Hatte mal vor 15 Jahren ca. eine Marshall 412 mit den Dingern. Klang im Raum mit einem 5105 ganz gut (fand ich damals) aber nur mit GANZ speziellen Einstellungen.
I’ve seen people speculate that on From Mars to Sirius by Gojira, they used a Marshall 1960 cab with G12T-75s and that album sounds larger than life as a whole. I’d like to know people’s opinions on whether they think it’s true.
I was totally cursed when I was having my first experiences with the G12T75. I was looking for my first real tube head... and because of the G12T75 I thought that all the new marshalls of that time (JCM2000s) would suck. I hated it. Found out later that every store where I went paired it with the standard 1960. Quite a few years later I tried the DSL50 through a greenback cab and that made me realise how huge the differences between speakers/cabs are! Love the DSLs now and I'm quite sure I'll get one at some point. It's standard cab is just the worst possible combination imo. :D PS: Love grandma's guest appearance!
that’s because the modern g12t-75’s are completely different than the 80’s variant, which is super sought out for. Kurt Cobain was also known for using 80’s 12T-75’s during the nevermind tour, they’re pretty great sounding speakers for live performances because they saturate really well at high volumes.
The early vented magnet G12T-75 speakers were just G12-65 speakers albeit with a kapton voice coil instead of a fiberglass voice coil. It was Celestion's approach to enhancing the G12-65 for high-gain usage. Due to that difference in voice coil, they sounded brighter and more mid-scooped than the G12-65. Rest assured, they were good-sounding speakers, and they sounded nothing like these crappy new G12T75 speakers. If you want a modern alternative to those old vented magnet G12T75 speakers get yourself the WGS ET65 speakers. They are accidental clones of the old vented magnet G12T75. What WGS tried to do with the ET65 was to make a speaker that will be an enhanced take on the G12-65. However, while doing so due to some strange coincidence they ended up doing the exact things that Celestion did while making the original vented magnet G12T75 speakers. They too just cloned the G12-65 and put a kapton voice coil in it, effectively re-creating the old vented magnet G12T75.
@@TheNocturnalEvilwhat you say rings true to alot of trial and error and dialing in an 80s thrash tone on the et65, was using the standard celestion creambacks untill I put an et65 in a katana and was blown away by the raw thrashy tight tones I could get, really screamed kill em all and slayer, now all my speakers in my cabs and setups are all wgs et 65, such a kick ass speaker for 80s metal.
The irony behind the fact that Kohle used to hate T75s but his tone on them is just about better than every speaker he’s tried on this channel. Listen to how defined and firm the low strings sound-His V30 tones are never that precise and firm on the bottom Anyways, it’s fair that one may not like recording with T75s, but they sure as hell are one of the speakers for live playing. They have a really fun “play” about them because they respond very fast and have a lot of snap. they can open up the top-end on a dark, compressed amp and make sure the low end doesn’t get mushy
i do exactly the same, my live cab has 2x75 and 2x ashdown speakers (though i plan on changing the ashdown ones to either dv-77 or v30's or something along that line) and my recording cab has 2xv30's
I actually like those speakers more than the V-30. It’s fuller sounding. Just EQ your amp differently. Turn the lows down, etc. I have a very bright Marshall,, and V-30s are harsh sounding.
thats why marshall chose the 75s during that era , to tame bright mid focused amps . one of my fav tones is a gt75 2x12 with a jvm . they fit perfectly
I read the title... I hear you say the damn 75 destroyed your producer childhood... I remember my own beginnings...Tears are in my eyes... I start typing a comment: "I love your videos so much... You are like the anti-Glenn Fricker...", and then he appears in front of me to haunt me again... God must really fucking hate ma and he's laughing his ass off right now. BTW, I love the sounds you got out of the 75.
I don't know, to me the T75 in this instance actually sounds a lot more evil and ominous, like a the undead crawling out of a swamp (like you said) whereas the V30 almost has an upbeat, cheerful character. Like Dimebag is about to jump out playing a bouncy pogo dance rhythm, when the T75 is like a woeful black metal siren call from a distant icy mountain of doom. Don't get me wrong, the T75 sounds bad, but maybe in a good way?
i mean it definitely isn't the best, but... I feel like you could turn up the treble and mids slightly on the amp, or use a multiband EQ. just to compensate idk.
@@loeffel999. Eh, only because the 75 was loaded in billions of JCM800 cabs. It’s the sound of the 80’s. Honestly I prefer the Vintage 30 over any celestion speaker, even the greenbacks. The mid punch is better.
I ADORE G12 T-75s. They sound weird in contrast to other more “conventional” speakers, but I think they really smooth out certain amps, 5150s in particular. The 5150 in combination with the V30 has too much damn midrange and a T75 puts a kind of smiley face eq curve on it which makes it more playable IMO. They sound kind of crappy on their own, but can add a great flavor in a mix. Especially amongst a sea of V30s which fucking everyone uses.
That's the thing, we should never forget that the G12T-75 was made for overly middy amps. A more linear or scooped amp can't make it sound good so easily.
@@riangarianga They are beautiful for replacing the horn-sounding Eminence speakers in a Music Man amp. Completely change the character by taming the insane midrange profile.
I'm running an early signature 5150 through a 1960A cab with UK made stock G12T-75s. It sounds like what I would imagine the gates of heaven opening sounds like.
Agree. After Long search and countless hours testing, i went with slanted Warp7 Cabinet loaded with 4 old school and used G12T75 , for my 5150. I never came back. I love My T75's.
I've got G12T-75's in a Marshall Bi-Chorus 200 combo. I've had that amp for about 17 years. It sounds great on things I use it for and I don't have the problems you describe with low end loading because the Marshall has an open back. Those speakers shine in that amp. Worked for Prong. And Glen's bit was hilarious.
Well, the everlasting reign of terror is finally over, people are opening their minds accepting there are other speakers out there that might even sound better than the V30, or at least sound different, which is something we really need after 30+ years of V30 , let's be creative people! Plus remember cabs/speakers/IRs are 80% of your guitar tones, so let's just try to sound "fresh"! GG Khole!
I thought i was the only one who doesnt like the V30, also not a fan of the 75. I do like the Eminence Swamp thang and Celestion creamback 65. (edit) The g12evh are awesome, the only faithful repro of the classic greenback and far superior to the made in china greenbacks.
@@drew5400 it's not that I don't like V30s, they sound good in their way, but they're not the only speakers ever made, even though the last 30 years of metal recordings apparently disagree... that's the only issue I got with them, I'm just tired of hearing the same guitar tones over and over, 5150 + mesa oversized cab + 57s....I think we can do better nowadays, and Kohle here's making a point on that :)
Excellent vid. Have used the famous “75s” in most of my cabs for my 30 years of playing. Sounds great to me. Works best in open back cabs IMO. Depends a lot of what you put in front of it I guess.
