I saw the writing on the wall when DJU transferred to FSU. They were going to experience the same pains that we at Clemson experienced for two years. DJ never developed as a player. He showed an initial promise in his first game at Clemson against Notre Dame, subbing for Trevor, but that was it.
If DJ Ukelele was NorveLLL's #1 QB target, then he's incompetent. It's also pretty telling that he has to rent an entire team out of the portal in year 5.
NIL is the unmentioned factor in all this. I understand Mike wants to be able to pitch loyalty to recruits, but playing the best players is an even better pitch in the long run.
You have nothing to lose now. Brock and Luke need game reps. Money has to be a factor at this point. Norvell made his bed with DJU, now he has to sleep in it.
Born and raised in Florida and I did the war chant before I said mamma and I've haven't missed a home game since Danny McManus. DJ might be the worse QB I've ever seen at FSU.
I'm wondering why he didn't adjust his offense to the QB everyone seen DJ at Clemson and Oregon state the offense cannot be placed on his shoulders he has to be surrounded with alot of talent he cannot enhance any player
I don’t care how much you paid for DJU,he isn’t even close to the quality FSU needs and the more you keep playing him the bigger hole you are digging for yourself Coach Norvell
I think all those reasons are true. I also think he feels a bit obligated to DJ and his family for bringing them here. I hope it has nothing to do with his NIL contract.
Norvell thinks DJU gives them the best chance to win. Hahahahaha. So much for the future of this team. He should have never gone to the portal for DJ when Brock did his time and learned behind Travis. It’s an insult to FSU culture.
The whole Warchant media team finally sees how terrible DJU is and are backtracking on their statements. And I still cannot believe Corey, Ira, Tom and Jeff had him as the #1 player coming into this season. Whatever spell they had yall on I’m glad it’s finally wore off on you.
THE BUSINESS OF FOOTBALL 101...The "OFFENSIVE LINE" has to control the line of scrimmage for at least 5 sec's and that's the bare minimum! This accomplishes 2 key things in any kind of pass offense. #1 the QB can read the field. #2 The WR's will have time to run basic routes or utilize their speed to blow by the defense. WITHOUT THIS! THERE IS NO PASS OFFENSE, THE QB WILL BE RUSHED/SACKED AND HIS READS WILL BE REDUCED TO SHORT THROWS, AND IF THE PASS GAME IS OFF HE SHOULD DUMP THE BALL TO HIS TIDE END. BUT IF YOU SHOULD DISCOVER THAT THE TE CANT CATCH. THEN WHO'S LEFT TO CATCH THE FOOTBALL? RBS? KEEP IN MIND THEY ARE RB'S FOR A REASON...FAILURE , AFTER FAILURE , AFTER FAILURE, OFFENSIVELY THIS IS NOT AN FSU PRODUCT WORTHY OF THE PRACTICE FIELD. TO SAY THE LEAST DJU HAS MADE A FEW ERRORS AT TIMES BUT I LIKED HIS FILM FROM OREGON STATE ON WHOLE AND HE LOOKED COMPETENT AS A PASSER. I KNOW HES TRYING TO BE SILENT ABOUT THE O-LINE PLAY, BUT MY GOD DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND WATCH THE L -SIDE OF FSU OFFENSIVE LINE...THEN GET BACK TO ME ABOUT DJU. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE STAFF AT FSU HAS FAILD THEMSELVES, THE PLAYERS, AND THE FANS OF THIS TEAM. ANY QB WHO STEPS UP TO TAKE A SNAP BEHIND THIS O-LINE NEEDS TO HAVE HIS MOUTH GUARD IN AND HIS CHIN STRAPS TIGHT.
Why bring in Brock only to have him sit behind transfer DJU and not develop. Who is the future QB of this team? DJU is not going to give this organization a winning chance, especially against power teams. Brock showed grit in the ACC Championship and deserves a shot as starter.
I seen three games of DJ and I've seen enough he needs to sit on the bench you got a more athletic quarterback in Brock and I'm sorry you can't convince me that Brock score 14 points against California
Why has DJU become the Tua of FSU? I really like DJ, and rooted for him for the last seven months to ignite this offense. But Norvell’s stubbornness reminds me off Bobby’s blind loyalty to Chris Rix (f***!) and Jeff Bowden (5X f***!). Enough already … I walked away from FSU because of Bowden’s utter unwillingness to make necessary changes, and I’ll do it again (this from an alum - so sad).
