@@j.jnerdamy320 nah the american version would be more like moving to somewhere inn south america. the english version of moving to canada would be moving to, like, scotland
also just a random thought, maybe jon knows that sasha is indeed the most suspicious at the work rn but a huge flaw in his character seems to be denial -- like him forcefully applying logic to every single statement because he's scared. he's probably deflecting his suspicions of sasha to cope :(
Third option, she is the one Jon suspects the most, but he is paranoid enough to think that she might get to his tapes, so he keeps his suspicions of the records
Also it seems that before he would confide in Sasha the most. He would vent to her in earlier episodes unlike with his other coworkers and it looks like he appreciates her opinion more than the others'. And in the end of the season one episode when he smashed the wall, in that conversation and he seemed totally off gaurd with her. Like he is just naturally open and loose around her. I don't think he wants to lose that, especially now that he feels he can trust no one and he knows he's being lied to by someone. Also his life may be on the line so thats alot too
@@horrificreader4084 Tim was confirmed to be bi or pansexual a few episodes back I think, when Jon was talking about how Tim was getting information from his flings at the police, one of whom was a womean and one a man. I don't think there has been any clear statement about Jons or Basiras sexuality at this point, but I could be wrong.
as a new Zealander i can say that if you want to get away and disconnect from the outside world, say, to get away from your spooky trauma, here is the place to do so
as an artist hearing smirke talk about symmetry and balance was actually really understandable in a way my professors can't achieve that level of conciseness lol
im almost 100% sure that its for the stabbing, im not totally certain that the worms would even require physical therapy and even if they did its been multiple months and we can only assume hes mostly healed from that whole debacle
I adore every single character in this series Jon so passionate about his work and investigation Martin is such a sweet lil bean Tim makes me laugh everytime he shows up Sasha she’s been off but before she was so kind Michael just a silly lil entity who refuses to tell everyone what’s going on They all make me so hapoy
Whenever Tim arrives, my brain goes "Have you ever looked at a person and wondered, what is going on inside their head?" Seriously! Joe spooky at the infestation. And now, this??? He's such a madlad and I love it!
Tim is pretty smart or at least he's competent enough but he's definitely one of those characters whose inner monologue goes like this I think: *_AIN'T NOTHIN' GONNA BREAK MY STRIDE, AIN'T NOTHIN' GONNA SLOW ME DOWN, OH NO, I GOTS TO KEEP ON MOVIN'. AIN'T NOTHIN' GONNA BREAK MY STRIDE, NOBODY GONNA TELL ME HOW, OH NO, I GOTS TO KEEP ON MOVIN'_*
Jonah Magnus again! I'm looking forward to hearing more about this guy and the creation of the Magnus Institute. But listening to this makes me suspicious. If the Institute was created after this letter, then it means Magnus knew Smirke's architecture was weird and that choosing this site to build his Institute would have paranormal, probably dangerous consequences. Hmmm.
@@SwirlyPinwheel Also this mentioned that Robert Smirke was unhappy how John Gilbert was using his knowledge possibly the institute has supernatural elements protecting it??
Okay theory-- jon does suspect sasha, but isn't leaving it on tape because he saw someone had gone through them? Just in case shes the one who was snooping around--
I know nobody else but me cares, but the case file number in the description is wrong, the date of the statement was 1841, but the case number is '814', but in case your taking notes like I am, here you go!
Kempthorne: talking about the plight of the poor. Me: ah so he's like Dickens good on you. Kempthorne: I built the workhouse and going on about how good it was they were the way they were. Me: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed.
Idol, as in an object of infatuation, usually used to refer to something one is *not* supposed to be infatuated with. Think, "false gods" from the old testament's description of idols. In the context of the work house and the way these men revere the moral affects of "work," an idol would be something one would do or appreciate more than work and would actively avoid working in favor of the idol. I assume the governer, or whoever that short, wide figure was, caused this Henry's death because Henry was revering idols instead of work.
