I used to baby all my guns until one day an old timer at the range told me “don’t worry too much these things have explosions inside of them all the time”
Thats true im a new gun owner and i still like to baby them some what because of finish. I am fully aware my benelli m4 can take an explosion like a grenade but i dont want it looking like shit after i spend 3k plus on it especially if im 18 lol.
@@slaughter_salvo3298 Yeah I think it's because an expensive investment. So normally if something is expensive you want to take care of it and make it look like it was when you first got it.
I've shot with both types. The look on the "can't scratch it" people when you repeatedly mortar a gun to try and get it open and eventually beat the bolt open with a mallet to get it open. The guys beating on it looking at the others saying if your $2k gun can't handle it then it isn't worth $2k!
The problem is that most FFL dealers charge an Arm and a penis for firearms and people are not programmed to buy damaged goods. Not to mention that when it’s time to sell, people nitpick the paint chipping from a light mount for ball busting prices.
Everyone has different budgets. I may treat my carry gun like a prostitute. But for the guy who had to save up for a year to get a Glock 19 and put an RMR on it, it may mean more to him. Everyone is going to have a different line as to what they define as “safe queens.”
I would agree to that, my dad was a machinist, so I was taught to take extremely good care of my tools. This lead to me some times being poked at so to speak because i make sure all of my guns are well cared for. It is all relative
I think these guys sounded pretty arrogant this time. We don’t all work in the industry and have the opportunity to treat a $1k gun like a tramp. Most of us work really long and hard to get an $800 ak not only do we have the snobs telling us it’s shit but now these guys with this. I don’t know. This one just struck me the wrong way.
This whole video could be condensed down to about 10 seconds, with Chad's closing line. "At the end of the day, though, I mean, you do what you want with your guns, but don't bother me about it." 🤣
Rob Ski talks about this a lot, particularly in the context of how you set up your rifle. NO ONE is going to be pulling that trigger BUT YOU! It doesn't matter what other people think!!!
Good advice is needed for some though. If it’s your carry piece or home protection piece, you should be cleaning it and checking for maintenance diligently. If they are range toys etc then ppl should do as they please. When ppl that put a few thousand rounds between cleanings on their carry gun, I don’t think it’s out of line to tell them to rethink that and explain why. Especially if it’s a family member
It’s funny seeing“battle worn” custom coatings on firearms the owners are afraid to shoot because it might scratch! Remember the days when you could tell if a gun was hanging in a pickup window rack by the one-sided sun fade and scuffs?
My 270 Winchester looks just like that we used to have them in our truck window and go hunting after school Don’t think you could get away with that nowadays
Yeah, "zombie custom" with custom scuff 'n' rough gree-hue paintjob seems to be a thing at the moment. Yuck. Nothing wrong with an all-black rifle/gun with a few scratches and scuffs from use, or even just a standard oiled wood & blued metal combo.
@@berniestraight126 not even a chance, dogs are trained for smelling gunpowder and my friend almost got expelled for having spare 9mm and .308 rounds in his truck bag, not boxed loose ammo accidentally left in the bag.
@@33cltn just within 30 years our country has went completely to sh*t! It didn’t even cross a cops mind if you kept a rifle in your pickup, now you get the dogs and suspected of God only knows what! While they turn a blind eye to blm and aliens crossing our borders! F*ck the thin blue line. There’s good cops and I know a few, but the majority are a bunch of job protecting pussies that have no respect for our country. Talk is cheap and they have a lot of it!!!
Most all of mine are. I am talking all classics Garands (5 Springfields) M1 Carbine Winchester 2 Nazi marked Hi powers 9 700 Remington's Varmint specials w/Unertal scopes (older) 03 Springfield 4 Colt 1911s 2 1918 a 1915 and a 1995 29-2 S&W .44 Mag 11 older Mk 1&2s 6 older Mini 14s 4 Older Ar15s 3 Colt's and an Armalite 2 M1As NM & SM older 870s Glock 21 etc. and I'd shoot more except for ammo prices, and I HATE cleaning guns!
Inflation is eating the value out of the dollar. A legit safe queen is a repository of value, like gold or real estate, e.g. a 1930s Colt Revolver was $32, that's $511 in today's dollars.
