Crystal Nonsense (WDPLaSS 11)
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- This time, Jordan talks about magic crystals, which means medical woo-woo, and more misuse of scientific terminology.
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I have a suspicion that breakfast *is* Jortard's favourite mode of transportation.
CoolHardLogic I bet he has magic mushrooms for breakfast, because they take you on a trip.
CoolHardLogic I think he heard the phrase "go to work on an egg" and took it literally...
TheRadPlayer I see what you did there.
CoolHardLogic make moar videos dude!
The thing is, that makes about as much sense as his usual crap
If by "spirit water" Jordan means putting crystals into water and drinking it, then wouldn't ice water do the same thing? After all, ice is a crystal.
No, ice is a special case. You have to put it in whiskey or rum to get the spiritual effect.
faolan1686 🤣
@@faolan1686 drink enough and you'll get a spiritual trip when you go driving!
@@snowgrave2475 i can agree with this 100%. easiest way to achieve your first (and only) out of body experience!
I see where you’re going wrong here - you’re applying basic common sense to the equation. That’s never going to end well.
"We're Jews out in space. We're zooming along, protecting the Hebrew race!"
History of the World Part 1
Great, now I wanna watch that imaginary TV show. =/
are you on a crystal powered moon ship?
leavemy namealone
What kind of question is that? Of course!
leavemy namealone *OF COURSE!*
***** You might want to cut back on the psychedelic mushrooms.
12:15"Crystals can change owners, they jump out of your pocket, and abandon you when the time is right"
Sooooo...crystals are kind of like the one ring?
Remember - The crystal is trying to return to its master. It _wants_ to be found.
why did sauron get through the Trouble of making and finding the one ring? A cristall should be enough right? And he was stupid enough to make it out of Gold and with no cristall in it. I'm sure it would at least be a gazillion times stronger if it was a ring with a Diamond and you fill it up with sunlight. xD I can't ... to ... much ... STUPIDITY!!!!! NOOOOOOOO
And all your possession are like that. If I take it, its really all your stuff wanting to change owners. I'm going to the bank now. All that money wants to change owners.
The crystal skulls are ... the worst plot of an Indian Jones story ever.
***** Wasn't so much the crystal skulls I had a problem with, as the nuke proof, heat proof, shock proof, radiation proof, g force proof fridge.
*****
While I can't speak for others, I think the reason ToD didn't do as well, was because of the annoying female lead character. She was whiny, loud, whiny, annoying, and whiny. As for KotCS, I haven't seen it for myself, so I can't say, beyond the fact of the massive suspension of disbelief of the nuked fridge, and the addition of Shia LeBouf. Was not impressed by his performance in Transformers, so I see no reason to like him anywhere else. Also, it may have a lot to do with the fact that more people are familiar with Christian mythology than the Crystal Skull fakes.
Also, the other two movies had somethings fairly important going for them. The first movie of a franchise is almost without exception, the best in any series, hands down. There are very few franchises that actually improve over time. Secondly, Last Crusade had Sean Connery. That alone makes any movie about ten times more enjoyable. Thirdly, KotCS had fallen into the CGI trap. All the previous movies before employed practical effects for the most part, only relying on animation for ghostly things, like the spirits in the Ark. And when it comes down to it, who wouldn't rather see a practical effect of a Nazi's face melting off versus a CGI one?
*****
You clearly ignored half of what Emigdiosback said. Not one archeologist in history found anything in the americas that talked about crystal skulls, therefore the entire mythology of the crystal skulls isn't even real in the sense of what makes a cultural myth authentic in the context that the culture existed.
@@JamesD2957 Technically the chupacabra falls into his old/new legend separation, since it was made up in 1990. :D
People actually fall for that crap?
Yes. Woo-peddlers get stinking rich selling useless junk to the desperate and gullible.
Very often actually. I have no idea how but they do.
uriituw Sadly yes, I've always had crystals in my home because I find them to be examples of the beauty the natural world produces. I had a girlfriend who really believed all this crap and would tell me how much more energy & how well she felt after spending time with me. Funny how they've never cured my Bi-polar disorder or helped one iota with my chronic pain despite me having had crystals around me most of my life...
