Making clay look like cardboard
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//THE ORIGINAL ARTIST
Jacques Monneraud
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In this week's Steal like an Artist video, I tried to recreate the work by the amazing ceramic artist Jacques Monneraud. His cardboard illusion pottery is truly mindblowing, so let's all LOL at me trying to work with precision, and in the end succeed, maybe.
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Have you seen the other artist that basically actually makes corrugated cardboard out of clay and hand builds things and then tears them so they look so real. He makes mug and coasters and boxes. They look so real.
His name is Tim Kowalczyk
Yes! Tim is the expert of cardboard ceramics. He was there before Jack.
Yes I saw his work too! He is also great :)
I think the biggest difference is the intentional damage that Tim (@TimsCeramcis) does to make it look like old used cardboard. VS Jacks's Neat cardboard. I also have to point out the construction methods are very different as Tim's method actually builds "cardboard" structure out of multiple layers of thin (Think Paper clay) to allow for rips.
Tim Kowalczyk did an exhibition in the art center where I do pottery in central Illinois @mcacbloomington. His work is amazing and very realistic up close! I immediately thought of him when I saw your video!
He’s the OG! Love Tim’s work!
That "oh no this is the wrong way, cardboard wouldn't fold like that" moment is SO COOL, it feels like it's the whole point of the exercise of using a material to mimetise another, to see how it functions and study the differences between them, the limitations of each one etc. Amazing work!
Edit: even the places with the seams and the smushing at the corrugated edges works like actual cardboard would, it adds to the realism of it
Thank you! ❤️
Yay! Beautifully illustrating the concept of "transformation of material"!
A funny thing is, that I have made camera models out of cardboard. They're not working, but that might be the next step.
No way. You're clearly pulling our leg. You swapped those with identical cardboard replicas when we weren't looking, right? great job!! I am in LOVE this this project. And you are right, the imperfections, *chefs kiss* - makes it look more authentic.
haha thank you so much!
Art inspires art. We all learn from each other
for sure ❤️
@@PotterytothePeople I just found your channel and am thinking of taking some classes in town. I make little polymer things and air dry but want to make some usable stuff as well. I've enjoyed your personality and style. 💖
YEARS ago I saw this ceramic mug that looked knitted and it's lived rent free in my head ever since. I love this!
that technique is actually pretty easy. Knit a "mug" out of 100% cotton and dip it into liquid clay. When you fire, the cotton burns away and you're just left with the outer shell.
Oh? That's fun. I thought they'd just pressed the knit into the clay, but I can't remember if it was reversed like an imprint. Maybe why it lives in my head 😂 it was definitely a very neat and regular overall shape, not sagging like knit would, so extra steps were involved I'm sure
@@krisCrashTV yeah i did that in a college ceramics class. if we wanted the shape to be full, we would fill the structure with paper that would also burn away in the firing. but i have seen people do it in some other ways as well.
I think emulating another artist is a great way to learn. If you're not passing it off as your own original idea or faking their work, as it were, then I don't see a problem with it. As you point out that's how people are taught.
And how am I only just finding out you crochet too!? I potter and crochet!
hehe awesome! I crochet but only for fun :)
Yeah, I feel like using another person's style is perfectly ok. You aren't copying their art itself but using the style such as using a drawing style.
absolutely!! i think the idea that it's "bad" to copy someone else's art and styles comes mostly from younger generations in the digital art community, in which art theft has always been a huge problem. but i think it's extremely important to remember that sometimes, it is a very valuable technique to help learn!
They’re still profiting from the other artist’s work via this content, it doesn’t matter if they plan to sell the work or not. If they don’t get permission beforehand it’s IP theft.
@@brandonkerr160No they aren't? They're making their own work inspired by an existing artist. If wearing your inspiration on your sleeve was theft, no art would exist without being theft. We walk on the shoulders of giants until the next generation comes along and walks on ours.
I had the chance to see (and touch!) his work in Paris. My brain was having the hardest time because I was "seeing" cardboard but it "felt" heavy like clay. It's so strange and even more of an impressive feat in person!
Amazing job recreating Jacques' work and thank you for all your work on this channel, as a new hobbyist it's super helpful ❤
soo amazing you got to see them!! 😍
WOW WOW WOW! I love the color change that makes it look like dirty cardboard. What a cool piece
Thanks so much 😊
As someone with cats, who love cardboard, I see a lot of fresh and then worn out cardboard. This totally looks like an in-between phase. Great work!
I'm also excited to go check out the other two cardboard ceramic artists. Thank you!
