Picked it last match out of desperation and I did pretty good, supports were bad and griefing and we lost every rax by min 30, we kept defending until min 65 and lost It's a good tanky hero and since Blade Mail is amazing, it's another option for a BM carrier E is busted tbh Pick everything else first tho lmao
@@m15t3rdud3 both, depends on the gameplay tho. on some games you prefer chasing the enemy, on some games the enemy cant run anyway so you prefer max 2nd skill
As an offlane player I'm surprised to not see Kunkka on the list. I've been having over 70 percent win rate with the hero in this patch, simply spamming him. He's really strong and versatile, one game I rush vessel into aghs halberd shard sheepstick and another game I go silver edge bkb ac etc. Everything just works.
Yupe, X-mark is very versatile. Securing kills or free tp healing. Tidebringer will make it difficult for their carry as well because they will need to tank the damage if they want to last hit (melee).
What make kunkka viable is that he can outlevel enemies and then win the lane by his skillset, which is why he is strong niche mid last pick, but as offlane playing 2 heroes that might not be the case, strong lane carry like mk/ursa/jugg might outrun offlane kunkka easily, but then again if you manage to not lose the lane, his skill set probably the best in first 15 min in the game make kunkka with decent setup boost your win in the earlygame teamfight in the midgame lategame, kunkka are weaker if he doesnt have upperhand, levelwise and networthwise, while those in A and S tier, with their bonkers skill set can make huge thing in teamfight (esp es, primal and dawn are pretty much no brainer, just bkb and throw urself and somehow win the teamfight) while kunkka need to time it wisely to have decent teamfight
she has been yes but until recently doom, visage, aura buyer are better than her. others are now nerfed and now she;s buffed. hence, she's the best now
I was outside of dota for maybe 2 years, came back and got my mmr downgraded from 4500 to 2800, starting from 4.33 learnt dawnbreaker and with her jumped to 4000 mmr currently. Amazing hero, outlanes almost every carry, counters such menaces as pa and slark with her carry build, counters menaces as lc/void/axe with her aghanims build, as Jenkins said she can farm safe places and get her items and instantly join a fight all over the map. Except silencer is in the game
Ever since the Universal heroes were a thing, I started playing Veno like crazy. I always loved that hero since it was among the first I've ever played in Allstars. Carry veno was always my favorite pocket pick if the enemy team picked heroes I could wreck, but since he's universal, my carry build on his ass is just the MOST fun I can have in Dota right now.. Sure there are heroes that does, what Veno does, better... but damn it's fun to bully them and just spam autoattacks on some squishy support, spreading the toxic cancer, Q them as well, here have the ult and they just can't do NOTHING. Man I love playing toxic shite in Dota
I have been playing dawnbreaker 5 for some time now and it was already dirty before those buffs. During lane stage you just need an orb of venom and can get kills with blood grenades very reliably.
@@jeffreyandia5179 a) They said 'very reliably' b) Most kills are worth more than 300 gold. Enemy loses 100-200 gold, you get 100-200 gold, enemy loses xp and farm, their allies in lane are less safe until respawn. If it leads to one kill it's totally worth it.
If you are a fan of this strategy the orb of corrosion upgrade is worthwhile against glass cannons or anyone who rely on expensive items to disengage later in the game
I got curious when you said venge was S tier, so i just tried it in a ranked match... and got a rampage minute 20 Adding it to my offlane picks for sure
1:25 Jenkins. I don’t know if it’s your face, your voice, or the fact that bristleback was my best hero before the new scepter, but this made me shit my pants and then was forced to break from this video to clean it off my legs. Thank you
It's the second time (speeed also) I see someone talking about the brew buff in 7.34 without mentioning the biggest buff.. The fact that the brawl up (the X3 bonuses) lasts 8 seconds instead of 5 is mad.
Kunkka not making the list while I just got from ancient rank to 7k mmr in 300 games playing kunkka offlane is quite surprising for me. Maybe I should hope noone discovers how broken the hero is so I can get my free mmr
Centaur aghs interaction with legion duel is hilarious. The dual isn't ended but the other party can no longer auto whoever is in the cart and just follows you back into your team while getting beaten up by the card dude
As an offlane player, i've been spamming Necrophos for 10 days now. Rush Sange & Kaya then Aghs, Heart and Shiva. Gollyyyyyyyy enemy team literally melts
Nah Sand King spiralled because of the busted shard, which got nerfed big time. Sandstorm always moved too slow to really be effective, and is often just worse than regular sandstorm because you can't hide at the edges anymore. Also the enemy can deduce where you are from how it's moving.
