Aoostar R1 NAS Review - Something Different... In a GOOD Way!
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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Video Chapters
00:00 - The Start
00:06 - Noise and Benchmark Disclaimer (it's only for a minute!)
01:14 - Review Start
01:30 - The Growing Middle Ground!!!
02:37 - Ummm..Pronunciation
03:07 - Hardware Specifications
03:20 - Pricing
04:30 - Shout out to Craft Computing
05:05 - Unboxing
05:14 - Who are Aoostar?
06:50 - PSU Size and connection complaints
08:08 - Design
08:41 - Drobo Data Transporter Throwback
09:12 - Compared with Synology and QNAP 1
10:10 - Ventilation
11:00 - Storage
13:00 - Vents close up
13:20 - The WiFi 6 setup
13:55 - Ports and Connectivity
16:55 Compared with Synology and QNAP 2
17:35 - Internal Hardware
18:05 - Internal Cooling
20:15 - That N100 CPU
23:24 - Noise Tests
27:10 - You will 100% replace that Win 11 install
28:40 - Proxmox Ready!!
29:45 - Review Conclusion and Verdict
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I've got one of these running Open Media Vault, as you said this will be many peoples first NAS/Mini PC type device. Setup has been easy, noise levels are perfectly fine in my study. Very happy with it so far, the N100 easily handles the Docker containers I am throwing at it.
Thank you for the review, now I'm fully confident to buy this.
You are simply the best. Congrats for your reviews 👏.
Hope you had a Merry Christmas and thanks for all the work during the year. Here we are moving into Boxing Day.
Thanks bud! Appreciate the props!
Thanks for dropping a Christmas Day video - hope you're having a fun day! I would love to see some Jellyfin performance testing on this, if that would be something you might consider?
Thanks. Please do more on this unit ,thanks.
Will do, plus the R7 as well this week
Thanks for your review I will buy this product
Superb product, superb review.
I really want to see fully populated "total at the wall performance power consumption" and idle power consumption.
Also, how does this stack up as a transcoding streaming device against a N5105?
Indeed, the idle power consumption would be good to to know!
Finding information really saves time.
Thanks. Longing for next year evolution - N200 and USB C power supply I hope ...
Look up the Terramaster F2-424, F4-424 and F4-424 Pro mate...
Greate video, I want to know the ideal power consumption cuz I will gonna buy it.
Thanks..
loving the pink F-91W
What a nice computer!
If I had seen your good video a week earlier, I would have bought this device as a Proxmox host.
Now I have an Asrock mini ITX also with an Intel N100. I soon discovered that the passive cooling of the CPU on that board falls short. While your Aoostar has a beautifully thought-out cooling system.
All in all, the Aoostar is very well thought out and I think you get a lot of value for money.
The N100 performs about three times as well as a J4125 and is three times more fuel-efficient.
Thank you for your good review!
Topton seems to sell the same computer btw.
Stay turned for the R7 vid special (not the review next week). It's a proxmox based delight! Merry Christmas
Topton buys the machine back from our company and puts their brand on it.
There are USB Type-C to DC barrel jack adapters that have built-in voltage selectors if the PSU is PD 19-20V capable. You can replace the power brick with a beefier phone charger.
this would be perfect for my home use. I run PLEX for serving out my content, collect content via PlayOn, and then store all my music/photos/documents. Throw 2 12TB Red Nas drives in and it would be perfect to replace my current nas using a Ryzen 5600G.
Just ordered a barebones one and it should be on it's way. Should be perfect to shuck two external Seagate drives and use this as my first NAS/ HTPC. Even though you mentioned no one would use this with Windows I guess will to start haha then maybe Synology DSM or some other nas software mostly for running a 24/7 Plex media server and local photos backup so I can finally rest my gaming pc.
Thank you! Ordered one week ago - First Server / NAS which will look good beside my PS5 / TV. I‘ll use this for Proxmox (opnsense, pihole, plex, home assistant and docker…) - only downside of this device is nvme x1 speed - but this is probably the n100 has only 9 pcie lanes…
Im planning on doing the same thing. How’s it going so far?
Great device! No problems so far 👍
HA with Zigbee stick?
@@kiclawyes, Conbee II
Despite the listed specs for the N100 R1, I'd swear I saw a second M.2 slot and its mounting post in the video at 22:04.
Gonna look into this one, as I know my R1 and R7 videos were recorded together and converted I had the wrong unit in the shot. Gonna be comparing them both in week 1 Jan, side by side, so that should resolve. Cheers for the keen eyes mate
Is it possible to remove the wifi module? To save some power? Also, those are 3.0 USB, not 3.2.
It is still fine for the minutes of intro, not going to skip it 😂
careful, most of the offered n100 solutions that look like this product do not come with 2x SO-DIMM slot as stated in the video.
the product description on them states that N100 models have 1x SO-DIMM up to 32gb support and instead its the ryzen versions that are the ones with 2x SO-DIMM slots
I went for the 5700u which is now 300 usd plus $5 shipping to the UK, directly from aoostar
I think that's the best value one
100% correct and agreed! My R7 vid in a couple of days will go into more detail on this
Noise might have been a bit less if you had installed the rubber feet or pads on the bottom so that vibrations would not have been transferred to the desk surface and allowed to resonate more. The difference might have been slight but perhaps it would have changed the character of the sound for the better.
