Thanks for this. No one spills these kind of secrets. Please advise on LTD at half time approach. I understand one gets more selections as all you need is 1 goal in the second half by either team if draw at halftime. Keep them coming.
not necessarily, depends on the odds differences, unless you are letting it run to the final whistle. Often a big dog scoring will still not raise the draw price much unless its after 80 minutes
does it work the other way round? I mean the exact opposite scenario; the favourite one is the away team (below 2.0) draw odds below 4.5 and the away team scores first 75% of the time and the home team concedes first 75% of the time. Great Video!!
Hi, I have noticed in the video at 12:43 that the Away team 1st to concede is only 60% and not 70% as you advised. So, to me that bet shouldn't have been placed. Am I correct in my assumption?
So the rules are not the rules then?? Im a little confused. If your not doing it exactly how you say then how do we know what percentage we can go with? Also Im not so sure that there are many games where these percentages match up at 70% @@BetfairTradingCommunity
Hi Ryan surely you mean make the liability a flat 2% of your bank and not stake 2% of your bank? For example if bank was 10K then £200 would be maximum risk and not £200 @ 4.5 lay which would risk £700? Thanks.
I do "lay the draw" and I don't need all this BS. What you do is lay the draw when the home favourite at less than 1.7 and above 1.3. Considering that there are millions of people out there that study football statistics, you can be sure that the odds available accurately reflect the outcomes. I have tested this accuracy over many years and it holds true. So the next step is to determine a price on the 1-1 draw result and back it as well but not to save the entire lay bet should it fail but to save a percentage of the liability (about 25%) and over the course hundreds of games that percentage becomes your profit. Never trade out. This cancels the assessed odds that are determined for a full game. The other thing is that once my method is placed, you can sit back and let it play out. Actually, I think I will do a video to show how to do this.
@@BetfairTradingCommunity So what do you call dithering around a game for the full 90 minutes and nothing to show for it at the end? Yes it is BS and good for me for understanding this.
@@TheManorBeast Trust me. There is no way this method works and he makes money. Imagine trying to do this work on a Saturday when there are many games going at the same time and then he cashes out. Sorry, but it is BS. Too much to concentrate on and that is just for one game.
I cant find the 'First Goal' stats on soccer stats in the premier league. I can see them on championship and lower leagues. Is it because they have not played enough games yet? Thanks in advance.
Hi Ryan another let down again! Not really telling us something new. I am still waiting for your overs 4.5 goals. I might get it sometime this decade. Happy punting.
Martin here if you are serious and not trolling can you send an email to info@betfairtradingcommunity.com and I can find out the strategy you are after (assume it's one Ryan has mentioned?) and I can get it sent to you. Thanks
Can this strategy be applied during the beginning of the new football season? Because there might be some changes in players, coach, strategies, etc., or should we wait for sometimes to see the trend of that team before using the strategies? Thanks.
£2 lay stake returning 60p is 30% ROI. However it’s not the true ROI because your not risking £2 your risking half your lay liability. Which would be more like £3.50. So the ROI is actually more like 17%. So in order to make this profitable long term you’d have to get over 6 wins in a row to make a profit, because if the 7th game ends in a loss your back to square 1, or am I missing something?
@@moneymaster4812 How do you know they don't? My comment sounded like i was having a go but I'm not. I've escaped the rat race because of btc. Betfair trading is a real thing.
Has a system thats been profitable for 16 years.. shares it for free where thousands could start using it, the market adjusts and its no longer profitable... Not to mention if you scaled in those 16 years you'd be a multi millionaire .. not posting from your nans bedroom 😂
@@BetfairTradingCommunity He makes valid points, and then you act like a 13 year old by calling him a numpty. Why not reply with some kind of reason and logic as to how he is wrong and you're right? Maybe because you know he's right?