Hopekuma Well believing puts your energy in alignment to be healed...or something like that ha. I am the same. I sometimes make jewelry so I have crystals around here all the time. When I was actually making money off it, I would be knee deep in crystals all day long. My healthy and well-being seems the same when they are around and when they are not around. Jee, almost as if they have no effect.
+Hopekuma Obviously you didn't have the right combination of crystals.
13:27-13:29
"13,000 years ago during the [...] the Maya [...]"
It should be mentioned that the Mayan culture didn't even exist 13,000 years ago.
Nameless User 👏 Something I kept pointing out before the 2012 crap. Besides, had they been so good at prophecy, how come they didn't predict their own downfall!
+Nameless User Good catch!
Sure they did, in some other dimension, because of, Uh, vibrational frequencies intersecting the... Immortal Egyptian spake jews?
OK, I got nothing. I cant speak woo
According to jordan's alternate history, the mayans came directly from sunken atlantis, and presumably sat on their asses for thousands of years before leaving any records. Why the maya specifically and not the olmecs, nazca or muisca I have no idea.
Oh Martymer...
Even after so much Bullshit you still don't get that when Jordan says "Frequency"or "Energy", he actually means "Magic".
Such is the way of the woo.
We are the Commonwealth He does get it. But taking it seriously is the best way to show how ridiculous this sounds.
Magic doesn’t exist and if you want to prove that it does under controlled conditions then there’s $100,000 waiting for you. I you so strongly believe in this shit then why don’t you try to go claim that money.
Yeah the magic explanation doesn’t help your case at all
The3Dluxe I thought it was 1,000,000 dollars. Assuming we're both thinking of James Randi's prize.
...Wikipedia says the Paranormal Challenge was discontinued in 2015 though. Fair, I suppose. People had had 50 years to claim it by that point, and nobody succeeded.
It's a sad state of events when the phrase "No more Space Jews!" has to be uttered. The stupidity that warrants such a phrase should not abound in the world.
Breakfast is my favorite mode of transportation though....
I use are car made of chocolate that looks like the one in the Flintstones, I eat it every morning after I drive to work :) (of course i get a new one every day.
Cereal is the most important floor of the day!
OH LOOK An Aztec wheel mistaken for a Mayan calendar. :)
10000000TH time that has happend
It happened in another vibratory level so...
I was going to make a ludicrous statement to make fun of them but then i realized that that would be impossible to tell apart from a real statement if them
@@anyoneatall3488 Valiant effort.
Is Jordan's video just really esoteric Steven Universe fan fiction?
I wouldn't be surprised.
Yes
@Digicraftmon the Crystal Gem dont tell Spike from MLP know about SU. There'd be genocide
Worse: Steven universe is actually really bad spirit science fanfiction
I have a crystal, I took care of it, I watched it grow. A lot of my energy went in to it.
Srsly though it's a CuSO4·5H2O crystal, made it for an experiment, quite big.
Such a cool experiment.
Copper sulfate, It's a salt, easy to get as far as I know, but don't eat it.
The crystals are a really pretty blue.
How big was it?
"They wont die if they don't get any, but who doesn't love to be fed"
- Jordan speaking for every League of Legends player on the planet
I approve of installing crystals every-fucking-where in public. One requirement, however: All crystals are required to be shaped like penises, asses and breasts. :3
The healing powers work better when they're shaped that way. Because Atlantis.
You're my fucking hero.
Hey, do you think Jordan would buy some ocean view property I have here in Kansas?
+Malaki Jones He spent all his coin on an ocean front condo in Nebraska.
Hmmm... Sounds legit...
What will it cost me? I currently have about 200,000 teslas of spirit energy to spare. Of course, I can't measure it, but I can send it to you faster than automatically through the 9 3/4th dimension. Deal? You shook my hand in my mind, so it's a deal!
"No more space Jews, please!"
Martymer 2k16
Oh
Watch as I use my mind to transfer thoughts to my computer! Type, type, type.
Witchcraft!
Wait spirit water? Like booze?
Exactly. There are concentrated alcoholic drinks called "spirits"
Absinthe
My first thought was. Spirit water? What’s that piss?