I have a Marshall 212 with the Seventy-80s and I hate them. They seem really bright and just not very defined. Do they sound better after a break in period? They’re a few months old currently.
@@MJPGuitar how many hours have you put into them? In total amount of hours, should be several days of playing to break them in. If you’ve played for not long at all, like, maybe six hours total over the span of two weeks, they’re gonna sound like that
@@MJPGuitar yeah, definitely keep breaking into it. All speakers sound like crap when first starting out, but afterwards, maybe like a couple days worth, it’ll sound awesome
Actually i really like how a G12-T75 sounds in the room and on many recording but its a pain in the ass to mic speaker. I never managed to mic one to my liking myself :D But when they are well recorded i really like them...i mean come on just think about - Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness for example...or Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World.
Stock I find the t75 sounds pretty good blended with something mid forward like a v30, It extends the low and high end and darkens up the sound in a kind of pleasant way
You are very creative for improving that speakers tone. Right now I have to deal with using a smashed iphone to record, and I'm slowly learning every tonal flaw that it has. I'll be an amazing engineer by the time I get a mic.
I almost agree with you with the 75 being "weird" for recording. But for live, they're the BEST!!! I love the 1960 Marshall cabs for playing live. I've never heard myself so clearly on stage, until I played through these speakers. I can be pretty quiet, not annoy the soundguy, and yet still hear myself crystal clear. The first time i played through a mesa v30 cab live in a 500 capacity venue, i couldn't hear myself at all. I even got an offer for a cab with the t75s way beyond the real value of the cab in the same venue. I also really like them when i do sound in smaller rooms. Outside, i miss the bite of the brighter speakers, but inside, in a small room, i can perfectly control the amount of high end, so that the vocals stay bright, and crystal clear above the mix. The t75 is the best rehearsal room/live speaker period. Else they wouldnt've made so many of them.
This. I've been a gb and v30 guy all life, but hell, when you are in a guitar duo and play heavy music, you just can't hear yourself if the other guy plays a t75 loaded cab, especially if his amp is a bright one. V30s are great, direct, articulate and tight, but dealing with t75s is a nightmare. And don't have me talk about classic leads.
@@vanespedals1023 You should easily find someone for a trade. v30 x G12T75 is a popular combo and cabs mostly come with only one type of speaker. I did this too.
I did as well. I think the V30s are probably good at cutting through a mix (or whatever the phrase is) but they sound super thin, brittle and harsh to my ears. (listening through a crown power amp and a nice little pair of Wharfdales. Nothing fancy but not my iphone either)
I also hated that speaker for most of my guitar life (16 years) but now I like it! I use it in a Marshall 4x12 1960B cab: 2 V30 speakers + 2 G12T-75 speakers in X-pattern. That combination is so great!
The good tone is because the socks man. Now, seriously this video series is the only way that i have for learning all about the different speaker models. Great video! 🍻
My dear God, the 75 ruined my life! I had these speakers in my 1960A for more than 10 years. until I got my other two cabs with Greenbacks and V30’s and heard the bells finally coming. I never wanna play 75’s again in my life.
Back in the day we had a G12T-75 loaded Marshall 1960A cab in the rehearsal room that I had the bad fortune to use. For years I struggled with a good tone that could also be heard in the full mix. I just didn't understand it. Then one day at a gig, I had the opportunity to use a V30 loaded Orange PPC412 and HOLY SHIT did everything suddenly make sense to me. That was the day I learned cabs matter. I don't think I ever plugged into the Marshall cab again.
Funny how it was the other way around with me. :D I had a PPC412 with V30 that I didn't like at all. Only after I got a 1960B with G12T75 a was happy with my tone. Guess it's all a matter of taste.
@@kennethjolley Depends on the settings of the head and the TYPE of head used. I use an EVH 5150 Iconic head with a Marshall 1960A cab loaded with G12T-75'S and the rig sounds killer.
75s are great. classic 80s/90s tones. scooped mid range is awesome . less mids . more gain . Florida Death Metal for ever . getting tired of these impulse response fake amp fake drum nu metal trash . everything sounds exactly the same.
I don’t hate this. But the amp and PU will have a minimal effect on what I’m showing in the video. I could have used any amp and any guitar. At least if you are going for a high gain guitar tone.
@@KohleAudioKult Your last sentence covered my point.. Exactly that, not every amp/speaker/pickup is made for high gain, but they can sound good in other settings. Cheers!
@@KohleAudioKult What about making a video using an EVH 5150 Iconic head thru those speakers? I have a Marshall 2011 1960A cab, and I use the Iconic head at the full 80 watts, and the sound is killer !!!
It's kinda interesting how people right now are trying really hard to get Death's guitar tone with all the valvestate inspired gear coming out. Yet everyone still professes to hate T75s. Literally every record by Death was recorded with them. Every record by bolt thrower was recorded with them. I mean EVERY one. Every single album. I have to agree of course that V30s are much easier to record. If I was the person actually doing the recording of bands, I can see why the T75 is a nemesis of sorts.
When I was 16 my father bought me the Marshall VS100 and matching 4x12 cabs. Still have that stack to this day amongst tons of other acquired stuff. I also own an 8100 Valvestate Head and 2 Valvestate combos. The VS100 stack.......That head sounds terrible on any other cab besides the valvestate cabs however, I have used a few heads that sound beast af on those cabs. My Mesa single recto absolutely slays! So tight and focused and tames the boominess of the Mesa down. From someone who owns 2 4x12 cabs with those speakers and 2 combo's.......I absolutely contribute my signature sound to them and love them. I did an experiment and took the eminence legends out of my Vader 4x12 and put in the gt12t-75's and it is incredible with any head I put on it. The legends to me are just harsh and too barky sounding.
I kinda like the original sound myself, to be honest, but I can't express how great these videos are. I've learned so much from watching your speaker videos, so for this I thank you.
worst speaker of all time ? haha, that´s why all these metal bands use this speaker, at least live, where I have seen them use a Marshall 1960 Lead A or B: Obituary, Hatebreed, Dying fetus, Dr. Living dead, Power trip, Suicidial Angels, Terror, Tankard, Gruesome, DRI, Morgoth, ..... and Metallica are said to have used it in the studio for the recording of Master of puppets .(there are endless discussions what gear Metallica have used on their first LPs, but with the gear for Master most "experts" are quite sure) all these bands mentioned are old school thrash and Death metal bands, that is my taste of music, many bands use E or D - Standard. (Hatebreed and Dying fetus are lower). maybe you like a different metal style (lower tunings) , where other speakers are better. I know many local thrash bands, and nearly every one of them uses a Marshall 1960 A cab. (they all play in E-Standard) the slanted A cab is one the most sold 4x12 cabs in the world. (thomann says it is even the most sold) when I compare in a shop the 1960 Lead A and the 1960 AV cab, the Lead wins way ahead. the V30 has too many mids and sounds much thinner. I do not like the speaker in a B cab, there it sounds too dark, no mids, even a little bit boxy, here I agree. but in a slanted cab it has a different tone, even better mids than the V30 version. maybe you have played this speaker in a B cab, then I agree with you. maybe you use lower tunings, then even the slanted A cab might not the speaker for that sound. But for old school thrash and Death metal in E (D-) Standard, it is the right speaker.
