Zach Bitter: Ultramarathon Running | Lex Fridman Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:58 - The marathon mentality
9:07 - The psychology of quitting
20:13 - Variety in ultramarathons
27:29 - What does it take to run 100 miles?
32:52 - Leading ultramarathon events
36:33 - Training and race strategy
39:03 - 100 Mile world record
43:05 - Foot strike variability and cadence
45:54 - The 11 hour barrier
49:21 - The most beautiful thing about running
55:43 - Zach's training regime
1:00:30 - MAF 180 Formula
1:10:55 - Training plans
1:25:54 - Marathons vs. 100 miles
1:34:55 - Zach's diet philosophy
1:49:43 - Fueling for race day
1:56:58 - Training while fasted
2:00:35 - Embracing the chaos
2:02:05 - 100-Mile treadmill WR
2:06:15 - The legend of Bert Kreischer
2:10:40 - The Transcontinental Run across America
2:28:15 - Who is the greatest endurance athlete of all time?
2:35:29 - Shoe technology in running
2:48:39 - Human limits
2:51:14 - Zach's biggest obstacles
2:54:58 - Advice for young people
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0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
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1:58 - The marathon mentality
9:07 - The psychology of quitting
20:13 - Variety in ultramarathons
27:29 - What does it take to run 100 miles?
32:52 - Leading ultramarathon events
36:33 - Training and race strategy
39:03 - 100 Mile world record
43:05 - Foot strike variability and cadence
45:54 - The 11 hour barrier
49:21 - The most beautiful thing about running
55:43 - Zach's training regime
1:00:30 - MAF 180 Formula
1:10:55 - Training plans
1:25:54 - Marathons vs. 100 miles
1:34:55 - Zach's diet philosophy
1:49:43 - Fueling for race day
1:56:58 - Training while fasted
2:00:35 - Embracing the chaos
2:02:05 - 100-Mile treadmill WR
2:06:15 - The legend of Bert Kreischer
2:10:40 - The Transcontinental Run across America
2:28:15 - Who is the greatest endurance athlete of all time?
2:35:29 - Shoe technology in running
2:48:39 - Human limits
2:51:14 - Zach's biggest obstacles
2:54:58 - Advice for young people
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Thank You Lex! Best of Luck with Your Journey ❤️ You Man!!!! You inspire me!
Guy doesn't seem particularly bitter. Misleading title. Consider changing
You're the best Lex. I followed you in your journey from asking advice from Joe Rogan to having one of the most interesting and professional podcasts out there. I personally love the scientists on the show. I use your podcast to fall asleep at night (bit of an odd compliment but anyway), I put them on, close my eyes and enjoy an expert explaining why there should be another planet out there. Next night I put on the same podcast around where I dozed off and do it all again. Your guests are intriguing and always of the highest quality. Thank you for all your efforts, it is truly appreciated.
Top Class Podcast Lex Thank You !!£ … could you do a bodybuilder please ???
The best thing I ever learned of from the JRE is Lex Fridman
For sure
Just stopped joes episode to watch lex! Lol
Same
And now i only watch Lex
Joe passed down the crown
I was a triathlete and the part I loved most was running! I have a hard time meditating, and Ive found that running longer distances gives me what we call "Flow"! Your mind is beyond space and time, I could stay on "autopilot" for almost 15 km and never feel pain and at distances up to 40 km, I came out and in of this "Flow"! Its the greatest spiritual moments Ive experienced!
Yes I felt the same way.. No stress, just auto pilot
Yes, you described it perfectly. I would literally feel like I was on cruise control with just my thoughts.
This is why I don't listen to audio when I run because it keeps me from drifting into flow.
Similar experiences here. After 10mi, for me, the mind starts getting really quite, and after 20mi mark, the mind just dissolves.
@@mtbjason4 Due to a back inury I have not been able to run, greater distances. I was so addicted to my sport that I went into a massive depression and did even start smoking when I was around 35. Now Im 45 and can start running again. But Ive postponed it for weeks! The first few weeks are brutal if you havent been able to exercise like you once did. But today Im buying new shoes and perhaps I wont reach the levels I used to be on? But I have to find meaning in my life so Im gonna try to make a plan on how long and how far I will run, for each day.
I ran my first ultra last year (Heysen, 105km ). Amazing experience. Now completely hooked. I was inspired partly by Goggins initially. That kind of motivation got me going but now it’s more chill/meditative (while training even harder). You end up with a “new normal”. Crazy fitness levels and mental strength. Troubles begin to bounce off you. You will also notice how others react which is interesting. Most won’t get it. They will tell you to reconsider. Never let their weakness and self doubt pass onto you. I never want to go back and it’s improved my quality of life and thought process immensely.
