Speed test: Silky Big Boy 2000 VS Boreal 21 by Agawa

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  • @bigjsknives
    @bigjsknives Год назад +501

    Those Silky's are hard to beat.

    • @benjamind4783
      @benjamind4783 Год назад +12

      You can replace your blade on the boréal with any 21 inch blade not the silky..

    • @evanlong5748
      @evanlong5748 Год назад +4

      @@benjamind4783 can’t you just sharpen the teeth?

    • @captaintony1227
      @captaintony1227 Год назад +3

      untill you need to buy a new blade. its about 20 cheaper than the saw in the first place and im not sure of its price but the zubat had saw is $80 and thats only 14 inches or less. ive bought one saw from them and went to fanno and Corona for $25 instead.

    • @slappy8941
      @slappy8941 Год назад

      *silkies

    • @bubbatidd4637
      @bubbatidd4637 Год назад +1

      ​@@slappy8941 no, proper noun

  • @Tactical_Assault_Pelican
    @Tactical_Assault_Pelican Год назад +44

    The perfect RUclips short, information delivered throughout the video, not just the question, tons of waffle and then 5 seconds of actual answer right at the end, no annoying sound effects, and you didn't feel the need to loop the video

  • @EireGenX
    @EireGenX Год назад +114

    I love the silky saws I have 3 different sizes including the big boy.

  • @banjobill8420
    @banjobill8420 Год назад +47

    how do you compete with a saw named "Silky Big Boy"

    • @Valo160569
      @Valo160569 Год назад +4

      Only with a Silky Katanaboy ... ha ha ha ...

    • @AtomicBleach
      @AtomicBleach Год назад +2

      ​@@Valo160569which happens to be the next saw on my wish list lol. Hard to swallow the price tag though especially since for that price I could get a decent battery powered chainsaw.

    • @dancearoundtheworld5360
      @dancearoundtheworld5360 Год назад +2

      $949 for a folding saw is unacceptable

    • @AquaTech225
      @AquaTech225 Год назад

      @@dancearoundtheworld5360must of found a sale price. I’m seeing $1,199.00

  • @srbontrager
    @srbontrager Год назад +2

    Initially, the Silky Big Boy 2000 was what I had bought for my get-home pack that I keep in my semi-truck, then stepped that down to a Gomboy due to wanting to cut down on bulk and weight. Just on a whim, I tossed my gomboy into my hunting pack last fall. I ended up using it almost every time I was in the woods. From now on, I will NOT venture into the woods without a hand saw. Especially when hunting. I'm thinking I'll put my Big Boy in my hunting pack, so I don't need to remove my Gomboy from my get-home pack. I tend to carry a lot less gear in my hunting pack, so the heavier Big Boy shouldn't be a problem.

  • @catokul
    @catokul Год назад +10

    as a landscaper i love the silky, it does have a technique though. Since the saw teeth are angled towards you it cuts more on the draw rather than push so you wanna save your power for when you're pulling the blade towards you

    • @zachmiller9175
      @zachmiller9175 Год назад +2

      Definitely a hangup if you're used to western style push cut saws but that's actually how all Japanese saws work, for the most part silkys are just slightly thicker single edge razor saws with nice handles. I have a razor saw for woodworking and it cuts hardwood like pine, and pine like balsa, they're amazing.

  • @richroc7
    @richroc7 Год назад +15

    That’s the model I have (Silky Big Boy) and I love it it’s phenomenally fast, aggressive and easy to use while being comfortable. My only regret is that 2 months after I got it, Silky released the Outback line and I was like oh man I wish I had that one. However I heard that for most people in most situations the Big Boy is too big and clunky to carry. So I’m going to get the pocket boy or gomboy in the outback edition. For those who don’t know, the outback series has the same everything except the blades a bit thicker to prevent bending and it’s coated. In addition to the blade upgrade they changed the handle material to a composite micarta or something like that, it’s not the neon green/yellow rubber & it’s brown. I’m also going to get a replacement blade for my big boy but in the outback edition.

    • @xNamikazeMinatox
      @xNamikazeMinatox Год назад +1

      I have their largest saw, and i take it with me everytime i go for overnighters. Sawing is more draining than walking, and id rater take the extra weight and have it easy on the sawing :)

    • @AtomicBleach
      @AtomicBleach Год назад +1

      Take a look at their f180 saw. Lighter than pocketboy, but performance of the longer gomboy.