Crazy Fred is right up there with the guy that buys a brand new truck and drives right off the lot and runs it through the brush and scratches the piss out of it
You should point out how the " militia " in Ukraine is working to save their country. Exactly like our 2A was meant to do by our founding fathers. I have a Weatherby Mark 5 in Weatherby 7mm Magnum I bought brand new in Germany in 1967. I have never fired it and do not intend to (my osteoporosis would go well for my shoulder). I just really APPRECIATE for what it is. One day someone will fire it, but it will be theirs then. I just enjoy looking at it.
It does show in the Ukraine that people need to be trained and encouraged how to shoot so if any trouble starts they know how to hit something. In Australia the laws make owning weapons restrictive, expensive and unworkable in what we can get.
I've got a Garand in 30-06 that is in absolutely mint condition. I show it on my channel often.. It is absolutely a safe queen. Any time I bring it out, I am very careful to not scratch anything. Besides that, I have a massive arsenal of other equipment I can use that I don't mind putting wear on.
My late stepdad's are my safe queens. I've shot them all and they work great, but they only come out for special occasions. I don't shoot my old colt hammerless pistols often but I do shoot them. Just not as much as the actual home defense guns I need to practice with. Some guns should bring enjoyment for other reasons. Recently sold a SW model 29 in perfect unfired condition because I never shot it so I sold it. Great gun, beautiful. Totally useless to me. You all do what you want
I have they same thing going. The safe is full of my half of old mans collection and what my brother had left when he passed. I keep them because they really loved them and many of them I spent time helping building/fixing/sighting them, or they had them so long things would feel strange without them around, and then there's the ones that are rare, or so odd ball, I won't part with them. Outside of the new in the box unfired stuff I'll shoot them all if the feeling hits me. I was considering parting with things like the an unfired 30 luger P38 and its WW2 marked 9 counterpart, or a series 70 1911 and Colt re-issue GI 1911, but I not going to give them away. Seriously, i was asking slighly more than what was payed for them years ago, and people were offering half of that when you couldn't find anything out there.
I have ones I like to shoot, others that don't leave the safe too much. I am selling those. I don't have any collectable, or sentimental, so my thought is practice with everything you have. Because in the Zombie apocalypse I need to be proficient in everything i keep ammo for.
Only time I really worry about finish wear is if I think it'll cause corrosion/rust. I wouldn't necessarily call them safe queens, but I do like to take good care of them. Just like any tool, you'd want them to last as long as possible, without having to replace it.
This. Just because you can drive your car into the lake, doesn’t mean you should. You should put your car through the car wash, freshen it up, oil it up and generally just not do dumb shit lol! 😂
Honestly I love the look of a well used tool. I’m a mechanic first and a shooter second so all of my tools, gun or impact drivers are going beat up, my theory is if they can’t handle abuse how am I supposed to rely on it if the time comes? Love the videos guys keep em up!
I’m a big fan of the new camera setup. The individual shots for whoever is speaking make this seem less like two guys with a tripod and more like a full scale production. Chad, you were the “cool kid” for years, take pride in your reputation with these young fellas and be patient. Keep up the great content!
lol my SCAR tipped over at the range and my friends were horrified, I was like, guys it's a tool, if it can't take a fall or some hits, what's the point? I dropped it back down in the dirt and they couldn't believe it, I did exactly what you said, I reloaded it, and put a round on steel at 500. I run my guns hard, I don't treat them like babies. But to your point I have a few classics I do not treat that way.
I mean to be fair it’s a 3000 dollar rifle. I’m sure they’d be just as horrified if someone dropped their similarly valued Wilson Combat or Nighthawk 1911 on the ground too. Some people might scoff at the price tag being used to explain why some folks baby a firearm, but when the average gun owner spends 400-800 on a basic Glock or M&P-15 Sport and see the guy next to them with a gun worth 5x as much get run hard and banged up, I can at least understand why they might look a bit horrified by that when the dollar signs are what’s flashing through their brains.
@@Verdha603 The point I was making is that I don't treat my high-end rifle like a safe Queen I run it and use it hard because it's meant to be used. And just like the guys said in the video there are certain rifles and handguns that are collector pieces that I would not run like that or use in that format. I just think a lot of people buy an expensive rifle like a scar or whatever it may be and never really use it the way it's meant to be used and trained with. But to each his own.
