I found my new FAVORITE DIRT BIKE - Beta Demo Day
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Gary and Central Vermont Motorcycles hosted a Beta Demo event to test ride the 2022 models.
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Never heard this one before lol but it’s funny!!
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I ride a KTM 200 and it's my favorite bike so far! Not necessarily the most competitive bike (I'm also kinda slow), but it's a an absolute blast to ride which is why I ride in the first place. Would definitely recommend!
Remember, the oldie but goodie, KDX200 has a cult following. Adam, “Adam does dirt bikes” has been running his in hard enduros. Mind you that he is not nipping at Billy Bolt’s heals with it, but he is still getting it done. The beta dealer that I bought my Xtrainer from said he loves his 200.
Always love your commentary lol
Please get the 200 and tell us how you go with hard enduro.. I rode one a while back and loved it but I do wonder if they have the lug we need..
It would sick if you got a 200 for hare scramble races
As much as you push your bike in a hard enduro, I think the 200 would be best for you. it's lighter, therefore, easier to push which means less energy being used.
200's, especially the newer Beta 200's are silly fun to ride! I recent bought a 250rr, but it was a very close call between that and the 200.
😂🤙
It’s 5% lighter. You’re not gonna notice that. But you would notice the huge loss of power
Sometimes abit more power makes obstacles easier and less energy consuming.
Trying to decide, 200 or 300??? I'm 67 and 5'8, I'm fit but the ktm 500 excf is kicking my ass in tight difficult single track even though i shortend up suspension 1"...
If you think the 200 was fun in this terrain, wait till you get in some Hard Enduro Stuff, it's so light and manageable. Plenty of power for the hills even at my fat 200lbs! The big difference is the end of the day you are less worn out from the 300 pulling you all day! You have to pay attention to what gear you are in more than on the 300, but the 200 is your friend all day...every day!
Wanted to see the Xtrainer in this test. All the Betas are fun!
I was a Beta dealer for 5 years at my auto repair shop in Marquette Mi, that's right, home of the Mad Moose hard enduro, I'm sure you remember that one Zack. I'm a Sandstormer club member and we ride that shit exclusively. The 350 has been my favorite Beta, that motor is amazing, but I'm a 4 stroke guy. If I was to go back to a 2 stroke it would be the 200 hands down, also an incredible motor but so much lighter and nimble. If I do get another Beta it will be the 200.
I have had my 200RR 2 years in February. I have not ridden my KTM 300 one single time since I bought the 200 RR. It is just so fun and versatile!
Now you see why a lot of us love riding the small bore bikes. They're just more fun and you expend less energy in the nasty stuff. That said, for me it would probably be the 250 race edition for most situations. A 250 is like a 200 on steroids. BTW, Zach, please adjust the color in your software. It looks like you're riding orange KTM's and not red Betas!
The 200 has a 125 frame. I don't think the 250 does.
The 200 is awesome. I have tried the 350, 390, 250 and 300 race editions and by far the 200 is my favourite. It is so light and nimble, yet will pull 3rd up technical climbs, love it a lot. More like a lower powered 250 than a big 125. I would say for the smaller rider this bike can do technical terrain no problem.
Beta 250 2T is absolutely perfect. I love my 300 race but the 250 is so damn fun to ride
I went with a 250rr. And love it. It’s the most capable of the all in my opinion. Great video. Thank you.
I can see how the 250 fills the void between the 300 and 200 perfectly. Think I'll stick with my 250 carby myself.
Wait when did betas become orange
Properly setup Xtrainer 300 with boano and lainer rear shock is perfect for me.
I've been kind of dreaming of yz125 lately, I'll have to add beta 200 to the dream now
Honestly the 200 and the 250 rr where my favorites, and I'm coming from a 2017 crf 450r 🤣
As a fellow 200 rider I love my Ktm 200. I would 100% recommend the 200, it’s so light and nimble and most of all puts the biggest smile on my face.
What puts a 😃 on my face is riding my 150sx. Now that's LIGHT 🥰
I have a 2022 300rr on order which will likely be in very soon. I also recently attended a local demo day and rode the same bikes. I am second guessing a 200rr as well but need a do it all bike which includes connecting trails with streets for local riding as well as events. I'm coming off a kdx220 which is near the make weight as the 200. I guess either is a great choice but I'm going through analysis paralysis! I going to hold on to your comment that you wouldn't get rid of your 300's solely for the 200. I will say I really enjoyed the 250 out of the bunch but feel the 200 and 300 will have a better resell when the time comes to get rid of them.