Sixteen years of data, including when Man City were a different story, and people still think we can predict the future? Hilarious! Using past results to guess future outcomes is like using last year's UK weather forecast to plan tomorrow’s picnic-completely unreliable
It's talking about experience and not to use data that is 16 years old. That said to not consider data from the recent past is nuts, why do you think data scientists get paid so much money, data is a huge indicator in the predictions world. FACT
@@BetfairTradingCommunity Absolutely! Data scientists know that using old data to predict sports results is completely redundant. I do believe in catching trends over the past 6-10 games, but 16 years? The game evolves, teams evolve, and relying on ancient data just doesn’t cut it in the world of predictions. Data scientists use complex programming to build solid algorithms-right down to details like weather conditions, if the game was played under floodlights, wind direction-everything. It’s not just throwing past results into a Google Sheet and saying ‘boom, here’s the winner!’ That’s why they get paid good money
Thanks for this. No one spills these kind of secrets. Please advise on LTD at half time approach. I understand one gets more selections as all you need is 1 goal in the second half by either team if draw at halftime. Keep them coming.
Hey! Thank you, when it comes to the HT LTD what are you after?
not necessarily, depends on the odds differences, unless you are letting it run to the final whistle. Often a big dog scoring will still not raise the draw price much unless its after 80 minutes
does it work the other way round? I mean the exact opposite scenario; the favourite one is the away team (below 2.0) draw odds below 4.5 and the away team scores first 75% of the time and the home team concedes first 75% of the time. Great Video!!
Would need to test it to give an answer.
If u say the visitant scores we w8ting at 80min, what happed if local team scores at 75 or 77 we cash out and take lost?
Hi, I have noticed in the video at 12:43 that the Away team 1st to concede is only 60% and not 70% as you advised. So, to me that bet shouldn't have been placed. Am I correct in my assumption?
Yeh on the exact stats it wouldn't but sometimes I take a view on it based on how close it is to it and how strongly I think it will play out.
So the rules are not the rules then?? Im a little confused. If your not doing it exactly how you say then how do we know what percentage we can go with? Also Im not so sure that there are many games where these percentages match up at 70% @@BetfairTradingCommunity
@@leonmoore9848 I cant find any searching manually
is there any way to get first scored/conceded stats for friendly intrenational games? i cant find a good site anywhere..
Not sure on that one
Hi Ryan surely you mean make the liability a flat 2% of your bank and not stake 2% of your bank? For example if bank was 10K then £200 would be maximum risk and not £200 @ 4.5 lay which would risk £700?
Thanks.
he means: " lay 2 pounds" and the risk will be between 5 and 7%. (draw odds minus 1) multiplied by our stake(2%) is our risk
Don't Confuse him, Paul. lol
*Aright Dave? Pyramid!*
Would you just stick to main stream leagues with this ?
not really I like most leagues
I do "lay the draw" and I don't need all this BS. What you do is lay the draw when the home favourite at less than 1.7 and above 1.3. Considering that there are millions of people out there that study football statistics, you can be sure that the odds available accurately reflect the outcomes. I have tested this accuracy over many years and it holds true. So the next step is to determine a price on the 1-1 draw result and back it as well but not to save the entire lay bet should it fail but to save a percentage of the liability (about 25%) and over the course hundreds of games that percentage becomes your profit. Never trade out. This cancels the assessed odds that are determined for a full game. The other thing is that once my method is placed, you can sit back and let it play out. Actually, I think I will do a video to show how to do this.
it's not bs but good for you sir ;)
@@BetfairTradingCommunity So what do you call dithering around a game for the full 90 minutes and nothing to show for it at the end? Yes it is BS and good for me for understanding this.
Would love to see the video, thanks
@@ztheletter5296
How has he got nothing to show for it ?
He's back tested the long term profits
@@TheManorBeast Trust me. There is no way this method works and he makes money. Imagine trying to do this work on a Saturday when there are many games going at the same time and then he cashes out. Sorry, but it is BS. Too much to concentrate on and that is just for one game.
I cant find the 'First Goal' stats on soccer stats in the premier league. I can see them on championship and lower leagues. Is it because they have not played enough games yet? Thanks in advance.
Genuinely entertaining video.
Cheers buddy :D come you like it so much?
If you so sure of your strategy witch you're been perfecting for last 16 years why use so small stakes as an example? Does not persuade me
Well it's a good job I am not trying to persuade you isn't it ;)
"witch"?????????
