The Rocky History of Cross-Generational Pokemon Evolution!
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I hope we get NEW evolutions from older Pokémon in Pokémon Legends Z-A.
I mean it's almost guaranteed since in all new Pokemon games since sun and moon (except let's go and kind of the ultra games) has regional evolution although it's a bit less likely because they might get shafted for megas
I’m curious if we will-I hope so but fear it may be new Megas instead (I want both 😅)
Fr, it's so nice seeing old pokemon get love and a fresh breath of air
Probably new mega evolutions
There’s a good chance since Legends Arceus has cross gen evolutions so why not Legends Z-A.
Evolite recon is just a rumor. They just didn't felt the need to do cross generation evolutions for some of the generations. It is good to see them again though.
I love the new duraludan evolution and I'm glad they brought back sewaddle evolution line
13:27 just a small correction, it wasnt the first time, gen 2 had evolutions to gen 1 Pokemon, as well as gen 4 having an evolution to the gen 3 Roselia
Yeah, I meant first time in awhile. Should’ve worded that better!
As well as Frosslass and Gallade
they just said it can evolve in Paldea to say that hey it can evolve now, nowhere does it say it can only evolve in Paldea
The introduction of Mega Evolutions, (in the games that got them) also prevented a lot of pokemon from getting evolutions. Who cares about a regular evolution when they can create a Mega?
True that. It means Pokemon like Camerupt, Mawile, Sableye will probably never get an actual evolution so long as their Mega exists.
My only complaint with cross Gen evos is Kanto remakes treating them as though don't exist
Got Megas and Alolan forms in LGPE but not Crobat of all things
Favorite cross gen evos are Espeon for best Eeveelution and Annihilape
Dont forget how in FRLG you straight up cant get Espeon or Umbreon thanks to no Day/Night cycle, or how Golbat will constantly want to evovle but wont till NatDex
@grantdaily9662 those are by far the worst crimes imo since I still have a working copy of Leaf Green from my childhood
The Golbat evo fake out confused kid me so much
Same with the Battle Tower NPC SHINY Espeon when I had been soothe bell grinding my Level 70 Eevee and OHKOing everything with its Return to hopefully have one myself
A case of 151 being a sacred number for kanto screwing things over
@@mazharsiddiqi7288 RIGHT!? I remember getting so excited by Golbat evolving, then so confused and angery
@@MagillanicaLouMI think the number would be around 195 if we got a game that included all Kanto related (cross-gen evolutions, pre-evolutions & regional evolutions) and adjacent (convergent species, paradoxes, & Meltan + Melmetal) mons. Why they didn’t at least include cross gen evolutions in Let’s Go is beyond me; I can kinda understand FRLG since that was a similar situation to BDSP where they wanted to be very faithful (doesn’t make the evolution screen tease any less heinous tho).
Jynx should have get a evolution just like how they did with electabuzz and magmar in gen 4
This video really put into perspective it’s been forever since we got proper evolutions
Remember when all of us thought Arbok Evolved into Seviper in Gen 3
Omg I thought I was the only one! Also thought Magcargo evolved into Torkoal
@rionemmanuel7109 I see why you would think that I also remember A RUclipsr named Marriland thought that Torkoal Evolved into Tortanator and alot people thought Drampa was the Dunsparce Evolution
First time I've ever heard anything about this Eviolite retcon.
Really? Wild. It was all the talk in gen 5 and 6
I'd love to see Dewgong evolve into a proper Narwhal like Pokemon. That'd be awesome!
Waiting to see if Scovillain receives another evolution in the future, because I can't believe that its the final form
Another good video. I subbed as well. lol also the flying poster is so good. Also what’s your favorite type?
My favorite regional evolution is so hard because they’re so many! I do like Anniliape
Thank you!!! My favorite type is Water-but I also LOVE Flying.
Every Crossroad bring new endless ways
"gen 3 we didn't have cross generational evolutions"
Azurill and Wynaut crying and sobbing in the corner right now
Those aren’t evolutions. They are preevolutions. No Pokémon evolves into those
I still can’t believe the New Cross gen Evos they’ve done this generation. So good to see them mix things up.
