Immediately after graduating from high school, I joined the German Navy, then studied nautical science and have been a captain on German container ships for over 15 years. And I say, even if your advice doesn't apply to me, I'm impressed by how you explain your/our work to people who are interested. The way you respond to questions from mostly young people in the comments is also great. We really need more people like you to tell the world about our great job.
That's one of the main reasons I do it. Thank you very much for the positive words. I go to Bremerhaven all the time in Germany. Been many places there and love it in Germany.
I’m 22 years old and really don’t have a direction in life. Never went to college and worked for my local police department straight out of high school (worked as a civilian for 2 years and as a police officer for a little over a year). Other than my parents and siblings, I feel like there is nothing left for me here in my current home state. With that being said, the work and lifestyle of a Merchant Mariner career path has been an interest of mine for a few months now and I’m planning on attending the SIU apprenticeship program. Thank you for posting this video as weighing the pros and cons of the job has been the one thing holding me back from making any final decisions.
Jeff, thanks for putting this info out there for the masses. I have two sons very strongly considering the merchant marines (my oldest as a rated guy & my youngest wants to become a deck officer). Regarding my oldest, he has very mild autism and is kind of socially awkward. From everything I've seen about being a mariner, I think he would fit really well as an SA because he loves routine and seems to do very well doing the same things day in and day out. He actually likes routine much more than a constantly changing work environment because he can struggle to understand directions if he doesn't hear them a few times (something supervisors can quickly get tired of). At home, he also spends a majority of his day, when not in class, isolating himself in his room. My biggest concern with encouraging him to pursue the SIU apprenticeship (which I very much do right now) is how the crews will see his social awkwardness and if they will essentially pick on him to the point of absolute misery. From a majority of the crews you've been with, would you say they will likely pick on him at first and then eventually ease up, or do many of the guys make it their mission to drive someone to the brink? Any insight to your world would be very helpful and greatly appreciated!
I'm actually going to post a new video very soon I have all my information together to make an even better more simplistic video I will be posting it when I get off the ship here... if you want we can exchange information and I can contact you and we can talk about it I'll give you my email. jbull68@gmail.com
Hey. I have Aspergers and am considering the Merchant Marine after my undergraduate studies. Could you keep me updated? And if you have any new information, could you share it?
Greetings Jeff, I am from Costa Rica and I work as a sailor like you, Greek companies one of the things that must also be taken into account is that to be a sailor you have to have an iron stomach because when there is bad weather the waves shake the boat as if it was a toy .. thanks for your videos jeff they are very interesting
I waited my entire life for this moment , but never made the big jump (not enough school credentials , took different opprotunities/paths in life , I also worked as longshoreman in my teens) I finally kicked my butt after 10 years of dreaming about it and signed up for the academy . I'm starting Monday and I just can't wait .
I Watched a couple of you guys videos. Late last year thinking about making a career change. Thank you for your videos. I'm an Over the road truck Driver. I still feel that your industry I would have done well. I also feel your career is great for alot of people that would like to Travel and have the discipline to learn online.
Im ex-navy, im middle aged and divorced now and this seems like the most logical choice for my future but i've been debating it back and forth in my mind. Thanks for your thoughts on the matter it's good food for thought.
I'm a veteran of the USMC, I'm 30 turning 31 soon, and I've hit a wall at work in both pay and advancement. Even the lower pay of the unlicensed guys would be a raise for me. This genuinely might be a saving grace for me.
There is no way to be sure it is a case by case situation but there is probably a better chance of it nowadays it seems like a labor shortage so it is more possible now than ever I think but it would be something you would need to clear with the Union and the company.
We’ll stated views Jeff. You’ve covered all the bases from my past experiences working with Mobil years ago. It’s easy work, but it’s not easy by any stretch. Thanks.
I just recently spent the last 2 years thinking about it and studying about it, but I am considering pursuing a career in the Merchant Marines. I just graduated college and honestly I have had this interest in hoping on a ship and working as a grunt on the ship. I understand it has a lot of cons like being away from family or my home, but I have a girlfriend whom I am in a very serious relationship and she supports my dream of doing this. I'm already separated from her with a 2 hour driving time already. I understand it isn't an easy job or lifestyle but I still want to give it a try. Anyways, I live close to Lake Superior on the Wisconsin side and there are Merchant Marines who work on the Great Lakes so I am familiar with the occupation. Anyways thanks for giving an honest video. I still hope I can pursue a career with the merchant marines. For me, it's not exactly the money that is motivating me although it's kind of in my mind, but I just want to travel the world. I want to see different countries, while also making a good enough living to pay off some off some of my debts and save some cash for a better financial security. I have been working in manufacturing now as a worker bee and I'd like to take those work skills into maybe the deck department. I have done a wide variety of jobs already ranging from repetitive tasks, to loading up trucks and boxes, to operating even a forklift. I don't know how much of that would carry over but I feel confident I can still go into this career, meeting all the physical demands of the job. And I know there would people I might not like but in my mind, my room on the ship would be my home away from home where I can decompress. So hopefully I can get into this line of work and maybe enjoy it.
A great video. I've been giving a lot of thought to doing this. I wouldn't want to do it for another couple of years, but it sounds like it'd be both a blessing and a curse. It might be in my future. I'll have to watch that other video and do some more looking into things. I'll need an answer before I start, of course.
Question to talk about in the future- 1. Age from the youngest to the oldest- pros and cons. What is the oldest age you can work on a ship? 2. Physical health concerns to keep in mind before taking on a job? 3. What do you do if they’re is serious emergencies at home? 4. Advantages to speaking different languages? 5. If you are sick aboard the ship do you get paid if you are sick in bed? 6. Are allowed to eat as much as you want aboard the ship?
1-minimum 17 and no age limit as long a you pass your physical exams. 2-yes, but it is addressed before you go when we take our required physical 3-you would ask to be relieved in the next port of call 4-when you are in other countries? sure...always 5-Yep 6-sure are
I was in the Norwegian Navy and then served in the U.S Navy when I was naturalized. I belong on the sea but I fear I'm too old now at 57. I would be an asset to any floating kitchen.
As far as age as long as you are healthy and able to pass the physical I don't see that being an issue.. You can even sail just a couple months a year if that is all you want to do. I have sailed with plenty of cooks your age and older.
I think the biggest factor when choosing any career is do you have a passion for it and will it make you happy in the long run or are you ready to weigh the pros and the cons. If you're telling me you only work six months out of the year, that means pay is good and you can obviously live decently if you apply yourself. There's another important point you brought up and that is the ship isn't going to turn around for you because it has to meet a tight time schedule it was on long before you came aboard.
