Happily joined because of the Scout and the Ramcharger info. I've also placed my money on a Terra Harvester, and just want more "real" information as it comes out. So far I'm stoked. Please as you cover this stuff, stick to facts and no speculation - your subscribers will appreciate that. Currently I have a '23 Rubicon 4xe and a Tesla Model 3, so I'm already comfy with the idea of an electric vehicle with options for charging. Different tools for different things. The M-3 is our commuter, charges from our solar panels on the house, so has virtually zero cost of ownership to us other than the cost of the car itself and tires. The Wrangler is the weekend go-anywhere funmobile which (current 95B recall aside) we generally run in electric-only for short trips around town, and run gas only on longer trips. This "extended range" way of using it is really great, especially running trails in electric mode. For instance, we road trip to EJS in Moab every Easter, and there the 4xe is just as capable off-road as any similarly-built Wrangler we run with, except we can just do the trail with more torque and less noise. The whole reason for placing the order on the Scout is to replace the Wrangler, get a truck bed back (I miss that), but stay in a similar footprint with lockers and swaybar disconnects. Those are things the upcoming Ramcharger currently doesn't even say they'd offer, and it will be too big for the trails we run. The Terra looks to be somewhat our perfect solution. Can't wait.
3 years before this comes out is gonna be a long time. The competition will have brought out new things too. I have a reservation in for a terra, but im not holding my breath with anticipation.
I’m one of those guys that subscribed for Scout content. I reserved a Traveler/Harvester but the more I look into EV’s the more I’m unsure. 150miles EV plus 350miles on the range extender sound great to me. Imho, EV is only great for city driving when you can charge at home. Road-tripping is better with a gas engine. I never understood the people that said it looks like a Rivian. I think the Rivian is ugly, I would never consider a Rivian but here I am considering a Scout solely because it looks awesome! NoW I have to convince myself to buy an EV. I’m also NOT a fan of the Porsche looking headlights. 😊
New subscriber here, I like all this timely Scout info and deep dives that you are doing. Just want to mention that I have an i3 Rex and have never had any trouble maintaining 70mph, although I have not tried going over any mountain pass highways on an empty battery. The Range Extender automatically turns on at 6% batt level but almost every i3 owner has enabled the Hold State of Charge feature to let them turn on the Rex at any battery percentage under 75%. The Rex takes a bit of time to ramp up and varies how hard it works depending on how fast the battery is draining. The most I've ever seen it fall behind is 3% below the hold percentage. (Enabling Hold and immediately accelerating uphill to hwy speeds and maintaining uphill for few miles)
I am fine with 150mi EV IF the range extender gets me 400+ miles with sustained performance. 150mile range means I’ll be in EV mode most of my day-to-day
I was guessing a 100 mile EV range before gas kicks in. 150 miles is generous. I have a 70 mile round trip commute. 100 miles is perfect. 150, and I will never use gas except for roadtrips. Can’t wait.
Scout really needs to make the EREV generator an option you can drop in after the fact. It’d be great to have range extender alternatives - second battery, gas generator, fuel cell, etc.
Fantastic episode guys! Great coverage of topics. Also, Kudos on the being seen by Scout Motors and to be included on future media releases... that's awesome!! Keep it up guys! looking forward to the next one!
We bought a Rivian R1S not for the upscale interior, but for the well rounded capabilities (and 7 seats). I would have bought a cheaper, more basic trim if it was available, but luckily we had early pricing so that helped. We have the max pack and it's been great for going up to the mountains and back again, and also for a couple camping trips towing our camper. We also have a bmw i3 with range extender and unfortunately fortunately?) only the range extender has given us problems over 130k miles. Ours is coded so we can turn on the engine below 75% charge. I really hope the Scout has all the capabilities they promise!
Workhorse ill-fated W15 was another study in ideal range/engine. They were considering ~60KWh. I think reliable daily range (including coldest/hottest day of the year) is a practically enough. So, ~80mi would be plenty for me. Also, like the Volt's "hold" mode, this discussion needs to push Scout to be sure and let users set the series charging voluntarily, thru a selected mode. For example, when approaching a mountain pass while towing. Practically all PHEVs default to exhausting their battery, first.
