It's likely the proposer wants to do in front of family and friends in hopes that the proposee will feel too embarrassed to say no. From what brother said to OP, it's obvious that was brother's motivation. Unfortunately for him, GF was not going to play that game to his satisfaction.
This was nauseating. A 30 year old man having so much clout in the family and that from his early years. He went bawling to grandma about being asked to pay a reasonable rent and that stupid biddy took him in. Tough on her cause he’ll use her for her money and drop her like a sack of sht when she’s too old to care for herself and has signed the house over to him. His attempt at an apology was pathetic but to be expected cause he was never made to take responsibility for anything because the blame was always put on op. What a crappy brother. I don’t care how you’re raised, if you don’t have empathy for your siblings and take evil pleasure in seeing them hurt and punished due to your misdeeds, you’re garbage.
@@debl3063 Plus isn't a sever breach of ediqute to purpose at someone else's wedding, birthday party, engagement party, baby shouwer, or funeral, without that person''s expressed permission. Which cleaerly to brother in this story did *NOT* have. Und the brother's girlfriend made it quite clear that no matter *WHERE* or *WHEN* he purposed that she'd say no to him. Icold thensee the OP's brother go running to grandma about how "unfair" it was that he purposed to his girlfriend at his baby brother's wedding, ruining it for him und she still said no to him.
I have heard this story so many times now, but it never seems to get old. It has everything, drama, an OP with a shiny spine who gets the happy ending he deserves, the crappy people getting what they deserve, and OP's parents who he loves actually seeing the error of their ways and becoming better parents to both adult kids. Enabling your adult kid is actually harmful and definitely not doing him any favors. This is a great story. I wish people got what they deserved more often.
“OP's parents who he loves actually seeing the error of their ways and becoming better parents” This part of the story was most surprising to me, because of how rare it is for parents with a favorite child to change their ways.
Parents actually understand they screwed up with their golden child and are learning to change? I'm in shock. Don't think I've heard a reddit story like this before! 🤣
My guess Grandma the one who has been Golden Childing/Scape Goating the grand children and Mom and Dad went along with it because she'd cut off financial support (The parents clearly terrible with finances I'm sure they've need help before) and they've just realized that now she retired OP is the new cash cow. The attitude swap is just too sudden for me to think otherwise. Most Golden Child Scape Goat parents call the "bluff" at least till it's clear its not a bluff. Add to that doormat Mom suddenly exploding in the update.
@@Alberto-wu1mj agreed! Couldn’t have written this better once we heard grandma flipped out beating up cops at the wedding & is in a Psych Hospital lol 😂
They took Grandma to a psych ward. That’s the only place after three days you can get a visitor. They took her for a psycho valuation, and then took her to jail. That is hilarious.
My grandmother (mother's mom) despised my brother and I. She thought my parents should have only had two children, and we were #3 and #4. She was mean and flat out vicious to us. Luckily, neither of us cared. The oldest two were the only ones who got any "love" from her, but it wasn't much and didn't save them from her wrath completely.
Oh wow!! I’m amazed that after all the mistreatment OP is so level headed and well adjusted. I’m also amazed that his parents actually realized they were wrong. Good for OP for being able to forgive his parents and still let them in his life. What a roller coaster ride! Thanks for sharing.
The grandmother is the "cause" of the enabling of the brother, the parents unfortunately realised too late about the "training" they got from grandma to "enable" the elder son.(not giving parents a pass on it though) It was only op's threat to withdraw the support that loosened the blinkers about the brother.
Oh shit. I remember this story. The last update is truly insane. The brother is truly an AH and the grandmother only has herself to blame. She’s just a AH And he wasn’t getting engaged no matter what lol
@@GiordanDiodato I disagree, his "apology" was a half-arsed attempt because he saw that he was no longer being treated as the "golden child." Und he disperatly wanted the spotlight back on himself.
Story 1: Let's flip it. This girlfriend is unhappy for some reason. She's thinking about leaving. Then her boyfriend proposes to her at a wedding. Not only is she unlikely to say yes, she's likely to say no a way where I can't decide if it's good or bad that there are plenty of witnesses. If his relationship is in trouble, fix it in private, and don't depend on someone else's event for the assist. And really if the brother put as much effort into making his girlfriend happy as he does to hounding OP, maybe he wouldn't be in this mess.
