more info and gives recommendations on your training to help you improve.
there's a lot to learn with this thing
Interesting to hear your first impressions. As it happens, I've just completed a review of Stryd - I didn't have any problems losing connection to the pod. But I did find similar issues with odd GPS traces when Stryd uses the phone for GPS. I got far better results when I severed the connection with my phone - using GPS off the AW itself.
It also looks like you're running fairly flat courses - I think it has more value for hilly courses or trail runs, where pace itself is not so useful.
When the weather gets better, I'd recommend doing a critical power test - it does make the power number more meaningful.
I was contacted by stryd after this video. It was very nice to have them reach out with some additional insights. They confirmed that some connection issues may arise when both the Apple Watch and your phone have their Bluetooth on. They recommended turning Bluetooth off on the phone.
@@kofuzi I was going to suggest that they reach out to you since I have been working with them on some connection issues on my stryd. I'm glad they contacted you. Fortunately for me, I use ant+, so I can actually connect to watch and phone at the same time without issue. I prefer the watch.
Dude! I’ve been seeing pics of Chicago all day with the weather and I keep looking to see if I can spot you as it’s of all the places where you run!! Jesus it’s cold where u are!
I keep looking to spot myself in news footage as well. Definitely had several photographers shooting me as I ran by. But so far, I've only seen footage of someone running in a Boston Marathon jacket, soooo definitely not me
Probably very good outside in the real world. Mine was very off on a treadmill even though advertised not required and even recommended not to calibrate. My use is only for a treadmill for zwift so I sent it back. A garmin footpod is adequate for this task.
i'd agree with that. i think there are cheaper footpods one could get if you only need it for zwift
I use Stryd. It is inconsistent for me. The same effort on a treadmill vs. outside (based on heart rate and perceived exertion) yields noticeably different results. Different shoes can also produce different results. And the biggest source of deviation seems to be pace. When I run slowly or really quickly, the measurements deviate from what I can measure via GPS or on a map. When I run at HM pace, it is most accurate.
In short, while Stryd is very consistent when you keep pace, shoes, and surface constant, I bought it because I rarely have the luxury of keeping every variable consistent.
The one thing I do love, though, is how quickly the pace adjusts. This is a big improvement over GPS. I do also really like the vertical oscillation, cadence, and power tracking because I love analyzing my running data. But none of it has convinced me to manage my training and racing by anything other than pace, distance, and heart rate.
Isn't the whole point of it to let you know when your perceived efforts deceive you? So I'm not sure that your treadmill vs road anecdotal experience really dissuades but rather reaffirms.
Also, can you verify that your gps tracings are accurate? I run in urban areas where gps is frequently inaccurate, so stryd being different than gps is a strength not a weakness.
But maybe you have a great internal clock and your gps is rock solid, in which case, I think your points are quite valid. Also, I have other issues with stryd, so I'm not saying it's perfect.
@@kofuzi I wanted it to be my one reliable data point, but it hasn't turned out that way. When Stryd tells me that my 20 minute threshold run on a treadmill with an average heart rate of 170 is the same power output as a 20 minute easy-ish jog outside with an average heart rate below 150 then I know something is off with the calibration. It's not a bad device, but it isn't the rock-solid definitive analytical tool that I was hoping it would be.
I ran yesterday as the polar vortex was coming in, it was still 16 degrees, so relatively still warm compared to what it would be later but the snow was blasting into my face and I really envied your goggles at that point!
People look at me funny for running in ski gear. But I wouldn't run in these conditions without them
Loved the discussion and detail. Thx!
Thanks for much for watching and for your patience. I know this one was quite long winded
I've had my stryd for approx. a year. The powercenter is nice, especially on the improve tab for recommendations and trends. I like the trends to keep me motivated. I checked on a track and it was spot on for me from a distance perspective. I have set my watch to use it for pace and distance (vs. the GPS). The accuracy can be annoying as it tells me I usually over run during races (so I have to try to adjust). Beyond the stryd app for garmin and data fields, there is also datarun, which can display up to 7 fields on one screen, including power (need to purchase). I don't run by power only, but it is another data point. Also, I use smashrun.com, which leverages the power data so I can see in the app, which I find more informative than the power center when looking at the run in some usecases. I don't believe strava supports yet.
One other note, be sure to check styd compatibility in regards to using gps and stryd for pace/distance at the same time in regards to a watch. Not all watches support this (my Garmin 935 does). My vivoactive HR does not.
That's interesting. I hadn't thought of that
It seems like a strange thing to hope from a machine, but I am hoping the accuracy and connectivity issues will improve over time (and as the temps get back to normal here)
@@kofuzi One other thought on accuracy, I assuming you synced your weight and height to the stryd. I received a replacement stryd recently and forgot to update this information, which resulted in some really high values (like I have never hit those power values in the past). Download correct information and the rest of my run looked correct.
Nice episode and thanks for honest review. Can you please do another follow up since you have been using Stryd for 10 months now.
Sure
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Really cool, I have the original runscribe, I've heard the newer one is compatible with Garmin. Not sure what the difference is between runscribe and stryd, Anyway, looking forward to hearing your impressions once the weather gets better.