Not all Marshalls are loaded with 75s, and not all 75s are the same. Metallica used 65s. 75s are ESPECIALLY terrible for E standard thrash, at least in my experience.
I agree. These speakers are perfect for thrash and those old school 80’s metal. You don’t even have to dial in your tone they just already have that awesome frequency dialed in already. I play drop c with darker amps and it cleans up very well with these speakers.
For the G12-T75s they aren't like a Vintage vs Greenback which is mostly down to personal taste, G12s are a different beast and you have to tweak the amp to accommodate for it and they can sound very good when done right.
Congrats, you got really great tones in the end. Seems really tough to record well. But I actually like my g12t75 for practicing (in a slightly oversized 1x12 open back) as it gives a bigger sound than other Celestions with more manageable highs at moderate volume. But when I tried to record it, it sounded really bad (probably also due to my lack of skills in recording cabs...). So for me it is a great live speaker but a difficult one to record..
I haven’t played these speakers in years. And my taste as surely changed since I was in a metal band playing through a Marshall 1960B loaded with g12t-75s. However, I always liked how they sounded. They seemed to remove some mids, so I always had my mids higher than most metal dudes. I also found that pulling my main crunch overdrive to just enough to hit pinch harmonics, and then cranking the volume into the sweet spot where the cab and speakers sounded like they opened up, but not quite loud enough to get muddy-the speakers worked for me. I think. And of course, that was just to my ears and in rehearsal.
I kinda dig the fuzzy "chomp" of the T75. Maybe if it in a combination with a middy speaker like the G12H75 Greenback, it would be a nice thick, White Zombie-like groove metal tone.
use both. G12-T75 for effects and panned reverb. Or use G12-T75 during verses and V30 during choruses. Relying on 1 speaker for all sounds is not necessary. You got 2 or 4 speakers in a cab. use them. For panned double tracking try both.
Early Meshuggah with their best tone was t75, Nevermore - DHIADW, Nightwish - Century Child, Exodus early 00s tone and etc. English made t75 such an awesome speaker, but chinese one... oof. Great Video, sir!
@@phantomflame0658 oh yea and famous Peter's Tagtegren tone from Hypocrisy and Abyss studio ( whole mainstream EU black metal scene since 90s till now ) is t75s afaik. To be honest by far best metal speaker.
There are many many speakers and cab configurations that I personally would never buy due to lack of cash, but have a great tonal character in their own way IMO.I bought my first set of Celestions 10yrs ago. 4 G12T-75s and rebuilt my year 2000 homemade 4×12 into a hodge podge of solid maple sides and 7ply birch front/back. I've owned probably more than a dozen amps, played maybe a hundred more through it, and I have never not been able to at least dial in a tone I could live with on each and every amplifier that's pushed it's output transformers&valves through. The Lynchback, G12 EVH, and Classic Lead 80 are the only others I can say the same for. If you're after one and only one particular tone in such a focused area of frequencies, along with a similar gain structure throughout, you're always going to think the V-30 is the holy grail of guitar cabs. I'll retain my personal opinion of that speaker to myself, just keep in mind that there's one trick ponies, that (no disrespect) do their tricks about as good as it gets.. and there's guitar drivers capable of covering a broad enough part of the spectrum, they fit just fine the parameters of ever changing and evolving tastes, and tonal prefrences.
I always loved the old G12T-75s for 80's style thrash rhythm tones, especially with a Marshall amp. But I honestly could never find a use for them when I switched back to a more bluesy rock style, and so I moved onto Vintage 30's first, before finally finding my favourite place with 70's Greenback and Blackback tones.
Fantastic. I assume that Andy Sneap did something similar for Nevermore's "Dead Heart in a Dead World". He said that they used a rectified with a Marshall 1960 cab with G12T-75 and two SM57 microphones.
"There`s the speaker I hate the most so I did some impulses for you!" Now that`s the attitude lol On a serious note though I want that impulse! But I`m never lucky
The first thing i thought when i heard the first part was that does not sound like a g12t-75 it does not have that upper mid character especially recorded, the phase thing made it make alot of sense .
I thought my RUclips subscriptions had melted when my thumbnail preview was showing Glenn instead of Kohle. 😆 Looking forward to your IR pack. You already have my soul. 🔥
Dunno why but somehow I feel happy for you man :D even tho g12t75 is one of my favourite speakers (I have one which sounds a lot better than yours, I was actually really surprised how dark sounding the original tone was). And as always, great sound, what you got from that beast ;)
By themselves I’ve never liked em much. But at the same time I don’t care much for straight V30 loaded(Mesa version anyways) either. But somethin magical happened when I mixed those two together. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Hey Kristian, I love your channel and have learned a ton from you. I did have an observation on this video in particular though. I noticed when you're adjusting phase on your microphones you're basically just using a line delay? I thought that phase is a combination of frequency and time; the frequencies you pickup change based on where the microphone is placed because different wavelengths travel at different speeds, so that has to be accounted for. If you delay a signal so that some peaks are matching, other frequencies will be out of phase. As the microphone moves around the vibrations hit it at very slightly different times, and that's why half an inch can be a huge difference in tone. It's the phase relationship between the different frequencies all competing as they come out of the speaker. If you just delay the track you're not able to manipulate that. Like matching two tracks up by moving one will only make it so that the peak that you matched with the other track is perfectly in phase, everything else is still off by some margin. Now everything will always be a little off, you can't get two totally different mics completely in phase, you can't even get two of the same mic perfectly in phase, but you can get closer using your ears and actually manipulating the microphones. One of my favorite things to do here is try to target high frequencies that I find undesirable and get it to phase out just using the mic placement. Unless you're already extremely close to being where you want, I find that actually moving the mic around while listening produces far superior result to delaying a track until they line up.
I’m doing both. I’m moving mics and I’m delaying mics. It’s a combination of both techniques. And in the end it’s all about listening carefully and having a sonic vision. Not every technically “correct” combination also sounds great.