Yes I also have a huge passion for traveling and adventure. I like to be on the move if you know what I mean. At the end of the day however I am just thankful to have my health and a job to do. It is a blessing.
Just came across your video Im 28 basically just hit a paywall and I’m a non union pipe fitter/welder /sheet metal worker and I’m looking to expand my horizons I’m married with a baby on the way but the current economy is making it hard to save up like I’d like would an engineering role allow me to work like a damage control man or a hull technician (I’m prior navy with 31/2 years at sea )
Great video. Especially if I could just do one or two voyages, it would be a great way to pay off my debt then save up a good emergency fund, then after that go back to having a normal job. Someone on RUclips said they made $18K on a 65 day grain ship before taxes. That’s also not including vacation pay. Where I’m at now I get paid $11.50/hr and get 36hr/week. Taking 20% of taxes out of that $18K is still easily $14K vs $3.3K for the same amount of time. Over 4x the pay and that was a lower paying contract.
Do you get to have the occasional opportunity to briefly explore some of the port towns that you stop in? I’m a trailer mechanic with class A license so I do a lot of recovery work around the country for our company. I’m 33, maybe it’s too late, but this seems like a pretty interesting route to look more into and explore
I don't think you're too old. That sounds like cool mechanical experience you could build upon for 2 decades easily. I used to work on tires for semis/trailers and eventually wanted to move on. You're in your early 30s man, not old, prime age.
The days where the ships roll a lot are not common. There are more days with just mild movement... even on a large ship I don't think it would be as bad as on a small ship in bad weather
Started my career in 2007 after pursuing my marine engineering ,got my chief engineer lisence in 2016 ,now In 2022 I quit sailing and opted for a shore job, the biggest con for merchant navy is distance from family ,rest all are pros
Hey Jeff been seeing you reply to people so hope you see this but i’m 21 and this job seems truly interesting to me. i have been working as an EMT for 2 years and have experience working 24 hour shifts and sleeping in uncomfortable quarters, sometimes being stuck with coworkers that weren’t the greatest, so i’ve learned some life lessons gratefully. i love to travel and don’t mind leaving home behind, i live at the beach and see ships everyday and wonder how i would like this. i feel pulled to travel and this seems like a great adventure. my only concern based off my research would be having to be stuck with a bad crew, what has your experience been? Thanks Jeff
I am a Army vet and kinda bounced around from job to job ranging from commercial HVAC to currently in the wind industry working on wind turbines which is great money but none of it has ever been a passion of mine its just here I am to work and make money but could care less about actually liking it. I have always been at peace around water and the ocean in general and obviously hard work never bothered me so I am kind of a jack of all trades with experience in different blue collar fields and this is something that actually makes me think in a positive way and could see myself actually having a passion for.
I was told to start inland as a deckhand since I have no experience. I am in the middle of a career change. My background is mechanical work for 12+ years. Is being a engineer in a ship rewarding and fun, high stress or laid back?
Recently laid off from a job I had been at for over 5 years and I'm considering trying to become a Merchant mariner which I have considered for a long time but never followed through with it. I have always been fascinated with sea travel and the way of life of those that work it. Only downside is I'm 40 years old. I however have no kids, not married and both my parents have passed away so really, I have nothing holding me back in that aspect. I can travel and go wherever. With that being said could you give me an idea on where to start? I been looking at some academies and apprentice programs but those take 2-4 years to complete if I understand it correctly. I live in Va so there is no local training for me at all, I would def have to travel to take an academy or something. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Also, I know my route it will be a deckhand because I am not smart enough to do anything mechanical or with engines and so on lol
The 2 main things I would guess could be that maybe there will continue to be more regulations especially with emissions and also things could become more autonomous which in the future could reduce crew sizes.....
It's not bad bad most of the people I work around. I don't do anything but speak politely to and then afterward I just want to go to my room and not be around them anyway.
Im 53,been long haul trucker last 23 years. My question,am I to old to start a new career as a merchant mariner and interested in working in the kitchen
Hey Jeff! A few questions. I am wondering if workers are allowed to bring their own food onboard. Not snacks but particularly frozen foods (e.g., meats, veggies). For instance, if I brought fish for my own consumption - would they allow me to store it somewhere on the ship? Additionally, are workers allowed to bring their own small cooking appliances (e.g., air fryers, rice cookers)? I ask these questions because I am pretty adamant on living a pescatarian lifestyle, and I am wondering if there is any way to accommodate that while on duty - even if that means paying to secure that diet accommodation.
Fish is frequently served on board and even days where they don't have fish there are other options that you can eat including rice every day there are potatoes vegetables and a salad bar every day. For safety reasons you can't cook in your cabin. For example a day without fish there is always going to be a soup there will always be rice and vegetables and there will always be a salad bar
Usually I have internet but after working I'm always tired and if for some reason the internet wasn't working I would probably just listen to some music or go outside and look at the stars before I sleep.
@@JeffOnboard thanks for the response. I'm trying to see what is the quickest way to get on a boat and start making money. I was thinking bout doing the training school for the basic training or the advanced training. But some people on here are saying the training isn't necessary and to just get your twic passport mmc and apply. Which one do you think is the best route to get hired quickly
Honestly if you are able to do it. I think the training program is a far better way to get started in this industry. Yes you can get your documents and start off the street, but it is much harder that way.
You name it, lol. I have seen rough seas and containers damaged etc....You can actually watch the ship flexing which would freak someone out if they didn't understand it is needed.
Think. Walking on the Walls. Take one step up a flight of stairs. Everything falling all the time. Strapping yourself into bed to sleep. Walking up stairs and feeling like every step is 4G. Your legs get tired if it is prolonged. Stay inside for the most part in storms. White Caps on the Water that look like Science Fiction and unreal. The sounds and groans of the ship. It is actually fun.
There is another channel called Chief Makoi. He is a chief engineer from the phillipines. sometimes when he is off he teaches at a merchant marine school to extend his time off. Are there jobs in the US that merchant marines can take to extend their time off?
Sure any job really. You can apply and do anything you like keeping in mind you need to maintain a certain amount of time to assure yourself medical and dental benefits
Hi Jeff, I plan to start training- engine dept early next year. Are there any useful study resources/go-to books for the occupation that you can recommend? Specifically of use for Oiler/Jr. engineer positions? Thanks for the great videos!