Norvell refusal to start using either Brock or Luke has completely zapped any joy I had watching FSU football. The guy doesn't want to admit he messed up bringing in DJ. There is absolutely no need to keep rolling DJ out there out at the expense of the development of our future QBs.
Noevell did the QB carousel with JT and Mckenzie and JT wasn't even playing bad football. And now you're telling us he can't do that now with a more mobile QB in Brock? Tell the people we're this makes any sense. Give the young guy some playing time that's all the fans want.
NO I could not disagree more with what was said at the 1:30 mark. DJU was ALWAYS this bad. The only reason that Clemson overcame it is that there was a ton of talent and a good defense. He did okay with Oregon State because they had a good run game and played a lot of nobodies. He has not been good since his freshman year. I was a grad assistant at Clemson that year and I can tell you from seeing it myself that the kid is amazing at practice. He doesn't miss receivers, he works so hard, he has the best attitude on the field, he stays late and gets there first, and he studies and knows his stuff. And the minute that the game starts he forgets everything, gets lead feet, the game goes too fast for him, and he gets the yips. And he slows EVERYONE down with him. At practice it looks fine, but if you look at practice tapes compared to other years with TLaw or DWat he is SO MUCH slower than they were, but since everyone is walking through at 3/4 speed it doesn't show in practice. He is a total bust and no amount of coaching or effort is going to fix it. If it was it would have happened. The kid's problem has never been effort or work ethic. It is the yips plain and simple.
By the way we had an all-star lineup of receivers for him to use and they ALL LOOKED BAD when he threw to them. If 12 players who were great the year before ALL look terrible, its time to look at the common denominator. His rhythm is off and his pass is hard to catch because of it (not to mention the fact that it is never placed right and receivers have to break routes to get them). That is why your receivers look bad
DJ cannot run Mikes offense. The RPO style needs a smart athletic QB. DJ is neither. If Mike insists on DJ, u have to change the offense to a drop back pro style.
These posts have echoed what i would have said. But lets throw in a new wrinkle. Line brock up as halfback and ket dj fake it to him or toss it to him and let brock run or pass. Or do it with cam.
Dj is a joke. I've never seen such worthless play ever. Bench him for good. Dj is selling us out. Never in Fsu football have we seen such a awful player Seriously.. time to send him to the bench. Actually send him to the class room Its oblivious. This is sad.
Couldn’t agree more that DJ is not a quality starter, period. I’ve seen so many open guys that don’t get targeted. He’s super slow to process plays, doesn’t make good decisions when he does throw, is typically late on his throws, and finally he never runs n creates plays when things break down. DJ has been god awful and it’s affected our entire offense. And yes playing a different QB would fix a lot of issues, if not most of em. So I disagree vehemently with the Warchant staff. Not for nothing guys but you’ve been by n large wrong on most of your coverage of this program. You guys didn’t trust JTrav or Johnny Wilson. Yall hyped this team a ton during the offseason n now everyone wonders what the heck Yall saw at practice smh. I appreciate Yall but I’m not putting any value on the opinions.
LSU, OSU and now FSU...at what point do you drop the underperforming stock? DJ is SLOW at EVERYTHING. Pack up Norvell and his entire program and start over.
At 3 losses SO FAR, fsu is locked out of any recognizable bowl. The rest of this season is a glorified practice. What purpose does it serve to play dj any more?
Put his big ass on the bench he runs faster in that little video. You just saw him at practice. Then he runs in a football game. He is embarrassingly scared to run the football quarterback.
If Norvell plays a green neophyte Qb like Glenn, Norvell will lose this team completely and players will quit like they did prior to the Orange Bowl. It would be a total disaster to put Glenn behind a porous O-line, with no running game and receivers that drop more balls than they can catch. Norvell has no confidence at all in Glenn and don't be surprised to see him hit the Portal soon. FSU fans need to grow up and stop crying about replacing DJU with Glenn, because that latter has no future as starting quarterback at FSU. Look for Norvell to hit the portal again for a starting quarterback for FSU next season. DJU made a big mistake coming to FSU with a team that has no running backs or good receivers who are the best of the unwanted at any other top twenty program. The future of FSU football with Memphis Norvell is Bleak and Grim. No Cap. Truth Hurts.