Tbh it was the CPU fan that was audible..and rubber feet, or even a base silicon pad, would do little to mitigate
Trying to decide if 5700u version for (35% more money) is worth it for future proph and more versatility... What do You think? It wil be used mainly as proxmox base (2x nvme for 5700u with zfs) with pfsense, jellybean, home assistant and unifi controller. In the future maybe will take a role as a homelab. I have a different machine as NAS and most of the network is 1Gbp
even though there is an extra memory slot - the n100 spec on intel site says max support is 16GB RAM in single channel - no dual channel support it seems...
I would definitely be interested in how it performs as a Plex server.
100% gonna make this vid+ the R7 arrived and will do doing the same + a special. Merry Christmas man!
Thx! Same to u. Will be looking out for it! I refuse to buy the DS423+ at the going price!@@nascompares
Is there enough space for nvme Samsung 980 pro with heatsink (8.6mm) ?
Regarding usb-c, my unit has it marked as data, display and power so it could be it does accept power delivery in. I haven't tried it though
Since this video went out, I can confirm that all I got this port to do was provide external power...not the other way around. Bummer! Have a lovely Christmas
@@nascompares thanks for confirming. Happy Christmas to you too!
Nice unit to start out with, without a huge investment.
Yes, 90 watts might be a wee bit too much for the external powerbrick here but I rather have it oversized than undersized.
90 watts means you still have some decent headroom left and that powerbrick won't get ran into the higher temperatures. (which is often the cause of the failures)
But in this particular case/application a 65 watt brick probably would have been sufficient.
That is in fact(!) one of the complaints I do have with the QNAP's that do use external powerbricks, they do fail quite often.
And these are 90 watts.
(the seller on eBay sold a lot of replacements, go figure)
The 90W makes a pinch (and I really do mean just a small amount) more sense in the R7 version...even then, that one has flexible power settings too! Merry Christmas mate! Have a fantastic holiday!
@@nascompares True, it is a wee bit overkill for the R1, but in my experiences, 90 watt is not that too big, really. (read: 7.5 amps)
A 60 watt or 70 watts would possibly suffice (around 5 to 6 amps) All at 12 volts.
Perhaps Aoostar opted to 1x type of powerbrick (of 90 watts) across their range to make it logistically more sound, i.e. purchases, maintenance and warranty etc? Only 1x type of powerbrick to carry into their inventory. Just guessing of course.
BTW, I was mistaken, QNAP is using 120 watt powerbricks (12 volts, 10 amps), and much to my dispair I had plenty failures on both our 4 bays and 6 bays. (mostly on the 6 bays, for the statistics and after a prolonged period).
Fortunately, we do not have that many of those machines but I do believe at this point of time, we had to replace all of their external powerbricks by now due to failures. And oddly enough, they do not fail as in going dead completely, but instead all of sudden do not seem to be able to supply the required current (over-current protection?), so the relevant QNAP gets stuck into a cold boot-loop.
The problem with these powerbricks is that their heat-dissipation is not that good, as there are no openings to vent-out hot air or create an airflow. Only fair-sized heatsinks of some sort. By oversizing the powerbrick (a wee bit) I personally believe that the brick won't get as much hot (beyond about 40 degrees Celsius or so) and thus last longer.
You, your family and Eddie having a fantastic holiday and a Merry Christmas.
I have run into issues getting an IPv4 address configured in TrueNAS. Wondering if anyone else has experienced ths or if perhaps my unit has an issue?
Hardware haven, and alternative aliexpress listings say usb c supports PD… so much conflicting info going around on these devices
Sadly, yeah!
Regarding the layout of the mobo stuck between the drives, it's really similar to the WD Ex2 Ultra
Wait till the R7 Review..that mobo placement becomes even less positive...
@@nascompares guess what, looking at 21:50, this is not the internals of a N100-based R1. Checking pictures I took of mine, the R1 has a single NVME slot (PCI-E Gen3, 2 lanes) and a single sodimm slot, as the N100 only has a single memory channel. What you show could in fact be Ryzen machine.
@@ndupontnet Hmm, you actually have an N100-based R1, so guess my speculation about why I saw 2 x M.2 slots and 2 x SODIMM in the video was wrong. It's not uncommon for Chinese manufacturers to provide incorrect specs, and my N5105 4-port firewall box has 2 x M.2 NVMe slots, each with one lane. I was also guessing that maybe 2 SODIMM's could still be wired as single channel, but I've never seen that before.
@@dktol56 that would be quite something, let's see in the next video 😊
@@dktol56 multiple slots wired on a single channel is common in cheap laptops and in big desktop motherboards (where there are 4 slots, divided on 2 channels)
22:25 You didn't mention whether it was running on PCIe 4, 3 or 2.