I have a large crystal bookend, its has the amazing ability to keep my books upright.
The "crystals are alive" claim amongst woo-meisters probably stems from the crystals ability to "grow" (self-assemble from more molecules).
Luckily I'm drinking some spirit water right now. It's brown, it's from Kentucky, it's made mostly from corn, and it's named after a wild bird that makes for a good dinner.
Citrine quartz will move about if it wants to?
*checks shelf*
I have a very lazy crystal.
Took the liberty to calculate facepalms in this series because math. In my calculations I went ahead and excluded episode 9 because not only no facepalms but very very little face for martymer to palm. So over 10 episodes, we have a total of 57 facepalms, averaging 5.7 facepalms per episode. when considering total play time of all the episodes, we get 1 facepalm appx every 2 minutes 18 seconds. When considering the time of individual episodes instead (which might be better for predicting the amount of facepalms in future episodes), we get an average of 1 facepalm appx every 2 minutes 38 seconds. (again, I excluded episode 9). Also does anybody know if there will be future installments?
There's more to come. I've been taking a break from making any "proper" videos (scripted and such) because I've been moving. Things are settling down now, so there _should_ be a part 12 at some point during the holidays.
Heehee, 5.7 :) underrated caliber
breakfast is my favorite mode of transportation
Man, the "thoughts are transferred into the computer via pressing keys" might possibly be the most accurate and yet stupid assertion this new-ager has made yet. It takes a special kind of crazy, or obtuseness, to come up with lines like that.
Actually, cross that out. "Psycho-psychological" definitely wins out as the most accurate and stupid thing he's said.
Now, if you excuse me I will now drink-imbibe some magnificent "fluid-aqueous" water, which will calm this intense sense of physical longing for liquids which manifests itself throught the symptoms of dehydration *wiggles fingers as he slowly walks away*
I am actually a good example of someone who experienced firsthand what happens if you "treat" something more or less serious with quackery.
When I was little, I suffered from a severe case of atopic dermatitis. My mother took me to someone who tried to treat me with homeopathy. Surprise! It did not do anything. When we went back to him, he stated that it is normal if it seems to get worse at first and we should just be patient. After a while, my father (who had objected to this treatment in the first place) convinced my mother to take me to a professional dermatologist. The first thing he said to my mother after hearing our story and properly diagnosing what I had was: "Do you actually know what you made your child suffer through all this time?"
I want to laugh at the end but can't becouse it hurts to read your story.
I genuinely hope your dermatitis hasn't become a bigger problem becouse of the treatment and that you dealed with it by now.
@@doublem1354 Well, I got some salve containing cortisol at that time to treat the almost full-body burst at that point. Afterwards, I was advised to keep my skin hydrated. It got a lot better. Today, I only have slight itching in the crooks of my arms and knees, especially when I am sweating a lot. But that is nothing serious.
I strongly recommend for anybody reading these comments to put one on the SpiritScience videos. The amount of derp I am getting everyday from angry people is awesome and this just for asking for scientific proof of their claims. The best one to comment on is the Chakra one :)
*****
This sounds exciting. Must investigate the hate.
I have ventured to reply to a few of them in a controlled manner and was inundated with replies of weapon-grade stupidity. I had to take the banhammer to my wall.
They are impervious to facts, logic and reason. An army of vacant-brained, vapid-eyed, nauseating morons. They will happily propose alternative cosmological models despite the fact that most of them have never stepped inside a science department in their lives, let alone graduate from one.
I will second ***** in the sense that they are worse than creationists. Creationists tend to distrust or dismiss science altogether. New Agers think they are well versed in it! Or in fact, better at it than real scientists.
No.
I'm a sadist-not a masochist.
o.O
KalimaShaktide which chakra video?
I'm really embarrassed to say I fell for this for a while.... until I decided to watch these videos and I realized I was being an idiot and started actually thinking about things. so thank you. thank you for helping me not being an idiot.
Being open to new information and willing to change your mind in accordance with it makes you a very intelligent person. Having the wrong information doesnt make you unintelligent, being unwilling to change does.
Rurike thank you
Careful, Jordan may pick up on the phrase "Energy favorable pattern" and somehow spin it to claim that you agree with him.
