The arcs that go into Secret Wars dont have just one villain. Kang leads into Dooms part in Secret Wars. God Doom is half of the story in Secret Wars. I dont get why they cant just plagiarize the comics, its not hard. Thats what all the fans want, cohesion and continuity.
The arcs that go into Secret Wars dont have just one villain. Kang leads into Dooms part in Secret Wars. God Doom is half of the story in Secret Wars. I dont get why they cant just plagiarize the comics, its not hard. Thats what all the fans want, cohesion and continuity.
@@cosmictruthtortoise The MCU has turned to shit 💩 you don’t have to know about any Marvel property to see that. Disney has ruined every franchise they’ve touched. What excuse are you going to make
I think they had a plan for something with RDJ going into Endgame. The two things that always seemed weird to me in that movie is his reaction to Howard Stark when he says his wife is pregnant and the whole “You mess with time, it tends to mess back.” line. The look on Tony’s face when he says that to him it makes me think that the math was off it was supposed to be him. I think maybe there were complications and maybe they lost that child, so they adopted “Tony” from an orphanage in Latveria. That whole time line never sat right with me either. Maybe it was in reference to the glitch getting the original Power Stone in 2012, but I just thought there was more to that thought.
I WISH that was the Case. Disney Cant plan like that sadly. I am still waiting for the explanation of "I have telepathy' line in Endgame with Thor and Marvel. NO WAY that was just coincidence But Marvel just cant make plans like that. BUT if Marvel can I also want to know where they were going with the line in Infinty War or Stark talking to Pepper about having a dream that she was pregnant even though it did happen in EndGame, I feel like there was a Story to be told with that EasterEgg there that we missed
I fully agree with that, and came to comments to say what was said at the end of this video. Doom being RDJ reveal was going to be a huge surprise when he would take Kang’s power, and we see his healed face for the first time. They just gave it away as an emergency plan to bring hype back, and, since all things Kang are forgotten, gave a lot of Kang’s plot points to Doom right away. BUT I always thought there had to be more to the reveal. Something else, that will still make the surprise worth it. Like this is not being a variant but our actual Tony. Or the thing that Josh is always preaching of 616 Iron man being a Doom variant.
I think doom was supposed to be the villain of the next saga, with the F4 as the leads, but then they pushed him up cause they couldn’t use Kang anymore.
With the influences in the comics, especially the Jonathan Hickman stuff, I don’t see how anyone could not believe Doom was the big villain. I never read those stories but anytime Josh brings that story arc up Kang isn’t even mentioned. Now I know Josh is biased with his love for Doom. But the meat and potatoes of the story, the core essence, the major player was Dr. Doom. And if Kang was involved, he was just a footnote in comparison. Now I do believe he would have played a role of some kind but there’s just no doubt in my mind Doom was always going to be the biggest baddie.
The behind the scenes scooper with the highest batting average in the game says that Doom was the plan all along, and that's good enough for me to believe it.
@mustermas What do you mean not true? It was the same dude who was the first one to say rtdj was going to be Doom, the guy does not miss. Has not missed.
Doom was definitely a later pivot made because of the Kang debacle but they’re using scoopers to give this course correction validity & instill confidence in the brand. All reports said Doom was supposed to be a villain for phase 7 until Ant-man did poorly & Jonathan Majors was found guilty for frantically running away from a white woman
This is by far One of your BEST videos mainly b/c i remember many of these reports in the past and YOU putting them together like this Makes soooo much sense along with the NEW idea that marvel isnt just throwing out all of those story lines that were suppose to be in other movies, instead they ARE putting those story lines In their bigger projects which HAS BEEN confirmed by Disney . So when u put ALL those stories together THIS whole thing makes Sense and even though I DO BELEIVE that Doom was suppose to be bad guy in Secret Wars I believe Kang was suppose to be the Big Bad AND Big Good leading up too it. i believe Moon Knight along with F4 (just like the Comics) was suppose to tackle the Kang from Egypt, Immoritus would go up against Dr Strange, and a Kang varient would be a Good guy and join the young Avengers which is one of the stories that wasnt included in THIS VIDEO. I just believe in the end Doom would be recruited to help Defeat the Kangs but turn on Dr Strange and F4 and the TVA in the end and be the big bad of just the two part Secret Wars Fantasti c breakdown and in less than a Yr we will see Proof that Josh was either Right
Secret Wars without Doom is Infinity War without Thanos. Anyone who believes they know better than Kevin Feige is a simple fool. This was absolutely the plan off the rip. The only three things that made the story pivot were 1. The passing of Chadwick Boseman RIP. 2. The popularity of Majors as He Who Remains, and 3. Majors catching a case. I hope they hire Denzel to finish the Kang arc.🤞
Don’t mic drop because lady death was there. She literally is so fast sending people to the after life that she can’t be seen. Also note that in the comics when the different universes fight they die sooo
Also side note silver surfer at the time was with galactas. Mephisto was probably doing something with ghost rider not really involved doesn’t mean he can’t be in a movie
@ soooo we’ve resorted to making stuff up huh? It doesn’t matter if the lot of them were off at a cosmic sleepover where they all braided each other’s hair after the universe’s strangest orgy, at which they performed bukakke on Mistress Death. At her request, of course. Obviously Death almost actually died from drowning in Galactus’ load, but she surfed it because she’s a greedy little jizz gobbler. She even coined the event The Milky Way. You know it was orchestrated by her then husband Deadpool. He only watched though because he loves being a giant cuck. See, I can make stuff up too 💦🌊💀😛😶🌫️
I mean I mostly agree. I just don’t know they plan to connect Kamala’s bands and Shang Chi’s rings to Doom. I understood how they would do it with Kang, but I imagined all of that would happen before Doom came to do what he does in the comics. As I’m truly hoping and have always been hoping that there would be a Beyonder character that can serve as the villain until Doom is ready to make his move.