Unless you are Academy you have to put in your time, pass your tests, and push yourself. Knowledge of Diesel Mechanics, Electrical, Reefer and Air Conditioning, Machinist, Plumbing, and Heavy Machinery Maintenance is a PLUS. Learn as you go. Take every class that is offered. Study.
Your comment about overtime has me wondering: do the ships depend on mariners working the extra hours to keep on top of maintenance? Or is it more just doing things that would be taken care of in dry dock ahead of time? I can't imagine you run out of things to do.
Overtime is not normally mandatory. There are times we need to, but most times it is a choice. The thinking behind it is....we work half the year or o therefore try to make ll we can with that time.
US Persons (citizens and green card holders) need to pay with the IRS no matter where in the world they live. It's different for almost all other nationalities.
There is a $70K deduction if you work with a foreign company, live overseas full time, and do not spend more than 30 days in the US. Offshore drilling overseas is like this. I will say... it is very dangerous to sign on with Foreign Shipping Companies and you will see some crazy things. Don't do it.
As long as you have all of the required documents and a current physical and drug test I think you should be able to get something with patience...call your local union hall and ask also...
Yes everyone works 7 days a week that's where you make your bigger money on weekends....you get the days pay and also OT for every hour....coming out here and working 5 days a week would be a waste of time...It is not the easiest of jobs....
Jeff, do merchant marines have to go to war ? Are you forced or do you have a choice in the matter? And if you’re not forced what does a mariner do during times of war?
normal commercial ships operate as always no matter war or no war. You choose when you want to work. It is all your choice.....You only need to work the required days to keep your medical benefits, but you choose your jobs yourself...
I've worked with some Seamen/Seafarers & who I trained with after,they liked the Pay & the leave but Hated the Job.They didn't last at Sea for 2 years.If going into the Merchant Navy train at Australian Maritime College (AMC).
In my opinion people should never do any job just for the money. They will not enjoy it and not be good at it and miserable in life. Do something you enjoy if possible.....
@@JeffOnboard I'm a ex AB/IR.Been going to see for 11 years & loving it!.So i decided to go back to the College I went too,to study for my Officer's Certificate,Bachelor of Applied Science (Nautical Science).All been going great so far,enjoying it.-Smooth Sailing to ya Comrade
What is the schedule like 6 months on 6 months off 3 months on 3 months off? And do you get paid for the months off? Also how can you move up and get higher pay grades and more responsibilities on the ship. Thanks great video as always 👍
In most ships I work on normally people are on about 3.5 months unless it is a 1 or 2 trip relief job in which case 1.5-2.5 months or o. ll ships differ though based on the run but 4 months is also very very common..... There are schools provided as part of the unions where mariners go for classes to answer your other question.
I think so yes, but ask the union hall to make sure exactly what you till need. We always need drug screens and physicals but I am not 100% sure if any differences in Canada..... seafarers.ca/resources/
hardest part is being away. It’s even harder on the wife or husband that stays home with the kids. Rough life. Decent pay. Some cool people out there on the ships and also some Jack asses. Pros and cons to everything.
I want to work for about a year and save up a lot of money for future schooling and expenses before I go to college, is this the wrong job when planning to work for a year only and not thinking about a career in it??
I know it depends on case by case situation. My question is if I work for the whole year without taking any time off. Can I possibly take 6 months off with pay?
It doesn't work like that. you get so many vacation days per month. And normally you don't stay on a ship for a whole year.... But when you get off the ship you don't get paid but you will get a vacation check you get so many days of vacation per month
Hey Jeff, how do the job boards hold up during economic down turns? im thinking about going to the siu program but am worried about getting out and not being able to find work.
Even during covid I had no issues getting work...Email if you need any help or have questions and if you like I cn contact you to answer questions...jbull68@gmail.com
Yes many people work too about that age as long as they are healthy and stay in good shape. And you have to be able to pass your physical every year but other than that that age should be no problem.
I explained it in a video on the channel before but it has been a while. I need to make a new video feel free to reach out to me and we can make contact and I will explain. jbull68@gmail.com
Just like anywhere you can eat foods that probably would not be considered healthy but there are always healthy alternatives and choices for each meal yes And there is always a salad bar.
Man I wanna do everything to get this idc 100 sum days through out the year I'll work out their as long as possible I have no kids 21 and I'm just so fascinated by the lifestyle of it I want it all💯
So what if you're away on a ship and have a Wife or Children at home similar to yourself. Do you not have cellphone service or internet to have a way to reach out to them while you're away during your off time?
Yes, but we need so many days minimum to have our medical benefits. If I take a job where I keep returning to the same ship as I did before then YES I need to return a exact date.. I plan to look for a new one in January.
Pay is based on the particular contract for a given ship and the benefits are through the union. For sure funding from companies, but provided through the union plan.
On ships there are requirements that You have to stay compliant with referring to rest hours.... I believe just like truck drivers and other people. You can only work so many hours a day and have to have so many hours of rest.
Hey Jeff. I applied for the apprenticeship, got denied. I have mmc, twic, passport and I just got stwc. After I get vpsd, I plan on just going to the hall and catching a ship. Is as hard to get a ship as some people say?
as a C card it can be hard, but now maybe better as finding reliefs for crew members has been harder so go for it and also re apply. I hope to see you out there. I ship from Norfolk
Class 350, 1981. I’m a CE on a tanker. Anything else? You get what you play for. Come into this Industry with minimal attitude and you will receive such.
@@JeffOnboard Oh ok I'm interested in becoming a merchant mariner.. right now I'm working the rivers on towboat.. Question, do you have to be fully vaccinated before getting assigned to ship as an apprentice?
@@JeffOnboard More than likely yes I’m used to being away long hours every week from 60 to 84 hours and I only go home to sleep anyhow when I’m on tour at the factory
Pink again. I have been there and there are always different options for food so you should be okay... As far as the training program and the shower situation I really don't know.
Hey do I have to have STCW/BST training if I'm ex-navy? Another thing I'm wondering about is how the schedule of jobs works. Could I grind for part of the year and then hit a foreign port (let's say Singapore) and take my time off overseas, and then go out from that port or a nearby port when I want to grind again?
normally you go home after ships, but I am sure you can work that out some way....Please call National Maritime Center. They are so helpful and can answer the BST question......1-888-427-5662
The way I read online is it depends on the circumstances I would advise searching the National Maritime Center (NMC) on the internet and calling them. They are very easy to get a hold of and ask them.