Ikr? Dunsparce, Girafarig, Bisharp, Primeape, Applin, and Duraludon is such a good batch!
@@lumiosepost yes, incredible and creative. You see a lot of people throwing round the word ‘lazy’, (especially about the last 2 gens) but I don’t think there is anything lazy going on with their designs.
Galar had just lazy story and graphics, not pokémon designs.
@@turkoositerapsidi still wouldn’t use the word ‘lazy’ for that either.
@@BioinformaticsBase Well, Galarian story had interesting elements in it, but it was not put together very well. It was a mess, more than what happens when a wild garbodor and muk raid your kitchen.
Also graphics were not improved that much, but some of the animations were good, most were not tho.
I hope Alolan and Kalos Pokémon get cross gen evolutions someday to complete the classic principle of cross gen evolutions in all generations of Pokémon.
Great video man! Love Pokémon discussion videos 🔥💯👌🏾
Thank you!!
Gen 3 had azurill and wynaut.
Yeah I wanted to focus on evolutions here though, not pre-evolutions
I mean it’s looking like they’ll use it to make whoever buys the next game (probably Legends Z-A) want to/need to buy the previous games for completion or competitive purposes
I hope cross gen evolutions continue because
- it was my favourite part of gen 2. I remember being really salty about them being missing from gens 3 and, in part, gen 5. I think regional forms are neat as a way not to make any Pokémon too much of an expy of something previous.
- i like how they expand on certain themes ie. how Poliwag line were based on tadpoles but never became a frog until GSC or how Yanmega is based on a more prehistoric form of dragonflies from fossils.
- i have 10 or so boxes of shiny Pokémon in SV untouched just in case they get new evolutions in the future and it would be a waste to evolve them 😅
Semi-related but I still think, from thier names, that Cetoddle and Capsakid should have been classified as baby Pokemon. I know they were viewed as a bit mixed but i miss baby Pokemon too. Toxel was cute in an ugly way.
I do hope the remaining Hisui evolutions can be more accessible in the future. Maybe they could evolve while holding a hisuian ornament like a croagunk wooden doll and get hit by a certain move type (Ursaring- ground, Stantler- psychic, Petilil- fighting, Bergmite and Scyther- rock, sligoo- steel etc)
You are correct in saying that Gen 4 has the most cross gen evos to date, 29 to be exact and this includes Baby Pokémon. A cross gen evo just means adding a new Pokémon to an already existing Pokémon's line, in which case Gen 3 has 2 cross gen evos. Anyhow that means that 27.10% of Sinnoh's new Pokémon are cross gen evos, not half but still quite a lot. Also to all of the Eevee enthusiasts (myself included lol), the pattern of Eevee getting a new evolution every even numbered technically still stands. Even though Eevee didn't get a new evolution in Gen 8, it still got something new with Gigantamax Eevee. Not exactly a new evoluton but a 'new' design within the Eevee family. We're on the cusp of Pokémon turning 30 which is a pretty big deal and with Eevee being one of the poster children of the franchise I'd wager to say that it'll get something new come Gen 10. What better way than a Dragon Eeveelution to celebrate 30 years of Pokémon? Heck maybe even a new duo if they're feeling generous. Dragon, Ghost, Bug, Ground, & Flying are at the top 5 of my wishlist. I'm just happy Game Freak doesn't seem afraid to give us cross gen evos alongside things like regional variants & convergent Pokémon, it makes the games feel way more organic. All I wish come Gen 10 is if we get more cross gen evos that Pokémon from ALL generations get a fair share of the cross gen evo pie, not just Kanto. I don't want another Sun & Moon on our hands with the regional variants being solely for Kanto Pokémon lol.😬😅
Never actually thought about the wibbly wobbly conundrum brought about by eviolite and regional forms getting exclusive evolutions. At least worls building/lore wise, the latter is pretty cool but yeah. Looking back they really were just trying to figure stuff out for a while in that regard.
