Hello Mr.Caan Can you tell me who are the one or two best horse racing tipsters to follow for value profit And also I would like to suggest you to upload reviews on top 10 horse racing tips providers on internet i.e Bookie Enemy, Quintin Frank , Bet Alchemist Make review videos on all of them one by one 🙏
To vague on how you decided villa would contract,yes we all know they had a big win week before and yes there is some relevant info on info goal but a lot of games with this criteria wouldn’t really move or drift.
Sorry, David. Will try harder in the future. It's a fair comment, there was a lot more tha could have been shared behind the reasoning there, although on the flip side, not much benefit to just post on RUclips. Will make an effort to be more detailed next time. Thanks for pointing this out :)
Yeah I don't really get where the edge is here or at least it isn't explained. Why did you believe the market wasn't priced correctly 2 hours before KO? From what I can see it's just as likely that the price moves in the opposite direction. You mentioned Villa's recent results as why they would be favourites but that would already be priced in and not an indicator that prices will continue to contract
@@benjyyy that was my first thought too. I'm wondering if the average punter places their bets one or two hours before the game. Essentially the market doesn't fully form it's opinion until right up to the kick off
That’s part of the skill of trading, and it isn’t a risk free activity, sometimes it will go against you and you need to be prepared to take the loss and move on. If you don’t want any risk then best avoided.
@@benjyyy As I understand it (and I might be wrong), there is the mathematical probability of an event happening, and corresponding odds that could be worked out accurately. But that is not the only thing that determines actual odds on the exchange, there is also big daft Joe Public's opinion, much of it possibly beer fuelled before the game starts. How much weighting this has on the available odds I don't know, but it must evidently skew the odds and provide value opportunities somewhere, otherwise, aside from just after team news and unless an injury to a key player happens in the warm up, odds would remain the same. So I guess what I am saying is if there is no team news or injuries or anything that changes the mathematical likelihood of certain outcomes for an hour before the match, yet the price does move, then it must be incorrect at one stage or another. Trying to guess what the largest portion of Joe Public thinks does seem like the best way to guess which direction it is going to go in
Really good! I took a break from learning how to trade football but keen to get back into it. Glad to see you’re still here giving valuable and educational tips!
Really good example to any newbie (or indeed an intermediate trader) of how to play the market. Great reference to what the use of £500 actually means. Good to see a lovely profit before a ball is licked (especially when you consider the end result!) Cheers again Caan
Yes, I think sometimes people think those kind of stakes pre-game mean far bigger numbers. Never at any point was that at risk though unless it was left to run full time. In-play trading is a different ballgame of course. This is a lower risk more reliable way to approach the markets. Glad you found it of use.
All your trades you post always work out perfectly. I am sure you are a very successful trader and it does work out for you most of the time. But could you maybe show your thought process behind a trade that does not go exactly as planned? and how you exit the trade? Cheers Adam.
Excellent video really shows the power of trading and not having your total stake at risk I like this more than horses racing preoff as you don’t get big swings in price and can still get out in play without a big loss vs horse in play
Good stuff. Nice to see something about pre-match football as it seems more like 'proper' trading. The in play strategies you normally see are a bit too close to gambling I think. More would be great. Cheers!
Great vid, trying to get my head around trading and wondered how much you layed? Im used to having the cash out in the bet fair sportsbook, I assume unused a lay calculator?
Too bad, seemed like a pretty obvious one... but then hindsight is always a great thing. I thought it would certainly hit 2.08 before entering, little suprised it touched 1.94 in the end. A solid trade :)
Hi Caan thanks for all your videos, can I ask is it possible to do these pre match price movement trades on football, horse racing etc without any software? I get you can see the current movements as they happen but can I do it without the software? I saw a good chance on Man City really today, they were around 1.75 a few hours before kick off which seemed over priced to me, and it came in to about 1.65 at kick off. I didn't get involved on the price movement but did back city at the 80th minute at odds of 3.6 to then cash out 4 minutes later 1-0 up! kaboom !