@@DucatiGTS Oh I definitely agree with you on that; regardless of the price tag if the intent is to actually use it and get proficient with it then yes putting a lot of rounds through it and eventually collecting good honest wear on it should be expected. I was simply commenting on how one of the more common reason's many people go overboard and act surprised/shocked when you don't baby an expensive firearm is because frankly a majority of gun owner's will never buy a high-end, expensive firearm, never mind actually go out and shoot it, hence the disconnect.
I get if someone wants to keep there shit looking good, nothing wrong with that. Some people like to keep it cherry. Some people don’t care about scratches, I get that too. I personally treat my firearms nice, but I also treat my mechanic tools nice ( some of them cost as much as a firearm), I treat my carpenter tools nice as well. It’s all about the person and the person that owns them. If I decide to sell it, you get more out of it. Like you said the older you get and the more you have matters on this issue as well…
I do that with new motorcycle helmets. Literally as soon as I buy it, I drop it on concrete. An older rider told me to do that years ago and it’s just something I stuck with for some reason.
I bought a ~30 year old Browning 1895 30-40 Krag (one of 2000 made) in unfired condition that spent its entire life in a safe... I immediately took it out and shot it... I want to enjoy this gun that the previous owner was never able to enjoy.....
Shooting doesn't mean damaging. Carry guns, Range guns, Hunting guns, and Home protection guns are tools to be used. I do have stuff that I would shoot but in a place where they wouldn't be damaged. The guns I haven't fired are due to time more than anything. Great video.
I have an old Stevens 16 gauge side-by-side double barrel that the stock has a crack in it the rest of it's not in the best shape but it was my grandfather's , He had told me that when he first met my father my grandfather was going hunting across the street from the house, they lived in a very wooded area, my grandfather had to let my father use the 16 and told him keep his fingers away from the triggers and leave it unloaded especially since once in awhile it would drop both barrels , he said be careful till they get over there because they had to climb over a stone wall and get across a field, the first Stonewall that they get to my grandfather climbs over my father starts climbing over well the big dummy must have had his fingers the other triggers dropped both barrels almost blew my grandfather's feet off, that was the end of that my grandfather grabs both guns and went straight back to the house he was so pissed, lol my mom said that he was walking around grumbling about damn City Boys lol
The prettiest safe that I own. My father's 12ga western field shotgun. It belonged to the man who raised my father. Manufactured in the 1930's . It is scratched, dents, and staining from years of putting meat on the table. Love your show!
I shoot all my guns but I like to keep them in good working condition , and also maintain/ keep the finish looking good . I’m careful placing it my range bag or case and try not to have and shearing forces across the gun or place them in hard surfaces if I have to I usually have a micro fiber to place it on . I know it’s a little extra but I enjoy shooting and keeping them Looking good
This makes me think of lifted Trucks and Jeeps that have wenches, anti slip lock in wheels, a button to adjust suspension while rock climbing and a 15 grand paint job that is just for Car Shows and Poon Tang lol
Your intro hit close to home, I have a California Tiger SVD Dragunov that shows zero signs of being fired. It has no burns or marks on the breech face, no chips from ejecting brass, or scuffs on the feed ramp or chamber. It came to me as never fired outside of the factory and was complete with the mint matching scope, a beautiful leather fitted bag, two mint magazines, original paperwork from the very early 90s, oiling bottle, etc. I also got two big cans of Russian 7.62x54R ammo for it, approximately 400 rounds of range ammo and another of steel core “armor piercing” rounds. This beautiful mint beast has been sitting on my rifle rack since the day I got it 5+ years ago. I would love to shoot it as I hear they are beautiful shooting rifles but I can’t bring myself to devalue it. After all, there are fewer and fewer “unshot” SVDs on the U.S. market and they have steadily appreciated since I got it. While I would love to just buy a second one as a “shooter”, it just doesn’t fit my current budget. Got any suggestions for me?
my dad has my great grandpa's calvary ww1 single action army. its amazing and beautiful, but we still went out and shot it before. it was awesome to shoot something with that history with my dad. I feel the same way about guitars, cars, whatever. a scratch is going to happen now and then. as long as it works it literally doesn't matter
Same with guitars. A brand new Stratocaster with one scuff is horrific and loses it’s value quickly. Drag it down the road behind a truck and it’s now a relic and worth 7 times the price of a new American standard.