1) downy wouldnt return unless there wasnt a good reason for him to return. 2) they originally said that kang was not gonna be the end villian but because Jonathan's portrayal was so good the shifted him into being the end all villian
Everybody knew Doom would always be the main villain of Secret Wars, and would probably show up to save the day in Kang Dinasty. But, his role definetely changed completely since Kang Diansty is now Doomsday, making him the main villlain of that movie
Robert Pattinson is rumored to play Owen Reece/Molecule Man, also RDJ’s character is probably going to end up and hopefully the route to Infamous Iron Man, Johnny Depp as The Beyonder, but I believe we’re going to get Doom War in The Mutant Saga with this great film title, “Black Panther III: Wakanda Reborn” with Victor von Doom/Doctor Doom from the main actual sacred MCU World, which I believe it will be played by Cillian Murphy, but I do hope Jason Statham accepts the role as Tony Masters/Taskmaster.
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Also some of these theory videos are utterly pointless about tony being adopted by the starks considering in endgame when they went back in time howard stark siad his wife is pregnant which was tony so gow could he be adopted when he came from the starks
So we're going to have at least three hulks, maybe four, the century, the gold guy from guardians, Wonder Man, Dr Doom, white vision, Wanda, Doctor strange and his girlfriend, and countless other super super powers, what the hell are the young avengers going to do without looking pathetic as all hell?
No he wasn't. If they had genuinely intended Doom to be the final boss, they would have named dropped him or made a Doom pun by now or visibly shown us some seeds that they planted in the Phase 4 projects. The closest we ever got was the Von D(something) Cupcakes van and a Latverian looking castle in Moon Knight and Mr Fantastic using a time platform in Dr Strange 2. You can't possibly believe that those minor Easter Eggs prove that it was always going to be Doom (and RDJ Doom on top of that). At least with Thanos he had minor cameos and references before Infinity War. And besides, weren't you one of the ones that was convinced The Beyonder (Kang version) was going to be the big boss for Secret Wars originally?
I still think RDJ is a Doom variant, we know this Doom is from F4's Universe, not 616. When they unveiled RDJ as Doom, there were a hundred other "dooms" on stage. Hinting he is one of many. Meaning we still havent met 616 doom.
I buy it. Hes super important to Secret Wars. Feige knows this. Sure, things got changed. Feige has always said theres a plan but that its fluid. So, yeah. Im sure Doom was always coming soon. But now sooner.
I do believe they always had a plan to bring RDJ back as a villain. But to bring him back as DOOM?? Naw i don't believe that. We know for a fact Marvel changed their whole setup moving forward after they saw Majors performance in Loki. We also know that they titled their next AVENGERS MOVIE after Kang. To say Doom was always the plan is nonsense bruh. I'm still a fan of the channel though lol.
No, it wasn't the plan all along. If it was, Dr. Doom should have been introduced since Phase 4, much like Loki in Infinity Saga. Starting as an all out villain, slowly evolving into an anti-hero. A character this big can't be introduced at the last minute. That's why the chose RDJ, to use a familiar face to cover for an unfamiliar character.
It wasn’t always the plan at all, they’ve just learnt from their mistakes with the Star Wars sequels about speaking truthfully when it comes to such things.
think you are 1000% on the money here, Josh… think Feige & Marvel hv always had a long game strategy and villainous RDJ was part of that… what i DON’T think they were planning for was a nutsack CEO in Bob Chapek, Covid, 2 industry strikes, fans hating on Brie Larson, Sony threatening to take away TH’s Spider-Man, Chadwick Boseman’s tragic passing, the legal woes of Jonathan Majors all while the fandom was going apoplectic on The Eternals, Quantumania, She-Hulk, The Marvels, Secret Invasion and Love & Thunder… think they ALWAYS planned to reunite the OG Avengers alongside X- Men, Fantastic 4 and Spider-Man as a show of force to reset the next 10-20 years and turn the entire MCU in its head with RDJ turning big time heel ⚡️⚡️⚡️💣💥
I believe it, sounds like maybe Kang was going to be the villain of Kang Dynasty and Doom for Avengers Dooms day, and all they did was expand dooms role in two movies instead of one, just to remove Kang, makes sense to me
I still wish they just kept Kang as the big bad and saved Dr. Doom for the next 3 phase big bad. Kang could have been the villain for the first Fantastic 4 movie. Could have two Kang for Young Avengers, one would have been Iron Lad. Young Avengers could have fought one of the Kang variant with the help of Hawkeye Antman and The Wasp Scarlet Witch and White Vision. Rama-Tut would have been in Moon Knight season 2. Scarlet Centurion would fight Shang-Chi and Iron Fist in Shang-Chi 2. And the last Kang would have been in Avengers The Kang Dynasty and Avengers Secret Wars and Kang would be Kang Beyonder who was behind everything, making sure Kang would be stop so he would be the last Kang. But in Avengers Secret Wars Julian McMahon Dr. Doom would take Kang Beyonder powers and become god empire Doom. After god empire Doom was stopped their was one Kang left and would have been in Avengers Forever. Chris Evans Chris Hemsworth Robert Downey Jr. Mark Ruffalo Jeremy Renner Scarlett Johansson and Samuel L. Jackson would do one more Avengers movie in Avengers Forever Iron Man and Black Widow variants would go back to their Earth Steve Rogers would go back to Peggy Carter when he time travel at the end of Avengers Endgame. Hawkeye passed his bow to Katie Bishop. Thor would be King of New Asgard since Valkyrie died in Avengers Secret Wars. Nick Fury would just quit being a Agent. And all is left is Hulk. We could gotten new actors and actress for Steve Rogers Thor Iron Man Black Widow Hawkeye and Nick Fury. For the new Nick Fury we would get White Nick Fury with Blue and White suit to make it different from Samuel L. Jackson Nick Fury
You are wrong. RDJ was done with marvel movies. Their plans for Kang flopped so they panicked and hired RDJ back, he couldn't say no to 50mill per movie.