@@beetlegob No, I think he just meant idle as in the other word for lazy. Like, he was a lazy worker. And I don't think he got squished I think he became like a part of the wall. Either supernaturally or he was trapped in it while it was being made.
Jon didn't say "supplemental" so he must have started the recording in what he though was self-defense as Tim came unexpectedly. So, what we have is Jon: ...why would the police bother you, not!suspicious workmate? Tim: Great job boss *fingerguns*
Remember that scientist assistant with his mentor having a similar name in Blood Bag (45)? Thomas Neil x Neil Thompson || Henry Roberts x Robert Smirke. Maybe it's too far fetched. Their names aren't as similar anyways.
Aaaahhh yes. I was wondering which episode this was and finally found it. Tim you beautiful man you! I live for the interactions between these characters.
I love the episodes that are letters to Jonah, because they always make me think of episode 92, which is one of my favorite TMA episodes of all time. Ah, Jonah Magnus. Horrific man.
It's not even been 2 minutes and I already paused and came hang down in the comments section. My mind just shuts off and refuses to string the words I'm hearing together into sentences. It's like my brain is on strike.
Honestly, aside from being hilarious, it might even be a good cover story to pretend to be sleeping with the police officer. I constantly feel like Jon is on the verge of being discovered, and this is an easy lie, so idk… it might be good. Though Jon is NOT straight (the evidence for this is that I said so), so I hope nobody (*cough cough* Martin *cough cough*) assumes that of him…
I really really really hope Tim doesn't tell Martin because my baby is gonna be so sad, but I also really really really hope Tim does tell him, because then we get some of that sweet sweet 🌟drama🌟 *chef's kiss*
gods, I feel for Jon so hard in this one - I'm ace too, and generally very open with people, and I make sure I act friendly and interested with new people in a way that registers to them (my neurodivergence can make me come off as rude, and I've got resting murder face, so I make sure I'm smiling so ppl don't think I'm angry at them) This has, unfortunately, led a LOT of people to think that I'm flirting. Either with them or someone else. And when you get embarrassed while denying the claim, people just think you're lying, and then you eventually have to kinda put it out there that you're _definitely_ not interested before they back off or drop the subject, but you don't just wanna tell a random stranger or new coworker that you're queer, and sometimes they think you're lying about _that_ too bc they've never heard of it or think you MUST be straight bc you were "obviously flirting", and aaahhhh
SPOILER ALERT: maybe thats why Martin was jealous (the office gossip between Melanie and Basira) of Basira cuz Tim went around the archives telling people that Jon and Basira had something
I tend to miss the part where it says the date of the statement, so I usually use its number to orientate myself. So you can imagine my confusion, when he started to talk about events of 1834 in a statement #814...
My slow ass didn't even realize Robert Smirke had been in this episode until the end cuz they called him "Sir" Robert Smirke and I was too busy trying to process the other words to realize
Scott was the architect of my university, so thank you Jon for this! I shall be ever thankful that I dont often need to wander those cloisters after dark
Aggressively funny of this show to just be like yeah real architect that existed Sir George Gilbert Scott is a freak. That's why real architect that existed Sampson Kempthorne moved to New Zealand, which he did do in real life
Tim: I don't trust that policewoman.
Jon: Why not? Are you some kind of _criminal?_
He's being very subtle about his investigations😂
1312
Acab
All Cops Aren't Basira?
Abab
Jon: I am not sleeping with that police officer
Tim: Ok Boss.
Hearing Tim say he's the finest /cat burglar/ in Bromley, after learning of his involvement with police staff, is absolute *chef's kiss*
also of course he assumes jon is having sex with police, because tim himself is having sex with police
I agree
Something spooky: happens
Statement givers: right so imma gonna go to New Zeland
british person: *is traumatised* ight imma head out
It makes sense I mean have you ever heard about spooky stuff going down in new zeland
It happened in the butcher episode, when else?
