5 Details You MISSED in The Chosen Season Four Episode 3: Moon to Blood!
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- The most surprising episode The Chosen has EVER done, "Moon to Blood" is here... so here's some details you might have missed...
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What did you think of this INSANE episode? Are you okay with the big twist? Let me know down below! 👇
At the beginning I was very sad 😢 but then I realized that it was written in the book 📕 from our heavenly father the day of our death and Jesus was doing the resurrections according with the instructions of the Father, well this is very complex and complicated to talk about it 🙏🙏🙏♥️
Yea....some of the details in this last violent scene, seem rather rushed. Yes, in the midst of chaos, chaos happens. Shock and disbelief will freeze a person sometimes ( Thomas). But yea....as much as i love and appreciate the writing of this show...not sure about the construction of this scene...I wonder what Jerry Jenkins thought about it? Hmmm
Episode 3 highlighted much of the creative liberty of The Chosen writers. However, it would seem that the ending would be traumatizing and significant enough to make its way into the actual Gospels. Introducing Rama to the story was most likely a way for explain the doubting nature of Thomas after Christ's resurrection. From another perspective, Thomas may not have been more of a doubter than the rest of the disciples...but more a person who is bold to speak what everyone is thinking. Out of all the trauma the followers had experienced, the death of Christ seemed to overshadow anything else they had experienced in their lives up to that point.
It was excellent from beginning to end! This episode is a major turning point with three more years to go. What makes you think we all missed the points you raised?
At first, when I left the theater, I didn't care for the scene, for it left people talking about something that was extra Biblical. But I can see why they done it, as I am sure this will cause Thomas to be even more doubtful and cynical as he wrestles with why Jesus did not heal Ramah. My daughter-in-law who was only 27 passed away from cancer a couple of years ago, leaving my son heartbroken and stricken with grief. We prayed and prayed for healing, but God chose to heal her in a different way. These struggles are something we all will deal with at some point in our lives, and it's good to see the show tackle these hard issues.
Absolutely agree. I don't like it, but it absolutely applies to real life.
Excellent summary.Im so sorry your son and yourself lost somebody like that. It’s never easy but you’re right, God has his reasons.
They executed this SO well. I love that they cut the music at the end and we hear the pain in Thomas’ weeping ;(
Joey (I think that's his name) did such a good job there. His anguish was so convincing and realistic!
Episode 3 was spectacular! The writers meticulously plan every little detail. Thank you for your insights, Eli! The Chosen is the best show around.
I knew, unfortunately that Ramah was to die but I didn't expect that it was to happen in this episode. The raw emotion of Thomas resonate with many if us, because we all lost love ones. I did. It is beautifully done. I can't wait to see what episode 4 will be. A real blessing. Thank God for His story the story of Jesus, His Son.
I still can't believe we won't see lovely Rahma again.
Episode 3 was outstanding! That ending broke me. I sat there staring at my screen for a few good moments. But besides Ramah's unexpected murder, this episode had me cheering in so many spots. I'm so excited for the rest of the season.
Can you imagine if everyone lived and no one died? I’ve had to accept the fact that my best friend/sister died when she was 32 in a car accident. Never got a chance to say goodbye. I’ve watched my father die of cancer. Then my husband died of cancer at 55. I took care of them both. I did Hospice with my special-needs brother for two weeks in the hospital. I was with him almost constantly. I took care of my mother when she was dying two years ago. It was brutal, but with my mother, we prayed that she would pass on and be out of her misery and her pain. She was 95. I know loss. I know it very well. But not everyone can keep on living. It hurts to lose someone you love. I know that very well. But not no one can survive and live forever on this earth Jesus will come back to get us all, and we will be reunited. That is what I live for.
Have not heard anyone mention that it was Thomas who led her straight into the situation….then stood there in shock. I kinda had a hard time with that. Anyone else think that?
Hindsight is 20/20.