You said in a past theory video that you think the starks adopted Tony, who was actually Doom all along.. how would that be possible if tony met his dad while getting the pim particles and he said his wife is about to go into labour?
I think they always planned to have doom, ofc with f4 and secret wars, but im not buying your theory since the original movie before secret wars was literally called The Kang dynasty. I personally thought it was originally going to be kang dynasty into secret wars part 1 and part 2
It might have always been the plan for secret wars but the movie was originally kang dynasty not secret wars.. so it guess everyone is right in a way.. secret wars just got moved up, right??
@@chillininthebasement Nah I don’t believe it was always the plan. Maybe an idea having a Kang and Doom (but not RDJ as Doom) work together in secret wars
@kadencastro8168 That's your choice. But, you couldn't be more wrong. There's a book about Marvel Studios. It's called Reign. It's in there. It may not have always been RDJ, although the Russos have been cooking this idea since Infinity War, but it was 100% always going to be Doom as the final boss.
@@chillininthebasement no your wrong. The Russo bros didn’t even know they were going to come back for any marvel movies since endgame. Not just Doom as the final boss but Kang and Doom. Kang is suppose to be the main villain of the Multiverse saga. It would be stupid to be Kang as a side character in secret wars or something and make it as if Doom was the actual villain. I could see both being the main villains in secret wars but Kang is the actual villain of this arc
Tony Stark was always a Von Doom he was adopted by the Starks hence why when he met his father in endgame and he was taking flowers and sauerkraut to his wife Stark made a weird face indicating that the timing wasn't right tell us the baby they had died and they adopted a baby that being Victor he never learned magic but he was still very intelligent and instead was a good guy
Josh is trying to manifest his It Was RDJ Doom All Along theory so bad, Bro. 😂 Please stop. 3 major things happened that caused Marvel to pivot twice: Chadwick Boseman passing, Ant-Man flopping, and Jonathan Majors case. Doom couldn’t be interjected in Wakanda Forever, and Jonathan got dropped. No where in there was setup for RDJ Doom. Evil Tony Stark =/= RDJ Doom. I can’t keep letting Josh cook on these theories. If Doom was their plan they wouldn’t have needed to reshape the stories now because it would’ve all led effortlessly in this Phase of the MCU.
Exactly bro. I unsubscribed cause of this. This dude sounding like a paid Disney PR 😂 Pathetic. It’s all ass pull and these nerds cant admit that simple fact
Ok let's say marvel was desperate..... Was Downey desperate to come back? I really doubt it. I know it's a pivot but I promise you that this is much better than the bullshit with Kang
Your wrong Kang screwed up and had to be replaced and he was and they had to find someone at the last minute to be Doom, and who did they call the number one box office hit who got killed and people where pissed about it so you bring him back as some one else . Great job you should've just brought Ironman back
Didn’t you make this same video already? No shot this was the plan all along….Disney execs/writers aren’t that clever. Kang was the plan all along and that bombed, so they’re falling back on their golden boy, RDJ.
Don’t know what u guys are on about . Sure kang dynasty would have been about him but secret wars would be about doom like in both secret war comics the og n 2015 it was doom…. So stop complaining it was going to switch to him either way.
This video and its initial stance on the subject is clearly for click bait purposes, but ill bite nevertheless. People don't think it'll suck because it wasn't planned out prior, people think it will suck BECAUSE OF THE CASTING ITSELF. RDJ is a phenomenal actor and no one is saying he isn't, but there are VERY few ways this could make sense in the context of the story and at every turn Disney is doubling down on doing NONE of them. The fact that you're telling me this was the plan all along speaks to the quality of the MCU in recent years. No one at Disney seems to understand what the fuck is going on or how to steer this ship correctly. Jonathan Hickman wrote a masterpiece, why is it SO difficult to bring a competent adaptation to the big screen? Not once is there a variant of stark as Doom, and there certainly isn't a version of Doom that JUST SO HAPPENS to look like Tony Stark. The latter of which has never even happened in marvel comic history, wanna guess why? Because its a terrible idea and terrible writing. Videos like this feed into the toxic positivity that is plaguing the MCU. We need to let Disney know that we think this shit is stupid, otherwise they'll just continue to make stupid decisions that don't serve ANYONE. Not the mcu fan, and definitely not og fans of the comics.