@@eclipsicalbluestocking1182This episode
"Good work boss" LMFAO
I never realised just how many people in this show go "Screw this, I'm going to New Zealand"
It’s a very British thing to do I know a lot of people that have
@@Grey-august123 Note to self: If in Britain and experiencing strange/annoying/unwanted things, move to New Zealand.
As someone in New Zealand: Just know it's not safe here either. We have Monster Pig.
Let's take a minute to realize that if this show was American it would be Canada instead of New Zealand
@@j.jnerdamy320 nah the american version would be more like moving to somewhere inn south america. the english version of moving to canada would be moving to, like, scotland
This "Good work, boss" has the exact effing energy of the comment section under the previous episode talking about Tim himself xd
also just a random thought, maybe jon knows that sasha is indeed the most suspicious at the work rn but a huge flaw in his character seems to be denial -- like him forcefully applying logic to every single statement because he's scared. he's probably deflecting his suspicions of sasha to cope :(
THIS
Nah, its more that, because of how the Not!Them works, it literally doesn't occur to him to suspect her.
Third option, she is the one Jon suspects the most, but he is paranoid enough to think that she might get to his tapes, so he keeps his suspicions of the records
@@nemodra4790 Oohh that's a good one, it could be that.
Also it seems that before he would confide in Sasha the most. He would vent to her in earlier episodes unlike with his other coworkers and it looks like he appreciates her opinion more than the others'. And in the end of the season one episode when he smashed the wall, in that conversation and he seemed totally off gaurd with her. Like he is just naturally open and loose around her. I don't think he wants to lose that, especially now that he feels he can trust no one and he knows he's being lied to by someone. Also his life may be on the line so thats alot too
local bisexual thinks asexual boss and lesbian police officer are having an affair, more at 5
FFFDSFL The ending fucking S E NT me
Where does it say everyone’s sexuality?
First time listener here.
@@horrificreader4084 Tim was confirmed to be bi or pansexual a few episodes back I think, when Jon was talking about how Tim was getting information from his flings at the police, one of whom was a womean and one a man.
I don't think there has been any clear statement about Jons or Basiras sexuality at this point, but I could be wrong.
it was implied at a later episode when discussing one of Jon's past relationships and additionally confirmed during a Q+A!
pArdOn mE but Jon's sexuality is 100% Martin.
Tim: I don't really like her.
Jon: Wouldn't that make you... a _C R I M I N A L?_
Joe Spooky, the finest cat burglar in Bromley
Despite everything, it's oddly sweet to hear Tim being a supportive wingman.
"good work boss" tIM NO
"That did little to quell the swelling rage in my breast."
Sims really nailed those victorian mannerisms.
Tim continues to be an utter delight
Tim is the best there ever was
Tim is that dude-bro that everybody wishes they knew
i want to be his friend
The episode, spooky. The ending, glorious.
*sees title *
*waits patiently for the name “Robert Smirk” *
😏
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as a new Zealander i can say that if you want to get away and disconnect from the outside world, say, to get away from your spooky trauma, here is the place to do so
as a fellow new zealander i can confirm this
I love this comment its literally so fun
Thats what a trauma demon would say
I'm more concerned about your residency policies lmao
now Martin is gonna be jealous for nothing xDD
@@L.clayton. Right...
@@L.clayton. I can't wait until you reach the later seasons
@@redpanda2978 Please label your spoilers
@@L.clayton. Please label your spoilers
@@L.clayton. i dont see it i dont understnad why theyre being shipped
as an artist hearing smirke talk about symmetry and balance was actually really understandable in a way my professors can't achieve that level of conciseness lol
I wonder if the physical therapy was for the worms or the stabbing...
Do they know about the stabbing?