As a thorough Dawnbreaker enjoyer this patch. Might as well be committing treason against myself for spreading this information. Silencer is the hardest counter against Dawn. As he literally disables the core kit that makes Dawn what she is.
I play ES offlane for so long even before the patch and my friend play venge as support too we dont know that both are OP so we just think we already git gut in the game by destroying the enemies safe lane regardless of what they pick
@@bobdudder4841 I'm playing both 4 and 5. 1. Arcane boots. 2. Depending on situation Glimmer or Solar Crest. Pipe is also consideration if offlane isn't building it. 3. Disassemble Arcane boots to make Lotus Orb. If it's a really good Lotus game I skip 2. 4. I mostly win at this stage but if not I go for Halberd or other utility item.
underlord (at least in pubs) feels more like B tier to me. he can reliably play lanes at least 50/50, thus gets tanky enough to be parked somewhere where no one else wants to go. sure the enemy can kill him, but that takes 3 heroes , and are you sure that underlords team isnt going to just take a tower in the meantime? and if they go for your teammates, just like dawn, you can be whereever your team needs you. if your team wants to 5-man, you can lead the charge, and run at whatever your team wants, knowing that if the enemy blows all their stuff on you they dont have it for your carry and mid, and you can bb and rejoin anyway. or build agha and watch your enemys suffer as you can global -force a bkb from them every time they team up. hell, in lategame, you can build refresher and blink to put all in all 6 pits in a fight, and no enemy will ever get to walk anywhere. sure, i am not divine or something, im archon, but 68% winrate is enough for my taste that it has to be more than C
I think the biggest issue with underlord right now is that a lot of meta carries are very strong against him in lane. Every game that I see underlord (4.5-5k mmr games) against slark/gyro/drow/ursa he gets shit on and then does nothing most of the game.
You should try playing slark in pos 4. 3 most important items on him are phase boots, sentry wards, and harpoon, also max W. In the past 2 months I climbed 4 ranks up because with slark I was capable of doing everyone's job meaning it's the only hero that can solo the game.
had pos3 np in 2 games in a row and the first one went carry items, the 2nd one went midas aghs, we needed spirit vessel and utility in both games, we lost
Offlane Necro is my bread and butter right now it does not miss. I played mid with it too got shit on during lane their midlane left me quite a bit after stomping me and I caught up so easily. He needs so little to impact the game that's why I think he's so good.
I love dawnbreaker. Have her at lvl 30 My one complaint about her in offlane is that I feel like she’s taking the slot of the initiator. I almost prefer her at pos 4 with heal items for the counter initiative. Then have a good initiator pos 3. Tide, sk, razor
You're playing it wrong then, DB (Pos 3) needs to go and soak damage while healing from her Q and passive, ult is almost non essential to her kit You need to bait ults, right clicks and rotations, hella strong hero to start tf
@@jeffreyandia5179 oh I like her in both positions believe me. I would just prefer a better team fight initiation ult. If you have a warlock 5 or something then issue taken care of
@@gagesmythe6635 I don't think you need a good initiation ult with her kit, that's what's strong about her Go dive head first, soak damage, if teammates are struggling ult them mid fight and keep pushing your enemies back, get a blade mail and a bkb and keep hitting them, by lvl 20 and just a bkb you'll have 3k hp Win the lane, get a blade mail, farm a lot, ult for team fights (to soak XP as well), dive your enemy carry, win in around 40 mins by a huge margin It doesn't get easier than that Don't make her a right clicker tho, that goes against her whole thing
Her laning kit is very nice, but really she is broken for her ult. to be able to defend your towers and push lanes while saving your team is the broken concept.@@jeffreyandia5179
Let’s go earth spirits I’ve been playing him as position three since last patch granted it was really bad last patch butttt this patch it’s good Jenkins approved Im so happy lol
man the can nerf dawn all they want. but if they give her hammer a auto attack on hit(even if its just on the first hit target) that would be somenmuch more fun and it would fit her kit way better. similar to PA's Q.