"i wish i made this on a bat" - no sentence is more relatable
hahaha
That’s so true. I started making everything bats for the very reason.
and after she says that doesnt decide to use one for the other pieces
i've seen him and his work the other week at a ceramic's market in paris. i wasn't brave enough to ask if i could touch them, but just looking at them in real life was already crazy enough - and i love your version, especially what the firing has done to it's colour!
Wow, how cool! I'd love to see his work in person 😍
I also was at that market, and I did get to manipulate the pieces, it is very crazy.
Beautiful 😍
I was in Paris at the Ceramic fair in Saint Sulpice on June 21st. I had been following him on instagram. I not only got to meet him but scored a beautiful piece. The pieces were flying off the shelves and I told him he’d likely be out of stock on the first day!!
love these steal like an artist videos! They really embody the joy of exploring the craft where you can surprise yourself with what you can do! All the best and looking forward to the next challenges
yay! I am enjoying doing them :)
there's nothing wrong with recreating art someone else has made as long as you're not trying to sell it as yours/pass it off as original. It's a great way to learn, it's fun to do, and it's a great way to connect to artists who we admire.
Now that is COOL! I have had to work with a lot of cardboard and.... the only thing to make it look 'realer' would be using some translucent glaze to give it stains along the bottom (from sitting in water), a few fake staples/staple holes, and a partial company logo (I would make a linoleum stamp, paint on opaque white glaze, let that dry and then use a stamp(s) to built a partial 'label', all to make it look more like reused cardboard.
I love how the stamped parts that got squished a little by accident now look like actual cardboard thats been knocked around
When you say “steal like an artist” I don’t know if you’re referencing just the phrase or the book. I had to reread the book over and over when I was in college for animation and it definitely turned my view on not just only other peoples’ ideas but also mine! Learning from others, and understanding how concepts come up and will be reused-all of that! I highly appreciate you taking on this project, especially since I personally struggled with the crafts like clay, but also because of you explaining why you do this! It’s encouraging to younger/newer artists who worry about their work being “bad” and compare themselves to the great artists, not knowing how they can learn from them and creating their own style! You did amazing with this project, you really gave it the cardboard illusion, it is super cool!
You made this with your own hands, it is yours. This is how art works - you see something, make it, and then make it again in a way that is your own.
I know there is a lot of discourse around it theft in art, but what you did here is in no way theft - it’s inspiration- and that’s how art works.
What I love about a good recipe or formula is that sometimes when all the layers come together it’s a huge surprise. Sort of feels like the result is a gift you didn’t know you were making for yourself. It’s a good feeling. You did pull it off. Well done.
wow that is so well said! exactly right.
My brain cannot compute how that must feel in your hands, I can't imagine it feeling like anything other than cardboard.
Love your videos! I have been OBSESSED with Ruth Borgenicht. I know the work is time consuming. But the result seems so incredible. The sound of all the components making one piece, and the tactility. I wish i could touch all her pieces and play with them. If you are up for the time commitment she would be a great steal like an artist addition. She does lots of videos about her process on ig. Keep up the great work. Love learning from other artists!
I'm in love! As someone that spend a good part of their 20s building things out of corrugated cardboard (like a life sized double bass) and learned to use ArtiosCAD to gain knowledge of how cardboard folds, never have I seen ceramics I want more than this.
Absolutely well done and thank you for introducing me to the work of Jaques Monneraud and, through the comment section, Tim Kowalczyk!
An idea for another artist you could steal from is Jim Fazio, aka ceramicjim. He throws with different colored clay and the results are pretty interesting!
They turned out great. As functional pieces though, getting liquid stuck in the corrugation holes would drive me crazy.
Did you consider doing tests for the glaze?
I would have but I didnt have time for when I wanted to publish the video 😅 Youre right i think they are rather conceptual than functional 🙃
Something that I love about learning like this is recreating something really makes you appreciate how much work and dedication the original artist had to make the things they do. It just really makes you respect the work even more when you’ve been through it yourself
Just discovered your channel through this video and I'm already in love with this series. I don't do pottery but as a painter I love to dissect and attempt to mimic other artists styles, it's such a big part of how we learn. You did a great job on this one and the imperfections really help sell the illusion
The imperfections only made this more perfect!! I really love it when people get so creative with their craft
They came out fabulously! A wonderful homage
I really like the colour of the clay you're using on this one, especially early on when you're just rolling it out. It's such a rich brown! Wild how it lightens up so much by the end and really turns that yellow-brown cardboardy colour.
I'm stunned. You did an amazing job. You made it look doable.
Thank you! 😊
8:30 IDEA: if the stamping downs work, maybe try a triangular metal tube, push it in then cover the end and pull out the triangular core, then have a solid stamp to push in, another alternative, is to make a wheel out of wood or something that does the same diff.