This. Why, just why do narcissists put such a hellish amount of time and energy throwing a fit to get their way when if they used that energy towards actually getting what they want the proper way it would be faster and easier on them and everyone else. Smh.🙄
The brother wanted to do a Baseball Game 7th inning proposal on the Big Screen and Telecast. "She'll have to say yes. It would be too embarrassing to say no". She says no. They figure the audience witnessing the proposal will scare her into submittance.
Heard this one before. It must have been freaking sweet for OP to finally rain Hellfire on his enabling parents and Golden Child brother! But I'm so glad he's cut off Grandma forever, she's a freaking monster. Hilarious that she and Golden Boy finally turned on each other! I hope OP continues to kick arse and chew bubblegum!
I remember hearing about one part of this story before all of the updates and thinking how maybe the grandma was treating the older grandson like her do-over baby. Glad to hear that everything got sorted in the end: • girlfriend of older bro found out and dumped his butt. • older bro is finally becoming an adult now that he doesn't have anybody enabling him. • parents have seen the light using to enable either grandma or the son anymore. • OP had a proposal free wedding and seems to be doing well
This was the best thread I have ever heard 👏👏👏 here’s to you op 🍾🍺🥃🍸🍶🍻🥂. Congratulations on cutting out the cancer. Hopefully your brother grows up and apologizes
If you afraid your girlfriends, gonna leave, you proposing to her is not really going to help. Why don’t you find a nice space something she likes and proposed to her that way.
Update 2, Feel sorry that your brother's EX found out from Reddit, but it feels reassuring that SHE TO would have ruined his plan to Propose at your wedding as well. Likely would have made YOUR DAY if he did try proposing and she Screamed Infront of Grandma, and ALL FAMILY "F NO". would have served him right for going against the wishes of both the Bride and the Groom.
Good on OP for getting all the detritus out of his life. His parents have learned their lesson; the trash, in the forms of his brother and grandmother, have taken themselves out; and OP and fiance have a bright future ahead of them.
Okay this is the best story I’ve heard. I know that my statement will be controversial, but I’m glad that it happened for both OP and his parents. Because otherwise, the parents nor OP would have ever been happy with the brother and grandmother in their lives. Now the parents are renting to tenants that will enable them to pay off the second mortgage and the brother is having to live on his own instead of leaching or mooching off his family. Also OP and his parents have learned not to cave into the emotional blackmail from the brother and grandmother. One a side note they’ve also learned that grandmother needs someone to scapegoat or bully. Discovering that piece of her personality will keep them from slowly sliding back into familiarity of letting her get away with stuff.
I don't think anyone has to worry about golden child brother once grandma is gone. Grammy will no doubt leave everything to "her favorite grandson". Of course, once he wastes whatever money he gets and then has to sell grandma's house, spends THAT money, he'll be in deep doodoo
@@rolandhansen812 That'd be bro's best-case scenario. Bro has few expenses, certainly never paid back any of the money borrowed on his behalf. He just absolutely won't help anyone else. Who knows what grandma will do with a will. My bet would be her either leaving no paperwork and everyone struggling thru probate for years or, being spiteful, donate her house to some charity so no one in the family could have it.
Oh man, when op's brother apologized in the letter, i was beginning to think that maybe, maybe there was some shred of a chance he'd actually grow to be a proper person. But no such luck. Oh well.
There's an update missing from this story which I think happened before the wedding, basically OP's brother came over to his house absolutely shitfaced trying to fight, but passed out. OP took his brother back to grandma and when she tried bitching at OP he lashed back at her for spoiling him rotten and letting him blame OP for his crimes, and that if had been the case of him fancying OP's girlfriend she probably would have insisted on OP breaking with her so his brother could date her instead.
I was supposed to be doing some chores before bed, but I was so invested in OP's story🤣. Oh, well. It was so worth it! Glad that OP had a happy ending and got rid of the toxic gram and bro. Those two really deserve each other. Legends say that OP's grandmother and brother are still driving each other bat crazy
Get a portable Blue Tooth speaker. I did and now I happily wander about the house washing the dishes, brushing my teeth, doing laundry or whatever and still listen to my favorite RUclipsrs.
22:07, HIS TRAUMA's? what the hell kind of trauma did he Receive while everything was given to him and you were treated like a Punching bag for everything HE DID WRONG? Survivors Guilt?