Mike Novel needs to go and the Defensevise Cornandnator has destroyed this university, and they both have felled flat on there face . Totally embarrassment and trash QB, and Mike Novel needs to be fired on site. Clemson Tigers, Miami, and Florida Gators are going to beat us like drum 🥁 🪘 And Mickey Andrews should be upset about this lame duck pathetic team and unprepared undisciplined team. Bad all the way around. All the Seminoles greats who played here should speak up . And come in give there words of wisdom absolutely true . Clemson Tigers are going bruied FSU and Miami Hurricane to . Oh'Yeah don't forget Notre Dame to. Fire 🔥 fire trash QB and Mike Novel. I'm a fan butt this sucks . God help us Seminoles fans . Embrasssment at the highest level.
Norvell wants to win with his own QB - his first move decline scholarship of Jeff sims - who came down here and beat us as a freshman GT -he preferred Chubba Purdy over everyone he had on roster - He made James Blackman look worse than he did previously. He did not like Jordan so he brought in McKenzie - Norvell is disloyal everyone who was recruited and made it to FSU prior to Norvell was better than what Norvell brought in. He was not loyal to Tate and he left but he was better than DJ - and Norvell has him looking worse than ever. We would be 4- 0 if Tate was here.
@@SurferRC Seen it happen in MLB also. Lousy baseball players making big bucks get more playing time than others. I don't like it, but this seems to be the case all too often.
This is why i love listening to Jeff, he keeps it REAL!!
It's a shame that Norvell doesn't see the need to grow his future QB...for next year....We can't do worse if he benched DJ
I don’t understand why they don’t even have certain packages for Brock. UF is starting Mertz with packages for Lagway.
And look how good the gators are!
Michigan too won with 52 yards passing but they are at least seeing what else they have at QB! Why waste next year learning when we can learn now!?
I agree 100
@@johnbopp1820 I know... better than us😅
Check back in November and see if uf's coach is still employed
I can’t believe my ears that Ira would even debate if DJU should ever see the field here.
JC I’m happy one other person at least sees captain obvious
I saw the writing on the wall when DJU transferred to FSU. They were going to experience the same pains that we at Clemson experienced for two years. DJ never developed as a player. He showed an initial promise in his first game at Clemson against Notre Dame, subbing for Trevor, but that was it.
You can’t just keep taking L’s for the seniors. Do what’s best for the whole team. Right now that’s giving the young guns some snaps.
If DJ Ukelele was NorveLLL's #1 QB target, then he's incompetent. It's also pretty telling that he has to rent an entire team out of the portal in year 5.
NIL is the unmentioned factor in all this. I understand Mike wants to be able to pitch loyalty to recruits, but playing the best players is an even better pitch in the long run.
Exactly!!!! It's all about the money!!!!!
All about the money and signed contracts.
Investors take hits on bad stock, and FSU has a bad investment. Sometimes, you have to take a loss and move on.
Army scored 56 on Memphis one week after FSU scored 12 !!!
DJU was awful at Clemson. We lived on pins and needles with DJU at the helm. My nerves stayed tore up.
Luke's resume is awesome !
You have nothing to lose now. Brock and Luke need game reps. Money has to be a factor at this point. Norvell made his bed with DJU, now he has to sleep in it.
Born and raised in Florida and I did the war chant before I said mamma and I've haven't missed a home game since Danny McManus. DJ might be the worse QB I've ever seen at FSU.
He is the worst QB in FSU history, I don't think any other FSU quarterback has ever played this bad. Not one. Dan Kendra played better .
Is the back up in the portal yet
I'm wondering why he didn't adjust his offense to the QB everyone seen DJ at Clemson and Oregon state the offense cannot be placed on his shoulders he has to be surrounded with alot of talent he cannot enhance any player
Whats the differense wjen we're averaging 65 yards rushing? Never thought it would be this bad in the 33 years ive been a fan.
Did Norvell try to get Eli Holstein or Kyle McCord. Both of those fellows are balling this year.