This Spirit Science guy puts so much work to promote this nonsense in a word-salady and kinda eloquent manner, that it's hard to tell if he believes half of it. I mean, I understand that some people feel there's some kind of "higher" spiritual level to life, but if you come up with all these complex systems and theories to explain it, don't you at some point realize that there's no basis for any of it?
There's a lot of basis for most of it. You just aren't looking, because we, as humans, are not that great at branching out. We don't look for evidence to support beliefs that we do not share, that's common psychology. Look it up.
TrindyForce No unfortunately there is no basis for any of it really. All of this "science" that spirit science is spitting out has no evidence to believe it. There are mountains of evidence to believe in what goes on psychologically and physically inside us and about world civilizations. There currently are no evidence for intelligent beings visiting our solar system, let alone our planet. This spirit science stuff is just a load of mumbo jumbo that has just about no evidence to support anything that it says.
Max Dennis Yeah, I said that because I felt that martymer was an annoying douchebag, I'm kinda now arguing the opposite point the the one I made here in a few other conversations...
TrindyForce Good for you!! Does that mean you examined the evidence and changed your position? The world would be a better place if everyone was able to do that.
It's very simple: you make some unsupported assertions, take them for granted and then use them as premises to support more assertions. You can build as big a castle of cards as you want.
Breakfast IS my favorite mode of transportation! How did you know?
I prefer to travel via Ginger Ale myself.
No... Toothpicks are best car
Sanctum Quis But toothpicks are expensive.......
SeanStrife Get a spirit to tell you to steal some and blame it on 'it felt right'.
Sanctum Quis GOOD IDEA!
Oof, flashbacks to following Jordan's instructions and ruining a large selenite egg I had by submerging it in water, not knowing that water erodes selenite. Thanks, Jordan!
Crystals have a mind of their own... because we all know, that deep down inside every one of them, there is this burning desire to jump out of your pocket and make their way slowly, but surely, back to their master in the very heart of Mordor.
And the keys to your house and car.
The only thing that was amusing about the 'crystal movie' is what my girlfriend and I came up with based on Jordan's beliefs.
1. Everything is a vibration.
2. Crystals vibrate at frequencies.
3. Different frequencies do different things.
Therefore
Someone needs to make a battery less crystal vibrator.
That's right. The new aged movement needs to stop just putting crystals on strings and wires and fashioning them into sex toys! I mean... Who wouldn't want a rose quartz crystal vibrator?!
Isn't it the stone of ... love?
sabertooth1980 I do tf 💀
Could really really reach out and touch someone with those vibrations ;)
2 crystals in the pink one in the stink is what I call the "Chakra"
@@barth9580 that'll get to the root of your problem.
Sex isn’t precisely love, it could be rape you dumb ass motherfucker consider all options before you comment your dumb ass thought, you with your nasty thoughts shouldn’t be able to talk about such wise things “you could make it a vibrator right, rose quartz means love” no you shithead you are just dirty and close minded fucking rascal
You say crystals have no healing properties but I've been in a depressive slump for days ...
After watching this video my self deprecating internal monologue is drowned out by the echos of such epic stupidity that I think I might go have a shower and then do something constructive.
I think I understand what he said about silicon in a chip and crystals being able to effect vibration and mood. What happens when I type "Fuck you computer" or "I hate your processor"? Do I hurt my laptop's feelings and make it more vulnerable to computer viruses? LOL Aww no worries, laptop. I love you:)
Wait, if crystals are alive as they claim, then doesn't that make the people who buy them slave owners? Does that make the people who sell them slave traders? How can they not only condone, but actively participate in slavery? New Agers are monsters! I thought slavery was illegal in this country!
What do you mean? breakfast is my favorite mode of transportation. I mean what's wrong with breakfast?
LOL
EPICLUMA 97 RH my favorite mode of transportation is chicken alfredo. I know -- not spectacular but I like it XD
Published on my birthday...I love crystals but only because they are beautiful..Spirit Science is some hippie garbage
Hey man, if your breakfast is a goat sausage, and you're the god of thunder, Thor, your breakfast literally is your transportation.