Question? Could you do a pickup comparison? With the new Adam Jones guitar he flipped the neck pickup. What happens when you flip pickups? Are we just stuck in a comfort zone where we have the pickups faced with the screw pieces away? I hope i am making sense
Great video! Yeah, the 75 is more dark and less clear compared to the V30. Maybe a treble/mid boost on the amp would be more fair for direct comparison, but there's no doubt that the V30 is just such a great speaker for recording! So much agree with you, but my two cents defending the 75'er is in live situations where many amps with V30's or other aggresive speakers can be too ear piercing. As a live sound engineer in small venues, the best way to achieve good guitar tone is to become friends with the guitarists, so you can turn down the treble/presence knobs on their amps. Many PA speakers are also very sensitive in the 2k-4k range with their horn tweeters, where the mic'd up 75'er will sound better than a more aggresive speaker. I personly like the Eminence V12, which is balanced, more mellow than the V30, but still alot clearer than the 75 for recording :)
ME? An Epiphone Single cut straight into a Orange Dark Terror, into a pair of Celestion G12T-75's. My pedals are now collecting dust. And I don't get spending $25,000 on equipment to "tweak" a speaker! If you look around enough, you can find a STOCK speaker that does the tone you need.
I have a pair of G12s in a 4x12 cab with the bottom two mounts left open. I love them! They roll the fizz and brittleness off of certain amps and give a really solid punchy sound. I don't care for V30s at all. They're so thin and fizzy sounding in most applications I have to roll off the treble and presence just so they don't pierce holes in me.
Why go through all that trouble. If it don't work for you try something else. The 75s were made to go with JCM 900 amps. They sound good with those amps which have a very bright and mid focused tone....hence why the 75 sounds they way it does.
You beat me to it! They're application specific and there's a reason they came in Marshall cabs. They also sound good with those modded Marshall plexi's everybody wanted back in the day That had a pronounced barking midrange.
i got 2 from a marshall MG soild state piece of Crap amp i got for 50 bucks on ebay, the amp would quit playing as a bad break in the solder board has a fan that puts out at least 5 watts...pile of Junk, I fixed my tube fender amp back up with a JBL d131 and Never looked at a Marshall again
What's your G12T-75 experience? Are you cursed too?
Hatte mal vor 15 Jahren ca. eine Marshall 412 mit den Dingern. Klang im Raum mit einem 5105 ganz gut (fand ich damals) aber nur mit GANZ speziellen Einstellungen.
Trash. V30 💪💪💪🍕💳💳❤️
I’ve seen people speculate that on From Mars to Sirius by Gojira, they used a Marshall 1960 cab with G12T-75s and that album sounds larger than life as a whole. I’d like to know people’s opinions on whether they think it’s true.
I had an old JCM800 cab with old ones, it sounded pretty good.
I was totally cursed when I was having my first experiences with the G12T75. I was looking for my first real tube head... and because of the G12T75 I thought that all the new marshalls of that time (JCM2000s) would suck. I hated it. Found out later that every store where I went paired it with the standard 1960. Quite a few years later I tried the DSL50 through a greenback cab and that made me realise how huge the differences between speakers/cabs are! Love the DSLs now and I'm quite sure I'll get one at some point. It's standard cab is just the worst possible combination imo. :D
PS: Love grandma's guest appearance!
"Someone playing guitar in the swamp next door" - So, the G12T-75 being the official SHREK speaker: confirmed
The original "Swamp Thang"? Heh hehe!
If I'm not mistaken the g12t-75 was used on some of the early metallica albums. And that's some of the most iconic guitar tones ever.
Slayer also used them a bunch
that’s because the modern g12t-75’s are completely different than the 80’s variant, which is super sought out for. Kurt Cobain was also known for using 80’s 12T-75’s during the nevermind tour, they’re pretty great sounding speakers for live performances because they saturate really well at high volumes.
From what I heard they used G12-65s.
The early vented magnet G12T-75 speakers were just G12-65 speakers albeit with a kapton voice coil instead of a fiberglass voice coil. It was Celestion's approach to enhancing the G12-65 for high-gain usage.
Due to that difference in voice coil, they sounded brighter and more mid-scooped than the G12-65. Rest assured, they were good-sounding speakers, and they sounded nothing like these crappy new G12T75 speakers.
If you want a modern alternative to those old vented magnet G12T75 speakers get yourself the WGS ET65 speakers. They are accidental clones of the old vented magnet G12T75.
What WGS tried to do with the ET65 was to make a speaker that will be an enhanced take on the G12-65. However, while doing so due to some strange coincidence they ended up doing the exact things that Celestion did while making the original vented magnet G12T75 speakers. They too just cloned the G12-65 and put a kapton voice coil in it, effectively re-creating the old vented magnet G12T75.
@@TheNocturnalEvilwhat you say rings true to alot of trial and error and dialing in an 80s thrash tone on the et65, was using the standard celestion creambacks untill I put an et65 in a katana and was blown away by the raw thrashy tight tones I could get, really screamed kill em all and slayer, now all my speakers in my cabs and setups are all wgs et 65, such a kick ass speaker for 80s metal.
The irony behind the fact that Kohle used to hate T75s but his tone on them is just about better than every speaker he’s tried on this channel. Listen to how defined and firm the low strings sound-His V30 tones are never that precise and firm on the bottom
Anyways, it’s fair that one may not like recording with T75s, but they sure as hell are one of the speakers for live playing. They have a really fun “play” about them because they respond very fast and have a lot of snap. they can open up the top-end on a dark, compressed amp and make sure the low end doesn’t get mushy
The hate on T75 is internet bandwagon. Those are great speakers. They are especially good for M style amps.
And in the next episode of "Pointless Sound Engineer Challenges", Kohle will get a usable metal sound from a Mesa Cab Clone.
I'd pay to see that..lol
Haha!
You can use custom IR in the updated cab clone ;-)
@spectresoundstudios GLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!
I personally like the 75 a lot. You can always turn your mids/treble up on your amp. 75 for practice/pleasure V30 for recording!
i do exactly the same, my live cab has 2x75 and 2x ashdown speakers (though i plan on changing the ashdown ones to either dv-77 or v30's or something along that line) and my recording cab has 2xv30's
I actually like those speakers more than the V-30. It’s fuller sounding.
Just EQ your amp differently. Turn the lows down, etc.
I have a very bright Marshall,, and V-30s are harsh sounding.
thats why marshall chose the 75s during that era , to tame bright mid focused amps . one of my fav tones is a gt75 2x12 with a jvm . they fit perfectly
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@@AlistairMaxwell77 yes, my jvm sounds amazing through the 1960 b I recently bought. My peavey 5150 sounds great through it as well
I read the title... I hear you say the damn 75 destroyed your producer childhood... I remember my own beginnings...Tears are in my eyes... I start typing a comment: "I love your videos so much... You are like the anti-Glenn Fricker...", and then he appears in front of me to haunt me again... God must really fucking hate ma and he's laughing his ass off right now.