Here for all things Scout EV. Like y’all…I’m a Traveller Harvester resi holder. Decided to move my “new car shekels “ from the new Land Cruiser to new Scout. Greatly appreciate the deep dive on the REX tech as this has definitely been top of mind for me since getting in digital line for my new rig. Anxiously awaiting formal feedback on geni size…as this will make or break the truck…and maybe the company. Will probably take some guff from diehard EV’ers out there but I would gladly sacrifice the frunk for a more capable geni that would ultimately have much easier PM access…just sayin. That said, 150 mi (if you can fully charge) should be fit for 99% of this market, one would think…especially since you have the gas fallback plan. Lastly, as a legacy ‘77 IHS II owner (1st vehicle I ever owned), I always thought Rivian ripped off heritage Scout design…which I liked…but I could never get the front fascia out of my mind. Walt Disney called & wants his cartoon truck back…
Great discussion. I love the design of the vehicle. The way its based on the old scouts but modernized and unique in its own right is amazing. And there's so much attention to detail which is what drew me into Rivian as well. I think the Scout actually looks nicer and is more instantly appealing to me. The Rivian had to grow on me a bit. And though you just touched on it a bit the interior of the scout looks better than the Rivian as well. It's frustrating that companies seem so adverse to physical buttons and handles because they seem to think Tesla's way is the only way.
In design vs Rivian- definitively this is not a badge engineered Rivian. Completely different platform- Rivian is unibody w/ independent suspension; Scouts are body on frame with solid rear axle (independent front- like Bronco). As to overall design- keep in mind, when Ineos unveiled the Grenadier which is clearly inspired by vintage Defender Land Rover sued and European court agreed with mines that, comparing vintage G Wagen, Bronco, Scout, Jeeps…there’s a built in language for dedicated off-roaders that flows from the intended use- squared off, big greenhouse, etc. You see the same thing sports/muscle cars- taking into account goals, performance, aero…they end up looking very similar.
The Rivian has a strong C-pillar and the Scout has a strong D-pillar, that is enough to say that the cars look completely different from the sideview, and they are completely different on the front and rear-view. And as you say, the Scout was out of the market for the last 44 years, imagine how many designers have looked at the Scout in the last 40 years to get some ideas on how to design a rugged SUV.
I want an EV first and a range extender second. I’ll be disappointed if the EV range is less than half of the gas range. I don’t want to be running the gas engine except in an emergency.
I think round headlights would look so much better. I get they’re trying not to look like Bronco and Wrangler but that’s such a classic look for the era they all came from.
Having driven full electric for 5 years now, I’m disappointed to learn the electric range is only 150. I was hoping for 225-250. I tow a trailer often with my Model Y and was excited about the REX model because when I do tow my Polaris Ranger, the range takes a hit for sure. I may switch my reservation over to the full electric Traveler. At the rate the Tesla Supercharger network is being built out, the REX may not be needed. In any event, a great looking vehicle and fantastic content guys!
Definitely earned a sub! I have a 5 x 8 trailer that the Ranger barely fits, midsize, but I probably hook it up a couple of times a month. The Model Y is essentially my truck with the trailer.
@@CaptSlowMTB Oh I see you are talking mechanical differences and trying to be cute, well guess what the Rivian will out perform the Scout with the setup they use in their new Quad Motor set up. Maybe do some research before setting your RUclips fingers on fire. It doesn't matter how the mechanics are done if it out performs in every way. Good luck to you and your two to three year wait for less performance and capability.
I live in a yurt and want to haul my horse to nice places to ride. I want to use the battery for my daily yurt needs and I want the extender to make sure I don't get stuck out in the boonies with my horse. Under 300 miles of battery range disappoints me.
Interesting. We would think your particular use case is more suited to the longer gas range, shorter electric range. You can always run the range extender as a generator if you somehow exhaust the battery at the yurt.
I was thinking about the Harvester today. Scout has said that 80% of the vehicle will be able to work in by the owner. Does this include the Harvester in it? Or is it part of the 20% that is not?
The gas powered generator will (assume) be more efficient to charge a battery over powering the car itself. Based on the numbers you give - 350 miles of range from the generator will require how much gas?
You guys are really trying hard, first impressions and reactions are correct most of the time and you said it yourself most people that saw it initially said Rivian and guess what its because Rivian and VW are working together on this project, so just stop with the silliness because it doesn't even matter one its more you being offended for some reason.