@adammorin2955 I never said there isn't a version of Tony in the comics who becomes Doom in one way or another. I said that there isn't a version of Doom, not Tony's soul switched with Doom but Doom himself, who just so happens to look exactly like Tony Stark. And yes, Stark is spelled with a k lol
@@Standout_ink but thats how the human brain works? You think of a theory and you find something out from leaks or outside sources and you change your original thinking. Making a video about is him being a RUclips
Cmon dude...Doom straight up took Kangs place
He’s gotta put out as much content as he can, his content is so cringe lol.
Nah nah nah nah nah .... They knew what they were doing the whole time. Part of the plan. Poppycock. Hush yourself
@@Evi1penguin5 they didn't. Kang was the plan until all the shit happened with the actor its literally so obvious
The arcs that go into Secret Wars dont have just one villain. Kang leads into Dooms part in Secret Wars. God Doom is half of the story in Secret Wars. I dont get why they cant just plagiarize the comics, its not hard. Thats what all the fans want, cohesion and continuity.
The arcs that go into Secret Wars dont have just one villain. Kang leads into Dooms part in Secret Wars. God Doom is half of the story in Secret Wars. I dont get why they cant just plagiarize the comics, its not hard. Thats what all the fans want, cohesion and continuity.
suuuurrrreee..... Just like how Palpatine coming back at the very last minuet was always planned.........Disney thinks we're all stupid
Yeah don't buy it
If you think that you understand the MCU better than Kevin Feige, then Disney is absolutely correct.
@@cosmictruthtortoise The MCU has turned to shit 💩 you don’t have to know about any Marvel property to see that. Disney has ruined every franchise they’ve touched. What excuse are you going to make
@@zw246these Disney defenders are funny af😂
@ They’re just stupid and obnoxious to me lol
I don't believe it was the plan all along, I still believe that Kang was the plan all along. Doom in Secret Wars is a last minute plan
I second this
I'm pretty sure it was Agatha all along
I think he was definitely going to be in secret wars at some point but I think Kang dynasty was still supposed to happen for sure before
Josh is hardcore delusional
@@Pinchington 😂😂
nobody hates Kang like Josh from den of nerds holy
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I think they had a plan for something with RDJ going into Endgame. The two things that always seemed weird to me in that movie is his reaction to Howard Stark when he says his wife is pregnant and the whole “You mess with time, it tends to mess back.” line. The look on Tony’s face when he says that to him it makes me think that the math was off it was supposed to be him. I think maybe there were complications and maybe they lost that child, so they adopted “Tony” from an orphanage in Latveria. That whole time line never sat right with me either. Maybe it was in reference to the glitch getting the original Power Stone in 2012, but I just thought there was more to that thought.
I WISH that was the Case. Disney Cant plan like that sadly. I am still waiting for the explanation of "I have telepathy' line in Endgame with Thor and Marvel. NO WAY that was just coincidence But Marvel just cant make plans like that.
BUT if Marvel can I also want to know where they were going with the line in Infinty War or Stark talking to Pepper about having a dream that she was pregnant even though it did happen in EndGame, I feel like there was a Story to be told with that EasterEgg there that we missed
I fully agree with that, and came to comments to say what was said at the end of this video. Doom being RDJ reveal was going to be a huge surprise when he would take Kang’s power, and we see his healed face for the first time. They just gave it away as an emergency plan to bring hype back, and, since all things Kang are forgotten, gave a lot of Kang’s plot points to Doom right away. BUT I always thought there had to be more to the reveal. Something else, that will still make the surprise worth it. Like this is not being a variant but our actual Tony. Or the thing that Josh is always preaching of 616 Iron man being a Doom variant.
Well, in the O.G Secret Wars, Doom killed Kang to take control.
I think doom was supposed to be the villain of the next saga, with the F4 as the leads, but then they pushed him up cause they couldn’t use Kang anymore.
With the influences in the comics, especially the Jonathan Hickman stuff, I don’t see how anyone could not believe Doom was the big villain. I never read those stories but anytime Josh brings that story arc up Kang isn’t even mentioned.
Now I know Josh is biased with his love for Doom. But the meat and potatoes of the story, the core essence, the major player was Dr. Doom. And if Kang was involved, he was just a footnote in comparison.
Now I do believe he would have played a role of some kind but there’s just no doubt in my mind Doom was always going to be the biggest baddie.
The behind the scenes scooper with the highest batting average in the game says that Doom was the plan all along, and that's good enough for me to believe it.
Nah not true and if it was it def wasn't rdj
@mustermas What do you mean not true? It was the same dude who was the first one to say rtdj was going to be Doom, the guy does not miss. Has not missed.
Well that's not true, and he definitely does not have the best track record. @@TheChzburger
Kang is heavily involved in the first Secret Wars comics!
Not really...he tries to take out Doom...then Doom reprograms Ultron and slays Kang...end of King's involvement...
Doom was definitely a later pivot made because of the Kang debacle but they’re using scoopers to give this course correction validity & instill confidence in the brand. All reports said Doom was supposed to be a villain for phase 7 until Ant-man did poorly & Jonathan Majors was found guilty for frantically running away from a white woman
People are not criticizing the Dr Doom idea, but rather the RDJ casting.
Exactly the casting not story idea is the issue
Josh don’t understand that
Damn. Now I have to erase my comment. Agreed tho. Why pay all that $$ for someone that has a mask on 100% of the time?