A couple of others have mentioned with enthusiasm the Runscribe. I am not familiar with it, however
You can overlap data on their website in powercenter. Most of the great staff about stryde is in datacenter (powercenter).
i'm going to have to check this out. i looked at the website early on, but not since.
I’ve been waiting for this video, good stuff mike! Thanks you.
Question for you, how does it display on the Suunto watch? Since you need to download an app on the app watch to see it the data, same for the other watches?
you can configure a data field
Great review !
Thanks! I'm still testing and will have a 2 month review coming up. Stay tuned!
Will you be reviewing the Under Armour hovr infinite? I believe it comes out 2/1/19
Probably not. More likely the sonic 2
@@kofuzi OK, thanks for letting me know
You probably recorded the run before your half since you were complaining about the Pegusus 35 shield! right?
This was after. I actually like the shield if there's snow on the ground, which makes the shoe's shortcomings that much more frustrating
Hi kofuzi, Any updates after another 3 weeks of running :) Hope that weather is better in Chicago :)
still seeding data. the 2 month mark seems to be significant for Stryd, so i will be posting an update then. that's about another month away.
stay warm
It's a challenge
i use a garmin footpod JUST more affordable and knowing if anything goes wrong with it amazon has it also now this device i had ordered but didnt like the fact that you need to charge it its quite hard to put on and off also didnt like this pod and zwift seems to be more accurate for me with garmin footpod but I heard this one also is accurate now in terms of power i like that data in cycling a lot but not sure with running i think if it become easier to use and price is nuts for this thing my fenix watch does a good job keeping my running data in check i dont see the use of the power
I'm not convinced in the power number either. But I'm curious enough to keep testing this out.
The stryd has been relatively easy to clip on or off, and I'm amazed I haven't lost the thing yet
hi, have you reviewed the Milestone foot pod?
i’d love to see it.
I'm not familiar with that one
How are you managing the extreme cold over in Chicago ?
Layers. Lots and lots of layers.
What's the name of the song in the intro? Keep up the good work! :)
Lay Down by Killrude
@@kofuzi Thx! Do you usually listen to music when you run? And if so, what kind of music?
Any idea of features vs other footpods, Garmin footpod for example?
i'm not familiar with the garmin footpod - only the under armour built in footpod.
Stryd gives pace, cadence and a power estimate. Garmin run dynamics pods will give more - as stryd but also things like ground contact, symmetry etc. Runscribe gives even more - all above again but also gait analytics such as breaking force, pronation. footstrike type etc. Check out dcrainmaker.com for more on all..
Thanks for that. Im familiar with what the Garmin Dynamics Pod gives you as I use the 735xt with the HRM Run strap(Similar information). Garmin has a Footpod like the stryd and was wondering if it gave interesting data, especially in doors. Runscribe sounds interesting, Ill see what Ray and the internet says about that! Cheers!
@@kevinscott4938 the garmin pod just gives the same as the strap for those who don't use the HRM-Run
I have the garmin footpod and the stryd. The stryd is more accurate out of the box. You can manually or automatically calibrate the garmin to increase accuracy (like stryd), but potentially not as accurate even after calibration (I haven't tried a side-by-side to verify). Out of the box it was a bit off. It doesn't have all the data as the stryd (i.e., distance and cadence only). That said, it is much cheaper if you are looking only for something to track distance and cadence more accurately indoors. I don't use mine anymore after I got the stryd.
Cold? You should try South Dakota. I've already done a number of runs in below zero temps. :) I've had a Stryd for over a year now and it is MUCH more accurate than the speed reading you'll get from a watch (for reference, I have a Forerunner 935). Take a look at the accuracy review done by fellrnr fellrnr.com/wiki/Stryd for a great breakdown of the device.
we're getting a taste of that weather. you guys can keep it.
Also, you will need to have an accurate height/weight setting and at some point perform the 3/9 minute test to determine your threshold power. Once you have that, the data is very meaningful and you can train in power zones. The Styrd/935 combo has been rock solid with zero drops or gaps.
In terms of treadmill speed, the Stryd is correct, the treadmill is not. Again, take a look at the review in the link above and you will see info on that topic as well. Stryd themselves have also done a test with treadmills and have proven the same thing.
i dont doubt the treadmill is off. just another reason to hate those things. but the video was 20+ minutes as it is. definitely a discussion for another day.
First impressions 21 minutes??
i know. this one kind of got away from me. sorry about that.
Good to hear what you think if the stryd foot pod! I'm keen to get my hands on one as having power out as a measure is better a measure of your efforts in different running sessions. Here is a good article on using power to help with running.
www.executivestyle.com.au/power-meters-can-help-you-become-a-faster-and-more-efficient-runner-h13lz3
I'll check it out. Thanks!
you have an unusual talking cadence
It is just the tip of a giant iceberg of idiosyncrasy in a sea of awkwardness
kofuzi no sweat, all respect brotha
Was hoping to listen to music with my feet.😭😭😭 So sad......
Hahaha!