3:54 "On the other hand, Norsca is basically Chaos but good." Hah, that's funny. But in all seriousness, for those that don't know: Norsca also kinda suck, but for different reasons than Chaos.
@@deadlyydude5522 i was thinking the same thing and honestly chaos is probably better off than norsca only because i feel their artillery and infantry is better but that may just be bias talking
Norsca is the one bastion of freedom standing strong against the imperialist ambitions of the Ordertide. Only the true sons of the North know that leading Norsca to it's rightful place as the leader of the free world is the real purpose of the game! ;) Seriously, playing Norsca felt like my first game as the Empire in Warhammer 1, everybody wants a piece of your territory!
As a chaos player, I was a little sad at the small amount of love shown to Chaos. Then Khorne showed up in Total War 3 and I realized they were just saving the best till last.
I actually enjoy Bretonnia conceptually as it's effectively zealous crusader knights in a completely bizarre grimdark fantasy realm. I also like the Empire as just random dudes fighting against the massive tides of chaos & vampires. Think it adds flavor to have sort of blander human factions to contrast the world around them.
@@stephensmith7327 the empire is not a democracy. It is an electoral monarchy where the Emperor is elected from the elector counts (pretty much exactly how the Holy Roman Empire worked, which of course the Empire takes lots and lots and lots of influence from.)
@@stephensmith7327 Asur are closer. The Phoenix King is chosen by a massive council of representatives from all across Ulthuan, consisting of high princes, mages, scholars, and other high-ranking individuals. A number of them are even lowborn.
I mean you mock the high elves but give credit to Imirk, the only cool High Elf because he said “the donut is gay, I’m out” and went to go wrestle dragons instead which is just a way fucking cooler thing to do.
On the downside, he's the most pompous of them all. He probably left the donut because he thought he was that much better than everybody else. Which is kinda true, to be fair.
"Once you pay 60 bucks for 10 figures of Witch Elves, spending another ten on dozen of new units suddenly doesn't feel so bad." xD Warhammer fan live in a nutshell.
Bonus points for Alith Anar for his main enemy being dark elves so at least you have something fun to fight. Also deleting enemy lords from across the map's fun.
its fun for a bit until youve killed malekith for the millionth time cause dark elves op and always control half the map by the time you meet them if you start in the old world
"Are you seeing a pattern in which factions I prefer?" You are a man after my own heart. Just from the sheer number of guns alone, I have to say that Vampire Coast is probably my preferred faction.
The empire is actually the brief window in the german HRE when pike and shot was coming in and the old sorta jank medievil warfare was dying, bretonia represents france during the medevil era.
@Matt Washer High Elves represents more England as a whole than Bretonia, while yes, Bretonia is a mix between England and France while the king of England was also a vassal of the king of France, with french speaking nobles ruling over bad-speaking lowlife filthy peasants :p
@@apalmemnom the king of England has never really been a vassal for France. We had Norman Kings but they were not vassals. In fact England owned a good potion of France at various points through the medival era.
Then you'll probably be happy to learn that it's far and away the vcoast's best unit to the point where fielding an entire army of them is a super viable campaign strategy
Wood Elves are underrated, considering they have the best archer unit in the game, incredibly strong infantry (Wildwood Ranger and the Wardancers, specially) and insane monsters. :)
They used to be complete trash, now they're... decent to play. The scatter settlement idea is lorefriendly, but it's also kinda tricky to keep all the areas protected with the meager income.
@@Olav_Hansen Wood Elves' roster has always been one of the best in the game. Their campaign used to be one of the worst, but now it's very unique and super fun if you like building tall (not a lot of that going on in WHTW). Keeping their distant strongholds secure with limited funds is kind of what makes them fun in the first place; way more fun than just painting the map one color IMO.
You forgot about the biggest meme of the vampire counts. Free skeleton upkeep. Just wander the map with about 10 armies each lead by a legendary lord and made of nothing but heroes and skeletons.
All of these races are lucky the bloons tower defense don't exist in the same universe as them. Why you may ask? Cyber Quincy would wipe them all out because nothing gets past his bow.