I'm kinda sad they wrecked invoker from casting wizard to a right clicking barbarian. The hero doesn't shine anymore and doesn't show any attractiveness in learning and using complex combos for new players. It has 38-46 dmg which is lowest of pretty any mid hero therefore in early lanning Its hard trade and with quas regen removed its not easy to stand in lane.
I think you are sleeping on bristles aghs, combined with his shard and a couple stacks of goo you pop that for instant 6 quills and delete people. ive gotten countless doubles and triples with it. It also instantly stacks his warpath if it fell off for whatever reason.
completely disagree about BB. In fact I just got 78% winrate with this hero and gained 850 mmr. Rush mid, buy -> bottle -> pt -> aghs (14-17 mins) -> bloodstone. Ez game
i dont see pudge there, would like to know your opinion on it. i'm an immortal player and i have 68% wr on pudge with 800 games and imo pudge offlane with an oracle or skywrath is just gg
How do you even play offlane Venge? I play her regularly as support, but as a carry I never know what items to go for. Also her ulty is hard to use as carry, since every time i swap somebody I put myself in a worse position, this is fine on a support, but wasteful of carry.
Literally the hero has the most versatile itemization which is good and bad. It's good if you have a lot of awareness of the game and you can't choose the right item to carry. Bad because its not easy and if you choose bad can be game losing. But an itemization I like in nature prophet offlane is: Solar crest - treads - atos/orchid. Maxing Q and teleport. You are a menace on the map. If you go atos and need to scale to late game you can upgrade into gleipnir. Possible late game items are: silver edge / vyse / aghanims / halberd / bloodthorn / cuirass / bkb / lotus orb. You must realize if you need to do damage or to disable or to hit buildings according to what your team lacks You must be always farming safe / pushing lanes that your team can not and checking the map for quick plays. Don't lose time forcing plays that your team might not follow. Buy wards place the aggressively and be ready to join you teammates always (on the reasonable fights). A common noob mistake for this hero is to join every fight and feed. You must join most fights but know which you shouldnt Specially since if you don't join a bad fight it means you have distraction to push other lane and maybe rat doto and compensate your feeding teammates
Jenkins excluding pudge from the offlane tierlist so he can actually play an S tier hero without it getting banned, nice
Literally when someone play pudge in enemy team is free mmr for me. Worst hero.
Still picked or banned on every single game
@@Dirkulos I'll ban him every game just so my team doesn't pick him.
Picked it last match out of desperation and I did pretty good, supports were bad and griefing and we lost every rax by min 30, we kept defending until min 65 and lost
It's a good tanky hero and since Blade Mail is amazing, it's another option for a BM carrier
E is busted tbh
Pick everything else first tho lmao
@@ЙорданЙорданов-л9э Pudge is ok right now I don't know what you on. Just gotta play him as you're supposed to
Still cant believe they gave us Sand King players hope he might see TI play and then took it away 4 days later
I’ve been going veil first item before blink and it’s been very successful sk is still good if u play like a chad
@@TheArranBicKmanAight SK player and resident scrub here need build details. This for a stun or sandstorm max? Sounds fun as hell
@@m15t3rdud3 both, depends on the gameplay tho. on some games you prefer chasing the enemy, on some games the enemy cant run anyway so you prefer max 2nd skill
they really hate sand king do they
There will be another patch before ti
The 10s clip of enigma where he did nothing and died pretty much sums up the hero.
For Dawn Breaker, Centaur and Kunkka: Blade Mail > Core Item > BKB > Armor and you're done in 40 mins or less
Early echo + bkb is pretty strong on dawn
As an offlane player I'm surprised to not see Kunkka on the list. I've been having over 70 percent win rate with the hero in this patch, simply spamming him. He's really strong and versatile, one game I rush vessel into aghs halberd shard sheepstick and another game I go silver edge bkb ac etc. Everything just works.
What is your rank?