That has bothered me tremendously! If he had just left her where she was safe with Mary! I do really love that when her father approached them, Thomas said he would deal with him. Then, Yeshua spoke up and told Thomas He Would go with him! That's our Savior and Redeemer!😊
Just as long as Quintus didn’t murder the dog (in the beginning of the episode)! 😱😂. But seriously, this was a great “tool,” as you said, to show the audience that God is sovereign, even in this face of tragedy.
Oh I was so afraid he was going to kill the dog.
Was that Matthew's dog???
😂🤣
It sure looked like Matthews dog
Yeah, it was Matthew's dog. Sadly the real dog, Pepper, did pass away a few days ago, though. 😔
Excellent! So many characters affected by the end of #3. EPISODE 4 is an emotional extension . ❤
The previous episode, Jesus declared He came with a sword to create division. And He specifically pointed to Ranah and her father. Ramah dying by sword will ultimately create more division, especially with the Romans. Then there are the season 5 sneak peeks of Ramah's father gathering an anti Jesus posse. So, Ramah dying by sword goes back to Jesus' words.
Whoa!! Great insight! Thank you for sharing this!
that's deep
I expect some ad-libbing in the movie. All biblical movies do it. It causes the scenes to be understood more clearly.
Excellent episode with many different storylines and wonderful performances. Bookending Bathsheba grief with Thomas’s is masterful. I’ve lost a little one and though this was painful, I’m glad they’re tackling these things.
Love these breakdowns already!! Thank you Eli for doing these!
I love when the intro from B.C is just as good as the main part of the episode.
yes! I love it when they relate it to the OT.
The way you use apt words to describe the episodes has improved significantly. Keep it up! All glory to God 🔥
I'm just glad I knew about it happening before I watched the episode! Even anticipating it, I bawled.
Oh I have to say I appreciate you linking scripture verses where they apply in the episode, I pray you continue to do so. Thank you I totally enjoyed your commentary and of course I love The Chosen. Lord please help us all to be focused on your Word and not the TV story only.
It is not just a woman who dies, but also the plans and hopes for a shared future and a family of Ramah and Thomas. A very bitter fate.
This episode has the Bible moments I feel like extremely overshadowed by the ending but I watched episode 4 in my DVD I pre-ordered and that was the opposite the Biblical moments were amazing in that one and I'm excited for people to see that episode
James & John had a normal Jewish Mom…..at least the ones I know…..liked the scene.😊
I just came across your channel and subscribed. Well thought out and good depth into the episode.I had picked up most of the 5 but not the sundial meaning, so thanks. I wasn't expecting the death but see now how it ties into all of our lives as we face tragedy.
Yes, initially a shock at the ending. However, I had been wondering about Rama since there is no mention in the scripture. But, this sets up a plausible reason for a «douting" Thomas in future episodes.
I like this guy! I like hearing his thoughts! 😊
I had not understand about the sundial - great observation!
The sign of Jonah isn't what you think it might be. Intrigued? Me too I can't wait to see how Dallas handles that.
ps As your self appointed comment grandmother I'm telling you to comb your hair 😀
Love Dallas explaining the why her story was added and you help add insight to the reasons the show is parallel to scripture and ties It all together. The word is perfect and we are not, so why expect the show’s disappointment to some when ultimate it is all grace we are saved..only Jesus!
Did not expect for Ramah to die.
Love all this episode. ❤
Love 💕 the way you comments very well explain ❤🙏
Jesus told Thomas He would show him a new way of seeing time when He called him. I suppose eternity focused is a radical shift in perspective for Thomas. But sad 😢
I love this insight wow!
And Thomas in the Bible doubt about Jesus’s resurrection until he touch his wounds
I was definitely one who was turned off by the ending of episode 3 I was at the theater I decided not to go to see the next series so I'm happy to hear both the commentaries from Dallas and you to try to explain why they thought it was necessary to do this
Well said!!
So beautiful this The Chosen❤️✋️🙏✋️🙏⚘️
A really good interpretation? Well done.
Totally agree!
Thanks for bringing up scripture
Thank you
Thank you so much. I like the way you’re explained when Jesus said it was not her time . Now I’m understood. Sorry my English writing and speaking are not good. I’m from Québec 👌🥰
Thanks Eli,
These extra-Biblical stories might not be an accurate telling of scripture, but they do carry a truth. Each time we get a new one, there are any number of responses from viewers who can identify with it, it has all happened to someone at some time. There are always those who feel seen because their own story is in there somewhere.