I've heard the story before and to be honest he should have cut them off years ago. He wants his parents love and accepting so badly that he's basically telling them you need to do the same thing that you did to me as a child to my brother now as an adult. You want him to suffer the same way you suffered under the hands of your parents and they're obvious favoritism. If I were you I was just let them sink and figure it out for themselves. I get it you want your brother to figure out on his own but you really are the type of person that should have went no contact the moment it was obvious. Using your money as a way to get your parents to respect you it's not the way to go about it especially if they created this mess and don't want to clean it up for themselves but want to use your money as a way of getting themselves out of it
@@Alberto-wu1mj do if you're having to use your money as a way to force your parents to stop doing the enabling of favoritism and to basically do to the child that they favored over you for years just so you can get that treatment from them and making your brother suffer because of your parents' choices what does it say about you. I would have just went no contact and did my own thing.
@@Myelllie thank you my point exactly they cost the behavior they enabled it for years and the child that they basically ignored and overlooked and neglected is basically telling them you're going to do the same thing to my brother that you did to me and disown him or you're going to basically be home with and struggling in your golden years. The dude should have cut contact with his parents the moment he turned 18 but he is so desperate for mommy and daddy's love he's using his money just to get it. And I guarantee it these parents are desperate and they're willing to cut off their Golden child that they enabled for years instead of just saying you know what we messed up let's get ourselves out of the situation and then deal with our sons later. The dude wants his brother to suffer the way he suffered at his parents failings
@@BIGEAGLEDUDE What story where your listening to because No OP didn't Op had one completely reasonable demand. Don't let his propose at my wedding. Everything else? That was the parents on their own and the brother being a drama queen about reasonable requests. The brother choose to torpedo his already failing relationship OP out right told him no and he kept going that on brother. The parents raised the rent on their own OP never asked them to. The brother choose to leave rather than pay the increase rent OP never told him to. Grandma is a crazy manipulative AH who turned her AHlery on brother when he went to live with her that not on OP. So pleas tell me what OP did wrong other than no goign NC years ago. Or are you one of these people who accuses abuse victims of destroying their abusers lives by reporting what was done to them.
I LOVE THE FULL STORY!! Very dramatic and mind blowing about the things that went down!! Congratulations on the fact that your parents are finally seeing things clearly, on your beautiful wedding, fun honeymoon and good luck for a wonderful marriage!!
17:30 If this is the U.S. it won't impact the taxes he pays. Any one person is allowed to give any one other person up to US$16,000 in a calendar year without affecting the taxes of either party. So OP could give up to US$16,000 to his mother and US$16,000 to his father. (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer)
A thirty year old man still living with Mommy and Daddy, then with grandmother. And he wonders why his girlfriend refuses to marry him, she didn't want to support his sorry ass.
To think all of this started with a petulant man child being being unable to accept a fair and reasonable “no”. He asked, and he got an answer. The brother should have stopped while he was ahead!
OP: Congratulations. Your sacrifices and determination to keep your moral compass pointed properly, over those long years, has struck gold for you. Your efforts have obviously not gone in vain and its seems like you have made your life (and family, excepting the man-child) a much better group. Kudos to you!!
You do not propose to someone at someone else’s wedding unless it’s okayed by the bride and groom why do people keep trying to do this? It’s tacky. It’s the bride and grooms day. Let them have it.🤬
Wait? Did the enabling parents actually go through a redemption ark? Omg this is incredible I’ve never seen that before on Reddit. It’s great that OP might have a shot of a relationship with parents again
OMG(I know it is over used but in this situation OMFG) The story where OP's brother wanted to propose to his GF at OP's wedding & OP put the kibosh on it was great! OP's grandmother & the brother are awful toxic people & the best part is OP's parents apologizing to him for being crap parents. The craziest part is when the grandmother gaslights OP to his fiance luckily the fiance knew better & didn't question OP about that insane GM's crap!!! I just don't understand how OP's gm could be such an awful person & gm! My grandma was the best & even after almost 20 yrs since she passed not a day goes by that I don't think about her & all the amazing things times & moments we shared!! I'm so sorry OP that your gm is nothing but a self centered c**t
Very interesting story and hopefully your grandmother and brother get to learn that they're the problem. Your brother seems to already be getting there.
Story #1: NTA!! I bet if the parents died today, the brother gets everything. Stop giving them money. Between three grown ass people, they should be able to pay the bills.