I was hoping you would provide insight into which guns are worth keeping on the nightstand, which ones to hide somewhere, which ones should you sleep with, which ones to lock in the trunk, which ones to put in a safe, and which ones to hide at your secret bugout location.
At about 20 minutes into the video, I had to pause it and write this comment. As a mechanic, and a gun owner, I used to keep all my snap-on tools super clean and looking like new for as long as possible. After a while, they would just get a little wipe down to remove any excess grease. Now I more often than not just put em back in the toolbox dirty. But I can guarantee you that even though some of them are over 30 years old from when I bought them brand new, they still function like the day they were made. My edc which is a ruger ec9s has plenty of wear and tear on it, but I would still bet my life on it if the situation ever presents itself. Like one of my former snap-on tools reps had printed on every invoice, 'buy the best and cry only one'. Not saying that the ec9s is the best option for everyone, but it suits me to a t. Being a thin person who concealed carries appendix evry day and has put at least a thousand rounds through this firearm for training purposes, I have no apprehensions in it or myself.
Yeah, my bedside gun gets broke down, dusted, cleaned, wiped out, tested, dry fired and checked out probably monthly I would say. I do the same thing with back up guns, truck guns and my wife’s carry gun as well. As far as all my other guns, they hardly ever get actually cleaned. Unless I go out and shoot a whole lot, I don’t clean them often. I don’t see the need.
I've seen multiple people bring pump shotguns back to where they purchased them because the magazine tube started getting scratched up. Im like are you foreal. While I do have some rare, collectible, and sentimental guns, I don't have a firearm I won't shoot. Things from a over 100 year old Winchester 94 from my grandfather that was supposedly never fired and i went and took a deer with it. I have a Ithaca ww2 1911 thats in amazing condition. Actually never seen one in better condition. I Still ran a few mags through it just for fun. My fathers 12 gauge over under that was built for him when he was in his teens. Its not worth much but it has 26in barrel instead of the usual 28in on a O/U bird gun which keeps it short and light. Ive carried it many miles hunting and it points and swings amazing. I hope my son carries that gun through a field hunting one day. You can enjoy things and still use them while also taking good care of them. Your only alive once buying things to look at them every once in a while isn't fun. I'm into watches as well and people will buy a fine timepiece and not wear it. I'm like that's what it's for to be worn and enjoyed.
I agree. Firearms were built to be used. Hey if you’re careful even precious, antique and collectible firearms can be used if not abused and never be the worse for wear. If you’ve got an old firearm and it’s actually been fired sometime along the line, use it and enjoy it.
I have a .22 that has a family history from 1911 that we don’t really shoot but that is more because when we did the chamber was so worn out it split the cases
The closest things I have to a safe queen are my trap shotguns, but they've seen hundreds of thousands of rounds and they DO show wear. I just care for them the best I can while still using the hell out of them!
Love the segment. I had a commemorative Winchester and sold it because it just chapped me that I couldn’t shoot it. Looked great, but if I can’t shoot it I no longer have room for it in my safe. Traded it for a older Winchester lever gun which looks great, but I still take it to the range. It is meant for my enjoyment!
This makes me think of the Fender and Gibson custom shops that produce relics. Knock those things off the stand and don’t even inspect them for damage before you pick it up and put it back. 👍🏻
Funny enough I've seen Gibson have a few of those reliced guitars on there website in the discount, dents and dings page. I'll never understand why lol
Spot on with the cleaning of guns. It became too much of a hassle to take apart, clean, and reassemble each gun just because I put 50 or less rounds through.
Nah. Unless you’re under special situations, or unless you’re in the military, or just bored… Ain’t no reason. I clean mine once a month. Just strip down my glock and clean it out and check things out. Then again, I do that for my car aswell lol so, it’s a tool. It’s not gonna implode not being cleaned once after 20 rounds
@@aandyherr817 except when it's a luger and there are 40+ moving parts to clean. That's my safe queen, mostly because of its history. But also because of the complexity of the teardown
My daily carry literally has the factory finish warn off in some places. Because it literally is carried every day, all day it gets dust in it. It gets cleaned at least once a quarter just to make sure it will run when it really needs to.