@@virtualrealityfitness283 he lives in his own bubble and has some racial bias against Jonathan Majors and Kang for some odd reason
This is by far One of your BEST videos mainly b/c i remember many of these reports in the past and YOU putting them together like this Makes soooo much sense along with the NEW idea that marvel isnt just throwing out all of those story lines that were suppose to be in other movies, instead they ARE putting those story lines In their bigger projects which HAS BEEN confirmed by Disney . So when u put ALL those stories together THIS whole thing makes Sense and even though I DO BELEIVE that Doom was suppose to be bad guy in Secret Wars I believe Kang was suppose to be the Big Bad AND Big Good leading up too it. i believe Moon Knight along with F4 (just like the Comics) was suppose to tackle the Kang from Egypt, Immoritus would go up against Dr Strange, and a Kang varient would be a Good guy and join the young Avengers which is one of the stories that wasnt included in THIS VIDEO. I just believe in the end Doom would be recruited to help Defeat the Kangs but turn on Dr Strange and F4 and the TVA in the end and be the big bad of just the two part Secret Wars Fantasti c breakdown and in less than a Yr we will see Proof that Josh was either Right
I could see Doom being a Secret Wars 2 bait and switch, but Kang was always meant to be the focus for SW1 and Kang Dynasty (obviously)
I mean, any story about Kang eventually has to include Doom..
The plan for RDJ to come back as Doom happened as soon as the Marvels lost them 250 million dollars
Just stop it. And it sucks either way.
Secret Wars without Doom is Infinity War without Thanos. Anyone who believes they know better than Kevin Feige is a simple fool. This was absolutely the plan off the rip. The only three things that made the story pivot were 1. The passing of Chadwick Boseman RIP. 2. The popularity of Majors as He Who Remains, and 3. Majors catching a case. I hope they hire Denzel to finish the Kang arc.🤞
Where were Silver Surfer, Death, Adam Warlock & Mephisto in the MCU’s Infinity War 🫳🎤 🪦
Don’t mic drop because lady death was there. She literally is so fast sending people to the after life that she can’t be seen. Also note that in the comics when the different universes fight they die sooo
Also side note silver surfer at the time was with galactas.
Mephisto was probably doing something with ghost rider not really involved doesn’t mean he can’t be in a movie
@ soooo we’ve resorted to making stuff up huh? It doesn’t matter if the lot of them were off at a cosmic sleepover where they all braided each other’s hair after the universe’s strangest orgy, at which they performed bukakke on Mistress Death. At her request, of course. Obviously Death almost actually died from drowning in Galactus’ load, but she surfed it because she’s a greedy little jizz gobbler. She even coined the event The Milky Way. You know it was orchestrated by her then husband Deadpool. He only watched though because he loves being a giant cuck. See, I can make stuff up too 💦🌊💀😛😶🌫️
I mean I mostly agree. I just don’t know they plan to connect Kamala’s bands and Shang Chi’s rings to Doom. I understood how they would do it with Kang, but I imagined all of that would happen before Doom came to do what he does in the comics. As I’m truly hoping and have always been hoping that there would be a Beyonder character that can serve as the villain until Doom is ready to make his move.
A evil iron man is like carnage in venom or red beetle in blue beetle. Doom should of been Doom, not a variant
What movie was doom going to take power Kang josh?....
“What happen *to Johnathan Majors” is accurate.
1) downy wouldnt return unless there wasnt a good reason for him to return. 2) they originally said that kang was not gonna be the end villian but because Jonathan's portrayal was so good the shifted him into being the end all villian
Everybody knew Doom would always be the main villain of Secret Wars, and would probably show up to save the day in Kang Dinasty. But, his role definetely changed completely since Kang Diansty is now Doomsday, making him the main villlain of that movie
its what they should have done honestly in wakanda forever, not the shit show that we got. Doom should have been in it PERIOD.
If yall never read secret wars just say that
Robert Pattinson is rumored to play Owen Reece/Molecule Man, also RDJ’s character is probably going to end up and hopefully the route to Infamous Iron Man, Johnny Depp as The Beyonder, but I believe we’re going to get Doom War in The Mutant Saga with this great film title, “Black Panther III: Wakanda Reborn” with Victor von Doom/Doctor Doom from the main actual sacred MCU World, which I believe it will be played by Cillian Murphy, but I do hope Jason Statham accepts the role as Tony Masters/Taskmaster.
Dr. DOOM WITHOUT HIS BACK STORY AND THE FANTASTIC 4 🤔 IDK 🤷🏾♂️
Imo the proof that Doom-Stark has been in the pipeline for some time now... is the elevator scene with both Starks in Endgame. It all makes sense now.
So, in Iron Man 1 - when his Stark bomb goes off and he passes out - he has a green armor plate.
brand Kang in the mcu in 2025 today now yes are no 😍😍😍😍😍
EXACTLY ❤
Sounds like HARDCORE copium to me
I feel it.
My marvel timeline: 11/26/24 update
-The infinity saga is arranged by looper and the following sagas are all arranged by me.
-All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
-Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself).
-I added the defenders, fox-verse, agent Carter and misc content to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps.