I am a practical nurse of mental health and substance abuse. I think you are doing really important work at explaining how science work and what science is. That really can and will make a purpose in this world. You are really thorough and easily understood and polite within reason to the concept of the channel. And unlike most critics you do not mock people for their religion or just because they belief but you underline the problem within their believe/believes beside science. Even it is something that believer do or don’t want to know or hear.Believing in something divine can be restoring and give meaning to life. And that kind of feelings are important for everyone, not just for “believers”. I also think that yarning for those feelings are the ground for the most of the “stupid”. Science on the other hand is more like ingredients on a recipe not the whole setting. It is just the thing there is to measure or not. Oh yeah, and then there is the logic thingy. Keep up the good work!
First 99% of this video = light hearted and hilarious. final 1% soul crushing
Shit, my crystals charge is running low and it's night time. I'm fucked.
I am a Spirit Science fan, but you do have many good points You make me want to research farther.
Excellent. :)
Thats all anyone should ask of you
Breakfast IS my favored mode of transportation
Steven Universe is what happens when you take this crystal woo, treat it like the sci-fi/fantasy it is, and give it good writers and animators. Healing gems, living gems, magic powers, aliens. It makes one cool show.
I bought a crystal once. It was a quartz "tower" from the National Petrified Forest because I think how those trees were made is super cool but buying a real piece is expensive. So I settled on some white quartz.
"Is that like saying breakfast is your favorite mode of transportation?"
I fucking lost it.
If Jordan's way of thinking (or selling nonsense to the gullible) caught on everywhere, we'd find ourselves right back in the 11th century.
Unfortunately this is aging like fine wine
Well, Seven Universe has healing powers, and he's part crystal. ;)
Spirit Science's lore sounds like Steven Universe on crack.
I'm pretty sure I know exactly what kind of crystal is Jordan's favorite.
Summary of this whole interaction:
"It's. Magic."
"How does the magic WORK, dumb-dumb?"
actually impure crystals (combined with some other elements like arsen) are used to make transistor (key, basic, very very very basic component of microchips). Not pure silicate crystal, the pure ones are isolators on room's temperature. So, how does that fit in "frequency of *sth* in higher dimension" theory?
How can you stomach sitting through those Spirit Science videos, Marty? I can barely tolerate the few clips you include in your own videos.
Clearly, you are made of sterner stuff than I.
Obsessive would be a little more accurate.
I have no problem sitting through there. Then again, I look at Spirit Science as "it's fine from a creative perspective, since it is interesting stuff to hear about". With that said... just because it's interesting doesn't make it true. I also find Greek mythology interesting, but you don't see me worshipping the Greek Pantheon.
What's true for one isn't always true for someone else. Anything that involves spirit, truth must be found within one's self.
Amy Goodman
*_What's true for one isn't always true for someone else. Anything that involves spirit, truth must be found within one's self._*
If a truth is dependent upon perspective, then it isn't true.
Either you can demonstrate that a claim is likely to be true and it is justified, or the truth claim is not justified and you can't say that you know it. This isn't rocket science.
The best part about life is each individual experience. And even better, I dont have to prove anything to you or anyone else to make my experience real. You can open or closed to your own experience and that's entirely up to you as an individual. And you're right, this isn't rocket science, not even close. Peace.
Science takes the fun out of everything! When I watch spirit science I get a warm, fuzzy feeling and choose to believe everything Jordan (Drunvalo) says because it gives me comfort. How dare you try to take away that feeling from me!
I broke down in laughing at the bit about transmitting thoughts onto a computer by pressing buttons.
How the heck do people really, honestly believe this horsecrap is beyond me. Nothing Jordan says is intelligent in any way it's much worse then Star Trek technobabble, at least that tried to make sense!
When you look at it, Star Trek made predictions about technology that we're seeing come about. That makes it far more scientific than what Jordan's peddling.
Don't know if it's true, but it sure is funny:
"The Orgone Accumulator, a device sold in the 1950s to allow a person sitting inside to attract orgone, a massless 'healing energy'. The FDA noted that one purchaser, a college professor, knew it was "phony" but found it "helpful because his wife sat quietly in it for four hours every day.""