Amazing!
Feel this 100%. On to my 5th ultra and everything you’ve summarized I agree with and can attest to. Born to run, it’s a beautiful journey.
Zach is the man. I notice how the biggest savages are usually the most chill
He looks terrible. Emaciated. Working out everyday is great, makes me healthy and happy and ripped. Running 100 miles is a mental illness. Obsessive and very bad for the joints and organs. Not a testament to a strong will, a testament to running away from something painful. Better than an opiate or alcohol addiction, but an unhealthy addiction nonetheless. . .not hating, currently resting between jump rope sessions at the bball court and then meeting a friend for lunch after a 1 hour workout. Not jumping rope until my feet bleed and i piss myself. . very sick dude. Hope he gets help
💩☝
"you never meet a hater doing better than you" is a qoute that you should know. @@johnnyblaze9543
I was wondering how long it would take Lex to bring up Goggins... 5 minutes.
1:45 actually
Hahahaha Lex “Always Mentions Goggins” Fridman
@Tom I've been waiting for so long
I ran about 1/4 mile of my 3 mile hike this morning. Look out Zach Bitter, here I come!
Love that Rogan and Lex have folks like Zach on. Incredibly helpful even for experienced runners.
Zach is such a chill dude. Love listening to this guy talk, you feel the passion
Lex always looks like a lawyer who is asking his innocent client to take the plea deal.
I have run for years and can't do a 6:35 mile. I can't imagine doing that pace for 100 miles, mind blowing 🤯
I've achieved it once in my life, and it was a 1 mile road race!
I can relate with what Lex said in the intro so much, having a overthinking mind and negative one at that, at 38 yo, instead of focusing on positives and couple success I have achieved.
I'm focusing on regrets, what I could have done better, mortality, judging my younger self with the version of who I am today. If I really enjoy the things I am doing. Running really helps me clear my mind and stop taking everything so seriously.
The fact that somebody smart like Lex with a very interesting life struggles with invasives thoughts like this as well makes me think I'm not too crazy.
Not achieving enough early in life can make you very resiliant and make you achieve a lot more later on. I started running last year, been doing boxing and kickboxing for around 10 years but was never a good runner. Stopped anti depressants around the same time I started running. Already achieved running a marathon. Now running a half marathon as a long run every weekend.
Where I was fearing discomfort in the past, I now chase it, I want to run as many different marathons as I can and at the same time travel the world. I hope it can motivate some people and would gladly chat to anyone relating to my situation.
I wish if I had enough time to listen all your podcasts. I love to listen you. Thanks Lex for contributing to my life.
I used to have a never quit running mindset. Then got some foot injuries and basically was still trying to run and nearly disabled myself. Now on a 6 month break. I should have taken time out instead of ignoring the pain.
Ya man I understand that pain, get well soon
0:59 "The hardest part is I'm left alone with my thoughts..."
That's so funny to hear! I have chronic anxiety/insomnia/avoidance problems. I can't close my eyes and be alone with my thoughts to go to sleep most of the time. But running in the park at sunrise is a wonderful peaceful time for me. Maybe my morning thoughts are just happier thoughts than my evening thoughts.
Ultramarathons changed my life entirely. The humility and patience you gain from the training and the execution of a long waited goal feels so sweet. And after one you’ll (hopefully) be hooked and searching for the next journey.
It’s an amazing sport that I’m blessed to participate in.
Thank you for this episode! I am a new ultra runner and 100% appreciate your effort to help people think clearer.
Took care af granddad, 5 years. Held his hand til the end. Alheimer.
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Merci Lex.
This one gets me through some tough times in the past. Thanks.
1 Of the best things I’ve ever learned from the JRE is Lex I absolutely agree 100%
Listening while running is very satisfying.
two of my favorite personalities talking to each other…Fantastic interview
really well done
Great description of what racing is and its essence. I absolutely see myself in those wise words, thank you very much for sharing your feelings Lex. Cheak on Kilian Jornet, it would be great to have him in your podcast.
Zach is a great guy. Always super humble and willing to talk to anyone.
This should be interesting. I always loved hearing from David Goggins. Now I can hear from Zack.
After listening for awhile I got to thinking about how spiritually healthy this is. They both have a thankful attitude and it rubs off on me.
Thank you so much Lex. Truly love this. Truly!
Great episode. Zach is the man. Lex, you are a great interviewer.
I am a former ultra runner--deep into the scene in the late 90s ...in my 20s. I still run, but have no real urge to run more than 5 - 10 miles anymore. I find that the need to run to the extent to train for ultras was coincident with significant mental health issues. As my anxiety and mental health improved, my need to spend so much time running was reduced. I think most of the people I ran with in those ultras were not in the best mental place.