    • @richroc7
      @richroc7 Год назад

      @@AtomicBleach thanks I’ll check it out 👊

    • @d.Cog420
      @d.Cog420 6 месяцев назад +1

      I got the Outback Gomboy and highly recommend it. Good size to pack and curved blade cuts very well. Blades are replaceable if you ever need to but I think all Silky's are like that.

    • @richroc7
      @richroc7 6 месяцев назад

      @@d.Cog420 I had bought mine two months before they released the outback series and I was sad that it happened that way but I’m undecided on the outback pocket boy or gomboy so your opinion has helped me decide. 🙏🏼

  • @elementalist1984
    @elementalist1984 Год назад +14

    I immediately knew that the silkie was going to be faster.

    • @timasuna1756
      @timasuna1756 Год назад

      He didn't even use two hands on it, still faster.

  • @MrLee-cy1pw
    @MrLee-cy1pw Год назад +10

    Silky's are the way to go. Especially for a pole saw.

  • @frankperrotte4379
    @frankperrotte4379 Год назад +8

    Got to love those silkies

  • @matthewdaub
    @matthewdaub Год назад +7

    Why does the wood look medium rare?

  • @cupcakecaptin42totally_not6
    @cupcakecaptin42totally_not6 Год назад

    I had a Compass saw with a knuckle guardless wood handle. I didn't like how it felt so I put the blade on backwards like a monadnock but with a blade. It actually worked like a dream and I loved it cut through wood like butter.

  • @byronlabelle7569
    @byronlabelle7569 Год назад

    I've only used a bow saw. A 30" Sandvik that we used in the uranium mines out here in New Mexico for shoring up underground mine stopes(timber lined pathways).

  • @Zthomaston1
    @Zthomaston1 2 месяца назад

    Is there a situation in which the bow saw would be more advantageous?

  • @freethinker5225
    @freethinker5225 Год назад +8

    Good technique with the silky is to go on the edges of the cut while your cutting and harder on the draw...they don't cut on the push but I could cut through that in 30 seconds flat but I processed alot of wood in my time

  • @blackdeath4962
    @blackdeath4962 Год назад +6

    You got 3 coasters now

  • @noneyaonenoneyatwo2879
    @noneyaonenoneyatwo2879 Год назад

    But doesn't replaceable blades mean more cuts and more wood if you pack more blades?

  • @MeOutside
    @MeOutside Год назад +2

    I own both of them. I prefer the Silky. Boreal 21 is a beast and they have great customer service. But if you know how to use it, that fine Japanese steel eats up the wood.

    • @smirking8457
      @smirking8457 11 месяцев назад +1

      Replacing the blade ain’t cheap though

    • @MeOutside
      @MeOutside 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@smirking8457 No it’s not. It’s almost as much as buying a new one.

  • @incognito4102
    @incognito4102 Год назад

    Please test the Civivi Concept 22!!! Wanna know how bad/good it is...

  • @plmn93
    @plmn93 2 месяца назад

    When making a lot of cuts the hand position becomes a big deal, especially if you've ever had overuse injuries like Carpal Tunnel or Tendonitis.

  • @daleyfun2247
    @daleyfun2247 Год назад +20

    Both are nice. I went b21 because replacement blades are 5 bucks at the local hardware store.

    • @farstrider79
      @farstrider79 Год назад +1

      Yep. And besides, anything to big for that saw, I'd be using a chainsaw or axe anyway.

    • @RedWingsninetyone
      @RedWingsninetyone Год назад

      Amen. Plus I like the size it collapses down to

    • @smirking8457
      @smirking8457 11 месяцев назад +3

      The silky is really great for clearing bike trails where you occasionally need to cut through a large tree.

    • @daleyfun2247
      @daleyfun2247 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@smirking8457 that's a fact. I'd love to buy a katana boy, but can't justify the unreasonable prices they want for bigger saws. If it's cheaper to buy a new Stihl chainsaw you're asking too much in my book.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 2 месяца назад

      @@smirking8457 Yep. Silky for occasional cutting or pruning. Agawa for processing downed wood when camping. If you have a lot to do a straight wrist makes a huge difference.

  • @uturn5834
    @uturn5834 Год назад

    That’s super useful, thanks!

  • @edwardkaufman8930
    @edwardkaufman8930 Год назад

    That's not a huge amount of time between blades. Which one is easiest to use?

  • @CS-zn6pp
    @CS-zn6pp Год назад +1

    I have a silky, it's never let me down.
    Before I bought it I must have tried almost every other saw on the market.
    Would never buy any other brand again.