BTW, I love the sounds you got out of the 75.
Haha! Sorry for that!
But it’s good to have Glenn ready in case something needs to be smashed! 🤪
I don't know, to me the T75 in this instance actually sounds a lot more evil and ominous, like a the undead crawling out of a swamp (like you said) whereas the V30 almost has an upbeat, cheerful character. Like Dimebag is about to jump out playing a bouncy pogo dance rhythm, when the T75 is like a woeful black metal siren call from a distant icy mountain of doom.
Don't get me wrong, the T75 sounds bad, but maybe in a good way?
There's always something beautiful to find even in the most dark and ugly places.
I agree this can be the right tone, but it's very niche.
@@KohleAudioKult When I was a kid, I used to play guitar through a casette-radio with a knife stabbed speaker. That was a niche sound too.
Never found a better speaker for rehearsing in metal band situation. I don't know maybe it's just my ears though!
It’s a better live than miked!
@@KohleAudioKult I've miked it up in gigs many times and it delivered but I guess in recording it's a different world all together.
I had a Valvestate with that speaker and it sucked...
Well, at least at my ears...
Thrash'n'beer from Portugal 🍺🤘
@@portuguesebeer5069 well everyone has different ears. I also own a 8240 combo and love it. It's up to taste as everything is eventually.
@@KOSTAS84
Yes! Nothing bad in having different oppinions!
Cheers my friend 🍺🍺
*sees title* Flemming Rasmussen would like to know your location.
We've already met!
I like the G12T-75 in a Marshall Cab combined with the Vintage 30. This isn't a bad speaker 😁👍
i mean it definitely isn't the best, but... I feel like you could turn up the treble and mids slightly on the amp, or use a multiband EQ. just to compensate idk.
That's exactly how you do it.
This is stupid. If your tone is a fuzzed out cheese grater lowered by an octave, then what are you complaining about?
The 75 is a great speaker.
He's not even tuned that low lol
Wtf. Fanboys...
Found the angry boomer. Go play your grandpa guitars
@@toddclorox2855. Genx’r here. You dern whippersnapper.
Now get off my lawn and slow down. Lol.
@@loeffel999. Eh, only because the 75 was loaded in billions of JCM800 cabs. It’s the sound of the 80’s.
Honestly I prefer the Vintage 30 over any celestion speaker, even the greenbacks. The mid punch is better.
I ADORE G12 T-75s. They sound weird in contrast to other more “conventional” speakers, but I think they really smooth out certain amps, 5150s in particular.
The 5150 in combination with the V30 has too much damn midrange and a T75 puts a kind of smiley face eq curve on it which makes it more playable IMO.
They sound kind of crappy on their own, but can add a great flavor in a mix. Especially amongst a sea of V30s which fucking everyone uses.
That's the thing, we should never forget that the G12T-75 was made for overly middy amps. A more linear or scooped amp can't make it sound good so easily.
@@riangarianga They are beautiful for replacing the horn-sounding Eminence speakers in a Music Man amp. Completely change the character by taming the insane midrange profile.
Probably the same reason why I like my 75s with my VH100R
I'm running an early signature 5150 through a 1960A cab with UK made stock G12T-75s. It sounds like what I would imagine the gates of heaven opening sounds like.
Agree. After Long search and countless hours testing, i went with slanted Warp7 Cabinet loaded with 4 old school and used G12T75 , for my 5150. I never came back. I love My T75's.
I think the G12T-75 is meant to be a workhorse. Live shows and loudness.
But yeah that sticker label is pretty lame
I've got G12T-75's in a Marshall Bi-Chorus 200 combo. I've had that amp for about 17 years. It sounds great on things I use it for and I don't have the problems you describe with low end loading because the Marshall has an open back. Those speakers shine in that amp. Worked for Prong. And Glen's bit was hilarious.
As someone that lives in the swamp, all speakers sound like they being played through the swamp next door to my neighbors.
😂😜
Well, the everlasting reign of terror is finally over, people are opening their minds accepting there are other speakers out there that might even sound better than the V30, or at least sound different, which is something we really need after 30+ years of V30 , let's be creative people! Plus remember cabs/speakers/IRs are 80% of your guitar tones, so let's just try to sound "fresh"! GG Khole!
I thought i was the only one who doesnt like the V30, also not a fan of the 75. I do like the Eminence Swamp thang and Celestion creamback 65. (edit) The g12evh are awesome, the only faithful repro of the classic greenback and far superior to the made in china greenbacks.
@@drew5400 it's not that I don't like V30s, they sound good in their way, but they're not the only speakers ever made, even though the last 30 years of metal recordings apparently disagree... that's the only issue I got with them, I'm just tired of hearing the same guitar tones over and over, 5150 + mesa oversized cab + 57s....I think we can do better nowadays, and Kohle here's making a point on that :)
I hate the V30, at least as a stand alone speaker.
Celestion Classic Lead 80
Excellent vid. Have used the famous “75s” in most of my cabs for my 30 years of playing. Sounds great to me. Works best in open back cabs IMO. Depends a lot of what you put in front of it I guess.
The Celestion G12T-75 is actually one of my favorite speakers, along with the Celestion Seventy-80
I have a Marshall 212 with the Seventy-80s and I hate them. They seem really bright and just not very defined. Do they sound better after a break in period? They’re a few months old currently.
@@MJPGuitar how many hours have you put into them? In total amount of hours, should be several days of playing to break them in. If you’ve played for not long at all, like, maybe six hours total over the span of two weeks, they’re gonna sound like that
Please tell me how you get them to sound good? I have a Marshall 2x12 with the 70/80s in it and I can’t find a good tone out of them.
@@tsbdgaming69s96 in total they have maybe 3 hours into them.
@@MJPGuitar yeah, definitely keep breaking into it. All speakers sound like crap when first starting out, but afterwards, maybe like a couple days worth, it’ll sound awesome
Actually i really like how a G12-T75 sounds in the room and on many recording but its a pain in the ass to mic speaker. I never managed to mic one to my liking myself :D
But when they are well recorded i really like them...i mean come on just think about - Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness for example...or Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World.
I think the v30 would pair well with the T75.
They do
He had a video with that pairing, watched it today
They do they do 🤘
@@felinekaiju4517 Can you link it? Can't find it.
@@Qban220 I'll see if I can find it.
Stock I find the t75 sounds pretty good blended with something mid forward like a v30, It extends the low and high end and darkens up the sound in a kind of pleasant way
10:05 Holy shit there's a ghost in the back window!
I was surprised too!
That‘s Glenn Fricker waving outside to get let back in.
It’s a tree branch
I think it's the ghost of a plant swaying in the wind
Sorry Kristian, you got it wrong. The worst celestion is the 70/80 sounds like a can full of bees
Agreed ! I'll take this over a 70/80 any day.
