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  • Опубликовано: 24 июн 2013
  • On this episode of The Art of Punk we hit head on with the art behind the legendary Dead Kennedy's. From the chaotic, surreal, madness, of collage mixed with political folly that blazed their LP's and gig flyers; to the razor edge ultra simplistic four simple line DK symbol. In San Francisco we corner founding Dead Kennedy's member Jello Biafra, and discuss his own warped inspiration for the many sleeves and posters created in the early days of the band. Back in Los Angeles we talk with pop surrealist artist Tim Biskup about how the DK's affected and twisted his own young mind, and Steve Olson graces us with a few words of wisdom. Finally we meet up with master collage artist, and designer of the DK's symbol, Winston Smith in his North Beach art studio, and talk about how he was drawn into the early Bay Area punk scene - and his long and creative artist relationship with the Dead Kennedy's and Jello Biafra.
    Created, directed, and Executive Produced by writer/author of 'Fucked Up + Photocopied', Bryan Ray Turcotte (Kill Your Idols), and Bo Bushnell (The Western Empire), The Art Of Punk traces the roots of the punk movement and the artists behind the iconic logos of punk bands such as: Black Flag (Raymond Pettibon), The Dead Kennedys (Winston Smith), and Crass (Dave King).
    In addition to profiling the artists, the series includes intimate interviews with former band members, notable artists, and celebrities who have been heavily influenced by the art of punk rock including Jello Biafra, Tim Biskup, Scott Campbell, Chuck Dukowski, Flea, Steve Olson, Penny Rimbaud, Henry Rollins, Owen Thornton, and Gee Vaucher.
    The filmmakers Bryan Ray Turcotte and Bo Bushnell take a unique approach to exploring the rich histories of these three seminal punk legends by focusing on the influential imagery and seeking out stories that have not been told yet through the artwork, which is integral to the importance and influence of each band.
    On June 11, 2013 The Art Of Punk debuts on MOCAtv with an episode on Raymond Pettibon and the artwork of Black Flag. The stories behind the art of the Dead Kennedys will debut on June 18, and June 25 will see the release of the Crass episode, all of which will be available at: / mocatv
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Комментарии • 174

  • @thevaxxines
    @thevaxxines 4 месяца назад +2

    Some of the best album covers of all time!!

  • @MyNameIsMrStuck
    @MyNameIsMrStuck 9 лет назад +138

    Winston's observation about punk "movement" lasting longer than the peace love and hippie crap is pretty interesting. The observation that rage and hatred sticks longer than peace and love is pretty profound, even scary.

    • @mykneecapshurt
      @mykneecapshurt 7 лет назад +6

      MUD_- it's observable throughout history, pretty much every large movement (good or bad) came to power and popularity through extreme opposition and hate towards the status quo

    • @buggs9950
      @buggs9950 5 лет назад +12

      I'm not so sure the comparison should be peaces & love / rage & hatred. It's just different ways to rebel, that is, doing nothing vs doing everything you can to subvert and fuck with the system. In hindsight it would seem that yes, doing something makes more impact, surprise..

    • @canstermeat8171
      @canstermeat8171 5 лет назад +9

      Exactly how hippies want you to think -- peace and love good, rage and hate bad, even though all of those are human emotions.

    • @thorazine8402
      @thorazine8402 3 года назад +10

      Since when is protest and questioning authority equivalent with rage and hatred? SMH

    • @CyberDeity01
      @CyberDeity01 6 месяцев назад +1

      It's really always been more of a modality type thing by way of generational eras, whereby oppression creates the need for a rise in in resistance; usually government or church, this time both...

  • @senorpigeon9564
    @senorpigeon9564 5 лет назад +93

    So punks made memes before memes were a thing. This is the best fact I have heard all time.

    • @generalbacardi3863
      @generalbacardi3863 3 года назад +2

      Yes. This is correct. However, punk normalized horseshit.

    • @lexscott2911
      @lexscott2911 3 года назад +7

      Actually you guys, memes have heen around forever, I would argue cavemen are more deserving of the credit. What do ya think Lascaux is?

    • @recynd77
      @recynd77 3 года назад +2

      @@generalbacardi3863 Sadly, you are 100% not wrong.