I have been watching you guys for so many years. Your one of those RUclips channels that is just genuinely funny when it’s comes to commentating. I remember watching you as a smaller teenager and getting all exited to go rip my ttr125l😂😂 keep it up. Post more videos!!
I've just got the 200rr and put 10hrs on it,and couldn't live without it now🤩
good demo..bad that was not the proper condition to test it, btw .. what camera use here ..or why is so wide the view field... use another lens?
I have two Yamaha WR450’s and wouldn’t trade ‘em for anything. Ran the Corduroy Enduro on one this year. Only thing I struggled with was the cable clutch and arm pump. Got a Rekluse on order. They say it’s like cheating! Good! At 62 I need a few cheat codes. Gotta love the big bores. Bonus that all the Beta’s are street legal!!!
Ktm 200 exc is my all time favourite off-road bike, for me nothing was as fun to ride and they're quick too but it was more about the shear enjoyment I had with mine that makes it my number 1 pick. I am curious what the other 200s are like such as the GASGAS before KTM bought them over and the beta that you loved so much. 200 is just the sweet spot for fun
Loved my 2004 KTM 200 EXC it was my last bike before I had to retire from riding from medical issues, God I miss riding dirt bikes! I had so much fun on all my 200's three KDX 200's and a XR200 and last was my KTM 200.👍
You sold me on Beta. I went and bought a 2022 Beta 300 rr two months ago. Love the low end grunt and smooth power. You're a great salesman.
I’ve had my beta 200 for a little over a year now and absolutely love it
The 200 was easily my favorite, I liked it so much I bought one and it's been my sole bike for the year. With a couple of cheap easy mods you can easily improve that bottom end.
@mont797 what cheap easy mods did you do to increase the 200s bottom end?
Know that the 390 is just a longer stroke 350 so more torque down low, Perfect 4t size imo. That 200 is sic, prob suits your size too haha
Picked up a 2021 500 RR-S along side my 2020 300 RR race edition, and that 500 got a lot more hours put on it this last season. I need the suspension reworked on the 300 though, to hopefully put her back in the spotlight, before I try the Austrian brand(s)
i also bought a 2022 300rr back in October and i took a chance because i have never rode or even sat on a beta before, coming from an older ktm 300 and various 4 strokes. I really like how easy and fun the 300rr is to ride, for me it is an excellent woods only bike. i have a crf 450rx also so i would pick the 500 as a second beta to compare with the 450.
I've been hearing better and better things about the beta bikes.
Thanks for your perspective. 🔥💪
I bought my son a 150xcw, after a few rides i traded him my 250xc. Now you got me wantin that 200
I wish I had your 2019 yz250f
200 with flywheel weight.Hit those hard enduro's.
Now for me the Yamaha YZ 250 is the one I just love to shred on. I love a nice hit and aggressive power. I’m old school though and can’t be changed from Yamaha. My wish dream bike would be for Yamaha to come out with a mean hard core YZ500 2 stroke!! Water cooled and engine design completely based off of the YZ250, so the same type of cylinder/power valve design except bigger. Could you imagine the brutal power!!
Hey mate did you know that BRC(canadian) makes an awesome 500 2 stroke engine , and you can fit one in a YZ 250, there is a RUclips clip on it , may mod my YZ 250 in future in a YZM red and white 💪
@@ildoc66 I seen that and wow would it be awesome.
I had the same experience on our Beta demo day. I have a 2031 TE300i. But this 200 was pure excitement and fun.
Dudes livin o. The future over here 😉
Did a Beta Demo day a few months ago and couldn't get over how much fun the 350 was. All bikes were great, (Absolutely loved the dual sport horns and imagining how utterly annoying they'd be in a race) but the KYB on the race editions handled the higher speed bumps and chop much better. Definitely considering making the switch.
200
Bikes come and go in my stable, but my KTM 200 will never…EVER… leave
Did they not have a 125 race edition to ride? It's an amazing bike, but it would have to recommend the 200 for harescramble type riding. The 125 can be a lot of work to keep in the power during a race, at least for me lol
I attended the 2024 beta demo day in Michigan this year and while I already have a Xtrainer. I liked the 300rr to replace my xtrainer, it had smooth power weverywhere. Then I have a toss up between the 390rs and 480rr, they didn't have the 500rs at this event. I'm a a two track and singletrack rider so the 4 strokes would be my bikes for longer distances and faster riding. Not sure which one fits my style better. I felt far more comfortable on the 390 and even the 350 but I think if I'm riding at speed for any length of time the 500rs might be the way to go for my next ride.
I’m waiting on my 200 RE! Should be here any day. Thanks for the vid Zack!