I'm beginning to wonder about the David flashbacks we keep seeing. We've had a series of these and I'm starting to wonder if this will follow through to Solomon / First Temple or something similar.
If i saw a sword-wielding angry roman why would i even pass near him??
Halfway through vid I've not heard one of the 5 things we missed
When we born we have a life book 📕 and it says when we will die
When Rhema died, Thomas asked Jesus to bring her back from the dead, and Jesus said, I can't bring her back a third time." that is such a confusing scene. he's God he can do whatever he wants
Good point about having real consequences, and they couldn’t really kill off one of the Biblical characters. I’m starting to see the genius in this storyline more every day.
Overall it has been one of the best episodes with a lot of scriptural reference , the only part that didn't sit well with me is the fact that the blind man didn't wash off at the well but in a bucket. Most people are not comfortable with the death of Rema but i think since the bible doesn't mention Thomas as a married man its okay and definitely something could have caused thomas to doubt . so the death of Rema is the birth of doubting thomans
King David's son died as was foretold to him by God as a punishment for going after Bathsheba when she was married to Samuel. King David assigns Samuel to the front lines of war so that he would die in battle + make Batheheba a widow + thus available to him.
They are all being tested….jealousy …and Ramah’s death
I like your t-shirt
I agree.
2 comments on this episode: 1. I am surprised Quintos stabbed Ramah instead of Gaius. 2. I don"t like the pride and jealousy of Salamai. ( But in the show it is very effective and she is a good actress).
Hey, Eli, what are your thoughts on the name of the episode? It's kinda confusing to me lol
It was heart breaking! That's all I can say 😢
Well done Eli your speaking is much slower I can now fully follow your great insights
While a sweet story, I didn't foresee how this would set up Thomas's story line for future seasons. It was a great story add.
G'day, Eli! Why is this episode titled "Moon to Blood"?
Its just ok....Was never a big fan of the Thomas/ Raman story line- felt like they could of done more biblical scenes than this fictitious storyline. Yes lessons can be drawn/learned from it . But would prefer more biblical scenes!!!!
Agreed! It is straying too much focus away from Jesus and onto drama not present or implied in scripture. What new things are they going add leading in the crucifix? It just rubs wrong for seasoned Christians.
@@skysetblue9578I disagree as a believer of 30 years
Interesting.
You should have seen the chat it just blew up big time when Ramah met her untimely end 😬🥶🤔
The last scene was actually kinda lame. So Thomas is trying to get Ramah to safety by taking her toward the danger, bumping the guy holding a massive sword then stares at her for what seems like forever. I know a lot of people cried and found it moving while I was scratching my head in confusion. It honestly looks(and I know that's not the case) like it was planned. As in Thomas wanted to take her out by leading her directly to the danger like a horror film. We've love the episodes so far but that last scene seems like it was not thought out at all.
"Hey.... there's a crazy guy over there swinging his sword at people. I think we should walk toward him and bump him so we can make him mad"🤦♀️. He doesn't react at all until she's gone. It was so weird!!
I was thinking the same thing.....while Rema could have been killed in that scene, having Thomas walk right by a raging Roman, in the midst of a chaotic scene, seems to lack foresight, even as I did not think he wanted her killed. There had to be a better way to orchestrate that scene than walking right by Quintus...especially when so much of the writing and acting has been so well done.
Some very good points....yea....maybe could've used some tweaking....lol....unless...Dallas just wanted some extra controversy
@@donnawatson845Somethin! 🤔. I just felt it was poorly done considering how the man's talent.
@@paulconeff4850 It's like getting your kid out of the street due to oncoming cars but as soon as one of those cars is close enough you push that kid in front of that car then tell someone to fix it🤷♀️. I tell ya... It's the twilight zone😅
@@StompMom5 True...and the irony is that they have great writers - and they could have had Thomas lead her in another direction in the context of a situation where he still goes crazy and kills her in his rage...and instead, they chose the most illogical path possible.