@@tatsumitakeshina2993 you know with 27 years I would not call myself this. However it is statisticaly unlikley that I grow old enough to outlive the current amount of LL of TWW. Yes I have been past my quarter life crises
Bretonnia and the Empire having the 'same medieval vibe?' Bretonnia is based upon the early medieval period (10th-11th century) while the empire is not even medieval anymore, but proper renaissance (15th-16th century). There is about as much time between those two periods as there is between the Renaissance and the now.
Not necessarily. I wouldn’t say the empire is “proper renaissance”, more like early renaissance as they still use more high medievalish units. I also wouldn’t necessarily put Bretonnia THAT early, they’re more like high medieval tbh.
Playing SFO grimmhammer mod actually adds a lot of flavour to empire, think lots of full plate armoured units. Combined with CBE smoke mod thingy, gunpowder go brrrr. Also dawi, just dawi. Cannons, organ guns, flamethrowers, torpedoes, blasting charges, helicopter bombers and an unbreakable shield wall of beard people. What more can a man ask for.
Taurox moo moo stomp map. No seriously, the new animations of rolling moo moos of all sizes is hilariously broken when your moombas get 100+ melee attack just by hearding up.
My Warcry warband is a group of musket men because it's a hilarious premise. Chaos cultists that replace their limbs with metal spikes versus guys with muskets getting paid pennies a day.
I like to think I’m a good guy.. *never once played a human high elf or lizard men campaign*.. well like.. I’m not a bad guy.. *goes hard on beast men, skaven, vampire coast, and dark elves*
i was born in the mid-90's, i've been sitting in front of a computer most of my life and youtube has been a cool lil companion to me ever since it started - with that in mind, i can't believe this is the first time i ever see someone refer to ratboygenius in a video. that is the grandest thing i've seen all day. godspeed lil king john
Funny thing about Empire, if you get lucky in your run and have the Warhammer version of Italy and Venice still alive, you can be secure on the southern boarders until the mass spawning of Chaos horde burns them down to the ground, thus making your expansion south almost as mandatory as keeping the north intact. But you can still burn the Wood Elves if they piss you off long enough with little problem to your diplomatic influence.
"it makes me feel old, so I hate it. Which is probably what the tomb skeletons think about the rest of the world" Tomb Kings and Necrons in a nutshell.
"high elves are easy." Ohhh boy wait till you play Imrik, who everyone declares war on for no reason, even the other high elves. Nothing like having three factions at war with you since near the beginning, and then multitudes of maxed lords late game.
Love the vid, but Empire is based on post European renaissance (hence the guns and colorful uniforms), not Medieval Europe. The Empire and Brettonnia are literally based in 2 totally different time periods, which is why I love the dynamic
@@theStamax Well... The HRE is basically germany with some add-ons. And that's reflected in Warhammer as well, when you consider that their language is basically german and like half of the empire cities are named after existing places in germany.
@@darthplagueis13 Absolutely. I took issue with the statement "empire IS germany" as I don't think this is entirely true. It obviously is based on the HRE (this goes beyond culture btw ... it's also similar politically), which as you stated correctly consisted in large parts of what would later become Germany. That being said, it wasn't only that and stretched all the way to Italy. It's based on the HRE and received a german flavored color of paint, which makes it only surface-level similar to Germany (language) and much closer to the HRE in everything else. edit: also there are other countries in Europe speaking german, so technically having german as the language doesn't really limit it to portraying on country. The HRE meanwhile covered all these countries to some extend.
To be honest, those wood elf archers are damn good cuz of their range and speed. Would choose those anytime instead of handgunners which are just useless cuz they are too easy to obstruct.
Bretonnia is the entire personification of why I never got into fantasy works as a kid and even tried to stay away from them. Of course this has changed now, but I mean, just look at the background of their unit cards, specially their infantry ones and even more so the Peasant Mobs'.
"Paradoxal amount of DLC's". I see what you did there!
Wait for the brettonian dlc thats lets you marry your vassalized pope horse councilor.
Paradox>CA when it comes to dlc amount
Yes but unlike paradox the dlcs are actually decent. Except for that stupid fucking blood dlc
@Dana Pierce Oh... oh, no... if the user is a Portuguese speaker, then I got the pun that is being made with the word here...