Sir i have Question i did My 12 month Sail on indian Doc as Deck Cadet officer but now im Us citizen nd i want to join Merchant navy But Really dont Know from Where i need to start and Does my 12 month sail is Valid too ??? Wait for your reply thnku
First I suggest ask the United States Coast Guard if any of your previous time counts. Also the documents I mentioned in the video you will need those documents
Just don't go down that gangplank when you hit shore. Save your money 💰 Afterwards I jumped into the Air Force without thinking it through got hustle by the recruiter. Bad choice
I work Engine, but I have seen before yes. The first time I ever witnessed it I was only in second grade and 7 years old I think which inspired me to get my first book on the topic and I read the whole book at that young age because I wanted to know what it was that I saw...
Its hard to have family, you won't have enough sleep, you live with your co-workers, you are competing with third-world employment, its very dangerous, help is far away, you are at the mercy of the captain, you are on the outside looking in to everyone else. You can save money when at sea to buy a home, you get big chunks of time off, the commute is a flight of stairs, sea the world and learn what a piece of crap it is.
It’s not a normal job by any stretch of the imagination. Many people if they tried this wouldn’t even complete their first contract before quitting in disgust and flying home on their own money, provided of course that they took the precaution of bringing a clean paid off credit card. I managed to put up with it for 8 years on and off. Sooner or later it becomes too ridiculous to take seriously. There’s a reason why the US merchant marine has declined to its present level of about 200 ships from over 1,500 during the 1950s. The biggest flaw as you point out is that you don’t get compensated for being confined to the vessel 24/7. And to be brutally frank, anyone who’s not willing to work 100 hours per week is considered lazy. People actually get fired for refusal to work enough overtime to satisfy their department head.
You are only allowed so many hours. 14 is max for any day...the job is not for weak people rather those who need adventure and can handle it....for me living in a place and working 5 days a wedk in the same place would make me insane....I love going different places....I am never pressured to do more OT....Now days you can only do so much
Immediately after graduating from high school, I joined the German Navy, then studied nautical science and have been a captain on German container ships for over 15 years.
And I say, even if your advice doesn't apply to me, I'm impressed by how you explain your/our work to people who are interested. The way you respond to questions from mostly young people in the comments is also great.
We really need more people like you to tell the world about our great job.
That's one of the main reasons I do it. Thank you very much for the positive words. I go to Bremerhaven all the time in Germany. Been many places there and love it in Germany.
I’m 22 years old and really don’t have a direction in life. Never went to college and worked for my local police department straight out of high school (worked as a civilian for 2 years and as a police officer for a little over a year). Other than my parents and siblings, I feel like there is nothing left for me here in my current home state.
With that being said, the work and lifestyle of a Merchant Mariner career path has been an interest of mine for a few months now and I’m planning on attending the SIU apprenticeship program. Thank you for posting this video as weighing the pros and cons of the job has been the one thing holding me back from making any final decisions.
Email me and if you like Send contact info and We can use WhatsApp and maybe talk about it more...
jbull68@gmail.com
Thank you Jeff. Good work.
Happy Holidays Warren!
Jeff, thanks for putting this info out there for the masses. I have two sons very strongly considering the merchant marines (my oldest as a rated guy & my youngest wants to become a deck officer). Regarding my oldest, he has very mild autism and is kind of socially awkward. From everything I've seen about being a mariner, I think he would fit really well as an SA because he loves routine and seems to do very well doing the same things day in and day out. He actually likes routine much more than a constantly changing work environment because he can struggle to understand directions if he doesn't hear them a few times (something supervisors can quickly get tired of). At home, he also spends a majority of his day, when not in class, isolating himself in his room.
My biggest concern with encouraging him to pursue the SIU apprenticeship (which I very much do right now) is how the crews will see his social awkwardness and if they will essentially pick on him to the point of absolute misery. From a majority of the crews you've been with, would you say they will likely pick on him at first and then eventually ease up, or do many of the guys make it their mission to drive someone to the brink?
Any insight to your world would be very helpful and greatly appreciated!
I'm actually going to post a new video very soon I have all my information together to make an even better more simplistic video I will be posting it when I get off the ship here... if you want we can exchange information and I can contact you and we can talk about it I'll give you my email.
jbull68@gmail.com
Hey. I have Aspergers and am considering the Merchant Marine after my undergraduate studies. Could you keep me updated? And if you have any new information, could you share it?
Greetings Jeff, I am from Costa Rica and I work as a sailor like you, Greek companies one of the things that must also be taken into account is that to be a sailor you have to have an iron stomach because when there is bad weather the waves shake the boat as if it was a toy .. thanks for your videos jeff they are very interesting
Thank you vere much Montecarlo R.
Great Info! Thanks for sharing! Thank you for all you do!😎👍
Thank you Rick always and Happy Holidays
I waited my entire life for this moment , but never made the big jump (not enough school credentials , took different opprotunities/paths in life , I also worked as longshoreman in my teens)
I finally kicked my butt after 10 years of dreaming about it and signed up for the academy . I'm starting Monday and I just can't wait .
Which academy?
I Watched a couple of you guys videos. Late last year thinking about making a career change. Thank you for your videos. I'm an Over the road truck Driver. I still feel that your industry I would have done well. I also feel your career is great for alot of people that would like to Travel and have the discipline to learn online.
Give it a shot if you think you might enjoy it.....
Excellent advice for anyone thinking of entering the marine industry, very clear and informative. Great vid Jeff 👍
2 more days Jim until back to work, lol.
Im ex-navy, im middle aged and divorced now and this seems like the most logical choice for my future but i've been debating it back and forth in my mind. Thanks for your thoughts on the matter it's good food for thought.
The good thing is if you decide to do it. You can do it as long as you want or as short as you want and work when ever you want to work.
I'm a veteran of the USMC, I'm 30 turning 31 soon, and I've hit a wall at work in both pay and advancement. Even the lower pay of the unlicensed guys would be a raise for me. This genuinely might be a saving grace for me.
Could be...give it a shot
Single, no kids, can I stay out longer than the minimum? I'm no stranger to being gone.
There is no way to be sure it is a case by case situation but there is probably a better chance of it nowadays it seems like a labor shortage so it is more possible now than ever I think but it would be something you would need to clear with the Union and the company.
@@JeffOnboarddid you get to save up
Looking for a career change. This is perfect for me. Reminds me of my time in the army and how that life style works.
I'm going to publish a new video in July when I get home about how to get started in a very simplistic way
We’ll stated views Jeff. You’ve covered all the bases from my past experiences working with Mobil years ago. It’s easy work, but it’s not easy by any stretch. Thanks.