I think it is the reality of life and it makes it more realistic. The impact that Jesus have on people, whether they choose good or bad..
Jesus said, "I came to bring a sword."
somebody needs to tell me why its called moon to blood😭ik the fiest ep was promises for Gods promise to john the secons was confession for mathews repentance but what does moon to blood mean
This is a good point, I'm not sure why it's called this, maybe referring Quitus to being like a wolf maybe, moon to blood
In verse 14 God tells David the child will surely die, and He tells him exactly why the child will die. David's sin with Bathsheba doomed their child; mankind has free will and God will not interfere with that. He allows what we allow, but no one wants to face that; it's easier to just blame God.
I will say you have a great imagination dear one. But supposing and conjecture is often frowned upon when discussing the Bible stories so keeping that in mind , I really love that you share your thoughts and your faith with us. To answer your question , this is a tv depiction of the story of Jesus: Is it 100% accurate ,no. But I was not turned off by the episode. I love the whole series , I started watching when it was an alert to download the app on my phone. If you really want to know the Bible , then read it. It’s the greatest story ever told❤️
It might come out later in some way, but it was clear to me that Thomas/Rama were on their own journey and had drawn their attention away from what should have been their First Love. Eyes on Jesus, and you don't get lost!
Why would Thomas walk with her right past Dominus? That was really a stupid move. I mean he just walked so close to the guy with a sword, and even bumped him! That seemed a bit contrived.
John 10:11-13 reads “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep."
This scene at the end of episode 3 makes Jesus look more like the "hired hand", abandoning the sheep and running away... especially because the ones left behind included Mary & Ramah. To use another analogy, when a ship is sinking, the captain makes sure the women and children get into the lifeboats first. It is only a cowardly captain that would be first into a lifeboat.
Thomas went back into the mob to at least try to help Ramah to safety. That should have been Jesus.
Who is rabbi Yosef’s father?
I like the inclusion of this. Are we gonna get the answer to why James and John have been at each other’s throats for two seasons?
I think the endless question as to why God allows suffering goes all the way back to Adam & Eve and their mistake.
In my opinion killing Ramah was a very bad decision. She is a fictional character yes, but there is no moment recorded in scripture where Jesus was present when someone died and did nothing. It is not within His character. John 8:9-10: 9 This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: “I have not lost one of those you gave me.”
10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.)
We read in other accounts that Jesus then healed the servant's ear. So in 2 verses we have 2 reasons why Jesus would have healed Ramah: 1) None of Jesus' followers died during His ministry. He actively protected them. 2) If Jesus stopped to heal the man who had his ear cut off whilst He was being arrested, what reason would He have for allowing Ramah to expire?
Yes, Jesus and God the Father promise us in this world we will have trouble. But Jesus healed the blind, he healed Peter's mother on the edge of death, He healed the Centurion's servant, and Jairus' deceased daughter and Lazarus, and there is no reason to believe He would not have healed Ramah.
So here we have a strange response from Jesus that is uncorroborated by scripture, and this was not the moment to take liberties with the gospels. It's fine to imagine extra conversations, little disputes between apostles, but it is not ok to invent characters, kill them off and make believe that Jesus witnessed and allowed such events.
Thank you so much for your excellent and biblical response. I am very glad to see that someone else finds serious fault with a storyline that is in direct opposition to God's Word. Yes, it is fine to add "extra" conversations and events that align with the Gospels. But when you add something that opposes God's Truth, you are taking biblical liberties that you have no right to take, as well as promoting false teaching about who Jesus is and what he did. I appreciate that your response includes scriptural support and draws attention to the TRUE nature of Jesus. It saddens me to say, but after this episode I can no longer support The Chosen or recommend it to anyone.
This! That you you put right what I was thinking. Why in the world the writers think Thomas would be angry and be doubtful cause of JESUS? Sad sad hasty writing there. Troubled that christian people supporting this all the way aren’t discerning this. They will add more later.