I don’t care how much you paid for DJU,he isn’t even close to the quality FSU needs and the more you keep playing him the bigger hole you are digging for yourself Coach Norvell
I think all those reasons are true.
I also think he feels a bit obligated to DJ and his family for bringing them here.
I hope it has nothing to do with his NIL contract.
Norvell thinks DJU gives them the best chance to win. Hahahahaha. So much for the future of this team. He should have never gone to the portal for DJ when Brock did his time and learned behind Travis. It’s an insult to FSU culture.
DJ has failed Norvell, Norvell has failed DJ
Yep smart statement
Norvell has failed us as fans
Love this statement. Just wasn’t a good fit.
The whole Warchant media team finally sees how terrible DJU is and are backtracking on their statements. And I still cannot believe Corey, Ira, Tom and Jeff had him as the #1 player coming into this season. Whatever spell they had yall on I’m glad it’s finally wore off on you.
Norvell hasn't recruited a QB who did anything for FSU
The thing I hate about terrible QB’s is you can get a feel for the rest of the guys on offense
All I need DJ to do is get the ball to the receivers, NOT to the defenders hands.
If hes the best we got. Well we're in deep trouble 😢
But we dont know until we see them play in a game this year
What has to happen to fire Mike? Is it a possibility? I don’t see any way around it.
Are we going to score enough to keep up with Smu !!
DJU for the Highsmith throhy!😁☝️#🏆
THE BUSINESS OF FOOTBALL 101...The "OFFENSIVE LINE" has to control the line of scrimmage for at least 5 sec's and that's the bare minimum! This accomplishes 2 key things in any kind of pass offense. #1 the QB can read the field. #2 The WR's will have time to run basic routes or utilize their speed to blow by the defense. WITHOUT THIS! THERE IS NO PASS OFFENSE, THE QB WILL BE RUSHED/SACKED AND HIS READS WILL BE REDUCED TO SHORT THROWS, AND IF THE PASS GAME IS OFF HE SHOULD DUMP THE BALL TO HIS TIDE END. BUT IF YOU SHOULD DISCOVER THAT THE TE CANT CATCH. THEN WHO'S LEFT TO CATCH THE FOOTBALL? RBS? KEEP IN MIND THEY ARE RB'S FOR A REASON...FAILURE , AFTER FAILURE , AFTER FAILURE, OFFENSIVELY THIS IS NOT AN FSU PRODUCT WORTHY OF THE PRACTICE FIELD. TO SAY THE LEAST DJU HAS MADE A FEW ERRORS AT TIMES BUT I LIKED HIS FILM FROM OREGON STATE ON WHOLE AND HE LOOKED COMPETENT AS A PASSER. I KNOW HES TRYING TO BE SILENT ABOUT THE O-LINE PLAY, BUT MY GOD DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND WATCH THE L -SIDE OF FSU OFFENSIVE LINE...THEN GET BACK TO ME ABOUT DJU. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE STAFF AT FSU HAS FAILD THEMSELVES, THE PLAYERS, AND THE FANS OF THIS TEAM. ANY QB WHO STEPS UP TO TAKE A SNAP BEHIND THIS O-LINE NEEDS TO HAVE HIS MOUTH GUARD IN AND HIS CHIN STRAPS TIGHT.
Is Iras profile pic from 20 years ago?
We need to see Brock Glenn get at least a few snaps. The younger guys will still be here next year.
We hope the young guys stay
@@kylegoodwin131 Good point...If they don't get some game time this season, we can wave bye-bye.
@@kylegoodwin131 I would be suprised if they leave. DJ is only here for this season so next year is open for competition
@@jsteve8052 Still, DJ can take a seat with how he's been playing.
Why not start DJ but get Brock some packages against SMU just to see if he gets a spark going.
Brock isn't the future it's the other kid behind him that has better skills. The young freshman recruit this year.
So who would be the qb if we didn’t get dj
Why bring in Brock only to have him sit behind transfer DJU and not develop. Who is the future QB of this team? DJU is not going to give this organization a winning chance, especially against power teams. Brock showed grit in the ACC Championship and deserves a shot as starter.
The oline is inconsistent too. Hard time running the ball. Too much qb pressure. Its not all djs fault.