Smart girl and it’s not OP fault that his brother and his girlfriend broke up, his brother needs to grow up. He’s not a five-year-old anymore. He’s a full grown adult act like one get a job even a part-time job.
INFO: was grandma the OP’s Mom’s Mom? I’m assuming that is the relationship. As, OP’s Dad seems a bit removed from the situation. Please feel free to correct me!
She tried to break them up because she wanted her favorite grandson to be married first just because he was older no wonder why she was so adamant about it, how would OP’s brother feel about it if it was reversed I don’t think he would be cool with it
This is the song that doesn't end. It goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. They'll continue singing it forever because This is the song that doesn't end.......
I can just imagine OP and wife telling this story to OP’s kids and then grandkids when they are old enough to ask whatever happened to their uncle. It will be more entertaining than any blockbuster movie released.
So parents supported golden child proposing at his brother's wedding until he threatened to cut them off financially, brother left when he was going to be charged rent. Grandma tells OP's fiance things to leave him so brother can get married first, shows up as wedding she was uninvited and turned back around. Brother sends a letter blaming OP because he didn't get his way and his girlfriend left him anyway. The proposal was going to be all for naught anyway Am I the only one getting supervillain origin story here? To say this story was a rollercoaster is an understatement!
Surprise proposals at someone else's wedding is quite often a Nightmare to the person being proposed to.
It's likely the proposer wants to do in front of family and friends in hopes that the proposee will feel too embarrassed to say no. From what brother said to OP, it's obvious that was brother's motivation. Unfortunately for him, GF was not going to play that game to his satisfaction.
This was nauseating. A 30 year old man having so much clout in the family and that from his early years. He went bawling to grandma about being asked to pay a reasonable rent and that stupid biddy took him in. Tough on her cause he’ll use her for her money and drop her like a sack of sht when she’s too old to care for herself and has signed the house over to him. His attempt at an apology was pathetic but to be expected cause he was never made to take responsibility for anything because the blame was always put on op. What a crappy brother. I don’t care how you’re raised, if you don’t have empathy for your siblings and take evil pleasure in seeing them hurt and punished due to your misdeeds, you’re garbage.
How lazy can you be to use someone else's set up? That's all that is.
@@debl3063 Plus isn't a sever breach of ediqute to purpose at someone else's wedding, birthday party, engagement party, baby shouwer, or funeral, without that person''s expressed permission. Which cleaerly to brother in this story did *NOT* have. Und the brother's girlfriend made it quite clear that no matter *WHERE* or *WHEN* he purposed that she'd say no to him.
Icold thensee the OP's brother go running to grandma about how "unfair" it was that he purposed to his girlfriend at his baby brother's wedding, ruining it for him und she still said no to him.
In this case it was a cynical attempt at manipulation. He was counting on her being too embarrassed to turn him down.
Wow. That grandmother is a real piece of work
I have heard this story so many times now, but it never seems to get old. It has everything, drama, an OP with a shiny spine who gets the happy ending he deserves, the crappy people getting what they deserve, and OP's parents who he loves actually seeing the error of their ways and becoming better parents to both adult kids. Enabling your adult kid is actually harmful and definitely not doing him any favors. This is a great story. I wish people got what they deserved more often.
“OP's parents who he loves actually seeing the error of their ways and becoming better parents”
This part of the story was most surprising to me, because of how rare it is for parents with a favorite child to change their ways.
Parents actually understand they screwed up with their golden child and are learning to change? I'm in shock. Don't think I've heard a reddit story like this before! 🤣
It feels SO good though, no?
@@yesterdayitrained …Reddit has made me cynical. LOL My knee jerk reaction was “must be fake”
…I’m gonna go watch a Pixar movie.
@@MemristerBoogieDown 🤣🤣🤣
"They say" People "say" a lot of things.
My guess Grandma the one who has been Golden Childing/Scape Goating the grand children and Mom and Dad went along with it because she'd cut off financial support (The parents clearly terrible with finances I'm sure they've need help before) and they've just realized that now she retired OP is the new cash cow. The attitude swap is just too sudden for me to think otherwise. Most Golden Child Scape Goat parents call the "bluff" at least till it's clear its not a bluff. Add to that doormat Mom suddenly exploding in the update.
"My Grandma went mental."
There's a classic line.