I completely agree with your opinion. I think Dallas wanted to highlight the issue of unjust suffering, including among believers, and the crises associated with it. This is a very important and touching topic. However, I would find it more appropriate and biblical if he had included a story without making Jesus Christ appear to be the one who refused to help.
@@isabelleskiss Exactly! This show will cover the disciples after Jesus' ascension. Why not cut back to Jesus' words about suffering for His name as a flashback as Paul or Peter prepare for their martyrdom and meditate on why God allows suffering? It is important to remind ourselves that in this world we will have trouble, but this was not the way to do it.
Jesus did name John and James -sons of Thunder before Simone became Peter.
Yes, but that was less of a title of honor and more a rebuke concerning their tempers.
A day to the Lord is as a thousand years. 😉
Jesus Christ is the only salvation and protection of the universe Amen! Lord bless the entire team and their families so abundantly Amen!
I think I disagree with most comments. The purpose of a bad scene is Hollywood's way to shock us, they enjoy that, they live for that, to shock our senses. The Chosen writers planned a way to shock us because they are wanting to be "Hollywood". Success is going to their heads. The killing was not needed anymore than most movies using the F word.
I think Ramah's death has much to do with QUINTAS and his story line.
What were the "details" I "missed"?
Only explanation for this episode was it was written and directed by men who were not filled with the Holy Spirit and their interpretations were wrong.
We know tht Peter was the only apostle who was married. Something had to happen to Ramah; a change of heart, her father stepping in; something. The Chosen chose to have her killed in a way that is emotionally jarring, but very reasonable, given the overal plot of God's Word.
Whenever I listen to you in your introduction bit , I always wonder just why you say you have the biggest channel about the Chosen. You have good things to show and say about it, but I don’t know how you can say you’re the biggest. The Chosen Sleuth is way bigger and he certainly also digs very deep. Not to slam you at all, just that sentence that I hear every time. But keep up the good work…
I have a podcast separate from my channel where I talk about The Chosen that’s the biggest podcast about the show. Might be a little confusing, but I never claim to have the biggest RUclips channel. Brandon from The Chosen Sleuth is awesome and I love his stuff… would never impede on his phenomenal work.
@@AgainstTheCurrentPodcast thanks for the explanation.
Chosen Sleuth is not a podcast. Anyone can ask Brandon directly.
She could be resurrected with other saints right after Jesus's resurrection. I'm hoping they do this but I imagine they won't. (Mathew 27: 53) 😊🤞🏻
Chosen fan here however Season 4 has been a disappointment so far. I am not sure what has happened but it seems off.
To associate the death of David's child as at God's hand is to say God inflicted death to Ramah. I do not think so. Ramah died because of a human action of anger not God's will.
Can you comb your hair
Dude, hair
I personally would prefer less extrabiblical characters and storylines. I love the characterization of the disciples-how they have such personality.
Remember Jesus said in reply to him, "it is not yet her time", Everyone is forgetting what happened the day that Jesus died. Matthew 27, after Jesus died there are people who rose from the tombs. Matthew 27:50-53 I think she will be one of them who will rise after Jesus dies.
Didn't Jesus give them the name sons of thunder
IMHO, this fictitious last scene is an insult to Christ’s doctrine and character. It is not Christ’s doctrine or character to contend with anger, incite a riot, and lead his beloved disciples to slaughter. 3 Nephi 11 v29-30, Psalm 23, John 10 v11, Isaiah 9 v6. Truth!
29 For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.
30 Behold, this is not my doctrine, to stir up the hearts of men with anger, one against another; but this is my doctrine, that such things should be done away.
Having said that, in general, I’m a huge fan of The Chosen and have loved many depictions of our Savior in The Chosen! Most members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are fans of the chosen because they know, and they are deeply committed to the importance of making Christ known to the nations. That is why so many members serve two year missions and try to live Jesus Christ’s gospel and show the love of Jesus all their lives.
2 Nephi v8 Wherefore, how great the importance to make these things known unto the inhabitants of the earth, that they may know that there is no flesh that can dwell in the presence of God, save it be through the merits, and mercy, and grace of the Holy Messiah, who layeth down his life according to the flesh, and taketh it again by the power of the Spirit, that he may bring to pass the resurrection of the dead, being the first that should rise.