As a Leeds fan I was watching the odds on this one. Definitely there was some early movement probably down to the recency bias of the Liverpool result and Leeds lost their previous match vs Wolves imo. Think the price went even more because Kalvin Phillips was ruled out and people only found out when the team sheet was released and Liam Cooper the captain was ruled out late too. This is a strategy I am really interested in, thanks for posting. I'm using Sofa Score App and following football team twitter accounts for team sheet news. It can be tough keeping up with everything to try find your angle though.
All fair observations there, John. Looking into the market behaviour can be quite telling at the best of times too. People seem to have a bias to reading excessive amounts of form etc (probably derived from the things media push).
I've been trading a good while now and that was one of the clearest. most concise explanations I've ever seen. Good to see you talking about football trading also; I know you've favoured pre-off horses for a long time so this is great stuff. Thanks Caan.
Caan... do you need to have an odds compilation model for football that includes Xg and player rating etc to know what the market is going to do so if you know price is going to firm or drift? Or u look for signals in the graphs?
I want to get into betting exchange, but there's a key point I'm tryna figure out. If I match someone's bet and he decides to cash out before the match finishes, doesn't that leave me at a loss, after placing an opposite bet on a traditional bookmaker? What if people keep doing that? If I match someone's bet, can I stop the other person from cashing out in-play?
I do go away... but not because of temptation. If you can't control the trigger finger you're in trouble! I know its a common problem for newbies mind. You have to learn how to set emotions aside.
Hey man awesome video, how many trades are you making on a daily basis, as I imagine the research aspect must take you some time. I see some other salty people commenting as they just want you to tell them how to make money, as with all things we don’t know exactly what the market will do, are there some instances where you make the incorrect call and you need to close out a loss position as well?
I want to join the Betting Exchange for Arbitrage Betting. I wish to lay on the exchange and back on my local bookmaker. But there is something I need to be sure of before I start though. If I lay on the exchange and my bet gets matched ( by one person or more people), is it possible that the other person just cancels the bet or just cashes out mid-game? Coz if a person does that, then I'm exposed on the bookmaker. Also, if after my lay bet gets matched and odds rise in-game all through to the end, will it add to my liability?
Hey Caan, appreciate your content. One question about this strategy. I got in a very early backing two days ahead of a game and the odds are moving in my favour. Now when I want to lay this bet, it only shows a potential profit on the team I backed. The other team and the draw show a potential profit of zero. So basically the potential profit isn't showing on all three options. I can press the cash-out and still make a profit, but it would be bigger if I could lay the bet. Any idea as to why this happens? I'm pretty new to this :)
Think he intimated that a £6.25 loss would be where to call it a day. You could lose 5 of those trades and still be £19 up. You need to have discipline to do that and not chase a bet in the same market, it can go in-play and you end up gambling where you had no intention of doing so.
Prevention is always better than cure when it comes to trading although will look at dealing with losses and get one done at some point no problem. Thanks for letting us know what is interesting!
what worries me sometimes is if you have say £500 pound you dnt want to risk all, on a trade ready to cashout on price movement but then website goes down I think I have seen other vid on this what do you do in this instance
Im just doing demo mode at moment I like greyhounds I know volitile market but I think quite good trying that as once going to horses/football easier with it being less volatile to get your prices matched - in demo mode are your prices matched easier than real money or exactly the same im using geeks toy
Do you think strongly tipped teams can cause profitable movements? Also, how important the weight of money you think is in this case? I think leaving a position open for hours to take some ticks might be interesting, but keeping an eye in the information flowing prior to the off seems a bit stressful
Media influence and the crowds impression can be a very important thing yes. In some instances you find masses of people will bet a certain outcome regardless of the current price. Tipping is a funny one though, depends on the source. If we're talking one of the top football pundits going on a rant 30 mins before the match on prime TV, it could made an impact. Is that how you meant? Weight of 'matched' money is always important.