-The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
--infinity saga--
1. Iron man
2.iron man 2
3.Incredible Hulk
4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
5. Funny thing happened (*)
6. Thor
7. Capt. America
8. Agent Carter (*)
•[@-Agent Carter saga]
9. Avengers
•[A@-AOS S1:E6]
10. Item 47 (*)
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:1]
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:1]
•[DS@-The Defenders]
•[A@-AOS S1:E2-5]
•[A@-AOS S1:E7]
•[A@-AOS S1:E10-16]
11. Capt. America & winter soldier
•[A@-AOS S1:E17-22]
12. Thor: dark world
•[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
•[A@-AOS S1:E1]
13. Iron man 3
14. All hail the king (*)
15. Guardians of the galaxy
•[A@-AOS S2:E1-19]
16. Avengers: age of ultron
•[A@-AOS S2:E20-22]
•[A@-AOS S1:E9]
17. Ant man
•[A@-AOS S3:E1-19]
18. Capt. America: civil war
•[A@-AOS S3:E20-22]
•[@-Inhumans saga]
•[%-Ghostrider]
•[%-Ghostrider: Spirit of Vengeance]
•[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-6(WIP)]
•[%-Helstrom]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:2]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:3]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:2]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3]
19. Black panther
20. Spider man: homecoming
21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
22. Dr. Strange
•[%-Runaways]
23. Thor: ragnarok
24. Infinity war
25. Ant man & the wasp
26. Capt. Marvel
27. Endgame
---after tony saga---
28. Spider man: far from home
29. Thor: love and thunder
30. Falcon and the winter soldier
31. Black widow
32. Hawkeye
33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
35. Echo
36. Shang-chi
37. She hulk
38. Wakanda forever
39. Secret invasion
40. Moon knight
41. Werewolf by night
42. Wandavision
--multiverse saga--
43. Loki S:1
44. What if S:1
45. Quantumania
46. Loki S:2
47. What if S:2
48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse)
49. Venom ($)
50. Into the spider verse ($)
51. Venom 2 ($)
•[%-Spider man 1-3]
•[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
52. Spider man: no way home
53. Morbius ($)
54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
55. Across the spider verse ($)
56. Venom 3 ($)
57. Ms. Marvel
58. The marvels
•[@-X-men 96]
59. X-men 97
•[%-Fox X-men saga]
•[%-The new mutants]
•[%-Legion S:1-3]
60. Deadpool
61. Deadpool 2
•[%-Fox Daredevil]
•[%-Elektra]
•[%-Fox Punisher]
•[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
•[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
•[%-Blade Trilogy]
62. Wolverine and Deadpool
63. Agatha all along
64. The eternals
65. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
66. Thunderbolts(€)
-Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. watch in progress (WIP). Next up…the gifted.
-I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
Unreleased content as of 11/26/24:
1.Thunderbolts(€)
2.Capt. America: brave new world(€)
3.Fantastic 4
4Avengers: Doomsday
5.Avengers: Secret wars
6.Daredevil: born again
7.Ironheart
8.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
9.Marvel zombies
10.Kraven
11.eyes of wakanda
12.Xmen97 S:2
13.What if… S:3
14.Wonder man
15.Spider-man Noir
16.Dr. Strange 3
17.Spider-man 4
18.The Midnight sons
19.Blade?
€-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
@-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
%-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos.
I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. Leigion and the new mutants, accompany the fox X-men saga. They have nothing to do with the Deadpool movies or mentioned anywhere alse on the MCU timeline. The ghost rider movies also contribute to the origin of Reyes’ Ghostrider in AOS S:4. Runaways was added because of the Dr. Strange references and mentions the Loa from cloak and dagger.
A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
Also some of these theory videos are utterly pointless about tony being adopted by the starks considering in endgame when they went back in time howard stark siad his wife is pregnant which was tony so gow could he be adopted when he came from the starks
So we're going to have at least three hulks, maybe four, the century, the gold guy from guardians, Wonder Man, Dr Doom, white vision, Wanda, Doctor strange and his girlfriend, and countless other super super powers, what the hell are the young avengers going to do without looking pathetic as all hell?
That's clearly a lie.
No he wasn't. If they had genuinely intended Doom to be the final boss, they would have named dropped him or made a Doom pun by now or visibly shown us some seeds that they planted in the Phase 4 projects. The closest we ever got was the Von D(something) Cupcakes van and a Latverian looking castle in Moon Knight and Mr Fantastic using a time platform in Dr Strange 2. You can't possibly believe that those minor Easter Eggs prove that it was always going to be Doom (and RDJ Doom on top of that). At least with Thanos he had minor cameos and references before Infinity War. And besides, weren't you one of the ones that was convinced The Beyonder (Kang version) was going to be the big boss for Secret Wars originally?
The only reason I would still want Kang is to show Doom just absolutely decimate the council of lames... I mean kangs
I still think RDJ is a Doom variant, we know this Doom is from F4's Universe, not 616. When they unveiled RDJ as Doom, there were a hundred other "dooms" on stage. Hinting he is one of many. Meaning we still havent met 616 doom.
I buy it. Hes super important to Secret Wars. Feige knows this. Sure, things got changed. Feige has always said theres a plan but that its fluid. So, yeah. Im sure Doom was always coming soon. But now sooner.
Nah I don’t believe it was always the plan. Maybe an idea having a Kang and Doom (but not RDJ as Doom) work together in secret wars
Not the plan all along at all..
The Kang cope that still exists has now reached pathetic status.
I do believe they always had a plan to bring RDJ back as a villain. But to bring him back as DOOM?? Naw i don't believe that. We know for a fact Marvel changed their whole setup moving forward after they saw Majors performance in Loki. We also know that they titled their next AVENGERS MOVIE after Kang. To say Doom was always the plan is nonsense bruh. I'm still a fan of the channel though lol.
I remember that concept art from a couple years ago
You either die a hero or get brought back from another universe and become the villain.