Would you agree that many of the people who are attracted to such feats of physical endurance and pain are hooked on the fact that they feel control over the replacing of the inner torment with the outer
Tremendous podcast. Keep up the good work
This was the best podcast year to date.
That intro was compelling! Lex you are a word smith!! I’m gonna go do it run now
Yes do more of these! Id love to see lex speak to other professional athlete's from other sports especially a UFC Fighter, NBA Player, NFL Player, Olympic Gold Medalist, ect.. These people are super bad ass! Love to know what they're perspectives on life is, are and how they're minds work. Sick episode, hope to see more with some super athletes !
Lex has gotten me through some rough times. Thank you Thank you Thank you
Great great podcast! As a Saffa, loved the Comrades reference. Zach is spot on about taking the sport forward, if not taking humanity forward, he really has done that and it's great that he is so articulate as well. I have come across the idea of heart rate training lots of times in the past but I think Zach is really good at articulating the science but also walking the talk as it were. Looking forward to adopting this method of training.
My running days are over but hiking and backpacking over distance is still a favorite. Many of the same feelings manifest. It's something I think everyone should go through.
This guy runs an ultra marathon at a faster pace than my 10k. Good ego check this.
He does training runs faster than my 5k pace.
I can't run a mile so you all impress me.
Hey Lex, I'm deeply in love your channel ! If I may make a request, as you know we're in environmental crisis. Hence, I was thinking maybe it would be interesting to see you pull out good interview, as you always do, of interesting people who have interesting solution to the problem. Peace to you amigo !
Yes pretty please!
I think we know the solution, it's just a matter of convincing the people in power to double down and stop denying/ignoring
This conversation was beautiful ❤ Thanks a lot 🙏🏻
🤍 from London
J.
Another great show Lex!
Another great conversation.
Zach Bitter was a faculty member at Clark Street Community School in Middleton, WI when I went there as a student. I was fortunate to spend some years interacting with him. He left the position to go pursue his dream of running in AZ and it's cool to see where he's at now!
Is Zach from Middleton? I live in west Madison and work in Middleton. didn’t know he lived over here
@@bdtravels5620 Not sure if he's originally from Middleton but he taught there for some year for sure
Wow this a great interview. Questions were on point
Constructive criticism: Every question you ask does not need to be followed by a multiple choice test. Ask the question and chill. Let them decide how to answer. I love the show and I love your quest for self improvement.
Listens during my 5am long run. Definitely going to be late to work 🤟
Mr. Lex I hope you have gotten a chance to go Barton Springs in the early morning for a swim. An Austin gem in my opinion.
52:15 "so, there's a sense in which training is a kind of preparation towards race day, and race day being the thing where you get to be the artist, you get to create this piece of art, and they might suck, might be beautiful." this just blew a door wide open for me, thank you!
This is a great video!
Heres an unusual suggestion, talk with Ricky Carmicheal, the GOAT.
I ran multiple Comrades marathon 90km and he's 💯 right about the multiple feeling of simulation. But the results are unbelievable.
Thanks always Lex. So appreciative of your work.
Great introduction
Artic explorer Vilhjalmur Steffansson promoted pemmican as an ideal endurance/survival food. When tested on Canadian on soldiers they showed the dangers of trying to shift diets on the short term. It takes time to adapt.
Thanks for the upload ! love your episodes. my favorite episode is with Yenomi Park
I know alot of people who didnt quit and had their bodies or the circumstances do it for them. Picking your battles as you build your strength is the only sure way forward.
Yes. Very interesting lex. Thanks, for the upload !
Is it possible to have very good performance in strict strength sports
Altras are incredible shoes! Congrats on discovering the best shoes you'll ever own
KILIAN JORNET should be a Future Quest
Great interview. Wide ranging, but full of detail and personal anecdote - from both sides. It also reflected the truth that I know from my own very limited endurance sport experience. Excellent.
Some twitch streaming of this transcontinental run would be cool
hello Lex, thanks for great conversations. WHen should we expect the run with Goggins? Best
Lex, have you had a guest discuss CBI? ( Computer brain interface). That would be interesting
Where can I get those Altra shirts and hats? The website doesn’t have much apparel.
Good video,
I love that Lex has a mythos about drinking
Thank you. My why is so that others may live
wow, I'll be sharing the intro to friends who ask me why I run.
Zach weirdly looks like Andrew Robertson, which is funny given that he runs the most in Liverpool. Great Interview Lex.
Carbs are for performance. Don’t expect high sport results with low carbs
I love how his hat says buff.... LMFAO!!!!