@@CaanBerryProTrader thanks for the view, Caan, asking for the WOM since in horse racing I find it only useful for a scalp and thought a different dimension was given to it when it comes to football. Will be looking forward for chances in pre-match trading, thanks a lot for the example in the video, cheers!
Complete beginner here can you give me tip best markets in games I bet over x goals in games I tried it on netfair just exact same as normal betting sight looking for more ways than this thanks mate you look gifted on this stuff.
@@CaanBerryProTrader Yes, thanks for your reply. I was also wondering if there was any way to scalp the correct score before KO since the value per tick on those odds are bigger?
You can cash-out, but you should really learn the difference between the two models. If you were using a sportsbook you would have had a tiny slither of the same result as they rip you off on the initial odds and the cash-out price. Trading exchanges that operate at almost 100% overround brings far better results.
thats a lot of capital for 49 pounds. not sure i want to put up that kind of risk when i could put it on low risk stocks make 20% and be paid a 3-7% dividend while i wait hmmm
See last weeks football strategy upload here: ruclips.net/video/3pp04fyca0w/видео.html
Hello Mr.Caan
Can you tell me who are the one or two best horse racing tipsters to follow for value profit
And also I would like to suggest you to upload reviews on top 10 horse racing tips providers on internet i.e Bookie Enemy, Quintin Frank , Bet Alchemist
Make review videos on all of them one by one 🙏
To vague on how you decided villa would contract,yes we all know they had a big win week before and yes there is some relevant info on info goal but a lot of games with this criteria wouldn’t really move or drift.
Sorry, David. Will try harder in the future. It's a fair comment, there was a lot more tha could have been shared behind the reasoning there, although on the flip side, not much benefit to just post on RUclips. Will make an effort to be more detailed next time. Thanks for pointing this out :)
Yeah I don't really get where the edge is here or at least it isn't explained. Why did you believe the market wasn't priced correctly 2 hours before KO? From what I can see it's just as likely that the price moves in the opposite direction. You mentioned Villa's recent results as why they would be favourites but that would already be priced in and not an indicator that prices will continue to contract
@@benjyyy that was my first thought too. I'm wondering if the average punter places their bets one or two hours before the game. Essentially the market doesn't fully form it's opinion until right up to the kick off
That’s part of the skill of trading, and it isn’t a risk free activity, sometimes it will go against you and you need to be prepared to take the loss and move on. If you don’t want any risk then best avoided.
@@benjyyy As I understand it (and I might be wrong), there is the mathematical probability of an event happening, and corresponding odds that could be worked out accurately. But that is not the only thing that determines actual odds on the exchange, there is also big daft Joe Public's opinion, much of it possibly beer fuelled before the game starts. How much weighting this has on the available odds I don't know, but it must evidently skew the odds and provide value opportunities somewhere, otherwise, aside from just after team news and unless an injury to a key player happens in the warm up, odds would remain the same. So I guess what I am saying is if there is no team news or injuries or anything that changes the mathematical likelihood of certain outcomes for an hour before the match, yet the price does move, then it must be incorrect at one stage or another. Trying to guess what the largest portion of Joe Public thinks does seem like the best way to guess which direction it is going to go in
Really good! I took a break from learning how to trade football but keen to get back into it. Glad to see you’re still here giving valuable and educational tips!
Welcome back!
Fairplay to you Caan. Everyday is a schoolday for me when I watch your videos. Much appreciated dude.
Really good example to any newbie (or indeed an intermediate trader) of how to play the market. Great reference to what the use of £500 actually means. Good to see a lovely profit before a ball is licked (especially when you consider the end result!)
Cheers again Caan
Yes, I think sometimes people think those kind of stakes pre-game mean far bigger numbers. Never at any point was that at risk though unless it was left to run full time. In-play trading is a different ballgame of course. This is a lower risk more reliable way to approach the markets. Glad you found it of use.
All Leeds arnt we
All your trades you post always work out perfectly. I am sure you are a very successful trader and it does work out for you most of the time. But could you maybe show your thought process behind a trade that does not go exactly as planned? and how you exit the trade? Cheers Adam.