Has lester played any
I don’t think so. But they could be saving him for a redshirt
I seen three games of DJ and I've seen enough he needs to sit on the bench you got a more athletic quarterback in Brock and I'm sorry you can't convince me that Brock score 14 points against California
All good coaches adapt. I can't keep rolling DJ out there with his slow decision-making process with the ball.
Why has DJU become the Tua of FSU? I really like DJ, and rooted for him for the last seven months to ignite this offense. But Norvell’s stubbornness reminds me off Bobby’s blind loyalty to Chris Rix (f***!) and Jeff Bowden (5X f***!). Enough already … I walked away from FSU because of Bowden’s utter unwillingness to make necessary changes, and I’ll do it again (this from an alum - so sad).
how dare you mention the R word
Also- Ward will be rix for Miami at least once this year.
Pride is one helluva drug....we understand starting a young QB is not the solution, but it would contribute to the long term. DJU.....nah
Norvell refusal to start using either Brock or Luke has completely zapped any joy I had watching FSU football. The guy doesn't want to admit he messed up bringing in DJ. There is absolutely no need to keep rolling DJ out there out at the expense of the development of our future QBs.
Noevell did the QB carousel with JT and Mckenzie and JT wasn't even playing bad football. And now you're telling us he can't do that now with a more mobile QB in Brock? Tell the people we're this makes any sense. Give the young guy some playing time that's all the fans want.
What does this really say about Brock and Luke?
Because Brock literally can’t throw we witnessed this in the Louisville game.
NO I could not disagree more with what was said at the 1:30 mark. DJU was ALWAYS this bad. The only reason that Clemson overcame it is that there was a ton of talent and a good defense. He did okay with Oregon State because they had a good run game and played a lot of nobodies. He has not been good since his freshman year. I was a grad assistant at Clemson that year and I can tell you from seeing it myself that the kid is amazing at practice. He doesn't miss receivers, he works so hard, he has the best attitude on the field, he stays late and gets there first, and he studies and knows his stuff. And the minute that the game starts he forgets everything, gets lead feet, the game goes too fast for him, and he gets the yips. And he slows EVERYONE down with him. At practice it looks fine, but if you look at practice tapes compared to other years with TLaw or DWat he is SO MUCH slower than they were, but since everyone is walking through at 3/4 speed it doesn't show in practice. He is a total bust and no amount of coaching or effort is going to fix it. If it was it would have happened. The kid's problem has never been effort or work ethic. It is the yips plain and simple.
By the way we had an all-star lineup of receivers for him to use and they ALL LOOKED BAD when he threw to them. If 12 players who were great the year before ALL look terrible, its time to look at the common denominator. His rhythm is off and his pass is hard to catch because of it (not to mention the fact that it is never placed right and receivers have to break routes to get them). That is why your receivers look bad
DJ cannot run Mikes offense. The RPO style needs a smart athletic QB. DJ is neither. If Mike insists on DJ, u have to change the offense to a drop back pro style.
False. DJ has always been the same. Inconsistent and can’t think straight when the defense sends the blitz.
These posts have echoed what i would have said. But lets throw in a new wrinkle. Line brock up as halfback and ket dj fake it to him or toss it to him and let brock run or pass. Or do it with cam.
Dj is a joke. I've never seen such worthless play ever. Bench him for good. Dj is selling us out. Never in Fsu football have we seen such a awful player
Seriously.. time to send him to the bench. Actually send him to the class room
Its oblivious. This is sad.
Lmao You wrong Mike. Imagine having Arch Manning as backup oh wait a team does we dont have 1 qb. Also Ira what you smokin its good
Getting really tired of the pundents and their rationalization🤬
I agree wholeheartedly. Jeff is the only one that talks with any sense. The rest of them skirts around the obvious.
Couldn’t agree more that DJ is not a quality starter, period. I’ve seen so many open guys that don’t get targeted. He’s super slow to process plays, doesn’t make good decisions when he does throw, is typically late on his throws, and finally he never runs n creates plays when things break down. DJ has been god awful and it’s affected our entire offense. And yes playing a different QB would fix a lot of issues, if not most of em. So I disagree vehemently with the Warchant staff. Not for nothing guys but you’ve been by n large wrong on most of your coverage of this program. You guys didn’t trust JTrav or Johnny Wilson. Yall hyped this team a ton during the offseason n now everyone wonders what the heck Yall saw at practice smh. I appreciate Yall but I’m not putting any value on the opinions.