Wasn't it the corkscrew in his leg?
im almost 100% sure that its for the stabbing, im not totally certain that the worms would even require physical therapy and even if they did its been multiple months and we can only assume hes mostly healed from that whole debacle
Tim is my absolute favorite so far
Mine too, and not just because of the great name.
im gonna break down crying
Lol, Jon needs to stop Tim before he starts spreading rumors that he's straight 😂
absolutely unimaginable
I choked reading this
Yea cause he's ace lol
@@0nullnil you can be ace and straight
Jon isn't, but people can be
@@0nullnil you can be ace and feel romantic attraction
I adore every single character in this series
Jon so passionate about his work and investigation
Martin is such a sweet lil bean
Tim makes me laugh everytime he shows up
Sasha she’s been off but before she was so kind
Michael just a silly lil entity who refuses to tell everyone what’s going on
They all make me so hapoy
NICE, TIM
Oh my god Tim!! That's hilarious. I love the stories and the funny bits you include every now and then. Keep up the great work.
the sheer joy i felt at "end supplemental".... wonderful. impeccable. floored me completely
Yes yes, very spooky and all. But I'll be honest, the description of the "Governor" all I could imagine was Danny Devito as The Penguin.
OMG.....the same thing crossed my mind
pfyshdu two years later and same
YES THATS EXACTLY WHAT I IMAGINED!! I legit thought, "What the hell is The Penguin doing in The Magnus Archives?"
oh tim
If I hear that architecture's name one more time I'm gonna riot
Supplemental- Tim you slay fox
Tim: the fox that pressed the slay button
Whenever Tim arrives, my brain goes "Have you ever looked at a person and wondered, what is going on inside their head?" Seriously! Joe spooky at the infestation. And now, this??? He's such a madlad and I love it!
When I say I cackled when he said the Joe spooky I literally howled
Tim is pretty smart or at least he's competent enough but he's definitely one of those characters whose inner monologue goes like this I think:
*_AIN'T NOTHIN' GONNA BREAK MY STRIDE, AIN'T NOTHIN' GONNA SLOW ME DOWN, OH NO, I GOTS TO KEEP ON MOVIN'. AIN'T NOTHIN' GONNA BREAK MY STRIDE, NOBODY GONNA TELL ME HOW, OH NO, I GOTS TO KEEP ON MOVIN'_*
@@hamburgerdog25god ur so real for that 😭😭
Poor Martin’s gonna be so jealous!
that's exactly what I was thinking, lol! I hope Tim doesn't tell him😭
Oh no! I hadn't thought of that, poor Martin 😅
Jonah Magnus again! I'm looking forward to hearing more about this guy and the creation of the Magnus Institute. But listening to this makes me suspicious. If the Institute was created after this letter, then it means Magnus knew Smirke's architecture was weird and that choosing this site to build his Institute would have paranormal, probably dangerous consequences. Hmmm.
The Institute was built in 1818 and the letter was in 1841, so it was already stablished.
I'm thinking he may have used it to his advantage. Like how the worms were hindered when they were inside the building?
@@SwirlyPinwheel Also this mentioned that Robert Smirke was unhappy how John Gilbert was using his knowledge possibly the institute has supernatural elements protecting it??
laughs in MAG 160
@@niyxraedon4924 SHHHHHH
something about jon saying "low-key" is so funny to me
It seems that Robert Smirk is a kind of Jekyll and Hide.
*Hyde
Okay theory-- jon does suspect sasha, but isn't leaving it on tape because he saw someone had gone through them? Just in case shes the one who was snooping around--
No, he legitimately doesn't.
TIM YOU'RE THE BEST
TIMOTHY NO!
TIMOTHY YES!
I ADORE Tim with my whole heart
I’m going to be MAJORLY astonished if it turns out that Jon knew Sasha was sus this whole time and made these tapes to divert her off his trail
Omg Tim you bisexual madman, you're gonna make the pining between Martin and Jon so much worse with that rumor😂😂 I'm living for this
I know nobody else but me cares, but the case file number in the description is wrong, the date of the statement was 1841, but the case number is '814', but in case your taking notes like I am, here you go!
You just made it to the top of Jon's suspect list.
@@KatanaDen fuck!
martin probably noticed it but he doesnt want to annoy john by telling him
thanks
I believe they don't use the first digit of the year, like statements taken in 2011 have a number 011...