@@d0pep3nguin27 CA has better dlc for how much it costs.
"it makes me feel old, which is probably what the tomb skeletons think about the rest of the world" 😂
You forgot the "and I hate it"
necrons
What about summoning lord admiral spire into this game? What will happen then. Crossing fantasy and the wh40k. The warp links them at least.
“An entire army of scooby doo villains” why does this make so much sense?
Nearly shat myself at that no lie
Jenkies
3:54 "On the other hand, Norsca is basically Chaos but good."
Hah, that's funny. But in all seriousness, for those that don't know: Norsca also kinda suck, but for different reasons than Chaos.
@@deadlyydude5522 i was thinking the same thing and honestly chaos is probably better off than norsca only because i feel their artillery and infantry is better but that may just be bias talking
Ooh ooh aah aah walls bad
Well thats fighting over last place, so....
Norsca is the one bastion of freedom standing strong against the imperialist ambitions of the Ordertide. Only the true sons of the North know that leading Norsca to it's rightful place as the leader of the free world is the real purpose of the game! ;) Seriously, playing Norsca felt like my first game as the Empire in Warhammer 1, everybody wants a piece of your territory!
Norsca’s campaign is actually pretty decent on lower difficulties but they are very poorly scaled for the higher difficulties.
As a chaos player, I was a little sad at the small amount of love shown to Chaos.
Then Khorne showed up in Total War 3 and I realized they were just saving the best till last.
Not just khorne but all 4 chaos faction that is including slaneesh
Yea game 3 is gonna be the chaos merry go round from hell literally
Half the map is about chaos for game 3. I love chaos for some reason.
"Saving best till last"
No, they're just a terrible company that makes horrible games.
And my god, is chaos so much fun to play
I actually enjoy Bretonnia conceptually as it's effectively zealous crusader knights in a completely bizarre grimdark fantasy realm. I also like the Empire as just random dudes fighting against the massive tides of chaos & vampires. Think it adds flavor to have sort of blander human factions to contrast the world around them.
The Empire is also a Democracy in a Midieval Setting, which is very rare.
@@stephensmith7327 the empire is not a democracy. It is an electoral monarchy where the Emperor is elected from the elector counts (pretty much exactly how the Holy Roman Empire worked, which of course the Empire takes lots and lots and lots of influence from.)
@@jack6126 well, it's as close to a democracy as one could get in a Midieval Setting
Monty Python Rohirrim
@@stephensmith7327 Asur are closer. The Phoenix King is chosen by a massive council of representatives from all across Ulthuan, consisting of high princes, mages, scholars, and other high-ranking individuals. A number of them are even lowborn.
I mean you mock the high elves but give credit to Imirk, the only cool High Elf because he said “the donut is gay, I’m out” and went to go wrestle dragons instead which is just a way fucking cooler thing to do.
On the downside, he's the most pompous of them all. He probably left the donut because he thought he was that much better than everybody else. Which is kinda true, to be fair.
@@Grivehn It's what we call an EARNED ego. Yeah he is full of hot shit but he actually has things to back it up.
Eltharion the Grim and Alith Anar are both great
If the donut so gay why the dark elves want it so bad
@@johnfrancis89 Dark Elves: the embodiment of heterosexuality
"Once you pay 60 bucks for 10 figures of Witch Elves, spending another ten on dozen of new units suddenly doesn't feel so bad." xD
Warhammer fan live in a nutshell.
Bonus points for Alith Anar for his main enemy being dark elves so at least you have something fun to fight. Also deleting enemy lords from across the map's fun.
its fun for a bit until youve killed malekith for the millionth time cause dark elves op and always control half the map by the time you meet them if you start in the old world
Alith Anar is a railgun in disguise
"Are you seeing a pattern in which factions I prefer?"
You are a man after my own heart. Just from the sheer number of guns alone, I have to say that Vampire Coast is probably my preferred faction.
The empire is actually the brief window in the german HRE when pike and shot was coming in and the old sorta jank medievil warfare was dying, bretonia represents france during the medevil era.
@Matt Washer With their French accents, names, character modelled after Joan of Arc, and the faction being named after Brittany?
