Pop!_OS Cosmic Desktop: NEW Updates & Alpha Release Dates..
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- RUST Cosmic Desktop on Pop!_OS made by System 76 is nearing it's ALPHA release. Let's learn about the latest updates on this Cosmic Desktop for Linux environment. Open source dev is great!
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Are you excited for the Alpha release?
Yes
for sure
A rust desktop with UI apps? you bet.
Indeed I am excited for this release. It look super cool. How long after the alfa do you think the beta will be released?
Yes
been using cosmic for my main DE for a bit, I love it! clean minimal and out of my way
3:06 That's GNOME Settings
Yes, Cosmic originally was a set of GNOME extensions, and Cosmic Epoch is essentially a Rust-rewrite of GNOME.
@@MechMK1 cosmic is its own thing. they were just pointing out that nik opened the wrong settings app
i love the fact that they used the title bar to add the context menus on there loke a pseudo-global menu. its amazing cause it saves a lot of space, i hate gnome HUGE padding and waste of screen space, this cosmic desktop looks so good. i cant wait to the alpha release. Im using pop os rn
Bizarrely I've been using cosmic on Fedora with no problems whilst not jumping the gun on my Pop OS desktop.
same, but it had really high cpu usage and I couldn't take my fans spinning up for no reason anymore.
@@donkey7921This was fixed around 2-3 weeks ago, when the compositor was refactored to be multi-threaded
@@mmstick nice! looking forward to alpha release!
Me too, the only problem that I have is the touchpad gestures.
Cosmic is the future...im playing emulators with no issue whatsoever ..even on my gtx 1650 this thing is king fps is noticeable..kde and gnome didnt offer me as much stability and fps ...but cosmic has been great....i hope that they dont mess it up so far so good.
Oh god, a lot of border radius are different. (Menu, window, buttons, menu buttons, desktop number, terminal tabs, folder left menu, settings left menu, settings top buttons)
I hope they will make it more consistent.
Also, the desktop number background color touch the up and down of the topbar.
Same for the file menu touching the file button.
Now they just need to figure out how to theme actual GTK apps and flatpaks. Yeah Iced is cool, but that doesn't mean GTK and QT are going away.
Enable the external theme support in the appearance settings page. It is in the experimental settings context drawer.
@@mmstick It does not work for gtk apps or flatpaks in general.
@@Sqwert-g6h Yes it does. Did you not see the LinuxFest Northwest COSMIC demo? Or the blog update that showcased GTK and Flatpak theme support?
@@Sqwert-g6h It does work for all GTK applications and flatpak if you have adw-gtk3 installed.
You just made my day! Thanks for this exciting update!
Absolutely goated tiling experience. This should be the standard.
So, its kind of Gnome done right?
yes
Gnome without Gnome devs to get in the way
It's like gnome but not completely neutered to the point you need a separate software to properly set your wallpaper. I hope they come out with an official fedora package for this soon!
O nice they combinded title bars with menu bars of their apps - I like this idea!
Now only me to allow to move dock on top-center, clock to the left and this will be DE for me!
I love rust and iced as a ui framework, very excited to use a DE made with it :)
I hope they add the ability to turn windows invisible or transparent when you hover over other windows from the same program in the dock, like how windows does it. It makes it alot easier to find windows if you have multiple monitors.
Also a clipboard list.
Looking forward to try out the stable version once it comes out, never used pop os before.
I am a fan of KDE Plasma for 7 years now. I really like Plasma 6 and Wayland compositor works great now.
But i am really interested in Cosmic DE, i will give it a try for sure. It may be a real good DE
can't wait to try this once i get hold of my next laptop, looks great
Im happy to see a cooler dark UI background, the brownish gray i got from popos gnome was so ugly and so difficult for me to override. This may may have been my skill issue but the theming experience really rubbed me the wrong way that I switched to kde
The overall UI looks very bad to me, I hope it will be better when released.
Welcome to modern UI design. We'll be in hell until 2000's design sensibilities come back in some fashion.
I would be more excited about popOS if it wasn’t an Ubuntu based distribution. Nonetheless, I am very excited about cosmic!
whats wrong with being ubuntu based and what would have been the better choice to fork from in your opinion ?
Debian
@@ifyouseekei are you replying to me?
I love the auto theme system switcher and the horizontal workspace layout. Having work spaces on the side feels weird for me
Currently using Hyprland but having a hard time with some games, hoping the floating/tiling hybrid and gaming focus from System76 with this Cosmic desktop will help solve a lot of those issues while letting me keep tiling support. Super excited for the alpha release, will be hopping on as soon as I hear it's "good enough" for daily use.
I wish I could. But I use CUDA for work, so I need an Nvidia GPU and it didn't seem to work nicely with the proprietary drivers according to the documentation (I red it a while ago, so I don't know if it is still the same).
@@vidal9747 I heard 555 plays better with Wayland compositor but ymmv. On the AMD side it's mostly good. Definitely look into the new drivers though.
@@vidal9747 Newest proprietary drivers should work lots better. The 555 betas made Wayland viable, the 555 stable/public drivers should only improve that.
just needs wobbly windows, magic lantern minimize and transparent window when moving
lol you were looking at the wrong settings core app. Thanks for the regular COMIC news videos though!
I hope they do some animation customizations for the dock.
Esperando o Diolinux fazer a versão desse vídeo em português
Cosmic is looking pretty sweet!
Last time i tried it I added app icons to the top panel and when i made it larger so app icons were large enough the left and right side for system tray and workspace icons were way too huge for me....i am just wondering if that has been fixed by any chance now? Thanks
For most of the video I was like "Who is Poppa West? Who is Poppa West?"