I owned a 2016 KTM 200 and it was a ton of fun to leisure ride in the woods; light nimble feeling and just fun to rev! But in a race setting it was pretty hard on the wrist and in harder enduro little bit harder to get traction to hop over obstacles. I'm on a 250 XCW TPI now and I still get the revvy feeling as I did on the 200 but it has a very nice low end which helps in blipping or splattering up rocks. That and I can just lug lug lug all day.
I love the excited narration, friggin hilarious!
I'm on the fence decided between the 200rr, 200rr re or xtrainer for 2024
Ktm 200 was the most fun bike I've ever owned. Get the 200.
That is an awesome looking course.
I've had a lot of 300 KTMs over the years but I will never sell my older 200 it is so much fun. It might not be the best bike for your only bike but as a second bike a 200 is great.
I Really love your videos was hoping you would ride aide crosstrainer have you ever ridden one what do you think of them
Did 350 and 390 have same amount of engine braking? (Or none?)...not a fan of engine braking.
Your entertaining with the way you comment on all your videos
I'm a fan
Id love to put a 200 in the stable. Just looks like a super fun ride.
I have a 350 husky and it's great for harescrambles, although a 2t is the way to go for the real gnarly stuff we have here in New England
I want a 390 just not sure if it feels much lighter than my 430
We have 3 Betas in our family. Love these bikes!
I love my beta
I hate my ktm/bajaj motors
Just bought a tm so we’ll see if I like it as much as my beta or more
Just picked up the 2021 and a 1/2 Beta 300 rR and had a 2021 already
250 2t
What happened to the 125? Too beneath you? 😂😂😂
Demo days look like a blast!
I have a 200RR what a woods weapon!
Getting a beta 200 rr race tomorrow
Please get the 200
I've got a yz 250, crf300 and 450, every bike serves its intended purpose and I have a favorite for each.
Where is this? I’d move there!!
The Beta 350 is probably my favorite 4-stroke enduro bike of all time. I liked the Beta 200 as well, but after riding it back to back with a KTM 150, I decided on the latter (ended up with a Husky 150 actually). A bit less torque, but it feels way lighter and even more fun than the 200.
THE 200
Ive been racing a yz250x. At 5'7" the bike just has me feeling too stretched out. For MX (where I came from before getting in to off road) it never bothered me as it feels stable. But, I rode a crf230 in the tight trails, and felt so much better, despite blowing through the suspension.
I've tamed the motor down with the apex XC head, power valve mod, (absolutely awesome combo) and went down a tooth on the front sprocket so 2nd gear is now perfect for low speed stuff... But still, the size of the bike, and that great motor fights me all day, and I focus more on that instead of feeling comfortable enough to try and improve my skills.
I hope to see you at the Corduroy this year (2023), I'll be test riding a 200rr at the demo day, and have a feeling 2024 I'll be racing one of those and set the 250x up for moto.
too many dam commercials
I'm no Beta guy I don't know much about them, but I ripped with a 450R for a while then I started ripping in trail and down I when with YZ250. So it's what your comfortable with. I might give Beta a shot out of curiosity and maybe Gasgas
You should try out kxcr
Well. Since I have 2006 KTM 300 ex-w and I absolutely love it. The only thing is missing is the electric start. I would give her cousin Beta 300 two stroke. That would be great.
Its really unfortunate that they dont include an xtrainer with the pipe mod in these ride days. The xtrainer with the fatty pipe is everything you love about the 200, everything you love about the 300, but in a more nimble and compact package.
I’m from rutland vermont I’m so happy rutland is getting good bikes
I rode the xtrainer, then 390, and then 200. Ordered the xtrainer before demo day. I liked it. Wished I rode the 390 first, then 200, then xtrainer. I had the most fun on the 200, just a blast. But absolutely did not like the 390. I'm a small dude, 5'5" so the xtrainer is the one for me. Couldn't even come close to touching with the 390. 200 was decent.
Nice demos! Love the commentary... my vids have lots of grunts, curse words, and nonsensical gibberish... I heard the '22 300rr re has a higher compression head derived from the Rx300 MX bike. So more ponies than the standard version hopefully! Sort of looks like a '21 300rr Race Edition. The light shell and fork sliders have been red on the Euro '22 300rr re so far.
The last word updated this week on my '22 300rr Race Edition was February... Hope I can wait that long... I guess I don't have a choice... Gotta sell my 17 300rr re which has been an awesome no problem bike that's got me thru many a Texas Enduro and Hare scramble without letting me down once. A little squeaky brakes here and there but that's nothin' to worry about. Change the pads and change the fluid.. Regular racer stuff. Added the Suzuki needle to the keihin before switching to a Lectron I had from a previous bike...
i have the 300rr,love it
I am planning on buying the 350 rr race..I love that bike and 2 stroke sound..what am I saying I love all the betas 😆
Question, people complained about the 300 race forks being to stiff from factory. How was the 22? We don't get them until next year in Australia..