@@ChaoticCubizm To be fair medieval England was pretty much 1:1 medieval France just with more Welsh people
@Matt Washer but the accent?
@Matt Washer High Elves represents more England as a whole than Bretonia, while yes, Bretonia is a mix between England and France while the king of England was also a vassal of the king of France, with french speaking nobles ruling over bad-speaking lowlife filthy peasants :p
@@apalmemnom the king of England has never really been a vassal for France. We had Norman Kings but they were not vassals. In fact England owned a good potion of France at various points through the medival era.
"I have a problem." - the biggest understatement ever spoken from Oboe.
The Scooby-Do Villain moment actually made me die and resurrect as a Scooby-Do Villain
“Any discussion of warhammer 2 races has gotta start with the empire… which is why I’m starting with the dwarfs” classic. Made me laugh.
Ahh yes a look into our lord oboes tabletop gaming addiction
ngl, not into this type of game at all, but at 5:40 i was absolutely sold. the pirate ship gattling cannon mecha looks amazing
Just wait until Grand Cathay gets released. ( Warhammer equivalent to ancient china)
@@Loremaster68 And Kislev. So many bears
@@KaoKacique Who will win? Kislev ( offensive based human faction) or Grand Cathay ( probably defensive based human faction)?
Then you'll probably be happy to learn that it's far and away the vcoast's best unit to the point where fielding an entire army of them is a super viable campaign strategy
@@Loremaster68 kislev should be defensive shouldnt they? their whole thing is about being the unbreaking wall between the empire and chaos isnt it?
“The only thing that would make them more fun is if they had nuclear bombs. Annnddd they do!” Epic lol
the "WH2 has more LL than I have years to live" hit hard
Fun fact: the only factions you need to know about are lizardmen and lizardmen food
2:39 Welcome to Estalia Gentlemen
I will not lie, the chances of your survival are small
Some may even tur against your friends as living corpses
Wood Elves are underrated, considering they have the best archer unit in the game, incredibly strong infantry (Wildwood Ranger and the Wardancers, specially) and insane monsters. :)
Also they can essentially field an entire airforce of birb jets with magical cruise missiles
They used to be complete trash, now they're... decent to play. The scatter settlement idea is lorefriendly, but it's also kinda tricky to keep all the areas protected with the meager income.
all tree armies FTW
@@Olav_Hansen Wood Elves' roster has always been one of the best in the game. Their campaign used to be one of the worst, but now it's very unique and super fun if you like building tall (not a lot of that going on in WHTW). Keeping their distant strongholds secure with limited funds is kind of what makes them fun in the first place; way more fun than just painting the map one color IMO.
Except sisters of averlorne are better… so they have the second best archers.
The flow of this man's script is apocalyptic 10/10 best RUclipsr on the Tube
The Empire got renaissance vibe actually, which makes Bretonnia's medieval dirt farmer vibe even funnier
Dipping your toe back into wh2 i see. Good stuff.
I think You will love Kislevits, black powder range units, bear artillery, bear cavalierly and cool magic
Bear powder, bear units, beat artillery, bear cavalierly, bear magic, bear monster, bear bear
Those transitions from one race to another were great
Truly each was a masterpiece.
10:31 I watched this video so many times. I think this is the first time I've heard oboe Curse.
I completed a Chaos Campaign..., I was 21 now I'm limitless.. Such is what the Chaos Wastes does to us mere mortals
Can't wait for Total War Warhammer 3: Bears and Ice edition
"Bretonnia is lame"
You talking some mad shit for someone within grail retrieving distance.
I was surprised he went this whole video without a bionicle joke
First video ive watched and when the elves were shown burning and being torn to pieces i cracked an evil smile unlike ever before
OMG I feel like your "Massive crabs that can attack weak points for massive damage" Joke is SOOOOO underrated.
Youre an "incredible discovery by algorithm" on the level of Kilian Experience. I turned into a subscriber, Morty!
You forgot about the biggest meme of the vampire counts. Free skeleton upkeep. Just wander the map with about 10 armies each lead by a legendary lord and made of nothing but heroes and skeletons.