Question: Does it allow you to autohide the dock?
Yes. You can also just delete it entirely if you want.
@@angeldude101 nice.
Looking forward to update from AUR.
Last time I checked, basic system settings were not implemented, there were quite a few stubs.
I assume these are done by now...?
at 3:24 thats the gnome setttngs app. Not the cosmic one.
Really been considering switching to popos/cosmic from linux mint but tbh I just need to go back to arch I'm severely lacking in ram :(
I've been trying it out on the side and I can definitely see the potential. However, I wouldn't dream of dailying it yet since the launcher is super rough and the tiling support is extremely bare bones.
that dock is horrific. Idk why but I find System76's design choices extremely weird.
Agreed. The need someone with more design sense involved
You can customize it (adding applets, making it go to the screen edges, and autohide)
Having the app icons touch the edges is so weird. I know this is an alpha, but the UI looks super inconsistent.
Totally agree, the border radius is way too much and clash with the other radius of windows.
I'm so hyped about this!
I love Pop. I just wish they would have updated the base when Ubuntu did. With it taking this long, it would be nice to have an up to date operating system.
This. I also want them to update to 24.04 because I wanted to use stable kde plasma 6. I hope that it won't be delayed so long. Cosmic de is pretty cool though
Might have to switch from sway if it has a tiling mode 👀
Edit: oh damn
While I love the way GNOME looks, I can't even change the default terminal emulator to open when using the open in terminal option. They have some serious issues in customization. But it will take a while to get used to KDE, so I just keep frustrated and keep using it. I hope COSMIC is great and fixes my issues with GNOME
SavvyNik: This Is The SHEET
Lol
*Hope XFCE follow suite and upgrade look and apps the same way cosmic did to Gnome*
I was excited, i got tired waiting and switched to hyprland 😭
How are you updating the epoch release? I think I just realized that I forgot to update my sources.
sudo apt-manage add popdev:master
update && refresh
Gnome should be running scared ...
Gnome died 2 years ago already. That is why Cosmic was created in the first place.
@@techpriest4787 huh ? i thought they are doing good with version 46 and the new planned updates, i am new to linux can u explain what happened 2 years ago ?
Is there i3 like navigation support in tiling mode
What's the usecase for cosmic de?
Can you please search for apps in the store and show the response time? Searching in the store has always been terribly slow in the store for me.
Search results are generated in realtime as you type. It can search the entire database within milliseconds.
GUI consistency is abysmal.. Look at the X button in Settings vs. Terminal.. Same goes for their header bar. Standing on the Gnome's shoulders for a GUI + WM is likely to always yield such inconsistencies.
To be fair, it did show the old settings app
He opened the old settings app which is a gtk app. The new cosmic settings has a consistent theme.
that was the gnome settings app, not the cosmic one.
All libcosmic applications use the same libcosmic header
Can i get rid of the animations?
Sadly.. i've never been a fan of this sort of UI and layout.. i like a more traditional UI... a kin to classic windows like windows 95 and 98 and XP... i think that's why i keep using Mint..
It's just easier to find my way around.
51st!
Why does the UI design system look so outdated?
You are using wrong settings app
I don't get why people care some much about the language that compiled it.
That's the difference between a developer and a user. Developers care if the project is written in a language that they want to build software with.
@@mmstick I guess so. I think the users are seeing the word Rust as an advertisement though.
@@oraz. And it is if you've been following along with the topic of memory safety in the last 10 years. On Google's blog, read "Memory Safe Languages in Android 13" from 2022. On Microsoft's blog, read "We need a safer systems programming language" from 2019. As well as the US CISA's "The Urgent Need for Memory Safety in Software Products" from 2023. Collectively, 70% of vulnerabilities are the direct result of usage of C and C++, and are resolved through Rust's memory safety features. Vulnerabilities not only represent a surface area for attack, but cause software crashes and instability.
planet for august 8 - they get nothing together - it`s all hype
👍!!
Firat
It's an alpha release, beta maybe but alpha give me a break.
Eh... it looks like GNOME... and GNOME is one of the only desktop environments I actually f*ckin' hate. The tiling window management seems pretty good for a mainstream-type desktop, but for real power I'm sure it will never match a real tiling window manager.
I can't complain about having another choice of desktop environment, although that doesn't stop me but wonder: why? What's the point of this? It's juft a new GNOME written in Rust. I have no interest in this, nor did I ever have any interest in Pop!_OS, so this is a solid pass for me.
If I were to sum up my thoughts in two words, they would be "who cares?"
I'm sure it'll deviate from gnome much more as time goes by. They need to get the core functionality in place and get a release out first.
Gnome is dead, son. It was cursed by a supernatural shaman... they got no money anymore... Cosmic replaces not only Gnome but also its devs. System76 needs a solid foundation for its pre build computers that they sell. I guess at some point they might also sell gaming rigs and move to Arch like Valve did for Steam Deck. Perhaps Valve will also use Cosmic for Steam OS. Cosmic is already being used for NixOS and some other distro.
As an i3 user who has played with cosmic I would say it's an extremely competent tiling wm.. maybe even more so because it is also just as mouse friendly as it is keyboard friendly. It might look like gnome to you initially but functionality-wise is it not. Its like i3 but with the conviences a full desktop environment brings.
I do not like it i dont like to bzr i wznt itvat the bottom like windows
Well put it on the bottom then? Movable bars is a basic feature, every desktop has it.
@@user-xe6sm4jv8fYou understand what he said?!