Rivian and VW established a joint venture to develop next gen vehicle architecture for electronics and control systems, absolutely nothing to do with design
@@ROMRreviews Yes and if you believe their first vehicle together will not be more hands on than normal you are in denial. The form factor is 100% Rivian but for some reason you don't see that which lends me to believe you are blind or naive to say the least.
We reserved both the Scouts (Traveler and Terra) and have a reservation on the Rivian R2 and the Ram REV/Ramcharger. About the same time the Scout is out, we will be looking to purchase 1-2 vehicles (depending on affordability). What has us nervous now (without getting political) is the reports about the incoming Trump administration’s desire to remove the EV credit.
Yes 150 miles EV only because the battery will be much smaller since the battery is the most expensive piece to these vehicles still. So this will be about 50KWH battery size or so. You can't do 350 miles EV only with that large of a battery cost and then also put an engine in there and think it's going to be affordable. You are going to be better off with the full EV version with that set up because you will remove the complexity of what you as the consumer are going to have to service.
You compared an early Bronco to a Scout II. Why didn’t you compare it to the Scout 80 or 800? Are you new? Do you not realize the Bronco was a copy of the original Scout?
@@ROMRreviews it seemed to me that you were saying how similar the Bronco was, in styling, to the Scout II. It really wasn’t that similar at all. It was near identical to the original Scout though. If people think the new Scout Traveler looks like a new Bronco, I think it is worth pointing out that the original Bronco was a copy of the original Scout. Just like you are pointing out that if the Scout Motors vehicles seems to look like Rivians, it because Rivian looks like the old Scouts. Rivian grave robbed its style from the Scout, thinking it would stay buried, but now it’s resurrected and making Rivian look like an imitation.
@@williamweatherby8417 we were pointing out all the similarities across multiple platforms from the era and how Rivian drew upon classic American SUVs. Not really comparing bronco, scout, suburban or jeeps other than they an reflect common themes from the era
There is no compelling reason for the Scout Terra over a TRX or Raptor or Gladiator or several others. Why go with the complexity of battery/engine from a start-up manufacturer over a proven ICE off-roader. The Terra is 2-3 years away. Pure battery EVs trucks will surpass 500 miles by that time.
Dumbest take. EV range minimum 300. Gas Range minimum 100. Is the best combo. PHEV at 50 is crazy. 40 range is crazy like that’s won’t cover southern or SoCal home and back.
Happily joined because of the Scout and the Ramcharger info. I've also placed my money on a Terra Harvester, and just want more "real" information as it comes out. So far I'm stoked. Please as you cover this stuff, stick to facts and no speculation - your subscribers will appreciate that. Currently I have a '23 Rubicon 4xe and a Tesla Model 3, so I'm already comfy with the idea of an electric vehicle with options for charging. Different tools for different things. The M-3 is our commuter, charges from our solar panels on the house, so has virtually zero cost of ownership to us other than the cost of the car itself and tires. The Wrangler is the weekend go-anywhere funmobile which (current 95B recall aside) we generally run in electric-only for short trips around town, and run gas only on longer trips. This "extended range" way of using it is really great, especially running trails in electric mode. For instance, we road trip to EJS in Moab every Easter, and there the 4xe is just as capable off-road as any similarly-built Wrangler we run with, except we can just do the trail with more torque and less noise. The whole reason for placing the order on the Scout is to replace the Wrangler, get a truck bed back (I miss that), but stay in a similar footprint with lockers and swaybar disconnects. Those are things the upcoming Ramcharger currently doesn't even say they'd offer, and it will be too big for the trails we run. The Terra looks to be somewhat our perfect solution. Can't wait.
We'll share what we know, where it came from, how reliable the info is, WHEN we get it
1970 dodge charger grill! Joking! Love this new re-brand. I am on the harvester list. 150 miles is fine and I am a previous BMW i3 owner.
Excellent!
That 70’s Blue Bronco is beautiful. Imaging re-issuing these as EVs? Killer.
Someone's done it!
@ Not as a production vehicle surely but as a labour of love like someone did to a vintage Scout?
3 years before this comes out is gonna be a long time. The competition will have brought out new things too. I have a reservation in for a terra, but im not holding my breath with anticipation.
Agreed. The wait won't be fun
Me neither. I’m going to be buying something in 3-4 years and I’ll be carefully looking at what’s on the market then.
Keep the scout content coming
Will do!
I’m one of those guys that subscribed for Scout content. I reserved a Traveler/Harvester but the more I look into EV’s the more I’m unsure.