Yupe, X-mark is very versatile. Securing kills or free tp healing. Tidebringer will make it difficult for their carry as well because they will need to tank the damage if they want to last hit (melee).
his better in mid
What make kunkka viable is that he can outlevel enemies and then win the lane by his skillset, which is why he is strong niche mid last pick, but as offlane playing 2 heroes that might not be the case, strong lane carry like mk/ursa/jugg might outrun offlane kunkka easily, but then again if you manage to not lose the lane, his skill set probably the best in first 15 min in the game make kunkka with decent setup boost your win in the earlygame teamfight
in the midgame lategame, kunkka are weaker if he doesnt have upperhand, levelwise and networthwise, while those in A and S tier, with their bonkers skill set can make huge thing in teamfight (esp es, primal and dawn are pretty much no brainer, just bkb and throw urself and somehow win the teamfight) while kunkka need to time it wisely to have decent teamfight
@@shiroyt4185tidebringer the wave will have your creep pushed and you not getting xp at all lol
Queuing all roles gives you pos3 every 5 games, so I appreciate this.
Be good at a hero and play it in every role xD
I’m Offlane main and majority of the time I queue all 5 I’m getting Offlane 0_o
Dawnbreaker has been a strong offlane for quite a while tbh
I’ve been spamming her mod for a good while, she’s strong in general.
i just started player her for the first time this patch. im 4-1 and im not an offlaner. the 1 loss had an abandon on our team
she has been yes but until recently doom, visage, aura buyer are better than her. others are now nerfed and now she;s buffed. hence, she's the best now
I main her since i fell in love with the kit on release, but now feels better and better❤
The bristle aghs does a ton of damage though, if you use it on someone who already has 3+ stacks of quills on them the damage is crazy.
I was outside of dota for maybe 2 years, came back and got my mmr downgraded from 4500 to 2800, starting from 4.33 learnt dawnbreaker and with her jumped to 4000 mmr currently. Amazing hero, outlanes almost every carry, counters such menaces as pa and slark with her carry build, counters menaces as lc/void/axe with her aghanims build, as Jenkins said she can farm safe places and get her items and instantly join a fight all over the map. Except silencer is in the game
I love bristlebacks new aghs, i like that you can solo the shard building things at 20 mins
Ever since the Universal heroes were a thing, I started playing Veno like crazy.
I always loved that hero since it was among the first I've ever played in Allstars.
Carry veno was always my favorite pocket pick if the enemy team picked heroes I could wreck, but since he's universal, my carry build on his ass is just the MOST fun I can have in Dota right now..
Sure there are heroes that does, what Veno does, better... but damn it's fun to bully them and just spam autoattacks on some squishy support, spreading the toxic cancer, Q them as well, here have the ult and they just can't do NOTHING.
Man I love playing toxic shite in Dota
I have been playing dawnbreaker 5 for some time now and it was already dirty before those buffs. During lane stage you just need an orb of venom and can get kills with blood grenades very reliably.
You're losing 300 gold for an occasional kill, don't do that
@@jeffreyandia5179 Honestly orb of venom are a pretty good item regardlessx and 275 gold for dumpstering your lane honestly seems good
@@jeffreyandia5179 a) They said 'very reliably'
b) Most kills are worth more than 300 gold. Enemy loses 100-200 gold, you get 100-200 gold, enemy loses xp and farm, their allies in lane are less safe until respawn. If it leads to one kill it's totally worth it.
@@Hankblue blood grenades are doing 75% of the job, orb is def not worth it
but hey it's just a tip
If you are a fan of this strategy the orb of corrosion upgrade is worthwhile against glass cannons or anyone who rely on expensive items to disengage later in the game
I got curious when you said venge was S tier, so i just tried it in a ranked match... and got a rampage minute 20
Adding it to my offlane picks for sure
I am playing her on all roles since they buffed her attack speed, so op hitting with 200 dmg w just a dragon lance and 2 bracers
Is venge good as hitter? Because all i know, venge is only played as support, never try her as offlaner
philactery after aghs destroys everything
@@newtonschoice1803 Venge can be a solid Pos 1 if you really want to. Pro teams have tried playing her as Pos 1
@@newtonschoice1803 universal hero with % dmg increase, hell yeah
Nyx pos3 . Viable slayer of pos1 and 2 with considerable duration of stuns
1:25 Jenkins. I don’t know if it’s your face, your voice, or the fact that bristleback was my best hero before the new scepter, but this made me shit my pants and then was forced to break from this video to clean it off my legs. Thank you
The talent changes on SB still quite a nerf but at late game, unlimited bkb piercing disable still really good. Nice tier list all in all.
It's the second time (speeed also) I see someone talking about the brew buff in 7.34 without mentioning the biggest buff.. The fact that the brawl up (the X3 bonuses) lasts 8 seconds instead of 5 is mad.