    • @hjillumi880
      @hjillumi880 2 года назад

      oh fucking hell not this shit

  • @stumppuppettheatre
    @stumppuppettheatre 11 лет назад +5

    There were quite a few punks who were trained artists and even more "fans" who were definitely outsider artists. Many of them did in fact do flyer art: David Brandt, Pusshead, Paul Votava III, Steve Humann. Several tattoo artists: Snickers, Mark Mahoney; also "fine" artists: Brian Tucker, John Denney, Phil Bower, Sue Tissue, Tim Armstrong; and photo/film creatives: Penelope Spheeris, KK Barrett, Nicole Panter, David Markey, Janet Cunningham, Ed Colver, Nikki Tucker, Jenny Lens, etc...

  • @MrPeguin666
    @MrPeguin666 11 лет назад +14

    lol "Nike Swooshtika"... I love Jello

  • @betazzo76
    @betazzo76 8 лет назад +44

    this video is outstanding

  • @davemarriott9332
    @davemarriott9332 3 года назад +3

    Great interview. Winston made a record cover for our band ‘Infested’ back in ‘95 in San Francisco. I remember going over to his house to meet him/talk about the cover....we went to his room and on the wall was the art piece of ‘In God We Trust’. I stepped back “there it is” I said, Winston said “yep it’s there”. Showed us the cover he worked up for ‘Helpless White Grub” with a 50’s style Ozzy n Heriot kitchen, fridge open, mother piecing out a worm pie to her waiting son with his bulging excited eyes....Fucking brilliant.
    One the nicest guys I’ve ever met and very honored to have worked with him. Glad to see he hasn’t changed...(I don’t think he ages)

  • @felgfc
    @felgfc 11 лет назад +9

    please keep up with this series!! The Art of Punk has some of the best content and approach I've seen in a while, congratulations MOCATV

  • @mandermpf
    @mandermpf 11 лет назад +37

    The Germs blue circle is an excelent logo too.

  • @davidkoenig8592
    @davidkoenig8592 11 лет назад +3

    Goodness, this series "The Art of Punk" is becoming the best thing I've seen in a very, very long time...Collage art is very difficult to pull off without it looking pretentious...Winston Smith did it the best. Very influential in my life...

  • @alanhansmannkurtcobain8811
    @alanhansmannkurtcobain8811 Год назад +1

    Awesome. Great Art!

  • @VioletDeliriums
    @VioletDeliriums 10 лет назад +37

    2:39 This is such a funny story about the fake bands and venues! You would think that it would kill a scene to fake people out like that, but it's funny it sort of landed him a job making art for punk bands. It kinda validates the line of thought that says, "If you want to make something happen, just start a rumor."

  • @deanhumphries7878
    @deanhumphries7878 2 года назад +1

    The Dead Kennedys Art work for there albums and single covers in an Art form on it's own, Love the Dead Kennedys. Respect from the UK.

  • @JemalDiamond
    @JemalDiamond 11 лет назад +2

    This is great. I had no idea my design, typography, and collage practice was being influenced by Winston Smith and other designers when I was thrashing around listening to this awesome angsty music back in the day.

  • @i2ndsight
    @i2ndsight 7 лет назад +1

    So glad to have made that historic introduction you guys!

  • @dant8008
    @dant8008 3 года назад +1

    Awesome series! Would love to see more!

  • @DrFrankenskippy
    @DrFrankenskippy 5 лет назад

    Zoinks! ... now that is a brill' POV of this great artist and of course Jello/the san fran punker scene

  • @Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio
    @Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio 11 лет назад +1

    Hell yeah! Pushead!!! Talk about an influential dude... today there are 10,000 artists drawing skulls because of him.

  • @007KrausBean
    @007KrausBean 7 лет назад

    On of the most iconic and the BEST logos ever.

  • @noahtavlin
    @noahtavlin 11 лет назад

    love the series!!! more please

  • @svenjo72dpi
    @svenjo72dpi 11 лет назад

    This is mos def the best music documentary ever!

  • @yaronimus1
    @yaronimus1 6 лет назад +1

    AWESOME GRAPHIC DESIGN!!

  • @rogeliogonzalez5293
    @rogeliogonzalez5293 10 лет назад

    Love Winston. Love Jello. ~~~~ Simplicity contains the secret of genius. In other words; "Less is more.".

  • @devinrodriguez3530
    @devinrodriguez3530 Год назад

    I love that Steve Olson shows up in all these punk docs love you Olson

  • @mandermpf
    @mandermpf 11 лет назад

    Awesome! Love that logo!