Good to see that someone else noted this portrayal of Jesus as inconsistent with his character given to us in scripture. You referenced John 10:11. Including the following 2 verses (12 and 13), it reads: “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep."
This scene at the end of episode 3 makes Jesus look more like the "hired hand", abandoning the sheep and running away... especially because the ones left behind included Mary & Ramah. To use another analogy, when a ship is sinking, the captain makes sure the women and children get into the lifeboats first. It is only a cowardly captain that would be first into a lifeboat.
I did not feel that I learned anything new - just a re-telling.
Disagree that God inflicted David's child. This is a story of early believers seeing God as wrathful as pagan gods were envisioned. Our heavenly parent is only love; however makes use of unfortunate incidents to teach or make good.
It was Not cool.
It is an interesting show but doesn't follow the Bible or tradition. The quirks are many but it is entertaining. It was made for people with limited exposure to the Bible, tradition, and the writings of the Church fathers. It also gives a less-than-authentic view of how Roman bureaucracy worked.
I don't understand what Jesus said about Jonah. ?
Jonah was in the fish for three days
Some theologians believe that he died and was dead and came back to life when he was vomited out.
In Nineveh the people believe in a fish-like idol and now a messenger (Jonah) comes who has overcome the fish and death.
Jesus was in the grave for three days and has overcome the devil and death.
(This could be an explanation)
@@fredymader1750 ty so much! I'm going to rewatch it. That helps.
Jonah preached to gentile pagans and they repented without even knowing the name of the Lord and yet Jesus says the Jews, God's chosen people can not even recognize their own God standing in front of them preaching to them to repent. They are worse than their enemies, the people they hate. They will therefore be judged harshly for their lack of faith and lack of repentance.
@@perfectpeace00 thank you for helping me to understand!
Sorry 🥴😳🤣 I can listen but I can’t watch.
OPINIONS WELCOME ...To bring up such a horrible question of why does God allow pain and innocence to perish without giving an answer to me is spiritual abuse.
PEOPLE... REALISE JESUS CHOSE THE 12 AS APOSTLES NOT DISCIPLES ... PLEASE STOP USING THIS AS TRUTH..
yeah its a tv show but calling the 12 disciples is not correct... we are disciples following christ but their title is not ours..
I'm done with the chosen. I've been a loyal fan although I have taken some things with a grain of salt. Now the grains of non biblical things have turned into a salt pile. This episode was the last one for me. The Jesus I love would not have just looked at Thomas and merely said I'm sorry. He would have taken him in His arms. They portrayed Simon as having more compassion than Jesus
It wasn't the fact that she died, it was how they portrayed Jesus added to many Un biblical things ive noticed such as Matthew helping Jesus "write" His message. Do you honestly think Jesus needed help??? When you play with the bible like they are doing...twisting things to make it likeable.... I'm done . I couldn't sleep at all that night because of how they portrayed Jesus as mouthing I'm sorry but just standing there looking at Thomas...He has always comforted me when I am in distress. This show has been subtle but we have sat and been fed subtle untruths in the name of entertainment. I know alot won't like what I've said but I don't care . There is one truth and that is the bible and they have slowly been feeding us lies mixed with truth.
Amen sister. I’ve been done with the chosen for about a year. So, I agree with you.
Not Ok with their decision re: Ramah. It didn't happen. No offense, but why should I trust you? I disagree that it was "a good thing". I think it was a critical error and has cost (at least my) faith in their ability to accurately portray the events of the Bible. We already know that God allows suffering. I think that's been made very clear in the last few years, no? THis was an unnecessary trauma to the actress and the audience who are already traumatized by the goings on of the real world. How about just sticking to the Word? Dallas, your opinion doesn't matter. Sorry, but it's true. Not a word would be added or taken away. Frankly, I feel that The Chosen team needs our prayers for having offended God in this episode. And all Jesus can say is "Sorry." ? Really? A terrible decision. I have really lost interest in the show. Bad move.