I enjoyed this story more than anything I've seen on Netflix in years. Loved the updates!!!!
I agree. Much more engaging than the most recent Rom Com on Netflix
@@Alberto-wu1mj agreed! Couldn’t have written this better once we heard grandma flipped out beating up cops at the wedding & is in a Psych Hospital lol 😂
They took Grandma to a psych ward. That’s the only place after three days you can get a visitor. They took her for a psycho valuation, and then took her to jail. That is hilarious.
5150?
My grandmother (mother's mom) despised my brother and I. She thought my parents should have only had two children, and we were #3 and #4. She was mean and flat out vicious to us. Luckily, neither of us cared. The oldest two were the only ones who got any "love" from her, but it wasn't much and didn't save them from her wrath completely.
Sounds more like she hated that your parents didn't listen to her.
@MrBeevee5 - maybe. But she took it out on my brother and I. We pretty much ignored her, other than the mandatory "respect your elders" thing
@@demondogmom7221 Yeah, no point to setting yourself on fire to keep her warm.
Oh wow!! I’m amazed that after all the mistreatment OP is so level headed and well adjusted. I’m also amazed that his parents actually realized they were wrong. Good for OP for being able to forgive his parents and still let them in his life. What a roller coaster ride! Thanks for sharing.
Grandma is worse than the brother... not that much but still. And his "mix of apologies and blaming me" with the update. 😂😂😂
The grandmother is the "cause" of the enabling of the brother, the parents unfortunately realised too late about the "training" they got from grandma to "enable" the elder son.(not giving parents a pass on it though) It was only op's threat to withdraw the support that loosened the blinkers about the brother.
Love these long stories, brother and grandma are so self absorbed
Love having updates on these stories, thank you 💐
Oh shit.
I remember this story. The last update is truly insane.
The brother is truly an AH and the grandmother only has herself to blame. She’s just a AH
And he wasn’t getting engaged no matter what lol
Brother seems like he's getting help, but gma is a POS.
@@GiordanDiodato true. But he still can’t take full responsibility
@@GiordanDiodato I disagree, his "apology" was a half-arsed attempt because he saw that he was no longer being treated as the "golden child." Und he disperatly wanted the spotlight back on himself.
Story 1: Let's flip it. This girlfriend is unhappy for some reason. She's thinking about leaving. Then her boyfriend proposes to her at a wedding. Not only is she unlikely to say yes, she's likely to say no a way where I can't decide if it's good or bad that there are plenty of witnesses. If his relationship is in trouble, fix it in private, and don't depend on someone else's event for the assist.
And really if the brother put as much effort into making his girlfriend happy as he does to hounding OP, maybe he wouldn't be in this mess.
Proposing to save your relationship is as dumb as having a baby to save your marriage.
This. Why, just why do narcissists put such a hellish amount of time and energy throwing a fit to get their way when if they used that energy towards actually getting what they want the proper way it would be faster and easier on them and everyone else. Smh.🙄
The brother wanted to do a Baseball Game 7th inning proposal on the Big Screen and Telecast. "She'll have to say yes. It would be too embarrassing to say no". She says no. They figure the audience witnessing the proposal will scare her into submittance.
1. Brother wants to trap the girlfriend into saying yes. The girlfriend knew he was a bum. But wow, this was the neverending story.
Heard this one before. It must have been freaking sweet for OP to finally rain Hellfire on his enabling parents and Golden Child brother! But I'm so glad he's cut off Grandma forever, she's a freaking monster. Hilarious that she and Golden Boy finally turned on each other! I hope OP continues to kick arse and chew bubblegum!
I remember hearing about one part of this story before all of the updates and thinking how maybe the grandma was treating the older grandson like her do-over baby.
Glad to hear that everything got sorted in the end:
• girlfriend of older bro found out and dumped his butt.
• older bro is finally becoming an adult now that he doesn't have anybody enabling him.
• parents have seen the light using to enable either grandma or the son anymore.
• OP had a proposal free wedding and seems to be doing well
Out of the 100s of XO storys I have listened to, this has to be the best one yet. I hope XO has more like this one.
This was the best thread I have ever heard 👏👏👏 here’s to you op 🍾🍺🥃🍸🍶🍻🥂. Congratulations on cutting out the cancer. Hopefully your brother grows up and apologizes
I remember seeing this story somewhere and man is it a crazy wild ride. Then again I guess most of us just live for the drama in these Reddit stories.