It's crazy how much work goes into making clay look like such a regular mundane material people use every day! Great job
they look AMAZING
❤️❤️❤️
Your reaction to the end result is sooo wonderful! You must be so proud of yourself - these pieces are phenomenal 🎉❤
This is gorgeous!!!! Tim K’s work is amazing. The way he uses transfers and decals is just amazing.
This is so cool! It’s wonderful to reverse engineer a work of art and then make your own in on it. It’s like you said, it’s a way to learn something new about the process and your own work. A few ceramic artists I’ve recently learned of whose works are cool include: Yoonjee Kwak, Shino Takeda, Emma Kaye, Maggie Boyd, The Kondō Family of Ceramicists, and Lisa Conrad.
Beautiful! Thank you for recreating these 🙏🏼
Love this series. Would love to see you tackle Sarah Pike Pottery next! Handbuilding with texture stamps ❤
It's interesting to know that the material you are actually working to make is known as "Corrugated Paper Board." Cardboard is technically paper pulp that is pressed into a solid board (or cardstock).
Omg those turn out absolutely insane! I totally agree! All of the little deformations and inconsistencies make them look more like real used cardboard. You killed this project 💯💯💯
They look SO GREAT! I was kinda hoping you would put just normal tape on the seams so we could see how it would have looked like with that glaze illusion.
I Think doing these is a great exercise - its like trying to draw a picture in another artists style, with the included disclaimers that that is exactly what you’re doing- its so helpful to your own art to push outside the boundaries of what YOU would do, to try to come at things from another artists perspective and methods! I think you did a great job on these, I don’t even work in clay myself (outside a few air dry pieces) but now i want to play around with it just watching how much fun you’re having with it :3c
Impressive! Never seen his work before but you’ve showcased him perfectly. Thanks Mia. Et chapeau, Jaques.
The amount of detail in his art is just amazing.
I took ceramics in my last 2 years of high school. I LOVED it. It was that class I looked forward to everyday. We had assignments here and there and when we did, they were easy, but for the most part we could be creative. I knew where everything was and how to do things. I never wasted time fooling around. I never needed help. I totally miss being in that class. Ceramics was such a therapeutic class. I wish I could take a class now as an adult or just be able to be creative like I did but at home. Let me know if you have any tips.
I love this! It's so cool!! Well done!
You totally smashed it! Fantastic.
Yay, thank you!
This attempt was amazing! You've done beautiful work!
You already framed it fine. You've made it clear whos work it is and I respect that. I also totally agree you learn more from trying to work out how something was done.
Tbh i had no interest in watching ppl make/talk about pottery until i randomly found that video of you making the giant bead lizard, now im obsessed!
This is my first time visiting your channel after seeing this pop up on my recommended for a week or so. I’ve never seen the original artists work, but as someone without that comparison in mind, I just want to tell you how incredible you did! I think the “imperfections” make it even more convincing. I’ll definitely check out Jacques work (thanks to YOU!), but I just needed to tell you that you’ve done a wonderful job!
This is amazing!!! You knocked it out of the park!!!!! Kudos to you!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
that is so cool! I'm really glad it turned out in the end. It definitely felt like a "trust the process" kind of project til the very end and omg it turned out so cool!
The color made SUCH a difference!!!
I work with cardboard for living and I like how your project came out. It is not as accurate as the reference but it gets its own charm. Thumbs up!
I think this is the first pottery video I've ever watch, have to say this is really cool!! Also the cups could totally be fraternal twins, they got the vibes :3
That was truly amazing to watch your process even if you were recreating someone's work. I definitely didn't expect it and I'm glad to have stumbled upon you. Thank you so much for sharing, truly amazing work.
When I took an oil painting class, one of our big assignments was to recreate a piece by a famous artist. I chose a piece from Van Gogh's Sunflowers series (specifically the 3rd, also known as the Munich version, with 12 sunflowers). I learned so much about oil painting from recreating this masterpiece, it was a hugely fulfilling process (Van Gogh and his works, especially his Sunflowers, resonate strongly with me) and I have it hanging in my kitchen to this day. Every time I look at it it brings me happiness. They say imitation is the greatest form of flattery! There is so much to be learned from walking in the footsteps of others.
Oh my gosh. The squished bits just make it so much more real! The look like the cardboard of my moving boxes 📦 ❤
I am so impressed! Well Done!
Wow, those turned out amazingly well!