  • @ElkinsEric
    @ElkinsEric Год назад +6

    Both are great saws. But you can get replacement blades for the Boreal dang near anywhere.

    • @GabrielDoesOutdoors
      @GabrielDoesOutdoors Год назад +2

      Boreal wins for that reason

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 2 месяца назад +1

      @@GabrielDoesOutdoors And for better ergonomics. For those of us who have had overuse injuries, like Carpal Tunnel or Tendonitis, the Agawa is an easy choice.

  • @Wildwestwrangler
    @Wildwestwrangler Год назад

    So the question is..... Which would you choose?

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 Год назад +1

      bowsaw. replacement blade is cheaper, resharpenable (silky isn't). You cut slower but tire MUCH less, the blade is 2-3x thinner. Also bowsaws can't snap, silky's can snap and are much more brittle in the cold. Also the silky fares worse on dry hardwood so
      your mileage my vary, but the ag21 is what I'd use for serious survival.

  • @a.i.a3949
    @a.i.a3949 10 месяцев назад +1

    I prefer using silky saws, but the fost to replace a silky blade once its blunt is more than 20 brand new bow saw blades.

  • @irfanahmed9112
    @irfanahmed9112 Год назад

    How long blade?

  • @petersymons7817
    @petersymons7817 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you

  • @Trentonriley
    @Trentonriley Год назад

    What kind of wood is that

  • @jonathonhumes449
    @jonathonhumes449 Месяц назад

    I’ve been using the silky big boy up in Alaska for two winters now
    Highly recommend
    Anything from dead saplings to full dead trees the silky saw can handle
    Just don’t trust the infantry with it they’ll bust the blade into three parts and refuse to pay you back

  • @darkling-studios
    @darkling-studios Год назад

    Sawzaw?

  • @alexcostello7119
    @alexcostello7119 Год назад +1

    I have both it’s the big boy all day

  • @TheMomanslm
    @TheMomanslm Год назад +1

    Bowsaws are simply too restricted. A folding panel style is a much better option.

  • @cyphorical
    @cyphorical Год назад +6

    I've never owned a Silky but i absolutely love my Boreal 24, especially for backpacking!

    • @richroc7
      @richroc7 Год назад +1

      You should try one they’re incredible and my recommendation is the outback series (for Bushcrafters, campers, outdoorsmen) and the pocket boy is the most packable or the gomboy is the medium size but it’s up to you. It’s also easier to open than the Boreal. 💪

    • @cyphorical
      @cyphorical Год назад +1

      hell yeahh buddy, i highly appreciate the recommendation! ima keep that in mind and even screenshot your response to do a bit of research myself, thank you!!

  • @thisiswhereidied3054
    @thisiswhereidied3054 Год назад

    Saws aside, why's your log medium rare?

  • @norco4life518
    @norco4life518 Год назад +1

    Agawa Canyaon Boreal blade replacement longevity, vs silky proprietary replacement blade cost, I’ll take the agawa canyon, all the time every time

  • @gobbler_king7952
    @gobbler_king7952 Год назад +1

    Bologna Tree?

  • @anointedplumber
    @anointedplumber Год назад

    What tree is that

  • @swynty777
    @swynty777 Год назад +1

    Do they sell replacement blades for the silky?

    • @ilanotto1915
      @ilanotto1915 Год назад +1

      Yes, they do.

    • @richroc7
      @richroc7 Год назад

      Yes & I’m going to get the outback edition replacement blade for my big boy because they last longer and they are thicker. I’m pretty sure it fits my regular model because it’s not that much thicker.

  • @thechatkid6701
    @thechatkid6701 Год назад +1

    Why is that wood medium rare

  • @seriouspotato_420
    @seriouspotato_420 Год назад +3

    I want all saws to be referred as silky bigboys from now on .

    • @zachmiller9175
      @zachmiller9175 Год назад

      What if I told you they make a bigger one called the katanaboy and a smaller one called the pocketboy?

    • @seriouspotato_420
      @seriouspotato_420 Год назад

      @zach miller noway , u fr ???
      Is this what they actually call them ?!?

  • @maidenlord6663
    @maidenlord6663 Год назад

    They're both good saws

  • @meeeeee575
    @meeeeee575 Год назад +2

    that trees looking a little medium rare

  • @slickwillie3376
    @slickwillie3376 Год назад +1

    The blades have different teeth, so need to redo test with comparabe teeth.

  • @klausheisler5014
    @klausheisler5014 Год назад +1

    The agawa blades are not great from my experience. Bahco drywood blade is way better & literally a 3rd the price of the agawa blades here. £4.50 vs £15.