Or if you're lucky, realize what a great family you have!
@@Nancy-xg9nc Or realize just how crappy your Family of Origin really was/is and go NC.
@@bunnyslippers191 That too.🙁
If you afraid your girlfriends, gonna leave, you proposing to her is not really going to help. Why don’t you find a nice space something she likes and proposed to her that way.
Update 2, Feel sorry that your brother's EX found out from Reddit, but it feels reassuring that SHE TO would have ruined his plan to Propose at your wedding as well. Likely would have made YOUR DAY if he did try proposing and she Screamed Infront of Grandma, and ALL FAMILY "F NO". would have served him right for going against the wishes of both the Bride and the Groom.
That the brother thought he could repair the bridges he burned, with a “sorry, not sorry” letter. 😂
The reason grandma lashed out at op brother is that she needs someone to blame. Since op is no longer available to blame she focused on the brother.
That...saga may be the best Reddit story I've heard in a year. Very entertaining. Screw you, Grandma.
Weddings are not the place for someone else to propose.
This is one of the better stories lately!
Good on OP for getting all the detritus out of his life. His parents have learned their lesson; the trash, in the forms of his brother and grandmother, have taken themselves out; and OP and fiance have a bright future ahead of them.
I like you doing a whole story with all of the updates! Thank you, great work as usual!
Okay this is the best story I’ve heard. I know that my statement will be controversial, but I’m glad that it happened for both OP and his parents. Because otherwise, the parents nor OP would have ever been happy with the brother and grandmother in their lives.
Now the parents are renting to tenants that will enable them to pay off the second mortgage and the brother is having to live on his own instead of leaching or mooching off his family. Also OP and his parents have learned not to cave into the emotional blackmail from the brother and grandmother. One a side note they’ve also learned that grandmother needs someone to scapegoat or bully. Discovering that piece of her personality will keep them from slowly sliding back into familiarity of letting her get away with stuff.
I don't think anyone has to worry about golden child brother once grandma is gone. Grammy will no doubt leave everything to "her favorite grandson". Of course, once he wastes whatever money he gets and then has to sell grandma's house, spends THAT money, he'll be in deep doodoo
@@rolandhansen812 That'd be bro's best-case scenario. Bro has few expenses, certainly never paid back any of the money borrowed on his behalf. He just absolutely won't help anyone else. Who knows what grandma will do with a will. My bet would be her either leaving no paperwork and everyone struggling thru probate for years or, being spiteful, donate her house to some charity so no one in the family could have it.
Oh man, when op's brother apologized in the letter, i was beginning to think that maybe, maybe there was some shred of a chance he'd actually grow to be a proper person. But no such luck. Oh well.
There's an update missing from this story which I think happened before the wedding, basically OP's brother came over to his house absolutely shitfaced trying to fight, but passed out. OP took his brother back to grandma and when she tried bitching at OP he lashed back at her for spoiling him rotten and letting him blame OP for his crimes, and that if had been the case of him fancying OP's girlfriend she probably would have insisted on OP breaking with her so his brother could date her instead.
Might've been skipped for time, they usually only have half-hour videos.
I was supposed to be doing some chores before bed, but I was so invested in OP's story🤣. Oh, well. It was so worth it! Glad that OP had a happy ending and got rid of the toxic gram and bro. Those two really deserve each other.
Legends say that OP's grandmother and brother are still driving each other bat crazy
Get a portable Blue Tooth speaker. I did and now I happily wander about the house washing the dishes, brushing my teeth, doing laundry or whatever and still listen to my favorite RUclipsrs.
@@crichtonbruce4329 Thx. I'll do that next time☺️ my old one broke some time ago so it's time to get a new one one
22:07, HIS TRAUMA's? what the hell kind of trauma did he Receive while everything was given to him and you were treated like a Punching bag for everything HE DID WRONG? Survivors Guilt?
I've heard the story before and to be honest he should have cut them off years ago. He wants his parents love and accepting so badly that he's basically telling them you need to do the same thing that you did to me as a child to my brother now as an adult. You want him to suffer the same way you suffered under the hands of your parents and they're obvious favoritism. If I were you I was just let them sink and figure it out for themselves. I get it you want your brother to figure out on his own but you really are the type of person that should have went no contact the moment it was obvious. Using your money as a way to get your parents to respect you it's not the way to go about it especially if they created this mess and don't want to clean it up for themselves but want to use your money as a way of getting themselves out of it
I dont think it is that simple. Sometimes it takes years to get to this point with family.