  • @jimhorwat
    @jimhorwat 11 лет назад +1

    Awesome series! Very well done. Would love to see more...
    My vote is for D.I. They had an awesome logo - Mayan dog statue thing; very '80s O.C. skate-ish

  • @DanWasHereToo
    @DanWasHereToo 11 лет назад

    Very interesting! I'm glad I stumbled upon this!

  • @jamescourtney4655
    @jamescourtney4655 11 лет назад +5

    Those Shriners are so funny!

  • @carvinblack
    @carvinblack 11 лет назад

    Awesome video!

  • @betapetrol
    @betapetrol 11 лет назад +11

    MISFITS is coming!!

  • @tyelland
    @tyelland 11 лет назад

    Great story !

  • @crossfiretv3602
    @crossfiretv3602 11 лет назад

    Yes Winston. Looking dope there bruv.

  • @betapetrol
    @betapetrol 11 лет назад

    Love That Book! Viva La James Stark

  • @T9X78
    @T9X78 10 лет назад

    Very cool....thx

  • @LetsGoMetsGo33
    @LetsGoMetsGo33 10 лет назад +9

    the pistols (jamie reid, vivienne westwood), ramones (arturo vega), and clash (simmonon and jones went to art school, did a lot of stencils and paints onn clothes and backdrops) would be cool episodes too.

    • @squirrelguirrel7010
      @squirrelguirrel7010 6 лет назад

      Cheetah Thunders. You are right, we’d be interested. Please go make those videos!

  • @cameraboynyc
    @cameraboynyc 11 лет назад

    More please. You have to keep this series going, there are so many great logos left; Skank Man from Circle Jerks, Seven Seconds, Minor Threat ....

  • @helenfreud2088
    @helenfreud2088 10 лет назад

    this impact everyone

  • @Skeletonwitharaygun
    @Skeletonwitharaygun 11 лет назад +1

    Can't wait for the misfits video. :D

  • @kingobeast8528
    @kingobeast8528 11 лет назад +1

    Don't know that one but here is one I have cherished for many years; "Streetart, the Punk Poster in San Francisco, 1977-1981"

  • @samorenpalmer
    @samorenpalmer 8 месяцев назад

    Dope

  • @BRB2370
    @BRB2370 8 лет назад

    awesome

  • @RunningP123456
    @RunningP123456 11 лет назад

    i would love to see that

  • @pinkaerozeppelin
    @pinkaerozeppelin 11 лет назад

    awesome icon

  • @saulgoodmanshellokittyphone
    @saulgoodmanshellokittyphone 7 лет назад +1

    I'd love to see the collages made by Biafra

  • @mandermpf
    @mandermpf 11 лет назад +1

    I hope they make Misfits, Crass and Ramones episodes. Crime, FEAR and Bad Brains have great text logos too.

  • @jesuspeaksfrench
    @jesuspeaksfrench 11 лет назад +1

    Rudimentary Peni next would be sick!

  • @MxAxRxK
    @MxAxRxK 6 лет назад +3

    I have that “let them eat jellybeans” record

  • @Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio
    @Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio 11 лет назад +1

    I think the story of that poster warrants its own episode. Though I'm sure they passed over it in this one because it was Giger's art and not Winston's.

  • @victorschmidt3164
    @victorschmidt3164 6 лет назад +7

    I always draw the logo on tables at school

    • @obiwaltkenobi575
      @obiwaltkenobi575 5 лет назад

      lol, mee too, together with anarchist A, Squat N, Totalni Naszeni TN

    • @s.a.l.1974
      @s.a.l.1974 4 года назад +1

      Me too, and black flag and jfa and poison idea and agression and void

  • @meowmeow-cr5sn
    @meowmeow-cr5sn 2 года назад

    "What if Crass was funny" is probably the best was to describe Jello

  • @chriscameron9321
    @chriscameron9321 5 лет назад

    Hate will still be there long after love has dissolved and left this world!

  • @LetThePoorStarve
    @LetThePoorStarve 11 лет назад

    Cool

  • @thesanfordmethod1905
    @thesanfordmethod1905 11 месяцев назад +2

    Half of these bands , not all, wou;dn't even exist if it wasn't for Ray's artwork. Ray Pettibon is like the 5th beatle in many bands imo.