  • @nathanaelmedina2775
    @nathanaelmedina2775 Год назад

    If you get the XL teeth on the silky you can speed things up

  • @QuantumMechanic_88
    @QuantumMechanic_88 Год назад +2

    It was a good feeling tossing the over priced and fragile Silky in a campfire. Nice video and all the best.

  • @narong1204
    @narong1204 Год назад +2

    Sounded disappointed that the Silky won

  • @romabrii
    @romabrii Год назад +1

    I'm disappointed you didn't reference Crazy Russian Hacker's video on this

  • @jamesgraves1639
    @jamesgraves1639 Месяц назад

    All you gotta do when you run into that situation with the bow saw is spin the log around and cut through the off side!

  • @peterblackwell7391
    @peterblackwell7391 6 дней назад

    Technique with the silky was fine, but you kept changing angle so much with the boreal, which means less cut wood per stroke. Not a valid test in other words.

  • @blueeyeswhitedragon9839
    @blueeyeswhitedragon9839 Год назад

    Don't waste effort on the push stroke with Silky Saw... they only cut on the pull stroke.

  • @mr.g1539
    @mr.g1539 Год назад +1

    Silky all day!!

  • @zeuqramjj2002
    @zeuqramjj2002 Год назад +2

    Silky all day.

  • @janefkrbtt
    @janefkrbtt Год назад

    why the hell is that saw called the silly big boy 2000

  • @rayfoster4809
    @rayfoster4809 Год назад +1

    Can't beat a silky

  • @WesternBlazer
    @WesternBlazer Год назад

    I love my silky

  • @gwpattrick
    @gwpattrick Год назад

    Yeah, but what's more durable.

  • @nicolascorbeil9263
    @nicolascorbeil9263 Год назад

    But with a bow saw you can make a bow almost anywhere

    • @MrAdeuhtyr
      @MrAdeuhtyr Год назад

      It’s not so easy as you might think

    • @nicolascorbeil9263
      @nicolascorbeil9263 Год назад

      @@MrAdeuhtyr Its not easy but its doable if you need to

  • @shadowstalker130666
    @shadowstalker130666 Год назад +2

    Ill be the odd man out. For smaller saws, yep, love a silky. But for larger saws, theres no blade stability. Ill take a bow saw for larger wood. Its safer and more durable.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 2 месяца назад

      I agree. Also the Agawa is much more ergonomic because your wrist is straight. These are the kind of opinions that are learned by experience.

  • @BryceHomier17
    @BryceHomier17 Год назад +1

    Your mom calls me the silky big boy.

  • @danielhill7149
    @danielhill7149 Год назад

    I have both silky and the boreal saws. Silky requires some skill to use as it's a hardened blade and can snap somewhat easily, important to note that silky saws only cut on the pull stroke. The boreal is great in it's versatility because there's more options for how you can cut your chosen pieces of wood. Both are great saws imo

  • @twiningsirishbreakfasttea3826
    @twiningsirishbreakfasttea3826 Год назад

    I refuse the believe that that is the saw’s actual name

  • @ConRoen
    @ConRoen Год назад +2

    Silky makes a good saw but they are very expensive. I'm a climbing arborist and I tend to use corona Saws because they are cheap and 90% as good as the silky

  • @soulschizm4427
    @soulschizm4427 Год назад

    I prefer Corona, They make an excellent hand saw. If you like silky you will love Corona.

    • @MrAdeuhtyr
      @MrAdeuhtyr Год назад

      Other way around bud

    • @soulschizm4427
      @soulschizm4427 Год назад

      @@MrAdeuhtyr Nope, I wrote it right. When you consider the price difference its Corona all the way.

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 Год назад

      @@MrAdeuhtyr not only is Corona cheaper tests show they tend to be faster out of the box buddy. I've had one years and cut a TON with it and i got a second, they dull extremely slowly, same as silky

    • @MrAdeuhtyr
      @MrAdeuhtyr Год назад

      @@escapetherace1943 as someone who’s used both. I say silky all the way

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 Год назад

      @@MrAdeuhtyr keep it up. How much is Silky paying you? 🤣

  • @Kn1ghtwing_1
    @Kn1ghtwing_1 Год назад

    that log is medium rare

  • @alexanderbielski9327
    @alexanderbielski9327 Год назад

    I use axe and boreal21. That seems to be a fine combo.