Kunkka not making the list while I just got from ancient rank to 7k mmr in 300 games playing kunkka offlane is quite surprising for me. Maybe I should hope noone discovers how broken the hero is so I can get my free mmr
Anyone remember in dota1 where sandstorm for sandking was stationary?
I've been trying Undying offlane and its quite busted. Soul ring --> Arcane Boots --> Aghanim and then either upgraded arcane, crimson guard or pipe.
Well this video didn't age well. Turns out bristle ags is top tier.
Centaur aghs interaction with legion duel is hilarious. The dual isn't ended but the other party can no longer auto whoever is in the cart and just follows you back into your team while getting beaten up by the card dude
Venge and tide picked together makes me cry every time stop swapping in the ravage and nuke my armor
Love to see LC be good but not busted so I can continue to gaslight myself into thinking I'm good and not just playing a broken hero lol
Right click brew with a couple team items thrown in like solar or pipe feels really good right now.
As an offlane player, i've been spamming Necrophos for 10 days now. Rush Sange & Kaya then Aghs, Heart and Shiva. Gollyyyyyyyy enemy team literally melts
Nah Sand King spiralled because of the busted shard, which got nerfed big time. Sandstorm always moved too slow to really be effective, and is often just worse than regular sandstorm because you can't hide at the edges anymore. Also the enemy can deduce where you are from how it's moving.
Shard nerf is just a big fuck you from ice frog
As a thorough Dawnbreaker enjoyer this patch. Might as well be committing treason against myself for spreading this information. Silencer is the hardest counter against Dawn. As he literally disables the core kit that makes Dawn what she is.
Can you explain?
Good tier list. Agree with most of it. However Bristleback is not shit tier. Late game once he has aghs and bloodstone he is almost unkillable.
I play ES offlane for so long even before the patch and my friend play venge as support too we dont know that both are OP so we just think we already git gut in the game by destroying the enemies safe lane regardless of what they pick
"What else is he hiding" love it
rofl
The voices command me. I do as they please. Master. Master.
i get ancient only spamming necro offlane, if u have a good pos 4 that presses the lane with you, it's usually a win
BSJ doing Carry Tier Lists, Jenkins doing Offlaner Tier Lists, but who is doing Support and Mid Tier Lists? Sadeg
Support tier lists are available from ZQuixotix. They quite reliable.
Mid unfortunately i don't have a clue.
ZQuixotix did the support tier list. Both 4/5
Zquixotix for the win look him up
I recommend Zquixotix too. He doesn't have a lot of subs yet but the content is top notch
Henry is a mid player.
istg when these types of video release, now i have enemies who offlane dawnbreaker and my offlane broodmama
Holy shit! He remembered his RUclips password! But seriously, I have missed your teirlist videos.
25:33 The entire bit about NP is so damn true it makes me laugh. Such a busted hero xD
I'm at 8 winstreak with Dawnbreaker support. She's incredibly powerful right now.
What’s your build? And are you playing her 4 or 5
@@bobdudder4841 I'm playing both 4 and 5.
1. Arcane boots.
2. Depending on situation Glimmer or Solar Crest. Pipe is also consideration if offlane isn't building it.
3. Disassemble Arcane boots to make Lotus Orb. If it's a really good Lotus game I skip 2.
4. I mostly win at this stage but if not I go for Halberd or other utility item.
underlord (at least in pubs) feels more like B tier to me.
he can reliably play lanes at least 50/50, thus gets tanky enough to be parked somewhere where no one else wants to go. sure the enemy can kill him, but that takes 3 heroes ,
and are you sure that underlords team isnt going to just take a tower in the meantime?
and if they go for your teammates, just like dawn, you can be whereever your team needs you.
if your team wants to 5-man, you can lead the charge, and run at whatever your team wants, knowing that if the enemy blows all their stuff on you they dont have it for your carry and mid, and you can bb and rejoin anyway.
or build agha and watch your enemys suffer as you can global -force a bkb from them every time they team up.
hell, in lategame, you can build refresher and blink to put all in all 6 pits in a fight, and no enemy will ever get to walk anywhere.
sure, i am not divine or something, im archon, but 68% winrate is enough for my taste that it has to be more than C
I think the biggest issue with underlord right now is that a lot of meta carries are very strong against him in lane. Every game that I see underlord (4.5-5k mmr games) against slark/gyro/drow/ursa he gets shit on and then does nothing most of the game.