  • @djashearman6453
    @djashearman6453 11 лет назад +4

    Loved this series, any chance of more?
    Need a Rudimentary Peni one!

    • @peteormond3565
      @peteormond3565 Год назад

      Might not be the easiest thing in the world to get an interview with Nick Blinko

  • @fredxmertz
    @fredxmertz 11 лет назад +3

    "In God We Trust, Inc." is like a soundtrack to my life.

  • @dontgetmewrong2669
    @dontgetmewrong2669 8 лет назад +11

    kinda strange that there is no dk music at the beginning

    • @zverina
      @zverina 7 лет назад +8

      due to legal battles it seems you can either have Jello or the DKs in your doc, but not both.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys#Legal_conflicts

  • @IanInfernal
    @IanInfernal 11 лет назад

    Do Circle Jerks soon! The skanker man is rad.

  • @LetThePoorStarve
    @LetThePoorStarve 11 лет назад

    NO kidding! How could they leave that out! That was HUGE obscenity case! Jello went on Oprah!

  • @rocketmatt1996
    @rocketmatt1996 11 лет назад +1

    Also, the misfits should be next. The story behind the crimson ghost.

  • @dddsssaaaqqq
    @dddsssaaaqqq 4 года назад

    Does anybody know which collage Winston talks about when he speaks about Niagara Falls?

  • @tonykuchar3237
    @tonykuchar3237 11 лет назад

    What is the title of the book being burned in the intro?

  • @sabbracadabra8367
    @sabbracadabra8367 2 года назад

    The video pairs well with the Black Flag Raymond Pettibon video.

  • @CarlosOrtiz-wi4kf
    @CarlosOrtiz-wi4kf 3 года назад

    punk is live star time real music is power is love just day is punk.

  • @jessesnyder5150
    @jessesnyder5150 8 лет назад +2

    The symbol is the rune for grief and fear
    no
    B

  • @LetThePoorStarve
    @LetThePoorStarve 11 лет назад

    Minor Threat or Misfits next!

  • @noodledalight5
    @noodledalight5 11 лет назад +5

    Bad Brains

  • @Cheshire_Alchemist
    @Cheshire_Alchemist 11 лет назад +3

    Yes, collage art can be deeply misunderstood as scrapbook art in the wrong hands, with the wrong attitude about what it can be...

  • @ghoulhellbilly2528
    @ghoulhellbilly2528 6 лет назад

    im voming here once in a whice for couple of years, and i still dont know what's the music at 1:42

  • @gosoku2771
    @gosoku2771 6 лет назад +1

    Circle One.

  • @GreatestPotential
    @GreatestPotential 11 лет назад +2

    LARD saved my life.

  • @dasadopeboy
    @dasadopeboy 9 лет назад +2

    i used it as my initials, fuckn cool

    • @heyphilphil
      @heyphilphil 7 лет назад +6

      dasadopeboy
      That's Awesome Dickie Kooter!!! Awesome!!!

  • @ellettcheyneArt
    @ellettcheyneArt 11 лет назад +1

    tsol or adolecents next!

  • @freakgeek66
    @freakgeek66 11 лет назад +3

    "What if Crass was funny?"... Then people would probably still like them 30 years later... like Black Flag.

    • @buzzardsinuses4780
      @buzzardsinuses4780 4 года назад

      People don’t like Crass? I’ve never heard of them until I saw this video.

    • @soylentramen7795
      @soylentramen7795 3 года назад

      "We're ruled by dangerous, mad people. What's funny about *that* for fuck's sake?"....

  • @manuelfong2648
    @manuelfong2648 7 лет назад

    whats is the intro song

  • @o.liveil7111
    @o.liveil7111 4 года назад

    Jello is my punk rock grandpa

  • @eamonic
    @eamonic 10 лет назад +2

    Anyone know what song plays at the end during credits?

    • @TheJajajajaja21
      @TheJajajajaja21 8 лет назад

      +eamonic sounds like the band Fucked Up to me, not sure what song it is, though if you like it their whole discography should do you some good

    • @eamonic
      @eamonic 8 лет назад

      Jacob Dunn Thanks you.

  • @OccupyJordan
    @OccupyJordan 11 лет назад

    Great vids, but nothing about H.R. Geiger and the Frankenchrist work?