Excellent video really shows the power of trading and not having your total stake at risk I like this more than horses racing preoff as you don’t get big swings in price and can still get out in play without a big loss vs horse in play
Yes. I think newbies always panic when they look at the stakes but its not the stake at risk... not pre-game.
I miss betfair so bad. They were forced out of the Canadian markets. Now we get ripped off from local bookies with horrible odds.
Good stuff. Nice to see something about pre-match football as it seems more like 'proper' trading. The in play strategies you normally see are a bit too close to gambling I think. More would be great. Cheers!
Yea I know what you mean having seen some of them bounced about... there's some funny stuff out there.
@@CaanBerryProTrader some of it's trading, some is value betting and a lot of it is madness with affiliate links attached :D
Great vid, trying to get my head around trading and wondered how much you layed? Im used to having the cash out in the bet fair sportsbook, I assume unused a lay calculator?
Just got up to the B2L module of the video course pack today and I'm loving it so far!
Good stuff. Perfect for the NH season just starting proper.
Great video matey! You're like the Joe Rogan of Trading 👏
Was literally debating this exact trade and didn't do it. Now I see you made a video of it.. pahaha good going anyway
Too bad, seemed like a pretty obvious one... but then hindsight is always a great thing. I thought it would certainly hit 2.08 before entering, little suprised it touched 1.94 in the end. A solid trade :)
Nice Caan.. GG on the trade and profit. Great video and easy to follow.
Appreciate it! More like this a good thing for you? I think on reflection it was a little quick. Will try harder next time.
Thanks Caan, Good solid advice , as always.
Thanks. We do try our best with the vids on the channel!
Great video Caan, I normally trade horse racing and greyhounds using GT but this was a very Informative clip cheers 👍
No drama. Would you like to see more like this then.
@@CaanBerryProTrader Would love to see more videos like this one Caan cheers 👍
whats GT?
Hi Caan thanks for all your videos, can I ask is it possible to do these pre match price movement trades on football, horse racing etc without any software? I get you can see the current movements as they happen but can I do it without the software? I saw a good chance on Man City really today, they were around 1.75 a few hours before kick off which seemed over priced to me, and it came in to about 1.65 at kick off. I didn't get involved on the price movement but did back city at the 80th minute at odds of 3.6 to then cash out 4 minutes later 1-0 up! kaboom !
As a Leeds fan I was watching the odds on this one. Definitely there was some early movement probably down to the recency bias of the Liverpool result and Leeds lost their previous match vs Wolves imo. Think the price went even more because Kalvin Phillips was ruled out and people only found out when the team sheet was released and Liam Cooper the captain was ruled out late too. This is a strategy I am really interested in, thanks for posting. I'm using Sofa Score App and following football team twitter accounts for team sheet news. It can be tough keeping up with everything to try find your angle though.
All fair observations there, John. Looking into the market behaviour can be quite telling at the best of times too. People seem to have a bias to reading excessive amounts of form etc (probably derived from the things media push).
Hi Caan nice video, interested to know if that price on Villa would have been at the top of the range would that have put you off?
I've been trading a good while now and that was one of the clearest. most concise explanations I've ever seen. Good to see you talking about football trading also; I know you've favoured pre-off horses for a long time so this is great stuff. Thanks Caan.
You didn't explain why you thought the Aston Villa odds would shorten/contract ?
I hinted at it :) will try harder next time ;)
@Claus Smith hi Claus. Didn't know that you could open a betfair account from a forbidden US state. Interesting...
Do you have more pre-game strategies?
When its the better time to place pre game bets?
Good Video
Yes, take a peek a the other vids on the channel.
Brilliant, great use of logic there Caan
At the core of every decent football trading strategy (or any other sport for that matter).
great video mate, is there any way to automate this process ? Being realistic how much you think can be made on average per game with a 5k bank ?
Automation is a tool used by many. Not too sure you could program in some edges though, successfully.
Well explained video Caan
Cheers, Paul. More like this of use or not?