Tim is a huge mood
Kempthorne: talking about the plight of the poor.
Me: ah so he's like Dickens good on you.
Kempthorne: I built the workhouse and going on about how good it was they were the way they were.
Me: I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed.
You can hear the smile in Tim's voice - great voice work as always
*laughing hysterically* Poor poor Jon XD Tim is awesome
14:27 I’m going to be honest, my heart sank to my stomach when I heard him say “worms”
same lmao
god i identify with jon during that conversation with tim so hard lmao
The implication is that this Harry guy got squished by the wall by this Governor character, who had previously called him idle?
Idol, as in an object of infatuation, usually used to refer to something one is *not* supposed to be infatuated with. Think, "false gods" from the old testament's description of idols.
In the context of the work house and the way these men revere the moral affects of "work," an idol would be something one would do or appreciate more than work and would actively avoid working in favor of the idol.
I assume the governer, or whoever that short, wide figure was, caused this Henry's death because Henry was revering idols instead of work.
I thought it was malthusian 'I cannot afford to made idle people merry' and all that. (Ik it was Scrooge not Malthus but he's a representation)
@@beetlegob No, I think he just meant idle as in the other word for lazy. Like, he was a lazy worker. And I don't think he got squished I think he became like a part of the wall. Either supernaturally or he was trapped in it while it was being made.
Tim: Oh. Say no more. Congrats on getting a date. :)
Jon: Wait- No! We're not together! TIM GET BACK HERE I'M NOT STRAIGHT!
yea but he is bi.....
@@ghoulishffxHe's ace, actually! Biromantic yes but also asexual
@@wiktoriarynkun3673 oh i know i meant bi as in short for biromantic
1st time listener here and the supplemental "Good work, boss 😉" has me giggling.
Still one of my favorite moments of this entire podcast!
Jon didn't say "supplemental" so he must have started the recording in what he though was self-defense as Tim came unexpectedly. So, what we have is
Jon: ...why would the police bother you, not!suspicious workmate?
Tim: Great job boss *fingerguns*
Remember that scientist assistant with his mentor having a similar name in Blood Bag (45)? Thomas Neil x Neil Thompson || Henry Roberts x Robert Smirke. Maybe it's too far fetched. Their names aren't as similar anyways.
Aaaahhh yes. I was wondering which episode this was and finally found it. Tim you beautiful man you! I live for the interactions between these characters.
"Letters to Jonah" statements and their flowery language are among my favourites!
I love the episodes that are letters to Jonah, because they always make me think of episode 92, which is one of my favorite TMA episodes of all time. Ah, Jonah Magnus. Horrific man.
Little bastard man… introducing the 1800s gay scene to the supernatural
as someone who isn't a native english speaker, statements from the 19th century are really hard to follow ngl... i had to watch this one 3 times lol
I mean as a native English speaker they’re pretty hard to digest to begin with. Too many words lol
It's not even been 2 minutes and I already paused and came hang down in the comments section. My mind just shuts off and refuses to string the words I'm hearing together into sentences. It's like my brain is on strike.
even as a native english speaker I'm up here with captions on, paying full attention, ready to Google any words I don't know 😭
Same, I didn't understand anything, ill have to listen again on the bus tomorrow
Honestly, aside from being hilarious, it might even be a good cover story to pretend to be sleeping with the police officer. I constantly feel like Jon is on the verge of being discovered, and this is an easy lie, so idk… it might be good. Though Jon is NOT straight (the evidence for this is that I said so), so I hope nobody (*cough cough* Martin *cough cough*) assumes that of him…
again i am here to state that i love tim. i love everyone - save for not!sasha - but time makes me chuckle and i greatly appreciate it.