150miles EV plus 350miles on the range extender sound great to me. Imho, EV is only great for city driving when you can charge at home. Road-tripping is better with a gas engine.
I never understood the people that said it looks like a Rivian. I think the Rivian is ugly, I would never consider a Rivian but here I am considering a Scout solely because it looks awesome! NoW I have to convince myself to buy an EV.
I’m also NOT a fan of the Porsche looking headlights. 😊
We're right there with ya, except the headlights. Love the quad beam running lights
My only reservation would be getting a 1st gen product.
The similarity is in the Terra and R1T exterior, side and front views.
New subscriber here, I like all this timely Scout info and deep dives that you are doing.
Just want to mention that I have an i3 Rex and have never had any trouble maintaining 70mph, although I have not tried going over any mountain pass highways on an empty battery. The Range Extender automatically turns on at 6% batt level but almost every i3 owner has enabled the Hold State of Charge feature to let them turn on the Rex at any battery percentage under 75%. The Rex takes a bit of time to ramp up and varies how hard it works depending on how fast the battery is draining. The most I've ever seen it fall behind is 3% below the hold percentage. (Enabling Hold and immediately accelerating uphill to hwy speeds and maintaining uphill for few miles)
Thanks for subscribing!
I am fine with 150mi EV IF the range extender gets me 400+ miles with sustained performance. 150mile range means I’ll be in EV mode most of my day-to-day
Agreed. At a minimum
I love these videos. Your Scout coverage is fantastic. It's like having a beer with your buddies and talking about trucks. Great format.
Appreciate that!
I was guessing a 100 mile EV range before gas kicks in. 150 miles is generous. I have a 70 mile round trip commute. 100 miles is perfect. 150, and I will never use gas except for roadtrips. Can’t wait.
This is the way
Scout really needs to make the EREV generator an option you can drop in after the fact. It’d be great to have range extender alternatives - second battery, gas generator, fuel cell, etc.
Fantastic episode guys! Great coverage of topics. Also, Kudos on the being seen by Scout Motors and to be included on future media releases... that's awesome!! Keep it up guys! looking forward to the next one!
Thanks! Still gotta get some future content on the calendar with y'all
@ look forward to it.. I’ll hold the camera for your scout features 😂😂
We bought a Rivian R1S not for the upscale interior, but for the well rounded capabilities (and 7 seats). I would have bought a cheaper, more basic trim if it was available, but luckily we had early pricing so that helped. We have the max pack and it's been great for going up to the mountains and back again, and also for a couple camping trips towing our camper. We also have a bmw i3 with range extender and unfortunately fortunately?) only the range extender has given us problems over 130k miles. Ours is coded so we can turn on the engine below 75% charge. I really hope the Scout has all the capabilities they promise!
That's a sweet combo. Love the i3
Workhorse ill-fated W15 was another study in ideal range/engine. They were considering ~60KWh. I think reliable daily range (including coldest/hottest day of the year) is a practically enough. So, ~80mi would be plenty for me. Also, like the Volt's "hold" mode, this discussion needs to push Scout to be sure and let users set the series charging voluntarily, thru a selected mode. For example, when approaching a mountain pass while towing. Practically all PHEVs default to exhausting their battery, first.
100%
Here for all things Scout EV.
Like y’all…I’m a Traveller Harvester resi holder. Decided to move my “new car shekels “ from the new Land Cruiser to new Scout. Greatly appreciate the deep dive on the REX tech as this has definitely been top of mind for me since getting in digital line for my new rig. Anxiously awaiting formal feedback on geni size…as this will make or break the truck…and maybe the company. Will probably take some guff from diehard EV’ers out there but I would gladly sacrifice the frunk for a more capable geni that would ultimately have much easier PM access…just sayin.
That said, 150 mi (if you can fully charge) should be fit for 99% of this market, one would think…especially since you have the gas fallback plan.
Lastly, as a legacy ‘77 IHS II owner (1st vehicle I ever owned), I always thought Rivian ripped off heritage Scout design…which I liked…but I could never get the front fascia out of my mind. Walt Disney called & wants his cartoon truck back…
Appreciate the comments!