Spirit Science is what happens when you snort Foot Loops and huff department store farts on the regular.
I must admit that I'm quite impressed how he can just add random words into something that actually sounds like a real sentence if you are not really paying attention.
I want a money generating crystal now.
Bad joke was bad, I know, shut up.
I wonder if Jordan thinks that everything that 'grows' is alive? Crystals do share that one property with living organisms after all, they grow over time. Of course by that definition he would also have to think that fire is also alive, and stalactites, and sand dunes, etc. The list goes on...
No...crystals require water in order to grow properly...Fire, sand dunes as I'm sure a many other things on your list would not relate with that characteristic..
Haku infinite
This is Jordan we're talking about, right? lol.
"No more space jews! Please!" Is a wonderful sound bite.
It's like watching martymer getting tortured, this man sits through the woo so we don't have to, from the bottom of my heart thank you.
University of Malburg? Uhm....maybe that exists in some "higher" Dimension...but not in Germany. Maybe he means Marburg...but some master-class researcher like Jordan wouldn't make such a mistake...would he? So...spent the rest of my time to search for that Dimensional Gate I guess.
Thanks Martymer81....this wooo needs debunking....man you have patience!! xD
Finally got back to watching the rest of this video, and I'd go one step further. Not only are these beliefs not harmless, I don't believe any beliefs are harmless. A belief, in this context, is the acceptance or rejection of some opinion without impartial evidence by necessity. After all, if there is impartial evidence for or against a claim, then accepting or rejecting the claim isn't based on belief, but on the claim meeting or not meeting a reasonable standard. For example, a belief that gravity exists isn't a belief, because it can be demonstrated impartially: two random people with nothing to lose or gain from the outcome can drop things, and demonstrate that gravity is, in fact, real. A belief that gravity does not exist can get you a 10-story shortcut to your local morgue.
Having said that, just believing what someone said doesn't mean it's a belief. If someone were to tell me they ate a ham sandwich, I wouldn't refuse to believe it unless they could show me a video of them eating, or had their stomach contents (or worse, feces) analyzed to prove there was ham, bread, and condiments in it. But believing that statement doesn't require me to change my outlook on life, the universe, and everything. So it's not really a belief. Believing something without impartial evidence that alters the way you view and interact with the world...there's no way that can be harmless because you're not seeing the world for what it is. You're marveling at the pretty little kitty without realizing it's a tiger, and it's hunting you.
BREAKFAST IS MY FAVORITE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. I LOVE YOU SIR. I AM LAUGHING UNCONTROLLABLY AT SIX AM.
YOU SIR, ARE MY HERO ! and general genius :D
[Outsider Looking In... Do Not Shoot The Messenger]
WRONG.. Crystals ARE alive.. I an give citations.. here's two>
1) What about the dreaming crystals, as explained in the Science Publication '"The Dreaming Jewels" by (I think) Theodore r Sturgeon.
And
2) The Crystal Entity that was shown TWICE in episodes of the Science Program "Star trek:The Next generation" ?
Why do you ignore these ESTEEMED science articles?
Space Jews, Ankh sextoys, Martians, Mayans, Crystal Skulls, Psychics, Crystal Energies...
I'm losing the will to live.
Spirit Science: *makes a bogus claim*
His source: I made it the f*ck up.
And hellz to the yeah, real medicine can and often does work when you're out cold. I'm going "WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!" on some screwed up anaesthetic and my surgeon's in there putting stents in my chest. God knows I'm not advocating the recreational use of "special K", but that stuff gave me one of my more enjoyable surgeries, LOL.
every time I hear "IBM" I think "international bowel movement".
+Dekropolis That's better than 'involuntary bowel movement'.
dondude69
I like yours better
"Space Jews" , I think Mel Brooks could make a really funny movie with that title
Breakfast is my favorite mode of transportation
I like that you bought up the placebo effect, which basically says that there is no active ingredient but the persons belief, and that brings the effect. Doctors say that the placebo effect works on at least 30% of people. I think the key here is that their "Belief" brings about results - Isn't that what Spirit and God is all about? So if a person believes that a certain crystal brings about a certain spiritual aspect is it totally false to say it won't?