There was so much more I could say but the video would be an hour long, lol
Thanks Jeff.
Thanks Jerry, Just more info for those considering the industry.
I'm looking to start a new career 53 years old. I met your world for it
I just recently spent the last 2 years thinking about it and studying about it, but I am considering pursuing a career in the Merchant Marines. I just graduated college and honestly I have had this interest in hoping on a ship and working as a grunt on the ship. I understand it has a lot of cons like being away from family or my home, but I have a girlfriend whom I am in a very serious relationship and she supports my dream of doing this. I'm already separated from her with a 2 hour driving time already. I understand it isn't an easy job or lifestyle but I still want to give it a try. Anyways, I live close to Lake Superior on the Wisconsin side and there are Merchant Marines who work on the Great Lakes so I am familiar with the occupation. Anyways thanks for giving an honest video. I still hope I can pursue a career with the merchant marines. For me, it's not exactly the money that is motivating me although it's kind of in my mind, but I just want to travel the world. I want to see different countries, while also making a good enough living to pay off some off some of my debts and save some cash for a better financial security.
I have been working in manufacturing now as a worker bee and I'd like to take those work skills into maybe the deck department. I have done a wide variety of jobs already ranging from repetitive tasks, to loading up trucks and boxes, to operating even a forklift. I don't know how much of that would carry over but I feel confident I can still go into this career, meeting all the physical demands of the job. And I know there would people I might not like but in my mind, my room on the ship would be my home away from home where I can decompress. So hopefully I can get into this line of work and maybe enjoy it.
You could join the SIU (Seafarers International Union) nd work on the lakes....yes.
My son just completed his MUG week at Maine Maritime. And I start teaching there this week :)
That is so awesome....I wish you both the best luck! More videos coming very soon....
Great video very detail im may consider it thanks for sharing 😊😊
Always here if you have any questions my friend
A great video.
I've been giving a lot of thought to doing this. I wouldn't want to do it for another couple of years, but it sounds like it'd be both a blessing and a curse. It might be in my future.
I'll have to watch that other video and do some more looking into things. I'll need an answer before I start, of course.
awesome. I am always here to help.
Question to talk about in the future-
1. Age from the youngest to the oldest- pros and cons. What is the oldest age you can work on a ship?
2. Physical health concerns to keep in mind before taking on a job?
3. What do you do if they’re is serious emergencies at home?
4. Advantages to speaking different languages?
5. If you are sick aboard the ship do you get paid if you are sick in bed?
6. Are allowed to eat as much as you want aboard the ship?
1-minimum 17 and no age limit as long a you pass your physical exams.
2-yes, but it is addressed before you go when we take our required physical
3-you would ask to be relieved in the next port of call
4-when you are in other countries? sure...always
5-Yep
6-sure are
I was in the Norwegian Navy and then served in the U.S Navy when I was naturalized. I belong on the sea but I fear I'm too old now at 57. I would be an asset to any floating kitchen.
As far as age as long as you are healthy and able to pass the physical I don't see that being an issue.. You can even sail just a couple months a year if that is all you want to do. I have sailed with plenty of cooks your age and older.
@@JeffOnboard THANK YOU!!!!
Any time
I think the biggest factor when choosing any career is do you have a passion for it and will it make you happy in the long run or are you ready to weigh the pros and the cons. If you're telling me you only work six months out of the year, that means pay is good and you can obviously live decently if you apply yourself. There's another important point you brought up and that is the ship isn't going to turn around for you because it has to meet a tight time schedule it was on long before you came aboard.
Yes I also have a huge passion for traveling and adventure. I like to be on the move if you know what I mean. At the end of the day however I am just thankful to have my health and a job to do. It is a blessing.
Just came across your video Im 28 basically just hit a paywall and I’m a non union pipe fitter/welder /sheet metal worker and I’m looking to expand my horizons I’m married with a baby on the way but the current economy is making it hard to save up like I’d like would an engineering role allow me to work like a damage control man or a hull technician (I’m prior navy with 31/2 years at sea )
Those aren't normal jobs on the ship but you would be good for the engine Department.
Great video. Especially if I could just do one or two voyages, it would be a great way to pay off my debt then save up a good emergency fund, then after that go back to having a normal job.
Someone on RUclips said they made $18K on a 65 day grain ship before taxes. That’s also not including vacation pay.
Where I’m at now I get paid $11.50/hr and get 36hr/week. Taking 20% of taxes out of that $18K is still easily $14K vs $3.3K for the same amount of time. Over 4x the pay and that was a lower paying contract.
I have a video about how start and I need to make a new one because the old on is burried....lol
Do you get to have the occasional opportunity to briefly explore some of the port towns that you stop in? I’m a trailer mechanic with class A license so I do a lot of recovery work around the country for our company. I’m 33, maybe it’s too late, but this seems like a pretty interesting route to look more into and explore
Yes always.....I was out in Germany 2 weeks ago with a couple of my friends there...
I don't think you're too old.
That sounds like cool mechanical experience you could build upon for 2 decades easily.
I used to work on tires for semis/trailers and eventually wanted to move on.
You're in your early 30s man, not old, prime age.
Definitely interested
Always here to help😎🚢⚓️🌊🐳
I get seasick on small offshore fishing boats but I was fine on a cruise ship. Should I be worried I’m about it on a cargo ship?
The days where the ships roll a lot are not common. There are more days with just mild movement... even on a large ship I don't think it would be as bad as on a small ship in bad weather
Started my career in 2007 after pursuing my marine engineering ,got my chief engineer lisence in 2016 ,now In 2022 I quit sailing and opted for a shore job, the biggest con for merchant navy is distance from family ,rest all are pros
Yes that is the main CON for sure my friend...Thank you for your comment...
Hey Jeff been seeing you reply to people so hope you see this but i’m 21 and this job seems truly interesting to me. i have been working as an EMT for 2 years and have experience working 24 hour shifts and sleeping in uncomfortable quarters, sometimes being stuck with coworkers that weren’t the greatest, so i’ve learned some life lessons gratefully. i love to travel and don’t mind leaving home behind, i live at the beach and see ships everyday and wonder how i would like this. i feel pulled to travel and this seems like a great adventure. my only concern based off my research would be having to be stuck with a bad crew, what has your experience been? Thanks Jeff
Email and if you have WhatsApp I could contact you and talk about it..
jbull68@gmail.com
I am a Army vet and kinda bounced around from job to job ranging from commercial HVAC to currently in the wind industry working on wind turbines which is great money but none of it has ever been a passion of mine its just here I am to work and make money but could care less about actually liking it. I have always been at peace around water and the ocean in general and obviously hard work never bothered me so I am kind of a jack of all trades with experience in different blue collar fields and this is something that actually makes me think in a positive way and could see myself actually having a passion for.