My only safe queens aren’t really safe queens. They’re retired warriors 😂😂 only guns that stay in the safe and don’t ever leave unless someone wants to see them are the old old guns that were passed down to me. Old shot guns mainly. Old bolt action shot guns, and single shots, old semis and over unders and sidexsides. They’re too old to shoot. They would fire for sure but there’s a chance they’ll fall apart and I would rather just keep them in their current condition.
I admit to having one “safe queen”. My 09’ Ruger SR556. Not that it’s currently a super high dollar collectible. More that based on what I know about it, I think it WILL be. I want it pristine and with all included accessories and manuals for my grandkids! I do take it out and shoot it once or twice a year but I have many, many more that are well used! I have high dollar Colts, BCMs, Spike’s and others that are just “tools”. I just think the Ruger will be a collectible in the future and choose to keep it as like new as possible. If I’m wrong, oh well. Some dependent will just inherit a pristine AR among my other “used” ARs and firearms.
It's not that uncommon that no matter how well you take care of your prized firearm, the next caretaker may not care so much and beat the hell out of it. I know of a case where a fella had a rare firearm in mint unfired condition. He bought it as a kid and he was in his seventies. He began to downsize and instead of willing that gun to his son he just decided to give it to him personally. A short time later his son came over and said dad that gun shoots good. The father said you fired it, I can't believe you fired it. The son said well I thought that's what it was for.
I have an original 1860 civil war issued colt, I have shot it but I don't typically shoot it and as a cap and ball I cleaned it extremely well. Other than that I bought it to shoot it, I don't really do safe queen.
Anybody that actually carries a firearm every single day knows there’s absolutely no getting around wear and tear on your edc. If you carry your gun like you should, it’s going to get worn a little bit. It’s not going to effect the way it runs or it’s reliability. Even ugly people can love you right 😂😂
I have guns I don’t shoot, because I can’t afford to fix them if they break. That stands until I have enough disposable income to overcome that liability
Unless you put tens of thousands Through your guns I think you’ll be OK to shoot them 😂. You’re the type of guy they’re talking about. Scared you’re gonna break your guns from normal use
It reminds me a lot of my old Bari Sax. That thing cost more than every gun, optic, and bullet I have ever purchased combined. It’s beat to hell. The end is dented and it’s even had a few last minute repairs with bread ties. But at the end of the day it’s still in tune, works perfectly, and sounds great. Don’t worry about keeping things looking perfect, keep them working perfectly.
I freaking love how anti-authority y'all are :D Every time y'all tell people to do something, y'all qualify it with 'if you want to' or something. I'd hate to be the cop who pulled y'all over
I got some original flint lock safe queens. They might only see daylight on the 4th of July. One day my Ar with numerous coats of paint might be a family heirloom one day and maybe somebody will treat it nicer than me. I got an old single shot 16 gauge that's been my go to deer gun for 25 years. It's a tool.
To each his own. My Garand I got as a high school graduation present is a safe queen I only shoot on special occasions. My 1800 dollar milled Arsenal AK I throw in the bed of my pick-up then ride down a rough dirt road like I don’t even care.
I had a friend years ago that had the same approach as Fred. He had a friend that had purchased a nice classic car about a year before. But the guy literally hadn't driven the car once. He would ask him every time he saw him whether he bought the car to actually drive or just to look at it. And every time the guy would tell him he was just so terrified that he was going to park it somewhere and come back to a ding somewhere. After the last time he told my friend this my friend walks slowly back to his car and pulls a hammer out of the trunk and starts walking towards the guys car. The guy frantically asks him what the hell he's doing, and he tells him I'm going to take this hammer and put a big fat dent in the bumper so you don't have to worry about the first dent anymore and you'll actually take this thing out of the garage and drive it. He didn't actually end up smashing up the bumper, but the guy finally realized how silly he was being and started actually using the car for what it was intended instead of just being a decoration in his garage.
I run WW2 guns in 3 gun competitions. I had someone comment "These guns need to be in a museum not out here getting beat up" I always reply they went through a world war I think they can handle this. I don't purposely beat mine up but a scratch or scuff ain't the end of the world.
I use to have a Winchester M1 Garand and it seemed like every time I took it out to shoot someone makes that comment “you shouldn’t shoot this, it belongs in a museum” lol I sold it for good coin and a betcha it’s sitting in a safe.