  • @indyoutsider
    @indyoutsider Год назад +1

    You were saying the Boreal 21 had a problem with log size, because you only had so much room between the saw and the blade. In truth you have double that distance for log cutting. Just turn the log over. Silky Saws don't lock closed either.

  • @walmars3curity
    @walmars3curity Год назад

    Ever heard of a bandsaw or chop saw? 4 seconds, buddy

  • @freddyfox5002
    @freddyfox5002 Год назад

    Silky Butt is #1 toilet paper
    Just ask Niels Buckingham

  • @escapetherace1943
    @escapetherace1943 Год назад +1

    Yes but this makes the silky look better, when it isn't. You fatigue faster using a silky because it only works the forearm. The bowsaw was 30% slower, BUT 30% of it's teeth don't cut, they rake sawdust. You tire a lot slower using a bowsaw. A bowsaw is thinner so less wood is cut from the log which is saved energy.
    Yes you will tend to cut slower, but you will be the tortoise that won against the hare, have burned less calories too. Also your bowsaw technique was poor.

  • @93_industries
    @93_industries Год назад

    Log is cooked rare

  • @320iguy
    @320iguy Год назад

    bow saws arent good for camping. period.

  • @flyinggander990
    @flyinggander990 2 месяца назад

    Sword better and cooler

  • @XxM1LLERxX
    @XxM1LLERxX Год назад

    Not going to beat a silky

  • @ekstat1c
    @ekstat1c Год назад

    So use a chainsaw. Got it.

  • @badmoon7549
    @badmoon7549 Год назад

    Stilh 5 seconds.

  • @norco4life518
    @norco4life518 Год назад +4

    After years with both of these saws, the boreal saw is still more worthwhile than the silky, simply because of blade replacement cost.
    The boreal replacement is so much more cost effective compared to the silky’s proprietary replacement.

  • @InimitaPaul
    @InimitaPaul 8 месяцев назад

    Can’t trust the blades not to snap on the Silky’s from what I’ve heard whereas the blades on the 21 are stable and easily sharpened too, each to their own though.

  • @thegreatbunny481
    @thegreatbunny481 Год назад

    I was *SURE* that this was InternetCommentEtiquette and I was waiting for a joke and then I thought I didn't understand the joke because I'm stupid and I'm still not sure tbh

  • @BaroudeurAventure
    @BaroudeurAventure Год назад

    Considering the different amount of teeth per inch I guess the boreal won.

  • @caribooadventures7898
    @caribooadventures7898 Год назад

    I'll take cmy boreal over silky just cause I can get replacement blades easier and cheaper

  • @gabbi_evergreen
    @gabbi_evergreen Год назад

    69th comment

  • @ryann4904
    @ryann4904 9 месяцев назад

    The biggest downside to the silky is the blade is impact hardened and can’t be sharpened and a new blade costs $50.

  • @dud3655
    @dud3655 Год назад

    Straight blades can also break a lot easier than a curved hard blade. Sure, it's easier to find a replacement for a straight, but in the woods there be no shops, and a curved hard one's gonna last you longer too.

  • @bigzigtv706
    @bigzigtv706 Год назад

    its limited by the lumbers radius not diameter

  • @henrysrifles2523
    @henrysrifles2523 Год назад

    I swear I does not matter

  • @UltraMagaFan
    @UltraMagaFan Год назад +4

    Hard pass. I’m just gonna use a chainsaw with a bow bar. I can cut through that log in 5 seconds.

    • @codrinmicusan446
      @codrinmicusan446 Год назад +2

      These are folding saws. The whole fucking point is to be compact and portable you fucking retard

    • @SpingotGoomer
      @SpingotGoomer Год назад +1

      @Codrin Micusan he's got a confederate flag in his pfp and fuck joe biden in his name, man's a lost cause

  • @RaphyLive
    @RaphyLive Год назад

    Now Silkyboy 2000 vs Nimbus 2000

  • @ASwordoftheLordGod
    @ASwordoftheLordGod Год назад

    I have the silkie 2000 it's a badass I have the big boy silky

  • @mgriffin42455
    @mgriffin42455 Год назад

    Silky done it faster in half the cuts. They only cut on the pull.

  • @Jamesrealasdeath
    @Jamesrealasdeath Год назад

    Dude, listen just go get you a 1909-1920s warranted superior craftsman hand saw. You just don't need anything else.

    • @MrAdeuhtyr
      @MrAdeuhtyr Год назад

      Ever used a silky? They are magical

  • @jiltsmultitheoryjilt415
    @jiltsmultitheoryjilt415 Год назад

    Fatigued? That was three cuts. Grow a pair