Also Primeape was always a peak mon for me, one of my favorite designs since before i was pottytrained lol. Annihalape is a double edged sword for me, can appreciate it but also the og angry monkey still reigns for me
Well now you can use primeape with an eviolite so even if you like it better than annihlape it’s still good that it was added
Farigiraf isn't a regional evolution because there are no regional variants of Girafarig. It's just weird wording. Don't forget that same website said Smoliv and Lechonk were going to be part of Nemona's team and they weren't anywhere on her team, only Pawmi
GREAT point!
All I need is new eeveelutions
I’m still waiting on my Dragon Eevee 😮💨
I strongly want Forretress to get a new evolution. It's evolved from could have the ability to fly, use its wings as shield, and even canons for hands.
Dude I’ve never even thought of a Forretress evolution. That is a GREAT candidate! Love seeing a fellow Forretress fan 🫡
@@lumiosepost glad you liked it. For the method part, I think Forretress can evolve by leveling up once while learning a certain move.
If you like, I also have an idea an evolved form of Hariyama where evolves by leveling up in an environment with a lot of waves, and it becomes a Fighting/Water type, which could be a tribute to Brawly from the Hoenn region.
My favorite cross generation Pokémon (not including regional variants):
1. Hydrapple
2. Archaludon
3. Gallade
4. Ursaluna
5. Gliscor
6. Weavile
7. Mismagius
8. Yanmega (Would be higher if it was Bug/Dragon)
9. Kleavor
10. Scizor
11. Kingdra
12. Steelix
13. Slowking
14. Annihilape
15. Crobat
16. Blissey
17. Porygon-Z
18. Porygon2
19. Ambipom
20. Tangrowth
21. Froslass
22. Mamoswine
23. Electivire
24. Magmortar
25. Magnezone
26. Togekiss
27. Kingambit
28. Espeon
29. Umbreon
30. Sylveon
31. Glaceon
32. Honchkrow
33. Politoed
34. Rhyperior
35. Dudunsparce
36. Wyrdeer
37. Leafeon
38. Farigiraf
39. Dusknoir
40. Roserade
41. Bellossom
42. Probopass
43. Lickilicky
About 1/5 of the sinnoh Pokémon were cross gen evos, 1/4 if you include baby Pokémon
I'd love to see another evolution for Haxorus, I love that fella
I’d say Haxorus would moreso benefit from a mega
I would love but LOVE if toxicroak got another evolution as bisharp got kingambit
You could say there is a cross gen evolution between gens 2 and 3. Gen 3 gave us Azuril which evolves into Marill, a generation 2 pokemon. Same thing with gen 4 with munchlax, happiny, bonsly, chingling, mantyke, and mime Jr. With even more gens 1 and 2 cross evos with cleffa, pichu, igglybuff, tyrogue, elekid, magby, and smoochum.
Don't forget Wynaut too!~
I want them to bring back Madamé as a cross Gen Evo for Kanto farfetch'd
There's a lot of pokemon who need cross gen evos instead of megas for sure like Druddigon.
If he got a Mega and when Megas are removed eventually he still sucks.
I really don’t agree with Farigiraf point. All of the regional evolutions were introduced where sold to us as exclusive to that region, but then you had those wild Pokémon in other regions.
Very true! I don’t agree with it either-it’s just a point I’ve seen made so thought it’d be wise to cover it :)
I grew up on Gen 1 and 2 (Gen 2 felt like a continuation of gen 1), skipped Gen 3 games (cause you'd get bullied for liking pokemon back in the day, but watched the anime), Gen 4 got me back into the pokemon games after seeing gen 1 pokemon getting new evos, gen 5 was awesome (skipped bw2), gen 6 was pretty cool, gen 7 (skipped usum) is where playing pokemon felt like a chore, gen 8 was decent (d/l the dlc but never played them) gen 9 was ehh. i actually played the gen 9 dlc's.
I can think of several that need new evos. Jynx, Chimecho, Dewgong, Lapras, Carnivine, Chatot, Seviper, Zangoose, Noctowl and like four other mons i can think of off the top of my head from Gen 2 and 3.