Great discussion. I love the design of the vehicle. The way its based on the old scouts but modernized and unique in its own right is amazing. And there's so much attention to detail which is what drew me into Rivian as well. I think the Scout actually looks nicer and is more instantly appealing to me. The Rivian had to grow on me a bit. And though you just touched on it a bit the interior of the scout looks better than the Rivian as well. It's frustrating that companies seem so adverse to physical buttons and handles because they seem to think Tesla's way is the only way.
Well said
In design vs Rivian- definitively this is not a badge engineered Rivian. Completely different platform- Rivian is unibody w/ independent suspension; Scouts are body on frame with solid rear axle (independent front- like Bronco).
As to overall design- keep in mind, when Ineos unveiled the Grenadier which is clearly inspired by vintage Defender Land Rover sued and European court agreed with mines that, comparing vintage G Wagen, Bronco, Scout, Jeeps…there’s a built in language for dedicated off-roaders that flows from the intended use- squared off, big greenhouse, etc.
You see the same thing sports/muscle cars- taking into account goals, performance, aero…they end up looking very similar.
The comparisons are pretty lazy. Great feedback
The Rivian has a strong C-pillar and the Scout has a strong D-pillar, that is enough to say that the cars look completely different from the sideview, and they are completely different on the front and rear-view.
And as you say, the Scout was out of the market for the last 44 years, imagine how many designers have looked at the Scout in the last 40 years to get some ideas on how to design a rugged SUV.
You got that right!
I want an EV first and a range extender second. I’ll be disappointed if the EV range is less than half of the gas range. I don’t want to be running the gas engine except in an emergency.
Same, reconsidering the RE version I reserved now.
@ I reserved a second one. The non-range extender version.
What's your typical daily use?
Expound on that!
@@ROMRreviews I don’t really drive daily anymore but when I do use the car, it’s about a 125 mile round trip once a week or so.
I think round headlights would look so much better. I get they’re trying not to look like Bronco and Wrangler but that’s such a classic look for the era they all came from.
Having driven full electric for 5 years now, I’m disappointed to learn the electric range is only 150. I was hoping for 225-250. I tow a trailer often with my Model Y and was excited about the REX model because when I do tow my Polaris Ranger, the range takes a hit for sure. I may switch my reservation over to the full electric Traveler. At the rate the Tesla Supercharger network is being built out, the REX may not be needed. In any event, a great looking vehicle and fantastic content guys!
How often do you tow? Hope we earned a subscription!
Definitely earned a sub! I have a 5 x 8 trailer that the Ranger barely fits, midsize, but I probably hook it up a couple of times a month. The Model Y is essentially my truck with the trailer.
Just a couple of dads setting up studio “shop” in a garage. 😂 keep it up!
This is the way
Ok guys you got me, I subscribed for the Scout content.
🙏 appreciate that
The Scout designs look better to me than the Rivians, and I don't see the similarities that others seem to see, especially the fronts.
Yessir. The design stands on its own merit
Thanks!
Welcome!
It's really awesome guys because you don't have to wait for a Scout you can just go buy the R1S or R1T because its the same vehicle.
Radically different vehicles.
@@ROMRreviews Lol enjoy waiting for nothing but a lesser product.
That's exciting! I had no idea Rivian made a body on frame vehicle with solid rear axle, mechanical lockers and a sway bar disconnect. Please link!
@@CaptSlowMTB Oh I see you are talking mechanical differences and trying to be cute, well guess what the Rivian will out perform the Scout with the setup they use in their new Quad Motor set up. Maybe do some research before setting your RUclips fingers on fire. It doesn't matter how the mechanics are done if it out performs in every way. Good luck to you and your two to three year wait for less performance and capability.
@@darinbrazil5496 I am very cute
Was this a surprise to folks? Pretty sure they said the EREV was 150 mile electric range at the launch (or one of the launch day RUclips reviews).
We really need more info on how this Generator will work.
We definitely do
Have fun waiting for your scout it will be a while.
We do nothing but wait
@@ROMRreviews Yes and get ready for more of the waiting.
I hope they make a 3 row traveler version on the size of the terra with an old school raised roof over like the older Land Rover discovery
Love this
I live in a yurt and want to haul my horse to nice places to ride. I want to use the battery for my daily yurt needs and I want the extender to make sure I don't get stuck out in the boonies with my horse. Under 300 miles of battery range disappoints me.
Interesting. We would think your particular use case is more suited to the longer gas range, shorter electric range. You can always run the range extender as a generator if you somehow exhaust the battery at the yurt.