You are reachin' like Reed Richards bro....😂
No, it wasn't the plan all along. If it was, Dr. Doom should have been introduced since Phase 4, much like Loki in Infinity Saga. Starting as an all out villain, slowly evolving into an anti-hero. A character this big can't be introduced at the last minute. That's why the chose RDJ, to use a familiar face to cover for an unfamiliar character.
It wasn’t always the plan at all, they’ve just learnt from their mistakes with the Star Wars sequels about speaking truthfully when it comes to such things.
think you are 1000% on the money here, Josh… think Feige & Marvel hv always had a long game strategy and villainous RDJ was part of that…
what i DON’T think they were planning for was a nutsack CEO in Bob Chapek, Covid, 2 industry strikes, fans hating on Brie Larson, Sony threatening to take away TH’s Spider-Man, Chadwick Boseman’s tragic passing, the legal woes of Jonathan Majors all while the fandom was going apoplectic on The Eternals, Quantumania, She-Hulk, The Marvels, Secret Invasion and Love & Thunder…
think they ALWAYS planned to reunite the OG Avengers alongside X- Men, Fantastic 4 and Spider-Man as a show of force to reset the next 10-20 years and turn the entire MCU in its head with RDJ turning big time heel ⚡️⚡️⚡️💣💥
Doesn’t help that Quantumania, She-Hulk, love and thunder, the marvels. And the eternals all sucked
I think all kang are afraid of dr doom but one kang survived and meet molecule man
And then what happens AFTER SW? I swear, Doom better not die after SW....he is amazing! And RDJ is too old to continue playing him
I believe it, sounds like maybe Kang was going to be the villain of Kang Dynasty and Doom for Avengers Dooms day, and all they did was expand dooms role in two movies instead of one, just to remove Kang, makes sense to me
Nah. Kang was going to be villain for secret wars as well. It was probably going to have two major villains in that movie like Kang and Doom
Exactly....Kang isn't even in Secret Wars at all is He
I think the Russo brothers and Kevin feige had the idea of RDJ playing Doom all along!
P.S. Kang was beaten by ANTS!
DOOM laughed his mask off...!
I still wish they just kept Kang as the big bad and saved Dr. Doom for the next 3 phase big bad. Kang could have been the villain for the first Fantastic 4 movie. Could have two Kang for Young Avengers, one would have been Iron Lad. Young Avengers could have fought one of the Kang variant with the help of Hawkeye Antman and The Wasp Scarlet Witch and White Vision. Rama-Tut would have been in Moon Knight season 2. Scarlet Centurion would fight Shang-Chi and Iron Fist in Shang-Chi 2. And the last Kang would have been in Avengers The Kang Dynasty and Avengers Secret Wars and Kang would be Kang Beyonder who was behind everything, making sure Kang would be stop so he would be the last Kang. But in Avengers Secret Wars Julian McMahon Dr. Doom would take Kang Beyonder powers and become god empire Doom. After god empire Doom was stopped their was one Kang left and would have been in Avengers Forever. Chris Evans Chris Hemsworth Robert Downey Jr. Mark Ruffalo Jeremy Renner Scarlett Johansson and Samuel L. Jackson would do one more Avengers movie in Avengers Forever Iron Man and Black Widow variants would go back to their Earth Steve Rogers would go back to Peggy Carter when he time travel at the end of Avengers Endgame. Hawkeye passed his bow to Katie Bishop. Thor would be King of New Asgard since Valkyrie died in Avengers Secret Wars. Nick Fury would just quit being a Agent. And all is left is Hulk. We could gotten new actors and actress for Steve Rogers Thor Iron Man Black Widow Hawkeye and Nick Fury. For the new Nick Fury we would get White Nick Fury with Blue and White suit to make it different from Samuel L. Jackson Nick Fury
brand new Thanos in the mcu in 2025 today now yes are no 😍😍😍😍
You are wrong. RDJ was done with marvel movies. Their plans for Kang flopped so they panicked and hired RDJ back, he couldn't say no to 50mill per movie.
If it was the plan all along it doesn't make it less stupid with how they're going about it
You said in a past theory video that you think the starks adopted Tony, who was actually Doom all along.. how would that be possible if tony met his dad while getting the pim particles and he said his wife is about to go into labour?
How do you build it up yet have it be a twist though? Secret wars is all about the twist and reveal
IT HAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE DOOM!!!
No way this was their plan all along.
One of the Illuminati chairs was empty at Earth-838 in Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness! Could it have been 838 Doom?!?
I think they always planned to have doom, ofc with f4 and secret wars, but im not buying your theory since the original movie before secret wars was literally called The Kang dynasty. I personally thought it was originally going to be kang dynasty into secret wars part 1 and part 2
MCU needs HenryCavill as Dr.Essex for me
It might have always been the plan for secret wars but the movie was originally kang dynasty not secret wars.. so it guess everyone is right in a way.. secret wars just got moved up, right??
I do believe doom was always in the plan I just believe they had to fast forward his introduction due to the Majors situation
7:00 Kevin should have made the Celestial Island of Gravitonium for Brave New World to wrap back around to AoS
Kang is to Doom what Loki was to Thanos
You’re wrong , it was basically confirmed Majors was playing a beyonder Variant in Secret Wars
And where does Doom get his power in both versions of Secret Wars? The Beyonder(s). Doom was always the plan.