You should try playing slark in pos 4. 3 most important items on him are phase boots, sentry wards, and harpoon, also max W. In the past 2 months I climbed 4 ranks up because with slark I was capable of doing everyone's job meaning it's the only hero that can solo the game.
OMAGAD JENKINS TIER LIST VIDEO THE BEST SURPRISE I COULD GET
had pos3 np in 2 games in a row and the first one went carry items, the 2nd one went midas aghs, we needed spirit vessel and utility in both games, we lost
28:55 as an offlane, this is the first time i did not skipped to the end
All of my offlane heroes are in the meta right now and I gained 800+ mmr this patch. Lfg! 😂
Offlane Necro is my bread and butter right now it does not miss. I played mid with it too got shit on during lane their midlane left me quite a bit after stomping me and I caught up so easily. He needs so little to impact the game that's why I think he's so good.
eh its really ez to crap on necro. he has is super hit or miss on offlane which is not what u want.
who remeber this guy from dota alchemy when they used to make tier list
I am not much of a dota player but i like warlock and played him a lot in offlane and it works most of the time if my teammates didnt feed the enemym
I love dawnbreaker. Have her at lvl 30 My one complaint about her in offlane is that I feel like she’s taking the slot of the initiator. I almost prefer her at pos 4 with heal items for the counter initiative. Then have a good initiator pos 3. Tide, sk, razor
You're playing it wrong then, DB (Pos 3) needs to go and soak damage while healing from her Q and passive, ult is almost non essential to her kit
You need to bait ults, right clicks and rotations, hella strong hero to start tf
@@jeffreyandia5179 oh I like her in both positions believe me. I would just prefer a better team fight initiation ult. If you have a warlock 5 or something then issue taken care of
@@gagesmythe6635 I don't think you need a good initiation ult with her kit, that's what's strong about her
Go dive head first, soak damage, if teammates are struggling ult them mid fight and keep pushing your enemies back, get a blade mail and a bkb and keep hitting them, by lvl 20 and just a bkb you'll have 3k hp
Win the lane, get a blade mail, farm a lot, ult for team fights (to soak XP as well), dive your enemy carry, win in around 40 mins by a huge margin
It doesn't get easier than that
Don't make her a right clicker tho, that goes against her whole thing
I agree here - Sb charging with Dawn coming in after is the way
AOE stun
Her laning kit is very nice, but really she is broken for her ult. to be able to defend your towers and push lanes while saving your team is the broken concept.@@jeffreyandia5179
didn't expect that message at the end.🤣
Let’s go earth spirits I’ve been playing him as position three since last patch granted it was really bad last patch butttt this patch it’s good
Jenkins approved Im so happy lol
it'd be lovely to know more about what data you're basing this on, cuz the dotabuff guides for Venge have zero Core games, and idk where else to look.
you need to do more of these
Jenkins, when hes talking about best offlaner slark
Also Jenkins, after slark got 1 mini fix on his depth shroud - emm no
Elder titan doesnt get mentioned, but i think he's rly strong rn
i have won with bb yesterday, it was such a struggle and the dude thought he carried us and he rushed aghs before even vanguard
man the can nerf dawn all they want. but if they give her hammer a auto attack on hit(even if its just on the first hit target) that would be somenmuch more fun and it would fit her kit way better. similar to PA's Q.
imagine basher proc' ing or make the deso even stronger since she goes deso like 98% time.
aghs scepter tier list would be nice
Nice offlane List!
So sad about Sand King, he is my fav and most played hero, I've been waiting for years for him to be good and it lasted 4 days :(
No need to be sad, Abaddon is a d hero and I still crush games with him, also on the plus side if people think they are bad they won't get nerfed more
@@lourencobredademarco4024 yes but I think sk is very bad, like even by playing well it’s hard to have good impact and win games
as a lvl 30sk player, i agree that he is so weak now after the nerfs. that 1week of OP was fun for a short while.
This man knows his stuff. S Tier is for real.
just wanna say, you're lookin good there Jenk
I'm kinda sad they wrecked invoker from casting wizard to a right clicking barbarian. The hero doesn't shine anymore and doesn't show any attractiveness in learning and using complex combos for new players. It has 38-46 dmg which is lowest of pretty any mid hero therefore in early lanning Its hard trade and with quas regen removed its not easy to stand in lane.
last time I was this early, the hobos attacks were a meme...