Just finished the butchers window and my first ad on this episode was a cow talking about how stockades work…😳 wild
the Spooky Architect and his Bone Chilling Apprentices
TIM LMAOOO
I really really really hope Tim doesn't tell Martin because my baby is gonna be so sad, but I also really really really hope Tim does tell him, because then we get some of that sweet sweet 🌟drama🌟 *chef's kiss*
Good work boss, hahaha
I do like those 100+ years old statements but oh boy, my non native English speaker arse is struggling
samee i have to rewind every 30 seconds to understand wtf is happening
@@baiaaaaa
I use the transcripts, they're on the TMA wikia !
@@baiaaaaa
I usually hear alright but I had to look up the meaning of a few words lol
OMG SO REAL
When you try to teach your prodigy about the golden ration and fractal geometry but they just want to make lots of tiny boxes.
New Zealand must really be a safe haven for these statement givers
the ending this time made me smile a lot lol jeez
This fantastic so far but I got 87 episodes to go..... Man I love these podcasts
About time you started uploading again. Listening to these is slightly more satisfying when I get to see the logo and smoke sequence.
gods, I feel for Jon so hard in this one - I'm ace too, and generally very open with people, and I make sure I act friendly and interested with new people in a way that registers to them (my neurodivergence can make me come off as rude, and I've got resting murder face, so I make sure I'm smiling so ppl don't think I'm angry at them) This has, unfortunately, led a LOT of people to think that I'm flirting. Either with them or someone else.
And when you get embarrassed while denying the claim, people just think you're lying, and then you eventually have to kinda put it out there that you're _definitely_ not interested before they back off or drop the subject, but you don't just wanna tell a random stranger or new coworker that you're queer, and sometimes they think you're lying about _that_ too bc they've never heard of it or think you MUST be straight bc you were "obviously flirting", and aaahhhh
SPOILER ALERT:
maybe thats why Martin was jealous (the office gossip between Melanie and Basira) of Basira cuz Tim went around the archives telling people that Jon and Basira had something
I can't with how well said the statement is in this episode, like his acting is amazing in this episode it's amazing
Yeah Tim knows what’s up 😏
fucking tim. Gotta love him
That ending, truly beautiful. Poor Jon 🤣🤣
tim really said ;)
Tim and Michael are my favorite characters so far they're so precious
I tend to miss the part where it says the date of the statement, so I usually use its number to orientate myself.
So you can imagine my confusion, when he started to talk about events of 1834 in a statement #814...
Tim said ACAB
Wym Tim was sexing it up w 2 of em
All cops ARE bastards tho
@@simonjamesson9893 Tim says ACAB (All Cops Are Beddable)
@@lollipopsie_5230 I don't like that at all
@@simonjamesson9893 tim really said fuck the police
Tim is literally stealing my ❤️
Headcannon: Tim *is* a catburgler
If I'm being honest i really dont understand whats going on in this episode i'm super confused 😔
Right there with you
Me too ✌️
This episode is something of a board setting one. There's some important stuff set up here.
My slow ass didn't even realize Robert Smirke had been in this episode until the end cuz they called him "Sir" Robert Smirke and I was too busy trying to process the other words to realize
Tim is giving me Shane Madej vibes at that last part XD
Examining the current drawings and retreating to my office to fight for my life only to return battered with revised images
I love Tim with my whole heart
Not Tim immediately assuming Jon is having a fling with the police women, but seriously it dose sound like that the way he put it
Tim will forever be my favorite character he has some of the best interaction in this show
G-d I love Tim
i fucking love Tim
FRACTALS????????? !!! now what is going on
Scott was the architect of my university, so thank you Jon for this! I shall be ever thankful that I dont often need to wander those cloisters after dark
Oh my... Martin is going to be heartbroken...
My conclusion from this episode? Flustered Jon is Best Jon
Aggressively funny of this show to just be like yeah real architect that existed Sir George Gilbert Scott is a freak. That's why real architect that existed Sampson Kempthorne moved to New Zealand, which he did do in real life
This episode makes me giggle even more watching the show a second time through XD
Scariest part about this is Tim thinking his boss is straight
OMG I am living for the supplementals 😭😂