You might enjoy the maritime industry...are you thinking of giving it a go?
I was told to start inland as a deckhand since I have no experience. I am in the middle of a career change. My background is mechanical work for 12+ years. Is being a engineer in a ship rewarding and fun, high stress or laid back?
All the above at different times, but overall a sense of pride doing this job supporting global trade. With your background you will like it for sure.
@@JeffOnboard thanks for the reply!
Recently laid off from a job I had been at for over 5 years and I'm considering trying to become a Merchant mariner which I have considered for a long time but never followed through with it. I have always been fascinated with sea travel and the way of life of those that work it. Only downside is I'm 40 years old. I however have no kids, not married and both my parents have passed away so really, I have nothing holding me back in that aspect. I can travel and go wherever. With that being said could you give me an idea on where to start? I been looking at some academies and apprentice programs but those take 2-4 years to complete if I understand it correctly. I live in Va so there is no local training for me at all, I would def have to travel to take an academy or something. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Also, I know my route it will be a deckhand because I am not smart enough to do anything mechanical or with engines and so on lol
feel free to email me about it. I will try to help....We can also text etc...
jbull68@gmail.com
Where do you think the industry will go in the future (around 8 to 10 years or so) in regards to changes?
The 2 main things I would guess could be that maybe there will continue to be more regulations especially with emissions and also things could become more autonomous which in the future could reduce crew sizes.....
Do you have to worry much about groups/cliques outside of normal workplace teamwork? Dont need the added stress, thanks.
It's not bad bad most of the people I work around. I don't do anything but speak politely to and then afterward I just want to go to my room and not be around them anyway.
Im 53,been long haul trucker last 23 years.
My question,am I to old to start a new career as a merchant mariner and interested in working in the kitchen
No....you can do it, but to work long enough for a full pension not really, but go for it
Your video is so helpful! Did u make a vid about what certifications and degrees needed to start this career from zero?
Hope this helps...always here if you need help.
ruclips.net/video/qBZGFB35sYQ/видео.htmlsi=lzc_TmEO4uAZNKbW
Hot damn 7 days a row? It’s like trucking but less hours
Well normally we work more than 8 hours a day so it is probably similar to trucking. You're only allowed to work so much. I work about 74 hours a week
Hey Jeff! A few questions. I am wondering if workers are allowed to bring their own food onboard. Not snacks but particularly frozen foods (e.g., meats, veggies). For instance, if I brought fish for my own consumption - would they allow me to store it somewhere on the ship? Additionally, are workers allowed to bring their own small cooking appliances (e.g., air fryers, rice cookers)? I ask these questions because I am pretty adamant on living a pescatarian lifestyle, and I am wondering if there is any way to accommodate that while on duty - even if that means paying to secure that diet accommodation.
Fish is frequently served on board and even days where they don't have fish there are other options that you can eat including rice every day there are potatoes vegetables and a salad bar every day. For safety reasons you can't cook in your cabin. For example a day without fish there is always going to be a soup there will always be rice and vegetables and there will always be a salad bar
is there a gym on those ships ?
Always and thank you. You reminded me that I want to make a video to show the gym
Great question. I wondered the same. Thanks for asking.
Great video, thank you. How are accommodations? Are rooms always private?
Every ship I work on yes I have my own cabin😎🌊⚓️🚢
Thanks for the videos. What did you do to pass time when you were not working and stuck with no Internet?
Usually I have internet but after working I'm always tired and if for some reason the internet wasn't working I would probably just listen to some music or go outside and look at the stars before I sleep.
@@JeffOnboard thanks for the response. I'm trying to see what is the quickest way to get on a boat and start making money. I was thinking bout doing the training school for the basic training or the advanced training. But some people on here are saying the training isn't necessary and to just get your twic passport mmc and apply. Which one do you think is the best route to get hired quickly
Honestly if you are able to do it. I think the training program is a far better way to get started in this industry. Yes you can get your documents and start off the street, but it is much harder that way.
What kinds of weather extremes have you encountered while working on ships?
You name it, lol. I have seen rough seas and containers damaged etc....You can actually watch the ship flexing which would freak someone out if they didn't understand it is needed.
Think. Walking on the Walls. Take one step up a flight of stairs. Everything falling all the time. Strapping yourself into bed to sleep. Walking up stairs and feeling like every step is 4G. Your legs get tired if it is prolonged. Stay inside for the most part in storms. White Caps on the Water that look like Science Fiction and unreal. The sounds and groans of the ship. It is actually fun.
Incredible video
Thanks so much Angel
There is another channel called Chief Makoi. He is a chief engineer from the phillipines. sometimes when he is off he teaches at a merchant marine school to extend his time off. Are there jobs in the US that merchant marines can take to extend their time off?
Sure any job really. You can apply and do anything you like keeping in mind you need to maintain a certain amount of time to assure yourself medical and dental benefits
Hi Jeff, I plan to start training- engine dept early next year. Are there any useful study resources/go-to books for the occupation that you can recommend? Specifically of use for Oiler/Jr. engineer positions? Thanks for the great videos!
Have you already sailed at all?
Unless you are Academy you have to put in your time, pass your tests, and push yourself. Knowledge of Diesel Mechanics, Electrical, Reefer and Air Conditioning, Machinist, Plumbing, and Heavy Machinery Maintenance is a PLUS. Learn as you go. Take every class that is offered. Study.
I think getting on engine department is tough.
same as other departments. It is all preference
Your comment about overtime has me wondering: do the ships depend on mariners working the extra hours to keep on top of maintenance? Or is it more just doing things that would be taken care of in dry dock ahead of time? I can't imagine you run out of things to do.
Overtime is not normally mandatory. There are times we need to, but most times it is a choice. The thinking behind it is....we work half the year or o therefore try to make ll we can with that time.
Would you say that a 67 year old is too old to become a merchant marine?
I guess if you pass the physical and get all docs, but why? Enjoy life
When you are outside the USA's territorial limits, do you still pay state and federal taxes during that time?
My job takes out the Federal but need to take care of the state myself, but to answer you "YES"
US Persons (citizens and green card holders) need to pay with the IRS no matter where in the world they live. It's different for almost all other nationalities.