LSU, OSU and now FSU...at what point do you drop the underperforming stock? DJ is SLOW at EVERYTHING. Pack up Norvell and his entire program and start over.
Because they are paying him too much to bench him.
we really wanted Cam Norvell just fumble the ball
The line does suck but he still misses receivers when he has time and slow to throw.
Norvell needs to drop the ego
Brock and Luke have to be horrible the recruiting has been lacking and caught up with is
Norvell may think that next years QB will come through the portal.
Well this years didnt
@@Imknottshore DJ transferred from Oregon State.
Loyalty
The only reason he's continued to start is because he's expensive
At 3 losses SO FAR, fsu is locked out of any recognizable bowl. The rest of this season is a glorified practice.
What purpose does it serve to play dj any more?
Novell bad move bring in D.j flu.. season over, should be building for next year!! Play brock mane!!!
How the coach have to see that dj is not it
Danzy
That B-roll footage looks like I could have looked better doing those drills. SMH.
BENCH MIKE NORVELL!!!!
Moore Kimberly Jackson Kevin Thomas Cynthia
I’ve BEEN saying it, DJ on the field because NIL
That money is gone either way no sense wasting game reps on someone with no eligibility left
He missed a wide open receiver late in the game. Over through him and it wasn't even close. He's not accurate.
The qb room sucks
Don't mess with the climb ,
3 wins max.
Put his big ass on the bench he runs faster in that little video. You just saw him at practice. Then he runs in a football game. He is embarrassingly scared to run the football quarterback.
Dju is slow and tired
If Norvell plays a green neophyte Qb like Glenn, Norvell will lose this team completely and players will quit like they did prior to the Orange Bowl.
It would be a total disaster to put Glenn behind a porous O-line, with no running game and receivers that drop more balls than they can catch.
Norvell has no confidence at all in Glenn and don't be surprised to see him hit the Portal soon. FSU fans need to grow up and stop crying about replacing DJU with Glenn, because that latter has no future as starting quarterback at FSU. Look for Norvell to hit the portal again for a starting quarterback for FSU next season. DJU made a big mistake coming to FSU with a team that has no running backs or good receivers who are the best of the unwanted at any other top twenty program. The future of FSU football with Memphis Norvell is Bleak and Grim. No Cap. Truth Hurts.
DJ sucks bench him and play Glenn or Luke
Hey spent far too much nil on him...
Too late... he's already wrong
Norvell is wrong
He is no good 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mike Novel needs to go and the Defensevise Cornandnator has destroyed this university, and they both have felled flat on there face .
Totally embarrassment and trash QB, and Mike Novel needs to be fired on site.
Clemson Tigers, Miami, and Florida Gators are going to beat us like drum 🥁 🪘
And Mickey Andrews should be upset about this lame duck pathetic team and unprepared undisciplined team.
Bad all the way around.
All the Seminoles greats who played here should speak up .
And come in give there words of wisdom absolutely true .
Clemson Tigers are going bruied FSU and Miami Hurricane to . Oh'Yeah don't forget Notre Dame to.
Fire 🔥 fire trash QB and Mike Novel.
I'm a fan butt this sucks .
God help us Seminoles fans .
Embrasssment at the highest level.
This offense is awful
Norvell wants to win with his own QB - his first move decline scholarship of Jeff sims - who came down here and beat us as a freshman GT -he preferred Chubba Purdy over everyone he had on roster
- He made James Blackman look worse than he did previously.
He did not like Jordan so he brought in McKenzie - Norvell is disloyal everyone who was recruited and made it to FSU prior to Norvell was better than what Norvell brought in. He was not loyal to Tate and he left but he was better than DJ - and Norvell has him looking worse than ever.
We would be 4- 0 if Tate was here.
When you pay 'em you gotta play 'em.
Lol no you dont they get paid if they get injured so thats just a false statement
Negative. They already got paid who cares if he sucks bench em
@@SurferRC Seen it happen in MLB also. Lousy baseball players making big bucks get more playing time than others. I don't like it, but this seems to be the case all too often.
the recievers haven't helped him out helped at all and Morlock at tight end has stone hands