The play on materiality is so cool!! And WOOOOW they look so convincing after the firing! Somehow the blushing makes it look like wet cardboard with the coloration hahahaha You should make a clay project that looks like the crochet you make haha
Amazing!!!! My jaw dropped when it came out of the kiln.
wow, you did an amazing job and i learned so much from you learning from jacques! well done!
i've just found your channel and this is the first video i've seen from you, and i'm already hooked! i absolutely love the video style, and the final product looked insanely cool! excited to watch more :D
as a knitter and crocheter, what immediately went through my mind when you were talking about being nervous about whether the "tape" would work, was "swatch it." Would that work in this application (ie on a scrap piece of clay or something)? I've never done pottery before.
Wow! This looks amazing - I’m curious if other techniques can be used along slide this cardboard one! - speckles or nerikomi in the cardboard-like texture to add even more variation.
amazing ideas! 🤩
11:22 it's also a technique study
i took a pottery wheel class for the first time earlier this month and WOW!! i cannot imagine how difficult this was. You are so talented!! sharing your inspirations has inspired me! let me try and get back to the wheel!! you slayed fr.
i said wow out loud when you took them out of the kiln, absolutely outstanding work! ❤
Yesterday I was thinking about your channel and videos and how much I enjoy watching them. And today I see your video in my feed. I am in bliss
next time you try you should make multiple cardboard layers for the handle, as if they were glued together so it would maybe feel safer to hold
Hi! I started watching your Channel about 2 days ago and I already really love what you do
Yesss I was hoping you'd recreate this!!!! I saw the reel and immediately thought of you
haha thats awesome! I couldnt resist 👀
Enjoying getting to see you have fun with your craft
thanks for watching!
Seeing the colouration at the end was just... *chef's kiss 🤌🏻* I spent the last few minutes of the video geeking over the final product together with you 🤩 it looks fantastic!
I loved the outcome! It IS amazing what you can do with clay! Thank you for a great video!
Thanks for your kind words! 🥰
I am so impressed by your work here. I think this is an amazing undertaking and you've done an amazing job. It also is so fun when you are "tickled pink" with your creations. That's what it's all about.
This series always makes me surprised with myself 🥰
This is so pretty, a set of teapot and little cups would be so dreamy,imma try them!
You did an amazing job! As someone who works with cardboard a lot you perfectly captured the look of cardboard that's been through the ringer ("been through the ringer" is not an insult I promise, something made of cardboard like that would get beat up so it looks pretty perfect)
You did such a great job! I gasped when you pulled them out of the kiln! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
Thanks so much!!
perfection through imperfection. really adds to the illusion that its made out of cardboard
these turned out soooo cool! You're such an inspiration!!
Thank you so much!!
The final result looked great, the only problem (which I noticed in the original artist's work too) is that for the stamped rings around the sides you wouldn't get the end grain corrugation around the entire ring as if the corrugation ran radially outword.
Oh this is amazing! I too was having trouble visualizing it before firing, but that color change and the slight wonky bits makes it look SO MUCH like cardboard that it was jarring to hear it when you set it down. lol fantastic work :)
the color was a gamechanger 🙌
Omg you DEFINITELY pulled that off! It looks awesome! I love this series, cant wait for the next one.
This is completely amazing! I am waiting to be able to buy a vase from him and complete obsessed with what you did!
Love this series! Would have never known about this artist otherwise. Love this effect.
Wow! So great to watch you work and try to understand his process. His work is beautiful and you have done such a fantastic job of emulating it ❣️
Thank you so much!
these look amazing! all the imperfections definitely make it look even more like cardboard
I'm so glad you made this video! I don't tik tok, but I did see an article about this work! I've been intrigued ever since 😊
Jaw dropping... absolutely astounding work!
i like that imperfect finish
OMG! I had not seen that reel - and wow wow WOW!
go check out his work! its like what I did here but BETTER 😅
i've never watched a pottery chanel before but this was so fun and interesting. i love the video and the final product!
Wow, you smashed it. Turned out so much better than I thought it was going to right until the reveal
thumbnail only catches "Pot to Peo" and with what looks like a plant obstructing the o in people, it looks like it says "Pot to Pee" which is unintentionally hilarious.
Your interpretation of this artists work is good, like your ommarge to Florian Gadsby, you are an amazing artist, i love your whole take on making stuff, i like your 'surprise' that what you are making actually comes out right. Love love love it x😊
You majorly pulled it off. Truly amazing
The handle is awesome.
Thank you very much!
Such a cool experiment, loved watching this, especially you making the stamping tool!
Thanks for watching!
Did you add any matte glaze so you can actually use those functionally? So fricken cool!
Haven't ever heard of this pottery style and I'm a bit off that topic in general but omg that looks so incredible! Looks like I randomly found my favorite pottery style
Also I think your pieces turned out pretty awesome, great job!!
wow this is all so amazing! as non-artist, I find the process fun and very informative I hope you continue making videos like this ❤