"So if a person believes that a certain crystal brings about a certain spiritual aspect is it totally false to say it won't?"
It's not false, because the point is that it isn't the crystal that brings a certain spiritual aspect, it is the person/user. As long as they believe in whatever the particular 'remedy' is. So even if it does work, it's not the specific object that is doing the work, because the same response could be gained from a placebo in the form of a pill, a crystal, a wristband, or otherwise.
I'd like a source for your "Doctors say that the placebo effect works on at least 30% of people." statement, if only because I think that also kind of misses out on the point that placebo doesn't work for all conditions.
Thank you, I think... And Google knows everything, or can point you in the right direction for the stats at least.
Sure. It's just better to get at least some sort of link/lead from the person bringing up the point, in case I come across the wrong info or something if I searched.
/agree, links do make it easier, but some times half the fun of knowledge is the trip it takes to get there. Have some fun, it'll make you happy :)
Except that the starting point for me is where you ended your search. If you give me _your source_ I can read over it, and check its sources and otherwise.
This sort of stuff is fun, but telling someone to find the answer is actually rather rude in my book.
If you were as smart as you pretend to be in these video's; you wouldn't be making them at all. And I'm sorry that you're suffering enough to feel that you need to talk trash about the ideas of others at all. Thank you for your perspective though, as it is essential since nobody else has it.
Nobody else? Rational people have his point of view. Only nutjobs think crystals work.
That's not what I'm talking about, I leave any effects people experience with crystals down to the placebo effect. But if its still helping them; leave them be.
Well, the whole point of placebo effect is that _it's not an effect_, it is a "I feel better" without actually addressing the problem. I'd rather see those people seek proper aid and actually get better, then just go around "thinking happy thoughts". Sadly, the world doesn't work with those alone. Being positive is one thing, actively deceiving yourself and others is another.
Debunking false beliefs is a service.
I actually hate when people say "Mayan calendar"while showing the Aztec Sun Stone, if only they went to the second most popular archeological zone in Mexico, Chichen Itza, they could learn that the Mayan Calendar I the "pyramid" named "El Castillo".
"NO MORE SPACE JEWS.. PLEASE!!"
You Sir, are my hero :D
Gotcha...if crystals doens't work the way Spirit Science told us what powers my Protoss buildings when I play starcraft?
Who needs peer reviewed studies if advanced Aliens using it?
Entaro Tassadar!
Steve Jobs... #1 example of dieing because of woo.
Not cancer you dolt. He could have gotten real treatment but he went with new age woo and it did nothing. By the time he turned back to medicine it was to late. He could have been treated when medicine discovered the cancer but he took the alternative woo route and paid with his life.
He would have died anyway. The ten year survival rate after diagnosis for cancer of the pancreas is about 1%. For five years it's 3%. And for one year it's 22%. Maybe Jobs sought alternative therapies because he was aware of mainstream medicine's failure to treat cancer of the pancreas. Jobs actually fared better than the average patient receiving full treatment for pancreatic cancer.
He actually took an intelligent approach to treat cancer. Dean Ornish demonstrated in a CRT that prostate cancer can go into remission by eating a healthful diet. Of course, prostate cancer has a much better survival rate than pancreatic cancer. If Jobs had prostate cancer instead and reversed it through a healthful diet he'd look brilliant. However, neither mainstream treatment of cancer nor diet and exercise is an effective treatment for cancer of the pancreas.
He probably got cancer from working with all sorts of carcinogens in a computer factory.
NUTCASE71733 if he would have listened t p his doctors when it was discovered he had a good chamce of survival. But he went the woo route and paid for it with his life. Alternative medicine just becomes medicine if it works. But if it is just woo then it never truely works and stays alternative.
Clyde Rembrandt Jobs was on a diet from Dean Ornish. While diet has been proven many times to help it is not the only path. You can eat better but you still need to seek care from a professional. Also you think Jobs was in thw factories? That is almost as insane as the woo he sought for care.