Caan... do you need to have an odds compilation model for football that includes Xg and player rating etc to know what the market is going to do so if you know price is going to firm or drift? Or u look for signals in the graphs?
I want to get into betting exchange, but there's a key point I'm tryna figure out. If I match someone's bet and he decides to cash out before the match finishes, doesn't that leave me at a loss, after placing an opposite bet on a traditional bookmaker? What if people keep doing that?
If I match someone's bet, can I stop the other person from cashing out in-play?
Appreciate the specific examples! Do you physically go away from the computer so you dont get tempted to cash out early or do you follow it live?
I do go away... but not because of temptation. If you can't control the trigger finger you're in trouble! I know its a common problem for newbies mind. You have to learn how to set emotions aside.
Nice trade Caan. Great example of pre match trading
Thanks, Mark. I think it could have been better but wante to get it out there and shared soonest!
Hey man awesome video, how many trades are you making on a daily basis, as I imagine the research aspect must take you some time.
I see some other salty people commenting as they just want you to tell them how to make money, as with all things we don’t know exactly what the market will do, are there some instances where you make the incorrect call and you need to close out a loss position as well?
I want to join the Betting Exchange for Arbitrage Betting. I wish to lay on the exchange and back on my local bookmaker. But there is something I need to be sure of before I start though. If I lay on the exchange and my bet gets matched ( by one person or more people), is it possible that the other person just cancels the bet or just cashes out mid-game? Coz if a person does that, then I'm exposed on the bookmaker.
Also, if after my lay bet gets matched and odds rise in-game all through to the end, will it add to my liability?
Hey Caan, appreciate your content. One question about this strategy. I got in a very early backing two days ahead of a game and the odds are moving in my favour. Now when I want to lay this bet, it only shows a potential profit on the team I backed. The other team and the draw show a potential profit of zero. So basically the potential profit isn't showing on all three options. I can press the cash-out and still make a profit, but it would be bigger if I could lay the bet. Any idea as to why this happens? I'm pretty new to this :)
I am very very newcomer to this channel. Is it a Geekstoy you are using?
Yes. He owns the company.
No, I don't. I use the software, I do not own any part of Geeks Toy. A customer too :)
@@CaanBerryProTrader Sorry mate. I was lead to believe you had a connection.
Hi Caan. Great vid. I wonder if I missed you clarify what your stop loss would have been had the market went against you?
Think he intimated that a £6.25 loss would be where to call it a day. You could lose 5 of those trades and still be £19 up. You need to have discipline to do that and not chase a bet in the same market, it can go in-play and you end up gambling where you had no intention of doing so.
This is correct.
Great vid, are you able to do a vid where the opposite happens and you have to limit losses? Cheers.
Prevention is always better than cure when it comes to trading although will look at dealing with losses and get one done at some point no problem. Thanks for letting us know what is interesting!
@@CaanBerryProTrader Thanks so much for the reply.
Ironic that they actually got battered so the public sentiment was wrong yet again
View and sentiment is one thing, reality is another. The former is more reliable to trade as people are predictable at times. Results less so.
what worries me sometimes is if you have say £500 pound you dnt want to risk all, on a trade ready to cashout on price movement but then website goes down I think I have seen other vid on this what do you do in this instance
Yep there is always a risk of crash
Im just doing demo mode at moment I like greyhounds I know volitile market but I think quite good trying that as once going to horses/football easier with it being less volatile to get your prices matched - in demo mode are your prices matched easier than real money or exactly the same im using geeks toy
Do you think strongly tipped teams can cause profitable movements? Also, how important the weight of money you think is in this case? I think leaving a position open for hours to take some ticks might be interesting, but keeping an eye in the information flowing prior to the off seems a bit stressful
Media influence and the crowds impression can be a very important thing yes. In some instances you find masses of people will bet a certain outcome regardless of the current price. Tipping is a funny one though, depends on the source. If we're talking one of the top football pundits going on a rant 30 mins before the match on prime TV, it could made an impact. Is that how you meant? Weight of 'matched' money is always important.