@@Alberto-wu1mj do if you're having to use your money as a way to force your parents to stop doing the enabling of favoritism and to basically do to the child that they favored over you for years just so you can get that treatment from them and making your brother suffer because of your parents' choices what does it say about you. I would have just went no contact and did my own thing.
Why isn't the brother paying back the money the parents owe for his education?? Whether he graduated or not HE should be helping them.
@@Myelllie thank you my point exactly they cost the behavior they enabled it for years and the child that they basically ignored and overlooked and neglected is basically telling them you're going to do the same thing to my brother that you did to me and disown him or you're going to basically be home with and struggling in your golden years. The dude should have cut contact with his parents the moment he turned 18 but he is so desperate for mommy and daddy's love he's using his money just to get it. And I guarantee it these parents are desperate and they're willing to cut off their Golden child that they enabled for years instead of just saying you know what we messed up let's get ourselves out of the situation and then deal with our sons later. The dude wants his brother to suffer the way he suffered at his parents failings
@@BIGEAGLEDUDE What story where your listening to because No OP didn't Op had one completely reasonable demand. Don't let his propose at my wedding.
Everything else? That was the parents on their own and the brother being a drama queen about reasonable requests.
The brother choose to torpedo his already failing relationship OP out right told him no and he kept going that on brother.
The parents raised the rent on their own OP never asked them to.
The brother choose to leave rather than pay the increase rent OP never told him to.
Grandma is a crazy manipulative AH who turned her AHlery on brother when he went to live with her that not on OP.
So pleas tell me what OP did wrong other than no goign NC years ago.
Or are you one of these people who accuses abuse victims of destroying their abusers lives by reporting what was done to them.
I've heard the beginning of this story a few times but it was great to hear the whole thing!
You are RIGHT, also stop giving parents money!! You owe them nothing!!
This was the best story! I LOVE when you do updates! 🥰
I LOVE THE FULL STORY!! Very dramatic and mind blowing about the things that went down!! Congratulations on the fact that your parents are finally seeing things clearly, on your beautiful wedding, fun honeymoon and good luck for a wonderful marriage!!
17:30 If this is the U.S. it won't impact the taxes he pays. Any one person is allowed to give any one other person up to US$16,000 in a calendar year without affecting the taxes of either party. So OP could give up to US$16,000 to his mother and US$16,000 to his father. (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer)
This whole story was insane! I was hooked till the end.
Fabulous to have these updates on a story I heard a while back. Thank you!
Timestamps: Update 1: 3:35 Update 2: 6:14 Update 3: 10:23 Update 4: 14:30 Final Update: 17:56
CRAW- FISH!!! Lol... I also love these stories with full updates
A thirty year old man still living with Mommy and Daddy, then with grandmother. And he wonders why his girlfriend refuses to marry him, she didn't want to support his sorry ass.
To think all of this started with a petulant man child being being unable to accept a fair and reasonable “no”. He asked, and he got an answer. The brother should have stopped while he was ahead!
this is straight up movie-worthy. what a ride!
Best XO story to date! More of these please!
Lol the letter he sent. What tramas? This whole story tells about how he was the golden and favorite child what traumas could he have possibly had
Love the stories with updates
OP: Congratulations. Your sacrifices and determination to keep your moral compass pointed properly, over those long years, has struck gold for you. Your efforts have obviously not gone in vain and its seems like you have made your life (and family, excepting the man-child) a much better group. Kudos to you!!
That was the best XO Story I've heard in years!
I thoroughly enjoyed this tale and am thankful that life improved for the OP. 🙂🌷
This is like a Mexican telenovela!! One that I would watch! 😂😂
Crazy, insane people!
You do not propose to someone at someone else’s wedding unless it’s okayed by the bride and groom why do people keep trying to do this? It’s tacky. It’s the bride and grooms day. Let them have it.🤬
I know- I just don’t get it. I know if someone else asked to propose at these people’s weddings, of course they’d say no!
Thank goodness all the updates were in one vid. I was sooo invested! Thank you!
Oh, thank you so much for an absolutely epic tale of monumental proportions!🤯
Hey XO Stories. I loved this one where you gave the final out come on the first story. Thank you very much.