  • @betapetrol
    @betapetrol 11 лет назад

    VIVA LA DEAD KENNEDYS

  • @betapetrol
    @betapetrol 11 лет назад

    CRASS is up now!

  • @aandreaa0000
    @aandreaa0000 5 лет назад

    ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

  • @Lazarob12
    @Lazarob12 7 лет назад +3

    Song at 4:50?

  • @ani9ikocug474
    @ani9ikocug474 8 лет назад +3

    minor threat gamw

  • @mandermpf
    @mandermpf 11 лет назад +2

    I disagree on fucking The Ramones, Its a great logo and iconography (though that one already heard that story). I am also interested in hearing about The Sucidal Tendencies graphic expression.

  • @Inimbrium
    @Inimbrium 11 лет назад

    |>|< forever!

  • @z.833
    @z.833 3 года назад +1

    Is it his real name? Or did he take it from George Orwell's 1984?

  • @baker3person
    @baker3person 9 лет назад +1

    Whats the song at 2:35?

  • @radogguts6165
    @radogguts6165 3 года назад

    I wish doom could have worked with gello

  • @smashism
    @smashism 11 лет назад

    Pushead next

  • @ElCazador66
    @ElCazador66 11 лет назад

    Fuckin awesome

  • @RunningP123456
    @RunningP123456 11 лет назад

    how did they not talk about the frankenchrist poster???

  • @chainsawbarbarian
    @chainsawbarbarian 10 лет назад +1

    You mean the Dead Kennedy's hexagram? Their logo is a 6 pointed shape that (with a "Y" in the middle is a 3D cube. ruclips.net/video/exjnTvxkarA/видео.html Here's my video about hidden occult/freemason symbols on old punk rock records. A triangle up and a triangle down...the Star of David. Same as MOCA's spinning cube at the beginning of this vid. They are everywhere. Not calling it evil....just trippy. Crack a beer and please enjoy! PS.....the cube inside the circle makes the Masonic square and compass. Come be amazed, punkrockers!

  • @KnoxHardGallery
    @KnoxHardGallery 11 лет назад

    I dont understand why they don't use any of the music from the band they are featuring?!

  • @turbomustang84
    @turbomustang84 8 месяцев назад +1

    Best punk band ever and political but having the good sense to hate both sides .
    And east bay ray never got the respect for his screeching guitar that absolutely deserves it

  • @frankdiscussion2069
    @frankdiscussion2069 9 лет назад +12

    Why is Jello Biafra in a wheelchair??

    • @MyNameIsMrStuck
      @MyNameIsMrStuck 9 лет назад +1

      Frank Discussion I'm assuming its not because he is crippled because it appears he is at a show.

    • @lowerclassbrats77
      @lowerclassbrats77 6 лет назад +6

      Old high school football injury. 🤐

    • @D3lirium-ik7dg
      @D3lirium-ik7dg 6 лет назад +3

      Frank Discussion His injury from his jock days caught up to him.

    • @sn1000k
      @sn1000k 5 лет назад

      do you people not know about him being almost beaten to death?

    • @6AM_YT
      @6AM_YT 5 лет назад +2

      He is being crushed by the weight of his own bullshit and ego.

  • @DasIstDochMalEinName
    @DasIstDochMalEinName 11 лет назад

    interesting...
    ...not a single dead kennedys-song throughout the whole vid

  • @DisappearHere
    @DisappearHere 11 лет назад

    music licensing is $, and there's legal issues between the band members

  • @EWKification
    @EWKification 5 лет назад

    Other than the logo no piece of art was displayed for more than a fraction of a second. This inadvertently undercuts the whole premise of the video, and the series, which is that the art associated with punk is worth looking at. Well, let me fucking look at it for at least one second then. Apparently whoever made the film didn't think it was worth looking at for more that a fleeting instant. That says really quite a lot. The whole point of a still image is that it stays still so your eye can wander around it. It's NOT just a frame in a movie to disappear in a tenth of a second.

  • @orphanstephen
    @orphanstephen 11 лет назад

    Jello drinks Deschutes

  • @robertcaffrey6097
    @robertcaffrey6097 5 лет назад

    If you like Winston Smith and Gee Vaucher art then check this out ruclips.net/video/5bNWO8sLD7I/видео.html

  • @santiagoblanes6969
    @santiagoblanes6969 Год назад

    "what if crass was funny" 😭😭😭😭😭😭