All of these races are lucky the bloons tower defense don't exist in the same universe as them. Why you may ask? Cyber Quincy would wipe them all out because nothing gets past his bow.
Skaven will still manage to get him killed. Not even plot armor can save Quincy from those greedy paws.
Except when Alith Anar shoots him first
I love your faction guides!
This video is so incredible in so many ways. Subscribed
5:06 honestly a very accurate point to the vampire counts
the Empire doesn't have a medieval vibe, it's much closer to Renaissance-era Holy Roman Empire, down to the election of the Emperor and funky hats
Damm its true. TWW2 has more LL than I have years of my live left. Truly a grave epiphany
Ok boomer
@@tatsumitakeshina2993 you know with 27 years I would not call myself this. However it is statisticaly unlikley that I grow old enough to outlive the current amount of LL of TWW.
Yes I have been past my quarter life crises
@@hangebza6625 bro, just ... stop
They’re called the High Elves because you have to be high to play them
Or you get high off of turning everything to charcoal with a swarm of dragons
Bretonnia and the Empire having the 'same medieval vibe?' Bretonnia is based upon the early medieval period (10th-11th century) while the empire is not even medieval anymore, but proper renaissance (15th-16th century). There is about as much time between those two periods as there is between the Renaissance and the now.
Not necessarily. I wouldn’t say the empire is “proper renaissance”, more like early renaissance as they still use more high medievalish units. I also wouldn’t necessarily put Bretonnia THAT early, they’re more like high medieval tbh.
@@jack6126 The Brettonians are literally based on the Normans and Arthurian legend.
@@jack6126 I mean that perfectly fits early Renaissance.
Time to do Warhammer 3 mate !!!!!
That super short clip of Thorgrim commencing battle in Ulthuan at the end brings a smile to my face.
This has got to be my favorite video on the main channel and my only experience with Warhammer is Vermintide
Skaven being furry is god trying to balance them because they were too awesome.
Probably the funniest yet very informative review I’ve watched, love your style!
Playing SFO grimmhammer mod actually adds a lot of flavour to empire, think lots of full plate armoured units. Combined with CBE smoke mod thingy, gunpowder go brrrr. Also dawi, just dawi. Cannons, organ guns, flamethrowers, torpedoes, blasting charges, helicopter bombers and an unbreakable shield wall of beard people. What more can a man ask for.
A group of halfnaked tight elves with whips?
@@Olav_Hansen
Hot
Dragons
Taurox moo moo stomp map.
No seriously, the new animations of rolling moo moos of all sizes is hilariously broken when your moombas get 100+ melee attack just by hearding up.
My Warcry warband is a group of musket men because it's a hilarious premise. Chaos cultists that replace their limbs with metal spikes versus guys with muskets getting paid pennies a day.
I like to think I’m a good guy.. *never once played a human high elf or lizard men campaign*.. well like.. I’m not a bad guy.. *goes hard on beast men, skaven, vampire coast, and dark elves*
The Empire doesnt doesn't have a Medieval vibe, the Empire is based on The Holy Roman Empire during the Renaissance period.
i'm a simple man, i see hate for the elves, i give like
i was born in the mid-90's, i've been sitting in front of a computer most of my life and youtube has been a cool lil companion to me ever since it started - with that in mind, i can't believe this is the first time i ever see someone refer to ratboygenius in a video. that is the grandest thing i've seen all day. godspeed lil king john
Brother had me laughing thru out the whole vid without cappin. Best Review Vid ever looking forward for more !
Funny thing about Empire, if you get lucky in your run and have the Warhammer version of Italy and Venice still alive, you can be secure on the southern boarders until the mass spawning of Chaos horde burns them down to the ground, thus making your expansion south almost as mandatory as keeping the north intact.
But you can still burn the Wood Elves if they piss you off long enough with little problem to your diplomatic influence.
Take over citys and makes them install mario cart 8 xD
This video is full of amazing 1 liners. Thank you
Man your narration is next level. Got a good laugh out of me. Subscribed!
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This video is way too hilarious and informative. Thank you so much, I'm a straight up noob. Helped a ton and made me laugh.
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"it makes me feel old, so I hate it. Which is probably what the tomb skeletons think about the rest of the world"
Tomb Kings and Necrons in a nutshell.