I would get an Xtrainer 300. You get a smaller bike that corners better in the woods and is a little lower to the ground for more control in the slippery stuff. Then you update the suspension and put a 300 RR pipe on it and adjust the power valve if you want that extra power from the 300.
Some of the reviews were saying the new 2022 300 had a more torquey motor than the 21.. but you're saying it has less punch down low and up top ?
I ride an old Honda '85 XR350R and did a demo run hoping to get a feel of the Beta 350 but both were down that day. I really liked the 200 2-stroke also.
430 all the way for me. But I am 225 and riding mostly desert here in CA... Nothing like letting that top end grunt and pull. I used to race a 125 and loved it but at that time I was 165. Sold it to my buddy and it still starts first kick. 1992 CR 125.
Unless you're racing for money, the ONLY thing that matters is how much fun you're having. You need a 200!
Fun vid. Bikes look almost KTM color for some reason. LOL. Must have been some filter or setting?
Zach appreciate the video, but you are happiest with a wide open throttle, and a little bike allows you to enjoy that more. Nothing wrong with that, but you were exposed on the 1st bike when you scared yourself punching the 500 on the grass track. You found the bike most comfortable for you, just as you stated. Results for others will vary, for me at the demo days the 500 was the top bike, but I own one and know how to use if effectively. Again, that is the bike for me, not you.
I demoed the 500 and it was an absolute weapon including through a very technical section
Well I have 1 ktm sxf 350 as my bike right now. loving it. I ride mostly motocross. But I ride enduro sometimes aswell. I have been dreaming about getting an older ktm 200. That Beta seems so much fun! If I had the cash i´d go for it. Maybe the 300 is more competative, so its a question on what u want. More fun or maybe a placing or two.
Awesome review! I’m struggling to choose between a 300 and a 430 for my next bike, I’ve had a crf450x for 7 years and want something lighter and not so much hard work in the tight stuff. I was just about set on a 300 till I heard your thoughts on the 430 and 390, making it hard to decide again 😂 subbed from 🇦🇺 🤘🏼
Awesome vid, but com' on man, what about the XT?? The XT is gaining ground and forming it's own amazing community. We know it's not an RR, but give it a try! Thanks!
I've had so many dirt bikes over the last 15 years that i can't remember them all, i currently have a YZ250FX (which is a great all round bike), and a KTM 200 EXC with a Rekluse left hand rear brake lever and Rekluse clutch. the KTM 200 is not only the best bike i've had for just the fun factor but also as an amazing little enduro weapon. I would seriously consider giving it a go. Just remember that although it has a Rekluse clutch, you can use the clutch all day long like a normal bike with clutch, (you just won't stall it).
I’d say a 200 only bc im a big 125 person I love a 250 2 stroke but I’m a tall but skinny guy and it feels like to much bike for me I like low end I use mid range the most racing and climbing and I love having Thst top end when you need to get places
I grabed a 2021 250RR and it deff hauls the mail!! Absolutely love it and the fact its street legal its just such fun whipping past a cop on a fully legalized 2 stroke rippa!! Really would love to take that 200 for a whirl
Very interesting and entertaining review, Zach. How come these beta's were orange instead of light red/pink? Also, what do you think about the new Stark Varg?🔌
I had KTM 200 and 250. The 200 is a great bike and had a smaller frame in 2007 M.Y. as well... but I ended up sticking with 250s. Running a FMF Gnarly pipe on the 200 made the low end comparable to the 250 but I always wanted the extra top end to get the front wheel up at speed easier.
I really wish you would have spent a few more minutes on the 250 I'm thinking the 250 would have just been a 200 with a bit more oomph... I have a 250 and a 300 and I find them to be radically different in all the ways that you were talking about the 200 to the 300
Awesome. I watched the whole video and all the bikes. I just got my 300 RR Beta and I have to say I love it . As for getting another Beta I’ll keep my 300 and get the 200 Also. It seemed like you really enjoyed riding the 200 RR Beta . Great video. Perfect
I had a 2008 Ktm 200 with a flywheel weight on it and it was dreamy. I imagine a much newer bike would be the ultimate. So wish I wasn’t poor.
no 125 test? :-)
When is Beta making you a factory hard enduro rider? Time to get you PRO, you deserve it!