@@chillininthebasement Nah I don’t believe it was always the plan. Maybe an idea having a Kang and Doom (but not RDJ as Doom) work together in secret wars
@kadencastro8168 That's your choice. But, you couldn't be more wrong. There's a book about Marvel Studios. It's called Reign. It's in there. It may not have always been RDJ, although the Russos have been cooking this idea since Infinity War, but it was 100% always going to be Doom as the final boss.
@@chillininthebasement no your wrong. The Russo bros didn’t even know they were going to come back for any marvel movies since endgame. Not just Doom as the final boss but Kang and Doom. Kang is suppose to be the main villain of the Multiverse saga. It would be stupid to be Kang as a side character in secret wars or something and make it as if Doom was the actual villain. I could see both being the main villains in secret wars but Kang is the actual villain of this arc
Can we get Terrence Howard as Kang Prime aside RDJ Doc Doom
This 🤡 is dr doom that suck bad
I just took a 💩 and I don’t believe that was the plan.. Marvel = my 💩
If this is copium, then this is some of the best copium in the world. I hope it's real.
It’s all TOTAL ASS PULL cause Kang got arrested and everyone knows it. Stfu bro 😂 Marvel has sucked since introducing Multiverse and thats that period
Mal be wrong about everything Kendrick
Absolutely NOT.
Lies
Tony Stark was always a Von Doom he was adopted by the Starks hence why when he met his father in endgame and he was taking flowers and sauerkraut to his wife Stark made a weird face indicating that the timing wasn't right tell us the baby they had died and they adopted a baby that being Victor he never learned magic but he was still very intelligent and instead was a good guy
A good guy? Or was raised by good parents? Thats difference between tony and victor
Wow
Naw im with him i think this was the plan all along
Josh is trying to manifest his It Was RDJ Doom All Along theory so bad, Bro. 😂 Please stop. 3 major things happened that caused Marvel to pivot twice: Chadwick Boseman passing, Ant-Man flopping, and Jonathan Majors case. Doom couldn’t be interjected in Wakanda Forever, and Jonathan got dropped. No where in there was setup for RDJ Doom. Evil Tony Stark =/= RDJ Doom. I can’t keep letting Josh cook on these theories. If Doom was their plan they wouldn’t have needed to reshape the stories now because it would’ve all led effortlessly in this Phase of the MCU.
Exactly bro. I unsubscribed cause of this. This dude sounding like a paid Disney PR 😂 Pathetic. It’s all ass pull and these nerds cant admit that simple fact
The cope
A plan of desperation that I will not support.
Ok let's say marvel was desperate..... Was Downey desperate to come back? I really doubt it. I know it's a pivot but I promise you that this is much better than the bullshit with Kang
That’s like the one thing people forget is downey is know in hollywood he didn’t NEED this role but he chose to. Why? Because he understands why
I shall watch this 30000 times
Creature Commandos HYPE!! DC 📈 MCU 📈 Star Wars 📉
That would explain why Tony Stark was often avoided in WHAT IF
Your wrong Kang screwed up and had to be replaced and he was and they had to find someone at the last minute to be Doom, and who did they call the number one box office hit who got killed and people where pissed about it so you bring him back as some one else . Great job you should've just brought Ironman back
Why though? He didn’t need the money? He could land any movie in hollywood now but he chose to
Didn’t you make this same video already? No shot this was the plan all along….Disney execs/writers aren’t that clever. Kang was the plan all along and that bombed, so they’re falling back on their golden boy, RDJ.
I want to thank Jonathon Majors for being a bad person. If not for his transgressions, it may have taken Marvel 20 years to setup Doom.
How Much they paying you bro
Don’t know what u guys are on about . Sure kang dynasty would have been about him but secret wars would be about doom like in both secret war comics the og n 2015 it was doom…. So stop complaining it was going to switch to him either way.
This video and its initial stance on the subject is clearly for click bait purposes, but ill bite nevertheless. People don't think it'll suck because it wasn't planned out prior, people think it will suck BECAUSE OF THE CASTING ITSELF. RDJ is a phenomenal actor and no one is saying he isn't, but there are VERY few ways this could make sense in the context of the story and at every turn Disney is doubling down on doing NONE of them. The fact that you're telling me this was the plan all along speaks to the quality of the MCU in recent years. No one at Disney seems to understand what the fuck is going on or how to steer this ship correctly. Jonathan Hickman wrote a masterpiece, why is it SO difficult to bring a competent adaptation to the big screen? Not once is there a variant of stark as Doom, and there certainly isn't a version of Doom that JUST SO HAPPENS to look like Tony Stark. The latter of which has never even happened in marvel comic history, wanna guess why? Because its a terrible idea and terrible writing. Videos like this feed into the toxic positivity that is plaguing the MCU. We need to let Disney know that we think this shit is stupid, otherwise they'll just continue to make stupid decisions that don't serve ANYONE. Not the mcu fan, and definitely not og fans of the comics.
Theres tony starc becomes doom in the comics
@adammorin2955 I never said there isn't a version of Tony in the comics who becomes Doom in one way or another. I said that there isn't a version of Doom, not Tony's soul switched with Doom but Doom himself, who just so happens to look exactly like Tony Stark. And yes, Stark is spelled with a k lol
This guy loves to make up content, he believes is right.
And you believe you’re right
@adammorin2955 I'm not making any content on rumors and theories. Then, change it every single video I make
@@Standout_ink but thats how the human brain works? You think of a theory and you find something out from leaks or outside sources and you change your original thinking. Making a video about is him being a RUclips
Shill
I'll watch this on all of my devices
No I won’t bcuz no it wasn’t
clickbait
Rage bait