@@CaanBerryProTrader thanks for the view, Caan, asking for the WOM since in horse racing I find it only useful for a scalp and thought a different dimension was given to it when it comes to football. Will be looking forward for chances in pre-match trading, thanks a lot for the example in the video, cheers!
Sir I am in India.
Who account opening process send me details..
I need urgent how it possible
What should I do about the new account
Well done
Great Value ! Thanks...
Not bad, considering it's free haha!
Complete beginner here can you give me tip best markets in games I bet over x goals in games I tried it on netfair just exact same as normal betting sight looking for more ways than this thanks mate you look gifted on this stuff.
Another great and interesting video
Happy days, happy times! :D
How do you decide when to cash out?
I could create a seprate video about this as it's just as important as entry. The exit wasn't perfect on this one to be honest.
Man you’re so smart. I wish I could do this
You can! It's not impossible...
How do I join trading football match
Just use an exchange mate.
Hi caan , please some videos on cricket also
if it goes against you why not simply place another trade in the opposite way and follow the same process?
You could trade in either direction yes. Have I understood your question correctly?
@@CaanBerryProTrader Yes, thanks for your reply. I was also wondering if there was any way to scalp the correct score before KO since the value per tick on those odds are bigger?
should have put more money on cash out more 49 going quick everything expensive
This is true. Sometimes trades are bigger/smaller. Thought I'd do this one as its a clean example.
Can i use this trick in sportsbook?
You can cash-out, but you should really learn the difference between the two models. If you were using a sportsbook you would have had a tiny slither of the same result as they rip you off on the initial odds and the cash-out price. Trading exchanges that operate at almost 100% overround brings far better results.
All that before Villa got walloped 0-3!
I'd imagine it stung a little.
On sky bet , football bets cash out always stay negative up until and after kick off so this strategy won't work on there
SkyBet dont allow winners. They are a sportsbook.
thats a lot of capital for 49 pounds. not sure i want to put up that kind of risk when i could put it on low risk stocks make 20% and be paid a 3-7% dividend while i wait hmmm
It wasn't at risk, the movement was the only money at risk. If it moved the same the other way I would have risked the 49
Surely you're just "gambling" that the odds will shorten?
No, there was a reason for the move, it wasn't a guess :)
what is the software you use for trading ?
John Shores That was GeekToy, you can get a 14 day trial on their website or can buy the annual license for £60
It's called Geeks toy...you can get a free trial too if your a new subscriber. To set the software up settings wise Caan has got videos on his channel
Geeks Toy it's mentioned in the video. Best one if not wanting to automate
Sure, its geeks toy. There's a review link in the video description.
@@CaanBerryProTrader thanks being a leeds fan i was watching the video but not really listerning i shall rewatch it though
Sir how do I trade betting
I always watch your video but you haven't made any videos on cricket ,
Correct, we don't have any. Sorry about that! :)
Do you trade football a lot? Do you ever use BOTs
Yes, bots aren't a thing for me unfortunately.
Barcelona Real Madrid under 3.5 tomorrow
I think its a scam I lost all my money on betting
Yes mate buh I want to make business with u
lots of people do but time is limited
Your videos would look much sharper if you recorded at 60fps
Noted, cheers.
Access to good information is what we investors needs to progress financially and generally in life. here's a good one and I am grateful.
Mrs Jane is legit and her mathod works like magic i keep on earning every single week with her new strategy
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I put 50 quid on Aston Villa to win the Premiership at 70 to one , I think they will do it
You are just here to promote Betfair...
Are you joking? I can't stand them and their excessive charges for winners, see this - ruclips.net/video/Wt12U3twHLY/видео.html
@@CaanBerryProTrader I say this because when you lay a bet you win nothing even if lay bet win.. that what I don't understand.
@@CaanBerryProTrader so what happens when you lay a bet & win??? How much do you get for example if you say the odds were 4.50??
hahahahah
Leeds fan? haha
@@CaanBerryProTrader no no it had nothing to do with the game / and we dont have Betfair here..... It was just funny