David Carnahan
"Also you think Jobs was in th[e] factories? That is almost as insane as the woo he sought for care"
Are you really this stupid or are you just trolling? Jobs had a job in a computer factory when he was 13 years old. allaboutstevejobs.com/bio/timeline.php
You are also a moron for thinking that conventional treatment of pancreatic cancer works well. 78% of pancreatic cancer patients die within 1 year of diagnosis. Steve Jobs outlived MOST of the people who undergo conventional treatment who have pancreatic cancer.
Keep smoking your tobacco and eating your meat, eggs, and dairy, and sitting on your ass instead of exercising. Why concern yourself with cancer prevention when cancer treatment is so successful? [sarcasm]
It really is all psychological. I’m not into crystals but into volcanic rocks. The obsidian chunk I have doesn’t have anything special about it other than the value I give it as a beautiful piece of the earth’s natural process. I feel a closeness to the earth through it. If I feel any source of comfort from holding it, it’s comparable to the comfort you would feel from holding a stuffed animal as a kid. 🧸 🤷🏻♀️
I love your humour, dude XD
So far I've watched at least 10 of your videos and they still didn't get old to me XD
pro tip: Microwave quartz, it makes these people SOOOOO upset. You can watch their hearts crumble :)
Does anything cool happen besides that?
It shatters and sparks, cant remember exactly, but its on yourtube.
HaydenHatTrick Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaank you.
i believe what you are referring to are the quartz that they use in BBQ lighters and we actually know why this happens
Quinton Webber No, there actually is a video of somebody putting quartz in a microwave. It's on dOvetastic's channel.
if u lived a thousand years ago and someone like jordan would tell you earth is round, you would say its flat
+anton broos But we knew the world was round a thousand years ago? Jordan would likely be one of those people that insists it's flat with a dome over it supported by four pillars.
Even if a statement is true, it is intellectually honest to not believe it until there is sufficient evidence to back the statement up. We don't assume that something is true until it is proven to be true.
If Jordan lived a thousand years ago he would be shilling some bullshit or another and it would be harder to debunk.
nope, if jordan says that 1+1=2 then he is right, in fact Martymer actually acknowledges the climate problems we have on the planet same as jordan does, difference is, jordan's an idiot and says stupid things, THAT is what martymer goes against.
That is true - if Jordan says something that is correct, then he is correct. That he is wrong about a lot of other, very basic things, does not change that. But I don't think that's what this thread is about >_>
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”
― Nikola Tesla
The claim that the orgon collector had a psychophysiological effect actually sounds legit to me... since the Placebo Effect is a type of psychophysiological effect.
THE IMPLICATION OF C R Y S T A L S L A V E R Y
"...money comes from money-making crystals." Well if you're the guy selling the crystal...
Placing bits of crystals and shit on cars to increase efficiency is something done by people who know nothing more than where the gas goes and which pedals are go and stop. Cars are miraculous feats of engineering, but that doesn't make them MAGIC!
Wait a minute...there is no University of Malburg - mostly because there is no city, town or village of that name in Germany. Probably he meant Marburg...but it just shows again how much those woo-peddlers care about acuracy.
It was in 1988 and we had some jerk trying to sell the idea that if you have the right crystal you will get better. This was at a HIV/ AIDS meeting. But it would only work if you have the right one for you and he would sell it and if it don't work only charge you 1/2 price to swap it for a new one.
Jokes on you, I drove a toast to school today.
Breakfast is my favorite mode of transportation ^.^
So crystals are like the One Ring? "It has a will of it's own. It wants to be found"
It's people like Jordan that make me cautious to keep minerals (as well as nifty rock formations) in my house. I have people come over and they think I'm into the whole pseudoscience bullshit When I really just like geology. And man, it's really been 6 years now since this video came out. Guess stupid is hard to change.
marty: kitch are cristals alive?
kitch: idiot
i died
I'm surprised Marymer didn't realize that it's possible that this 'spirit water' has a bit of an explanation to it. When you drink water, you don't taste the water itself, you taste the minerals inside of the water. So by putting in a rock, or crystal in the water for prolonged periods of time, it's possible that some sediments can be dissolved into the water, changing it's taste. As for how this affects your body? yeahno most likely placebo
so... if crystals have likes/dislikes and can leave whenever they want.... does that make owning a crystal a form of slavery. lol
Light saber crystals are useful. Especially the red ones.