There is a $70K deduction if you work with a foreign company, live overseas full time, and do not spend more than 30 days in the US. Offshore drilling overseas is like this. I will say... it is very dangerous to sign on with Foreign Shipping Companies and you will see some crazy things. Don't do it.
I went to a bootcamp and got a bunch of mriner certs for entry level. Whats my chances of getting a ship sitting in the hall everyday?
As long as you have all of the required documents and a current physical and drug test I think you should be able to get something with patience...call your local union hall and ask also...
What if you would like to work on the great lakes. Are the requirements the same? How do you find a job with those companies.
You can work SIU
Assuming the 7 days a week is mandatory, are their religious exceptions or jobs that don't involve operating the electronics such as cleaning?
Yes everyone works 7 days a week that's where you make your bigger money on weekends....you get the days pay and also OT for every hour....coming out here and working 5 days a week would be a waste of time...It is not the easiest of jobs....
@@JeffOnboard Figured. As much as I am interested in this job, I can't work on Saturdays. Thank you for the information Jeff.
Jeff, do merchant marines have to go to war ? Are you forced or do you have a choice in the matter? And if you’re not forced what does a mariner do during times of war?
normal commercial ships operate as always no matter war or no war. You choose when you want to work. It is all your choice.....You only need to work the required days to keep your medical benefits, but you choose your jobs yourself...
I've worked with some Seamen/Seafarers & who I trained with after,they liked the Pay & the leave but Hated the Job.They didn't last at Sea for 2 years.If going into the Merchant Navy train at Australian Maritime College (AMC).
In my opinion people should never do any job just for the money. They will not enjoy it and not be good at it and miserable in life. Do something you enjoy if possible.....
@@JeffOnboard I'm a ex AB/IR.Been going to see for 11 years & loving it!.So i decided to go back to the College I went too,to study for my Officer's Certificate,Bachelor of Applied Science (Nautical Science).All been going great so far,enjoying it.-Smooth Sailing to ya Comrade
What is the schedule like 6 months on 6 months off 3 months on 3 months off? And do you get paid for the months off? Also how can you move up and get higher pay grades and more responsibilities on the ship. Thanks great video as always 👍
In most ships I work on normally people are on about 3.5 months unless it is a 1 or 2 trip relief job in which case 1.5-2.5 months or o. ll ships differ though based on the run but 4 months is also very very common.....
There are schools provided as part of the unions where mariners go for classes to answer your other question.
Hey Jeff I'm thinking of going the union Siu in Ontario Canada the I need to have a stcw and med ?
I think so yes, but ask the union hall to make sure exactly what you till need. We always need drug screens and physicals but I am not 100% sure if any differences in Canada.....
seafarers.ca/resources/
hardest part is being away. It’s even harder on the wife or husband that stays home with the kids. Rough life. Decent pay.
Some cool people out there on the ships and also some Jack asses. Pros and cons to everything.
It is not for everyone 100% fact....Most do not last super long
I want to work for about a year and save up a lot of money for future schooling and expenses before I go to college, is this the wrong job when planning to work for a year only and not thinking about a career in it??
In my opinion it is never something bad to use one thing as a stepping stone to something that you really want😎⚓️🚢🐳🐋🌊
@@JeffOnboard thank you for the reply :)!
I know it depends on case by case situation. My question is if I work for the whole year without taking any time off. Can I possibly take 6 months off with pay?
It doesn't work like that. you get so many vacation days per month. And normally you don't stay on a ship for a whole year.... But when you get off the ship you don't get paid but you will get a vacation check you get so many days of vacation per month
Hey Jeff, how do the job boards hold up during economic down turns? im thinking about going to the siu program but am worried about getting out and not being able to find work.
Even during covid I had no issues getting work...Email if you need any help or have questions and if you like I cn contact you to answer questions...jbull68@gmail.com
I’m 17 and I’ve been interested in becoming a merchant mariner for a little while. Is it worth it to jump into right after high school?
Absolutely why not start making money as soon as possible. Consider going Through The apprentice ship program.
@@JeffOnboard that’s what I was thinking about. Would being a merchant marine also help get into other trades later in life?
It depends on what different things you do on ship and the skills you learn they could become handy in other trades as well
Going home is overrated
Home for me is where I hang my hat
As an engineer, how old is a reasonable age to work until? Do engineers work into their mid to late 60’s?
Yes many people work too about that age as long as they are healthy and stay in good shape. And you have to be able to pass your physical every year but other than that that age should be no problem.
How to I get in entry level? I have a Twic and passport.
I explained it in a video on the channel before but it has been a while. I need to make a new video feel free to reach out to me and we can make contact and I will explain.
jbull68@gmail.com
Is the food considered healthy?
Just like anywhere you can eat foods that probably would not be considered healthy but there are always healthy alternatives and choices for each meal yes And there is always a salad bar.
@@JeffOnboard Thank you Jeff
I was wondering is the kitchen department like cruise liners . Cruise liners only hire foreigners and not Americans.
Our ships are US citizens... the only American Flagged cruise ship we have is in Hawaii named the Pride of America
Man I wanna do everything to get this idc 100 sum days through out the year I'll work out their as long as possible I have no kids 21 and I'm just so fascinated by the lifestyle of it I want it all💯
then by all means do it....It is an adventure
I'm 32 and single right now. if you were in my shoes, how would you break in the industry?
Well it depends on your situation in life. You can email me if you want and we can exchange information and talk about it.
jbull68@gmail.com
So what if you're away on a ship and have a Wife or Children at home similar to yourself. Do you not have cellphone service or internet to have a way to reach out to them while you're away during your off time?
My ship has great internet WiFi....Starlink
Can you take as much time as you want between contracts? like a year or more?
Yes, but we need so many days minimum to have our medical benefits. If I take a job where I keep returning to the same ship as I did before then YES I need to return a exact date.. I plan to look for a new one in January.
Those 3 departments it varies their paychecks ? Or its the same
100% depends on the rating and overtime so always slightly differ...Also all ships can have different pay as well.
@@JeffOnboard oh okay I appreciate u a lot
How do the woman stay safe while aboard ?
It is safe. I have sailed with many women...now if you feel not safe going out in a port alone you could just go in a group with other shipmates.
You stay safe by NOT drinking with your crew members or entering their stateroom. Stay professional onboard.
I’m interested in joining the merchant marines but I’m wondering if they pay well?
Feel free to reach out
jbull68@gmail.com
How do you maintain an apartment when you are gone half the year?