I love updates!
"...just keeps on giving." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm dying!
Oh wow! What a rollercoaster!
This was so good!
I wonder how long Grandma will coddle brother lol
Im so happy that i have a stable family. I love my bro, parents and grandparents
I love these stories with updates.
I want to see this as a Hallmark movie. There must be some months they aren't showing Christmas movies.
I would love to see that!
Love stories with updates as I am always curious to know what happened 😃
After they get in the limo for the honeymoon, then someone can propose to someone
Wowzer. What a story!
This story was amazing!
Wait? Did the enabling parents actually go through a redemption ark? Omg this is incredible I’ve never seen that before on Reddit. It’s great that OP might have a shot of a relationship with parents again
OMG(I know it is over used but in this situation OMFG) The story where OP's brother wanted to propose to his GF at OP's wedding & OP put the kibosh on it was great! OP's grandmother & the brother are awful toxic people & the best part is OP's parents apologizing to him for being crap parents. The craziest part is when the grandmother gaslights OP to his fiance luckily the fiance knew better & didn't question OP about that insane GM's crap!!! I just don't understand how OP's gm could be such an awful person & gm! My grandma was the best & even after almost 20 yrs since she passed not a day goes by that I don't think about her & all the amazing things times & moments we shared!! I'm so sorry OP that your gm is nothing but a self centered c**t
At this point if they come to the wedding they will destroy it. Hire security and keep them out.
Whenever grandma started with the classic "I don't understand why..." OP should have snapped back with "wow grandma, you must be really stupid then".
The husband’s reaction felt so real, you could feel his anger building up.
XO losing the slightest bit of composure at 8:35 and 19:57 makes me laugh sm XD
What a crazy story omg. What a nutty grandma and brother
Very interesting story and hopefully your grandmother and brother get to learn that they're the problem. Your brother seems to already be getting there.
Wowza! That story was a ride!
Ever the passive doormat😂😂
This could be made into a lifetime movie.
What a RIDE!!!!, this story had more twists and turns than a rollercoaster😵💫😆😵💫😆, it sure was entertaining!!!
“Brother said he’s boycotting the wedding”
Don’t threaten me with a good time
Loved the inclusion of all the updates!
Loving the long stories with updates XO
Story #1: NTA!! I bet if the parents died today, the brother gets everything. Stop giving them money. Between three grown ass people, they should be able to pay the bills.
Glorious!
Smart girl and it’s not OP fault that his brother and his girlfriend broke up, his brother needs to grow up. He’s not a five-year-old anymore. He’s a full grown adult act like one get a job even a part-time job.
Each time I hear this story, I giggle a little more.
That was quite the saga
INFO: was grandma the OP’s Mom’s Mom? I’m assuming that is the relationship. As, OP’s Dad seems a bit removed from the situation. Please feel free to correct me!
I think maternal was mentioned so yes.
Okay, this was the wildest and best story I ever heard.
She tried to break them up because she wanted her favorite grandson to be married first just because he was older no wonder why she was so adamant about it, how would OP’s brother feel about it if it was reversed I don’t think he would be cool with it
Grandma would demand OP let the brother have his day and not propose
Damn. That whole saga. It was a mood in itself...
They need to make a movie of this and make Zach Galifianakis to play OPs brother.
This is the song that doesn't end. It goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was. They'll continue singing it forever because This is the song that doesn't end.......
Parents changed their tune so that not to get cut financially by OP
I’m loving the end 🙌🏽👌🏽♥️
I can just imagine OP and wife telling this story to OP’s kids and then grandkids when they are old enough to ask whatever happened to their uncle. It will be more entertaining than any blockbuster movie released.
So parents supported golden child proposing at his brother's wedding until he threatened to cut them off financially, brother left when he was going to be charged rent.
Grandma tells OP's fiance things to leave him so brother can get married first, shows up as wedding she was uninvited and turned back around.
Brother sends a letter blaming OP because he didn't get his way and his girlfriend left him anyway. The proposal was going to be all for naught anyway
Am I the only one getting supervillain origin story here?
To say this story was a rollercoaster is an understatement!
Story 1: OP NTA: My attitude would be, brother, what brother? In fact I'd be saying that to the parents and grand parent if I'm being honnest!
This is one of my all time fav Reddit stories 😊😂