Hi Ryan another let down again! Not really telling us something new. I am still waiting for your overs 4.5 goals. I might get it sometime this decade. Happy punting.
Martin here if you are serious and not trolling can you send an email to info@betfairtradingcommunity.com and I can find out the strategy you are after (assume it's one Ryan has mentioned?) and I can get it sent to you. Thanks
Can this strategy be applied during the beginning of the new football season? Because there might be some changes in players, coach, strategies, etc., or should we wait for sometimes to see the trend of that team before using the strategies? Thanks.
I tend to wait at least 5 matches, then I do it. Which works well, but best to apply my super trader framework to this ;) you seen it?
@@BetfairTradingCommunity Not yet. Please help send me the link. Thanks.
Absolutely it can. Remember that the odds reflected on the Betfair exchange are very accurate according to millions of people that are in the know.
@@BetfairTradingCommunity how many filtered matches can you find in a week ? Because the filtering sounds really really strict.
home team scores first 70% how many previous games ? 5 ? 10 ? 20 ? 1 years ?
Last 10 games for me! :D
£2 lay stake returning 60p is 30% ROI. However it’s not the true ROI because your not risking £2 your risking half your lay liability. Which would be more like £3.50. So the ROI is actually more like 17%. So in order to make this profitable long term you’d have to get over 6 wins in a row to make a profit, because if the 7th game ends in a loss your back to square 1, or am I missing something?
Depends on the odds, they aren't the same per match
You are also trading, not betting, so should be trading out before you lose your whole stake
Does the trade have to be placed at kick off or can it be done before I go to work in the morning?
Can be done anytime before the game, however you will need to be about to trade this.
How many matches a week. Match ??? Cheers Dan
All depends, there's usually a decent amount, enough for me to use this for years.
@@BetfairTradingCommunity That's a very tiny data sample, Ryan. This strategy doesn't work mate.
uhh yes one of the most profitable, your account balance of £50 tells a lot
This video is going to get pulled down and re edited lmfao
Little tester account I use mate ;)
Nah it won't!
@@moneymaster4812 How do you know they don't? My comment sounded like i was having a go but I'm not. I've escaped the rat race because of btc. Betfair trading is a real thing.
Those curtains ooze 'I've made it' 😂
Draw two matches for me pls
one of our members has a really good back the draw strategy recently, doing it on EPL games.
Brother I send I'd betpro u winning help me
Replied to other comment :)
Wtf ? 16 years of data showing this is profitable and you lay for two quid ? Jesus man, hardly very confidence creating
Example for a video not a trade
@@BetfairTradingCommunity LOL
Has a system thats been profitable for 16 years.. shares it for free where thousands could start using it, the market adjusts and its no longer profitable...
Not to mention if you scaled in those 16 years you'd be a multi millionaire .. not posting from your nans bedroom 😂
what a numpty you are!
@@BetfairTradingCommunity He makes valid points, and then you act like a 13 year old by calling him a numpty. Why not reply with some kind of reason and logic as to how he is wrong and you're right?
Maybe because you know he's right?
What a load of rollocks lol
there he is!
@@BetfairTradingCommunity There he is...Ryan Carruthers....talking bollocks lol
Sixteen years of data, including when Man City were a different story, and people still think we can predict the future? Hilarious! Using past results to guess future outcomes is like using last year's UK weather forecast to plan tomorrow’s picnic-completely unreliable
It's talking about experience and not to use data that is 16 years old. That said to not consider data from the recent past is nuts, why do you think data scientists get paid so much money, data is a huge indicator in the predictions world. FACT
@@BetfairTradingCommunity Absolutely! Data scientists know that using old data to predict sports results is completely redundant. I do believe in catching trends over the past 6-10 games, but 16 years? The game evolves, teams evolve, and relying on ancient data just doesn’t cut it in the world of predictions. Data scientists use complex programming to build solid algorithms-right down to details like weather conditions, if the game was played under floodlights, wind direction-everything. It’s not just throwing past results into a Google Sheet and saying ‘boom, here’s the winner!’ That’s why they get paid good money