My home is basically zero maintenance....Everything is brand new
@@JeffOnboard i think he meant how pay rent!
@@Gleyi07 we live in an electronic age
Is your pay basis on the company or the union scale do benifits come from the company of the union
Pay is based on the particular contract for a given ship and the benefits are through the union. For sure funding from companies, but provided through the union plan.
more than 12 hours work a day isn't allowed? I mean, 8 hours sleep, 2 hours for eating here and there, 14 hours of work could be done.
On ships there are requirements that You have to stay compliant with referring to rest hours.... I believe just like truck drivers and other people. You can only work so many hours a day and have to have so many hours of rest.
Truck driving we tend to drive 14 hours a day lol
Hi Jeff.
Hope your all ok I have seen or heard from you guys in awhile ?
I just got home from my last ship, Maersk Ohio
Hey Jeff. I applied for the apprenticeship, got denied. I have mmc, twic, passport and I just got stwc. After I get vpsd, I plan on just going to the hall and catching a ship. Is as hard to get a ship as some people say?
as a C card it can be hard, but now maybe better as finding reliefs for crew members has been harder so go for it and also re apply. I hope to see you out there. I ship from Norfolk
@@JeffOnboard I’m in Newport News hopefully Norfolk has some options for me and any idea on how much the union is
What are job opportunities like for merchant marine officers?
Right now things are not bad.....
Class 350, 1981. I’m a CE on a tanker. Anything else? You get what you play for. Come into this Industry with minimal attitude and you will receive such.
Can you ride over longer if you wanted too?
You could yes.....
@@JeffOnboard Oh ok I'm interested in becoming a merchant mariner.. right now I'm working the rivers on towboat.. Question, do you have to be fully vaccinated before getting assigned to ship as an apprentice?
Not 100% sure, but you can ask the union halls they will know the current rules......
Ive thought about it for years
Try it if you think you will like.😎⚓️🚢🐳🐋🌊
@@JeffOnboard More than likely yes I’m used to being away long hours every week from 60 to 84 hours and I only go home to sleep anyhow when I’m on tour at the factory
@@JeffOnboard thought about it but my kids were so little and I wanted to know my wife more
I did 9 yrs Active Air Force, so deployment time isn't an issue to me
My normal time inboard is 2.5 to 3 months.
Will you have privacy when showering or do they share a open one ?
& is the food healthy
Pink again. I have been there and there are always different options for food so you should be okay... As far as the training program and the shower situation I really don't know.
Hey do I have to have STCW/BST training if I'm ex-navy? Another thing I'm wondering about is how the schedule of jobs works. Could I grind for part of the year and then hit a foreign port (let's say Singapore) and take my time off overseas, and then go out from that port or a nearby port when I want to grind again?
normally you go home after ships, but I am sure you can work that out some way....Please call National Maritime Center. They are so helpful and can answer the BST question......1-888-427-5662
U get paid weekly or not till u get back?
normally every 2 weeks on ships but if you ever need money different times the captain will by all means do it
Do you recommend joining seafarers union?
Yes it is a great way to enter the industry and I highly recommend their apprenticeship program
Information about the apprenticeship program can be found on their website I will link you
www.seafarers.org
Would you recommend Apprentice Programs?
Yes, especially if you are younger
Do college degrees make any difference in this career?
If you are sure it is what you want to do you can start at higher pay but it is not necessary
Does bachelor a degree in business administration make any difference in this field ?
Is there Wifi on the ship?
sure is
I'm a loner either OTR trucking or merchant mariner
I hear ya there...trust me....always here to help if you go this route
Are they harsh on DUIs to get a MMC book. I have no felonies or violent crimes.
The way I read online is it depends on the circumstances I would advise searching the National Maritime Center (NMC) on the internet and calling them. They are very easy to get a hold of and ask them.
@@JeffOnboard thanks! 🙏🏾
Is it shared rooms?
Nope....If so I would not be here, lol.
Sir i have Question i did My 12 month Sail on indian Doc as Deck Cadet officer but now im Us citizen nd i want to join Merchant navy But Really dont Know from Where i need to start and Does my 12 month sail is Valid too ??? Wait for your reply thnku
First I suggest ask the United States Coast Guard if any of your previous time counts. Also the documents I mentioned in the video you will need those documents
Love your videos! Do women do your job?
Yes women sail as well...yes
Just don't go down that gangplank when you hit shore. Save your money 💰 Afterwards I jumped into the Air Force without thinking it through got hustle by the recruiter. Bad choice
Yes always better to save the money for life at home.....I agree
Ever see UFOs during deck watch??
I work Engine, but I have seen before yes. The first time I ever witnessed it I was only in second grade and 7 years old I think which inspired me to get my first book on the topic and I read the whole book at that young age because I wanted to know what it was that I saw...
Do we have access to internet?
Yes there is internet.
@JeffOnboard Wow didn't expect a response that fast. Thank you!
@@JeffOnboard One important question. How do you guys deal with storms?
Generally storms that could cause any problems they Change the route of sailing to go around the storms and avoid them.
Not a good idea to be a single father I guess
Can I get my merchant marine credentials with a misdemeanor DUI conviction ?
contact the National Maritime Center.....Search them on the net....I am not 100% certain
Its hard to have family, you won't have enough sleep, you live with your co-workers, you are competing with third-world employment, its very dangerous, help is far away, you are at the mercy of the captain, you are on the outside looking in to everyone else.
You can save money when at sea to buy a home, you get big chunks of time off, the commute is a flight of stairs, sea the world and learn what a piece of crap it is.
I love to see the world and it's not so much the world that is terrible, but rather people.
It’s not a normal job by any stretch of the imagination. Many people if they tried this wouldn’t even complete their first contract before quitting in disgust and flying home on their own money, provided of course that they took the precaution of bringing a clean paid off credit card. I managed to put up with it for 8 years on and off. Sooner or later it becomes too ridiculous to take seriously. There’s a reason why the US merchant marine has declined to its present level of about 200 ships from over 1,500 during the 1950s. The biggest flaw as you point out is that you don’t get compensated for being confined to the vessel 24/7. And to be brutally frank, anyone who’s not willing to work 100 hours per week is considered lazy. People actually get fired for refusal to work enough overtime to satisfy their department head.
You are only allowed so many hours. 14 is max for any day...the job is not for weak people rather those who need adventure and can handle it....for me living in a place and working 5 days a wedk in the same place would make me insane....I love going different places....I am never pressured to do more OT....Now days you can only do so much
What's the pay?
It greatly varied from ship to ship and what job...