I was thinking about the Harvester today. Scout has said that 80% of the vehicle will be able to work in by the owner. Does this include the Harvester in it? Or is it part of the 20% that is not?
Fantastic question.
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The gas powered generator will (assume) be more efficient to charge a battery over powering the car itself. Based on the numbers you give - 350 miles of range from the generator will require how much gas?
If you're using the ram charger as a proxy, expect 20mpg in RE mode, so that would be 17.5 gallons.
You guys are really trying hard, first impressions and reactions are correct most of the time and you said it yourself most people that saw it initially said Rivian and guess what its because Rivian and VW are working together on this project, so just stop with the silliness because it doesn't even matter one its more you being offended for some reason.
Rivian and VW established a joint venture to develop next gen vehicle architecture for electronics and control systems, absolutely nothing to do with design
@@ROMRreviews Yes and if you believe their first vehicle together will not be more hands on than normal you are in denial. The form factor is 100% Rivian but for some reason you don't see that which lends me to believe you are blind or naive to say the least.
We reserved both the Scouts (Traveler and Terra) and have a reservation on the Rivian R2 and the Ram REV/Ramcharger.
About the same time the Scout is out, we will be looking to purchase 1-2 vehicles (depending on affordability). What has us nervous now (without getting political) is the reports about the incoming Trump administration’s desire to remove the EV credit.
Removal of credits provides downward pressure on prices. We've seen this happen already.
Yes 150 miles EV only because the battery will be much smaller since the battery is the most expensive piece to these vehicles still. So this will be about 50KWH battery size or so. You can't do 350 miles EV only with that large of a battery cost and then also put an engine in there and think it's going to be affordable. You are going to be better off with the full EV version with that set up because you will remove the complexity of what you as the consumer are going to have to service.
Thanks for the comments. Seems reasonable.
@@ROMRreviews Oh no I don't know what I am talking about here at all right.
You compared an early Bronco to a Scout II. Why didn’t you compare it to the Scout 80 or 800?
Are you new? Do you not realize the Bronco was a copy of the original Scout?
You might've missed the point!
@@ROMRreviews it seemed to me that you were saying how similar the Bronco was, in styling, to the Scout II. It really wasn’t that similar at all. It was near identical to the original Scout though.
If people think the new Scout Traveler looks like a new Bronco, I think it is worth pointing out that the original Bronco was a copy of the original Scout. Just like you are pointing out that if the Scout Motors vehicles seems to look like Rivians, it because Rivian looks like the old Scouts.
Rivian grave robbed its style from the Scout, thinking it would stay buried, but now it’s resurrected and making Rivian look like an imitation.
@@ROMRreviews
P.S. keep up the good work, and please continue to cover Scout Motors.
@@williamweatherby8417 we were pointing out all the similarities across multiple platforms from the era and how Rivian drew upon classic American SUVs. Not really comparing bronco, scout, suburban or jeeps other than they an reflect common themes from the era
Oh now you are back tracking saying its really hard to make anything that doesn't look like something else, you guys are hilarious.
We don't follow
@@ROMRreviews You obviously are not self aware if thats the case, try watching yourself.
Cayman 2.0 boxer makes enough power
Would be epic
You’re incorrect about the i3
Tell us!
There is no compelling reason for the Scout Terra over a TRX or Raptor or Gladiator or several others. Why go with the complexity of battery/engine from a start-up manufacturer over a proven ICE off-roader. The Terra is 2-3 years away. Pure battery EVs trucks will surpass 500 miles by that time.
Bring back horse and buggy!
For a large segment of the population an EV truck with 500 miles of range is just as useless as one with 350 miles of range.
Lol ya they have a third model which is based on the Rivian R2, how blind are you guys.
Looks like you're misunderstanding the joint venture between the two companies
Dumbest take. EV range minimum 300. Gas Range minimum 100. Is the best combo. PHEV at 50 is crazy. 40 range is crazy like that’s won’t cover southern or SoCal home and back.
Take it up with Newton
Sounds heavy. Srsly, some of us have lifts and never expected our daily drivers could exceed their maximum (frequently 9k lbs).
Major major disappointment if the all EV range is 150… If it’s less than 250 I actually might cancel my reservation.
You won't be alone. But let's let it play out. Battery tech could change.
Not less than 350 miles EV range.
We'll see what happens
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