That og scooby doo music really hit home
"high elves are easy." Ohhh boy wait till you play Imrik, who everyone declares war on for no reason, even the other high elves. Nothing like having three factions at war with you since near the beginning, and then multitudes of maxed lords late game.
The high elves deserve some credit. Imrik fields the cheapest napalm based air force in the game. Screw the donut, all hail napalm.
Glad to see someone who loves the Dark Elves as much as me 👌
Another person with excellent taste
Someone put Warhammer in my bloons content. I am 100% fine with this.
Your transitions to the factions are amazingly smooth!
Oboe forgot about GELT
Love the vid, but Empire is based on post European renaissance (hence the guns and colorful uniforms), not Medieval Europe. The Empire and Brettonnia are literally based in 2 totally different time periods, which is why I love the dynamic
Also Empire is German
@@marcinkrz3140 No, it's the Holy Roman Empire with guns, which is only partially related to what would later become Germany
@@theStamax Well... The HRE is basically germany with some add-ons. And that's reflected in Warhammer as well, when you consider that their language is basically german and like half of the empire cities are named after existing places in germany.
@@darthplagueis13 Absolutely. I took issue with the statement "empire IS germany" as I don't think this is entirely true.
It obviously is based on the HRE (this goes beyond culture btw ... it's also similar politically), which as you stated correctly consisted in large parts of what would later become Germany.
That being said, it wasn't only that and stretched all the way to Italy.
It's based on the HRE and received a german flavored color of paint, which makes it only surface-level similar to Germany (language) and much closer to the HRE in everything else.
edit: also there are other countries in Europe speaking german, so technically having german as the language doesn't really limit it to portraying on country. The HRE meanwhile covered all these countries to some extend.
Great vid, more warhammer content pls
Bruh the scooby doo comparison caught me off gaurd, literally LOL at the skellie walk 😂😂😂
Love how you played ETW music when talking about the Empire 👌
Dwarves might just be my style lol. Do a shield wall with the infantry and watch the ranged units unleash hell upon enemies.
I've being going through a warhammer binge and suddenly oboe uploads a warhammer video. Fuckin' stalker, I'll tell you what
I love your humour and this video . And my god, buying all those paints Is costly
lol just about spit out my cereal at 'I should play medieval II again--taht sums up my thoughts on bretonia'
OMG that lightning bolt reference had me in tears!
Sub’dddd
Great video! And i recognize music at the end! Market of Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time :D
First Borderlands now Warhammer Fantasy Battles!? Oboe covering all my favorite franchises.
You should do one for all the races in total war warhammer 3 as well. This is my fav video to show anyone who wants to get into warhammer
Wow, the character creation, like the crabs, scaven, flame throwing dwarves and the walking ships!!
Damn!
finally someone who shares my hatredd for the empire
I appreciate the Dark Shadows reference
To be honest, those wood elf archers are damn good cuz of their range and speed.
Would choose those anytime instead of handgunners which are just useless cuz they are too easy to obstruct.
Bretonnia is the entire personification of why I never got into fantasy works as a kid and even tried to stay away from them. Of course this has changed now, but I mean, just look at the background of their unit cards, specially their infantry ones and even more so the Peasant Mobs'.
so this is the reason why you changed your streaming hours
This vid got my subscription! Great work dude!!
I just realised the Rats mod for Minecraft was featured in this video for about 1 second. Cool!
What's really great about vampire counts is that the skeletons march at the same beat as the spooky scary skeletons remix
Empire is definitely Renaissance era, not Mediæval. Other than that, good vid.
First video from your channel I've seen an I love your sarcastic humor
+1 Sub!
8:28
I started laughing when I first heard a gawblins in the sky and screaming as he came towards me.
As an exclusive Balthasar Gelt player, I enjoy spamming hellfire and raining golden fire from the heavens
The edit at 7:09 got you a insta sub and like. That fucking killed me from laughter.
total war hasnt been about strategy since shogun 2 but i hear u oboe
as a Historical Total War player, I've had lots of fun playing Bretonnia
gatling guns and third person speaking form is all what I need
*need-need
your commentary is pure comedy gold