I also love all the new Cross Gen Evos we have gotten so far. Wyrdeer and Farigaraf were two i personally have wanted since GSC due to how much i love Stantler and Girafarig. I hope Chimecho and Chatot are next, it'd be great to sew my favorite Hoenn and Sinnoh mons get something
Of these I'd like Zangoose and Seviper should get the Kingambit/Charcadet evolution treatment by making evolution items using there natural enemies item drops
@@mazharsiddiqi7288 that'd be a cool idea, or the Duralodon or Dipplin treatment with a new item or move
As much as i prefer slowking over slowbro how the heck was any kid in the late 90's-early 2000's supposed to know to give slowpoke a king's rock,trade it to a friend then trade it back?
Same way they know to walk under that one arch in the wild area with a yamask under half health I guess 😂
I mean kings rock at least has king in the name, so there is a hint for slowking. Now imagine trying to get politoed
For the longest time I thought that Gliscor and Weavile were simple item trade evolutions, but when I finally got around to using one its actually a lot more unique than that. Requiring you to level it up wit the item instead of trading with it and even requires a certain time of day for each. Personally, I will always prefer a cross gen evolution to a regional variant. There are times where a regional variant makes more sense, but only when the form doesn't feel like a linear progression of the base mon. I can totally see Exeggutor evolving into a more traditional palm tree, especially with how versatile Alolan Exeggutor is on some teams. The other big problem is that any sort of copy form has no obligation to retain the strengths or character of the original. Hoennian Linoone's biggest claim to fame was its combination of Belly Drum and Extreme Speed. 2 moves that Obstagoon is sorely lacking.
IMO, Alola did a much better job of this than Galar mainly because a lot of gen 1 Pokemon were overshadowed by later gen Pokemon, some even occupying the same design ethos, like Muk and Garbodoar or Rapidash and Zebstrika, which would make it difficult to evolve either without blurring their identities more than they already are. Regional variants are a great solution to this because it creates new options to improve the design that also keep the original Pokemon's identity intact.
Corsola and Farfetch'd are definitely the most frustrating examples because both leave the original with nothing to do, and don't put enough effort in to further the ideas put forth with their originals. Sure Galarian Farfetch'd evolves when you crit, but NOTHING ELSE about it has anything to do with critting. An incredibly shallow representation of such a unique playstyle. Corsola is almost as bad because it gets some fantastic abilities in Natural Cure and Regenerator that are just thrown in the trash due to its bad typing. Would've loved to see a Rock/Ghost type Cursola for the unique combo alone
I agree with galarian corsola and Cursola being rock/ghost.
But I feel like that typing would make them less defensive and I think that’s their role. I could be wrong though.
Them only being ghost makes them have less things that are super effective against them.
Do you even know what retcon means? I don't think you do.
Sure I do. These were Pokémon that could or could not evolve, but were retconned to be solidified as “unable to evolve”. And then giving them an evolution retcons their eligibility to use the eviolite
You talk about the eveolite and people being scared that it means the Pokémon who’s can’t use won’t be able to evolve but this is the exact reason why I hate megas so much. It stopped so many good candidates from evolving forever cause mega is supposed to be over the natural limit of the Pokémon’s line. The megas for 3 stage evolutions are obviously fine but the others ruin so many possible designs for actual evolutions, I love mega Alteria so much and I wish that was the finally evolution, make the fairy dragon real but no, all it did was kill that possible Pokémon and what makes this so much more insulting is how Pokémon gave up on megas so all that design effort was for nothing.
I just think megas should have been permanent instead of temporary. Not a clue how that would work, but it's not up to me.
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Cross-gen pre evolutions (baby pokemon) count and noteworthy was the incense mechanic that was also scrapped in gen 9.
Also interesting to note was how the introduction of megas in gen 6 fed into the Eviolite theory - that a pokemon couldn't receive a new evo unless it was a temporary mega evo.
Oh, really? I never tried breeding Pokémon lines with baby pre-evolutions in them. So there are no incenses in SV? I never noticed haha
@@ennmoon it went almost completely under the radar. No incense exist in S&V. I looked it up to try to find where to get the luck incense.
Bonsly, Happiny, Azurill, all available without incense now. I think it's partly due to the breeding mechanic changing from daycare to picnics.