Damn! Really?
So, it gets worse?
Funny, I have one in my Tech 21 Trademark 60 and that thing sounds killer. I wouldn’t change it. Maybe it just suits that particular amp
@@rustyfuzz470 maybe its custom voiced?
You are very creative for improving that speakers tone.
Right now I have to deal with using a smashed iphone to record, and I'm slowly learning every tonal flaw that it has. I'll be an amazing engineer by the time I get a mic.
I almost agree with you with the 75 being "weird" for recording. But for live, they're the BEST!!! I love the 1960 Marshall cabs for playing live. I've never heard myself so clearly on stage, until I played through these speakers. I can be pretty quiet, not annoy the soundguy, and yet still hear myself crystal clear. The first time i played through a mesa v30 cab live in a 500 capacity venue, i couldn't hear myself at all. I even got an offer for a cab with the t75s way beyond the real value of the cab in the same venue. I also really like them when i do sound in smaller rooms. Outside, i miss the bite of the brighter speakers, but inside, in a small room, i can perfectly control the amount of high end, so that the vocals stay bright, and crystal clear above the mix. The t75 is the best rehearsal room/live speaker period. Else they wouldnt've made so many of them.
Many people say, those speakers are great live. At least that means they have their place!
This. I've been a gb and v30 guy all life, but hell, when you are in a guitar duo and play heavy music, you just can't hear yourself if the other guy plays a t75 loaded cab, especially if his amp is a bright one. V30s are great, direct, articulate and tight, but dealing with t75s is a nightmare. And don't have me talk about classic leads.
HAHAHAHA I CAN'T BELIVE HE ACTUALLY DID IT
I mix 2 v30’s and 2 t75’s in a Marshall cab and dig the sound :)
I want to do the same in my Engl v30 pro 4x12 - you should get a nice dynamic pallet of tones combining those 2 speakers in X pattern
@@vanespedals1023 You should easily find someone for a trade. v30 x G12T75 is a popular combo and cabs mostly come with only one type of speaker. I did this too.
Excellent combo for metal tonz 🤘🤘
I have two WGS Veteran 30s and along with two T75s in my 1960: I love it.
Glenn's appearance on the video made my day!
I hate to say this but I prefer the original sound 😅 whatever floats your boat.
it's a mixed bag for me -- I've gotten both good and bad results on
different occasions
I did as well. I think the V30s are probably good at cutting through a mix (or whatever the phrase is) but they sound super thin, brittle and harsh to my ears. (listening through a crown power amp and a nice little pair of Wharfdales. Nothing fancy but not my iphone either)
"Big German Weenie" I fucking lost it XD Gotta love Glenn!
I also hated that speaker for most of my guitar life (16 years) but now I like it!
I use it in a Marshall 4x12 1960B cab: 2 V30 speakers + 2 G12T-75 speakers in X-pattern.
That combination is so great!
I have to try that
The original vented white label 75s from the mid 80s ( if you can find them) are excellent. They sounded nothing like the ones from the 90s!
Yup...I was told they were just relabeled G-65's with more power handling.
@@wakjob961 would explain why the ones in my jcm800 cab sound so different from modern 1960b cabs. the date code on the speakers is from 1983.
The good tone is because the socks man. Now, seriously this video series is the only way that i have for learning all about the different speaker models. Great video! 🍻
I would die to spend just a day at your studio. Dam, I feel like I would learn so much about getting great tone and good beer XD
My dear God, the 75 ruined my life! I had these speakers in my 1960A for more than 10 years. until I got my other two cabs with Greenbacks and V30’s and heard the bells finally coming. I never wanna play 75’s again in my life.
Back in the day we had a G12T-75 loaded Marshall 1960A cab in the rehearsal room that I had the bad fortune to use. For years I struggled with a good tone that could also be heard in the full mix. I just didn't understand it. Then one day at a gig, I had the opportunity to use a V30 loaded Orange PPC412 and HOLY SHIT did everything suddenly make sense to me. That was the day I learned cabs matter. I don't think I ever plugged into the Marshall cab again.
Funny how it was the other way around with me. :D I had a PPC412 with V30 that I didn't like at all. Only after I got a 1960B with G12T75 a was happy with my tone. Guess it's all a matter of taste.
WHat kind of music do you play?
@@EndHelicopterPilot WHat kind of music do you play?
@@kennethjolley Depends on the settings of the head and the TYPE of head used. I use an EVH 5150 Iconic head with a Marshall 1960A cab loaded with G12T-75'S and the rig sounds killer.
75s are great. classic 80s/90s tones. scooped mid range is awesome . less mids . more gain . Florida Death Metal for ever . getting tired of these impulse response fake amp fake drum nu metal trash . everything sounds exactly the same.
Same.
I like the celestion g12t75's. Just need to right amp with it ect
I'm sure Kohle will hate this, but ANY Celestion can sound good with the right amp and pickup combo, that's the main reason they make such a variety.
I don’t hate this. But the amp and PU will have a minimal effect on what I’m showing in the video. I could have used any amp and any guitar.
At least if you are going for a high gain guitar tone.
@@KohleAudioKult Your last sentence covered my point.. Exactly that, not every amp/speaker/pickup is made for high gain, but they can sound good in other settings. Cheers!
@@KohleAudioKult What about making a video using an EVH 5150 Iconic head thru those speakers? I have a Marshall 2011 1960A cab, and I use the Iconic head at the full 80 watts, and the sound is killer !!!
It's kinda interesting how people right now are trying really hard to get Death's guitar tone with all the valvestate inspired gear coming out. Yet everyone still professes to hate T75s.
Literally every record by Death was recorded with them. Every record by bolt thrower was recorded with them. I mean EVERY one. Every single album.
I have to agree of course that V30s are much easier to record. If I was the person actually doing the recording of bands, I can see why the T75 is a nemesis of sorts.
When I was 16 my father bought me the Marshall VS100 and matching 4x12 cabs. Still have that stack to this day amongst tons of other acquired stuff. I also own an 8100 Valvestate Head and 2 Valvestate combos. The VS100 stack.......That head sounds terrible on any other cab besides the valvestate cabs however, I have used a few heads that sound beast af on those cabs. My Mesa single recto absolutely slays! So tight and focused and tames the boominess of the Mesa down. From someone who owns 2 4x12 cabs with those speakers and 2 combo's.......I absolutely contribute my signature sound to them and love them. I did an experiment and took the eminence legends out of my Vader 4x12 and put in the gt12t-75's and it is incredible with any head I put on it. The legends to me are just harsh and too barky sounding.