Great interview! Curious what either of you guys think of the “Hardest Geezer’s” current project to run the entire length of Africa.
Hey lex, I’m just 3 hours south of Austin in corpus. I’m currently training to run beach to bay, which is a full marathon. It’s on October 30th. You should consider it. That would be a great way for me to attempt to find you and try to get you to read a paper I wrote on machine autonomy that I’m hoping to use for grad school admissions ;) just airing out an insane idea people don’t take it too seriously 🤔
I also have to come up with a system which prevents me from quitting, man... you are not alone.
Hi Mr Lex,
Great episode as always, I am wondering about what an incredible fortune to meet all of these great minds around the world, I hope if I can be one now.
I was curious if there's an opportunity to have me as a guest, frankly as an undergraduate boy who has quirky confidence on how he has a sort of interesting perspective about life.
I can advise the episode, I think it could be "2021 Undergraduate in emerging world prospective, etc" or you can name it ofc.
Disclaimer: I am not from a fancy school in the US.
If you’re a famous enough name in STEM or academia Lex will contact you. Even if you are a big name STEM person as an undergrad, he would contact you, you wouldn’t request to be on his podcast. Or he would have a podcast of public perception of X instead of a show that interviews STEM people and academics
You sound delusional about your perceived value or market appeal
1:10:25 damn i wonder where their minds are at after like the first hour if they have to keep such focus. they're literally just one efficient running machine o.o
Monster off the table lmao
i listen to Lex all the time, but recently started runnning 3 months ago and been looking into the ultra scene, this is a treat thanks
you will damage your heart
@@intramotus loool college xc runner, army vet, i think il be ok buddy
thanks bro dab the real
"hypercarnivore sounds really unhealthy but it feels so good" so do most unhealthy things
Interesting invocation of the sunk cost fallacy in the mid-race “why am I doing this” discussion. A different way of thinking about it might be to consider the fitness and strength you have built and whether the current effort is a good use of that capacity (asset). Sometimes cutting losses (quitting the race) is the rational thing to do. So much of a good result in an ultramarathon is beyond your control on a given day. But it is important to have discipline and a good information to make that decision. As the saying goes, it doesn’t always get worse. And if it is simply miserable it is usually better to keep at it to finish the race because the competition is almost certainly suffering too.
Historically there was a lot of anecdotal references including Charles Darwin who noted the incredible endurance of humans on a carnivore diet.
Never give up.
❤️
Sir u invent tree sensorable Ai algorithm or power acceptor large machine India. This power acceptor help update new type quantum computer
Altras are the best shoes I have ever tried
Lex, interview Camille Herron. She just knocked 2 hours off the Spartathlon ladies record.
Lex rex... 👍👍👍
Interview Lionel Sanders!!!!
Lex Friedman is my hero.
I have ADHD pretty bad. I quit things easily. Little things can bother me and get me out of my zone. I was never able to run long distances due to focus issues. Ten years ago I tried trail running along with edibles. There was a huge learning curve, but the self experiments were worth it.
The trails were perfect for someone like me that gets bored easily because you never know what's around that turn or up that hill when running a trail. If I was running on the street and I can see this long straight path in front of me I wouldn't make it because that shit was boring.
Edibles allowed me to go deep on my runs and settle in. I would hit flow state daily on my runs and once I would notice it I would immediately lose it lol. Eating edibles is slippery slope especially when it comes to dark thoughts on long lonely runs
My average runs now are 14 miles with 2700 ft of gain. I microdose mushrooms and edibles for each run.
Glad youre running too.
When are you having David Goggins on???
@@user-wu2jk2th8x FAKE
Lex..I solved my self doubt by outsourcing it to my Russian wife. Now I have no negative internal voice, but a negative external voice, which can be easier to manage and never talks during training. She would tell you to grow a pair and get that start up going already.
woot
Call Jovica Spajic, or Novak Djokovic. :)
Lex make a patreon
Let’s get weird
Guys we need Rogan to make a podcast with slavoj zizek that won’t never happen so let’s get lex to do it!
very interesting interview, the furthest I've run is 70Miles with a 30 minute break, I mainly stuck to 10 Miler races. I never had to get in shape for those. Now I only have one leg so running is out the window for me
Military injury?
Damn, 12:02 hit hard
Sam Harris? Do they mean Sam Long the Ironman triathlete? I don't know an endurance athlete named Sam Harris. Just the quack pop philosopher. Is he also an endurance athlete? If so, cool. Also, the runners high also works for cross training. If I get out to the Y to swim or lift weights I feel good the whole day, but if not I feel like the day hasn't started.