Proxmox runs well on mine, but was a hell to install : v7.4 needing custom x11 settings files to start installation. Then update to v8. Idle consumption around 10W without any HDD
I also got it barebones, added 32GB crucial ddr4 and Sk Hynix P31 1TB nvme.
Even hardware transcoding works with Jellyfin, nice little home lab with excellent energy efficiency overall.
Thank you for this pointer. I'll be making a special on the R7 version and running something similar. I appreciate the extra notes man!
Why don't use text installer?
@@leito1996 I haven't seen a text installer for v7. And v8 just wouldn't install ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@ndupontnet what did happen when trying to install? Got me worried, my R1 is on its way to me :/
@@leito1996 I cannot remember the message but it looks like it was related to partionning more than anything else.
I am a complete noob in all this. I am planning on buying this solution and running Proxmox with a pfsense VM for router needs for the house. Is this a good idea? Would I need extra equipment in the R1 to make this happen? A card with WAN and LAN ports?
Yes, it can do it all, with one WAN and one LAN port. If it was me I'd get a switch to connect to the LAN for more ports if needed. You can add a Ubiquiti access point or your existing home router for WiFi.
@@userlicioustv I just got it. Im waiting for SATA drives to arrive.
But might just start wiping it and installing Proxmox. Then...TrueNAS Scale and OpnSense?
@ManuelMas yes that should work! As for me I’m getting one to run TrueNAS with mirrored hard drives as an offsite backup.
If only this system had 4 bays.. 😍 (and was less ugly imho). Seems a great buy for the money though
It's the CPU fan pwm and manageable from the os? Many Chinese PCs don't let the os manage fan speed.
Tbh it's a windows 11 os and it's a CPU fan (the other has zero control), so that's about the limit of OS fan control. Merry Christmas bud!
@@nascompares thanks for the response. Too bad the bottom fan isn't PWM. Guess replacing it with a noctua could do the job.
Also, ecc support - is it there?
Merry Christmas to you as well!
cool
You said that there are 2 RAM slots, but the N100 only supports one channel, so I think that there is something wrong with the board if they put 1 extra slot for nothing
It will run both slots in single channel. That's how multiple slots work when there is a single channel. On matx and atx desktop motherboards there are 2 slots per channel so two slots are on the same channel, it's not a problem (besides the fact that it is a single channel) There are two slots shown in 18:45
@@marcogenovesi8570 please look at Intel N100 specs, it only supports 1 stick of RAM. It is a limitation from Intel itself for the processor.
When is rhe plex testing comming 😭!?
Great internal parts, but the case form factor is totally unpractical. How would you stack 3 of them for a Proxmox cluster?
You definitely wouldn't, unless you needed to cook some or your radiators were busted!
I would be interested to see how its bios and capabilities look like, and also real power consumption killawatt reading.
Ok I got one. Just incase anyone have similar question. Bios is nothing special. just enough to boot. pretty much like any bios you find in a basic laptop.
Power consumption is around 13w idle with 2 hdd and 1 ssd, 8GB ram on headless OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with selective powertop tuning.
Do you think it would be possible to make a nas with cheap £20 1tb micro sd cards
Possible, yes. Would it make any sense whatsoever? No
I mean...yes...sort of (raspberry pi or even a normal Nas with multiple card readers)..but..the performance would be awful and creating parity and redundancy would be unstable at best. Lastly, even if you held the os on a USB stick using something like UnRAID, it would still result on data access and retrieval being pretty unsatisfactory...that said....NOW you have me wondering.... potential special video for the channel? Thanks for the comment man
There's also a AMD 5700U model
Absolutely..And that vid lands within the week + a banger part 3 coming in Jan!
Is the R1 a better device for Plex than the R7????
The R1 is transcodable and has low power consumption, and we have a very large number of customers purchasing the R1 as their PLEX server
Please install unraid on it and do a Review
Tbh I'll be going proxmox and then some in Jan!
Unraid o the sd card…
2-bay? Surely it's no more than a toy?
I purchased one and intend to use as a Jellyfin/Plex server for personal use. I discovered that under Windows the Bluetooth 5 capability with the RTK 8852 BE Chip (Wi-Fi 6 Module CDW-C9852BE) does not work. Wifi 6 does work fine for wireless connectivity however. Windows device/drivers setup seems fine and no Bluetooth install errors in device manager, but transmit (not discoverable by other computers or devices running Bluetooth) or attempt to add Bluetooth devices like mouse or keyboard will not show up in Windows. I updated to the most recent 8852 drivers but still not working. Has anyone else who bought this unit tried Bluetooth and is it working?
Hi, is this the same as you see in Alixxxxx? Is it worth the price over dyi?
Tbh I'm seeing the same build under different names over there for wild pricing! It's a bit of a fish in barrel situation over there for finding this system
yes... whats about those SSDs for 20.-- for 2TB? are they worth it@@nascompares