I kinda like the original sound myself, to be honest, but I can't express how great these videos are. I've learned so much from watching your speaker videos, so for this I thank you.
worst speaker of all time ?
haha, that´s why all these metal bands use this speaker, at least live, where I have seen
them use a Marshall 1960 Lead A or B:
Obituary, Hatebreed, Dying fetus, Dr. Living dead, Power trip, Suicidial Angels, Terror,
Tankard, Gruesome, DRI, Morgoth, .....
and Metallica are said to have used it in the studio for the recording of Master of puppets .(there are endless discussions what gear Metallica have used on their first LPs, but with the gear for Master most "experts" are quite sure)
all these bands mentioned are old school thrash and Death metal bands, that is my taste of music, many bands use E or D - Standard. (Hatebreed and Dying fetus are lower).
maybe you like a different metal style (lower tunings) , where other speakers are better.
I know many local thrash bands, and nearly every one of them uses a Marshall 1960 A cab.
(they all play in E-Standard)
the slanted A cab is one the most sold 4x12 cabs in the world. (thomann says it is even the most sold)
when I compare in a shop the 1960 Lead A and the 1960 AV cab, the Lead wins way ahead.
the V30 has too many mids and sounds much thinner.
I do not like the speaker in a B cab, there it sounds too dark, no mids, even a little bit boxy, here I agree.
but in a slanted cab it has a different tone, even better mids than the V30 version.
maybe you have played this speaker in a B cab, then I agree with you.
maybe you use lower tunings, then even the slanted A cab might not the speaker for that sound.
But for old school thrash and Death metal in E (D-) Standard, it is the right speaker.
Not all Marshalls are loaded with 75s, and not all 75s are the same. Metallica used 65s. 75s are ESPECIALLY terrible for E standard thrash, at least in my experience.
Some of those bands are hardcore
I agree. These speakers are perfect for thrash and those old school 80’s metal. You don’t even have to dial in your tone they just already have that awesome frequency dialed in already. I play drop c with darker amps and it cleans up very well with these speakers.
Are all Germans mad scientists?
Although, I quite like the 75, maybe I'm the mad one?
For the G12-T75s they aren't like a Vintage vs Greenback which is mostly down to personal taste, G12s are a different beast and you have to tweak the amp to accommodate for it and they can sound very good when done right.
Yup.....I use an EVH 5150 Iconic head with a Marshal 1960A cab with 75's. Sounds beastly.
Funny, i hate those odd high mids of the vintage 30... sounds like "useless noisy frequency" to my ears...😅
I wonder if they sound good with both in a cab
I have been using 1960A and 1960B all my life, yes they fuzzy sound and very glassy but I love it .
this is funny, this is great, splendid work
Congrats, you got really great tones in the end. Seems really tough to record well. But I actually like my g12t75 for practicing (in a slightly oversized 1x12 open back) as it gives a bigger sound than other Celestions with more manageable highs at moderate volume. But when I tried to record it, it sounded really bad (probably also due to my lack of skills in recording cabs...). So for me it is a great live speaker but a difficult one to record..
The T75 is the Ride the Lightning sound.
They used a 65 though. Other thrash bands used the T75 so you can play metallica with it
Likely the speaker in the '300 watt kabinets' used on Puppetz 👍🤘
The sentimental piano while he was talking to the gt75 made me laugh out loud
Great video. I could watch/listen to speaker videos all day!!!
I haven’t played these speakers in years. And my taste as surely changed since I was in a metal band playing through a Marshall 1960B loaded with g12t-75s. However, I always liked how they sounded. They seemed to remove some mids, so I always had my mids higher than most metal dudes. I also found that pulling my main crunch overdrive to just enough to hit pinch harmonics, and then cranking the volume into the sweet spot where the cab and speakers sounded like they opened up, but not quite loud enough to get muddy-the speakers worked for me. I think. And of course, that was just to my ears and in rehearsal.
I kinda dig the fuzzy "chomp" of the T75.
Maybe if it in a combination with a middy speaker like the G12H75 Greenback, it would be a nice thick, White Zombie-like groove metal tone.
Awesome video. This has become my favorite production channel! Prost!
Welcome! ❤️🍺
Dude kohle this is the BEST tone I’ve heard you get to be honest..... not trolling I love how full it is
What, these speakers are the key component in malmsteen tone from the 80s...that tone was awesome
To me these G12T-75 have their space in the speakers landscape. No point ditching them, mixing them in a cab sounds like a good idea.
use both. G12-T75 for effects and panned reverb. Or use G12-T75 during verses and V30 during choruses. Relying on 1 speaker for all sounds is not necessary. You got 2 or 4 speakers in a cab. use them. For panned double tracking try both.
Early Meshuggah with their best tone was t75, Nevermore - DHIADW, Nightwish - Century Child, Exodus early 00s tone and etc. English made t75 such an awesome speaker, but chinese one... oof. Great Video, sir!
Also metallica i think the 75 was used on MOP and AJFA
@@gabihakler868 also statovarius/ children of bodom and a lot more.
@@ScrewDJ_McDuckyeah, i just ordered a pair of white lable 1987 t75s hope they sound good
The smashing pumpkins used them too on siamese dream and others
@@phantomflame0658 oh yea and famous Peter's Tagtegren tone from Hypocrisy and Abyss studio ( whole mainstream EU black metal scene since 90s till now ) is t75s afaik. To be honest by far best metal speaker.
There are many many speakers and cab configurations that I personally would never buy due to lack of cash, but have a great tonal character in their own way IMO.I bought my first set of Celestions 10yrs ago. 4 G12T-75s and rebuilt my year 2000 homemade 4×12 into a hodge podge of solid maple sides and 7ply birch front/back. I've owned probably more than a dozen amps, played maybe a hundred more through it, and I have never not been able to at least dial in a tone I could live with on each and every amplifier that's pushed it's output transformers&valves through. The Lynchback, G12 EVH, and Classic Lead 80 are the only others I can say the same for. If you're after one and only one particular tone in such a focused area of frequencies, along with a similar gain structure throughout, you're always going to think the V-30 is the holy grail of guitar cabs. I'll retain my personal opinion of that speaker to myself, just keep in mind that there's one trick ponies, that (no disrespect) do their tricks about as good as it gets.. and there's guitar drivers capable of covering a broad enough part of the spectrum, they fit just fine the parameters of ever changing and evolving tastes, and tonal prefrences.
I always loved the old G12T-75s for 80's style thrash rhythm tones, especially with a Marshall amp. But I honestly could never find a use for them when I switched back to a more bluesy rock style, and so I moved onto Vintage 30's first, before finally finding my favourite place with 70's Greenback and Blackback tones.
Fantastic. I assume that Andy Sneap did something similar for Nevermore's "Dead Heart in a Dead World". He said that they used a rectified with a Marshall 1960 cab with G12T-75 and two SM57 microphones.
a 4x12 with g12t-75 and green back would sound cool. Greenbacks for the low end, and g12t-75 for the high.