Give axe some "rolling with the punches" shit where he reduces incoming attack damage by 90 percent when that attack causes the spin.
I think you are sleeping on bristles aghs, combined with his shard and a couple stacks of goo you pop that for instant 6 quills and delete people. ive gotten countless doubles and triples with it. It also instantly stacks his warpath if it fell off for whatever reason.
Any suggestions on build for IO Core?
completely disagree about BB. In fact I just got 78% winrate with this hero and gained 850 mmr. Rush mid, buy -> bottle -> pt -> aghs (14-17 mins) -> bloodstone. Ez game
meanwhile in dpc... timbersaw just made a rampage
Anyone knows how to get that first blood effect, I’ve been searching for it but didn’t find it anywhere
nice video can you do mid and anther leaner pls
my man never brings up ol' Omniknight
i have no idea what this hero's role is lmao
12:30 Necro could counter nullifier with his shard skill
I don't see elder titan in the list. I just smashed a morph with that hero recently 😂
Massacred my boy Sand King.
bristle is kind of broken, I really do not agree on giving him the DOGSHT tier
brood armor being negative one might be a thing
Thanks Jenkins
If I pick venge or prophet as a pos3 in crusader I am probably getting 4 reports and the entire team giving up from the start.
where is omniknight? that hero with shard deals a lot of damage, and he can protect his team aswell, idk, i would put omni tier B+ at least
Too stunned by jenkins forehead yo focus
Unless Enigma gets buffed, I doubt we'll see any Blackhole in TI
Pls do it all role before new patch 😭
dawn breaker is strong af combined with BoT she can be everywhere
The corrections feels like Linus tech tips 😂
Where are hard-carries and other offlaners such as lifestealer, wraith king, pudge, lone druid, clockwerk and so on
Please post supports ASAP. Love you jenkins
where is chaos knight?
i thought the garbage bin hobbo kidnapped him but the fucker returns
Hey Jenkins, what about omni?
i dont see pudge there, would like to know your opinion on it. i'm an immortal player and i have 68% wr on pudge with 800 games and imo pudge offlane with an oracle or skywrath is just gg
How do you even play offlane Venge? I play her regularly as support, but as a carry I never know what items to go for. Also her ulty is hard to use as carry, since every time i swap somebody I put myself in a worse position, this is fine on a support, but wasteful of carry.
aghs. You basically have 2 lives with aghs and have no problem dying first in a teamfigh by swapping in high priority heroes from the enemy team
Tide hunter level 20 or 25 talent that make it broken
What items do you buy as np 3?
Literally the hero has the most versatile itemization which is good and bad.
It's good if you have a lot of awareness of the game and you can't choose the right item to carry. Bad because its not easy and if you choose bad can be game losing.
But an itemization I like in nature prophet offlane is:
Solar crest - treads - atos/orchid. Maxing Q and teleport. You are a menace on the map. If you go atos and need to scale to late game you can upgrade into gleipnir.
Possible late game items are: silver edge / vyse / aghanims / halberd / bloodthorn / cuirass / bkb / lotus orb. You must realize if you need to do damage or to disable or to hit buildings according to what your team lacks
You must be always farming safe / pushing lanes that your team can not and checking the map for quick plays. Don't lose time forcing plays that your team might not follow. Buy wards place the aggressively and be ready to join you teammates always (on the reasonable fights).
A common noob mistake for this hero is to join every fight and feed. You must join most fights but know which you shouldnt
Specially since if you don't join a bad fight it means you have distraction to push other lane and maybe rat doto and compensate your feeding teammates
Whatever you want. PT into maelstrom and whatever else next: bkb, silver, skadi, gleipnir, scythe...
probably midas phase or treads malestrom then whatever you need in the midgame then vyse to kill the other cores with bloodthorn if u have it already
jenkoooo at it again m88888
thumbnail has me fucking rolling XD
I’m surprised that you don’t consider Undying as an offlane hero.
Does people pick vs for offlane?
Also what about windranger?
Jenkins you totally forgot tusk is s tier offlaner in my opinion
Forgot kunkka, hero's pog