I did this to my Marshall 1960a. its amazing now. sounds a lot less "directional" and now sounds more "open/clear".
I don’t know, I did a V30 and 75 in a cross cross in my 4 x 12 and sounds pretty gnarly.
Yup
For me, one of the best speaker from Celestion ever made!🎸😎
"There`s the speaker I hate the most so I did some impulses for you!"
Now that`s the attitude lol
On a serious note though I want that impulse! But I`m never lucky
My favorite comment so far!
It's like this:
Once you have conquered your worst enemy, you wanna grill it and eat it with your friends.
@@KohleAudioKult glad you like it! Did I deserve to get the impulse out of turn? jk lol
@@KohleAudioKult sun zhu xD
I always figured this speaker would sound best using an MD-409. Maybe the e906 would sound cool?
G12T-75 Celestions are awesome. They are a great all around rock speaker.
Very nice crossover between Kristian and Glenn
They're perfectly fine speakers.
As long as you don’t mic them 😂
This is crazy that you dropped this video cause I've had this cab setup for years with the 75's in a mesa cab and its my favorite cab.
Phase cancellation is a Bob Rock technique. Well done.
The first thing i thought when i heard the first part was that does not sound like a g12t-75 it does not have that upper mid character especially recorded, the phase thing made it make alot of sense .
I thought my RUclips subscriptions had melted when my thumbnail preview was showing Glenn instead of Kohle. 😆
Looking forward to your IR pack. You already have my soul. 🔥
Dunno why but somehow I feel happy for you man :D even tho g12t75 is one of my favourite speakers (I have one which sounds a lot better than yours, I was actually really surprised how dark sounding the original tone was). And as always, great sound, what you got from that beast ;)
By themselves I’ve never liked em much. But at the same time I don’t care much for straight V30 loaded(Mesa version anyways) either.
But somethin magical happened when I mixed those two together. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
4:05 I think it sounds brilliant though. But your comments are very insightful! Love every video, man!
10:06 HEY WAIT A MINUTE
WTF IS GOING ON ON THE WINDOW BEHIND YOU 😂
I wonder if Boss Metal Zone was designed to nail that T-75 sound. I totally get MZ vibe when i hear that speaker.
Oh yeah right. That used to be the dream-team back then in Scoopland!
@@KohleAudioKult MZ pedal is a$$ LOL
Used to use V30s and 75s in an X configuration and I always loved it
Hey Kristian, I love your channel and have learned a ton from you. I did have an observation on this video in particular though.
I noticed when you're adjusting phase on your microphones you're basically just using a line delay? I thought that phase is a combination of frequency and time; the frequencies you pickup change based on where the microphone is placed because different wavelengths travel at different speeds, so that has to be accounted for. If you delay a signal so that some peaks are matching, other frequencies will be out of phase. As the microphone moves around the vibrations hit it at very slightly different times, and that's why half an inch can be a huge difference in tone. It's the phase relationship between the different frequencies all competing as they come out of the speaker. If you just delay the track you're not able to manipulate that. Like matching two tracks up by moving one will only make it so that the peak that you matched with the other track is perfectly in phase, everything else is still off by some margin. Now everything will always be a little off, you can't get two totally different mics completely in phase, you can't even get two of the same mic perfectly in phase, but you can get closer using your ears and actually manipulating the microphones. One of my favorite things to do here is try to target high frequencies that I find undesirable and get it to phase out just using the mic placement. Unless you're already extremely close to being where you want, I find that actually moving the mic around while listening produces far superior result to delaying a track until they line up.
I’m doing both. I’m moving mics and I’m delaying mics. It’s a combination of both techniques.
And in the end it’s all about listening carefully and having a sonic vision. Not every technically “correct” combination also sounds great.
My favorite speaker by far. Been used on some incredible recordings.
I do enjoy the recorded 75 for lead playing, cuts well in a mix while still sounding smooth, it gives you that instant 80's guitar shredder vibe.
Loves this.. So much work to make a silly speaker work. Hopefully I can sell mine now.
Haha! Fair enough
Question? Could you do a pickup comparison? With the new Adam Jones guitar he flipped the neck pickup. What happens when you flip pickups? Are we just stuck in a comfort zone where we have the pickups faced with the screw pieces away? I hope i am making sense
so G12T75 sounds like all those fancy impulse responses with tons of mud
thats some achievement! proud of you sir!
Great video! Yeah, the 75 is more dark and less clear compared to the V30. Maybe a treble/mid boost on the amp would be more fair for direct comparison, but there's no doubt that the V30 is just such a great speaker for recording!
So much agree with you, but my two cents defending the 75'er is in live situations where many amps with V30's or other aggresive speakers can be too ear piercing. As a live sound engineer in small venues, the best way to achieve good guitar tone is to become friends with the guitarists, so you can turn down the treble/presence knobs on their amps. Many PA speakers are also very sensitive in the 2k-4k range with their horn tweeters, where the mic'd up 75'er will sound better than a more aggresive speaker.
I personly like the Eminence V12, which is balanced, more mellow than the V30, but still alot clearer than the 75 for recording :)
I need to know: what does it sound like with a clean tone?
ME? An Epiphone Single cut straight into a Orange Dark Terror, into a pair of Celestion G12T-75's. My pedals are now collecting dust. And I don't get spending $25,000 on equipment to "tweak" a speaker! If you look around enough, you can find a STOCK speaker that does the tone you need.
Dude you are a really nutty perfectionist, I think adventures in tuned cabinets and an EQ in the front would be a an easier solve?
You make 2020 so much cooler. Thank you!
And it's gonna get even better in 21!
I have a pair of G12s in a 4x12 cab with the bottom two mounts left open. I love them! They roll the fizz and brittleness off of certain amps and give a really solid punchy sound. I don't care for V30s at all. They're so thin and fizzy sounding in most applications I have to roll off the treble and presence just so they don't pierce holes in me.
Why go through all that trouble. If it don't work for you try something else. The 75s were made to go with JCM 900 amps. They sound good with those amps which have a very bright and mid focused tone....hence why the 75 sounds they way it does.
You beat me to it! They're application specific and there's a reason they came in Marshall cabs. They also sound good with those modded Marshall plexi's everybody wanted back in the day That had a pronounced barking midrange.
i got 2 from a marshall MG soild state piece of Crap amp i got for 50 bucks on ebay, the amp would quit playing as a bad break in the solder board has a fan that puts out at least 5 watts...pile of Junk, I fixed my tube fender amp back up with a JBL d131 and Never looked at a Marshall again
I like the 75's and the 80's
Always top notch content! Learning so much!
was completely distracted by the hand in the window
Creepy, right?