@@puZAEdr Yeah none of my rifles are safe queens. Love running my SVT40 in 3 gun. Also just picked up a DTM neutered LMG I want to run 3 gun with that but need a little more arm strength first lol
This is 100 percent accurate. Most folks worry about the superficial stuff too much at first but then you get over it over time. Same thing with cleaning. They do not need to be cleaned every trip and a fouled bore shoots better than a clean one.
I'm guilty of probably over cleaning after a range session. Half a day at the range and another half a day cleaning. I don't physically clean for a half day, lots of bore solvent soaking.
I`m guilty of that also but that`s half the fun getting to admire your firearm , finish, design and for those that have nice wood oh yeah. Plus it helps you keep familiarized with each firearm.
Like many, I used to baby my guns. Gave up on that a while ago. Now it has dust bunnies and the only thing I keep cleaned on that thing is my optic glass. Great video.
So much to digest. People, own guns, (and other things), for different reasons. Here’s a question for you- If you were given the choice to - (1) own one gun that you could shoot as please, but you could only have that ONE gun. OR (2) have ANY number of guns that you want, any type, but the catch is that you cannot shoot any of them… You can only handle them, disassemble them, clean them, and admire them. I’ll bet there are more than a few people who would choose the latter. Yes, I love shooting, but I also just love handling tools.
I'm very lucky that I don't fall into any "normal " category. If I own something, I will use it. For example, if I hit the luck lotto and someone gave me a 10,000$ Ymir serial number 1 that has never been out of the box, the very first thing I would do is bring it home and run a few hundred rounds of box store brand 230 grain fmjs through it. I want to know that anything that I own is going to work. My life might depend on it someday. Keep up the great work and stay safe and free 👍
If you are a collector/shooter you should get 2 guns. I have a 1953 Izhevsk SKS, unissued, non-refurb that is a safe queen. But I also have a type 56 SKS that I put 1000s of rounds through.
When I was a little kid I remember destroying a lot of stuff I owned and even didn't own. Now that I'm becoming more and more of an adult I rate myself on how well I keep things. So when I find a knock in one of my milsurps I do get a bit of a panic or anxiety. Maybe it's mental for people and they kind of do the same thing. Not to mention how expensive these guns have gotten.
Part of my main concerns with buying a collector gun is if I can shoot it. I've turned down alot of interesting guns because they just aren't shootable. The fact that a gun is over 100 years old and still functional and usable is part of my interest in the collector's gun
I’ve been thinking about this since the video. I have 2 safe queens, but I do shoot them both. A S&W model 10 that was my grandpa’s pistol when he was a LEO in the 1950’s. The other is my 30-06 that my other grandpa bought me when I was 16. Out of all the guns I have. Those are the ones I will keep forever and pass down to my son.
I have no safe queens, but I have my collectors that only see range use and I have my workhorses.. my AKs, especially my AK-103, is my go-to gun for everything I need a rifle for.. my carry guns are both well used and carried.. while I don't go out of my way to beat the shit out of them, I'm not worried if they do eventually have a few scars/wears
I love the wear, nicks, and scratches on all my guns; it shows use, purpose, and character. My favorite is a AKM that is totally roached out, it looks like a battle field pick up from Somalia.
The closest thing to a safe queen we have is my grandfather’s nylon 66. It’s so worn and faded and pitted that it looks like a beater and looks like it’s been left outside for 90 years. But it’s got a special place in the back of the safe. Especially since it’s been snapped and repaired
Hit the nail on the head, it Depends, all but 2 of my guns are used regularly and I don’t care if they get wear… but I have two “safe queens” 1 is a original colt single action, when I shoot it it goes from foam box, loaded, fired, stripped, cleaned, back to the box. Second one was a custom built recreation of a “service rifle” from fallout. Every other gun I have gets used.
I was trading someone an ak and they backed out just because it had that line from the saftey...... a unavoidable feature Have also had problems selling/trading any 1911 with the “idiot mark”
Chad, you had a "buddy for life"! 😂 I once had a guy introduce himself as Vern while we were standing at adjacent urinals in a small town bar. He followed me around the bar for 30 minutes until he passed out. My friends refer to Vern as my "buddy for life"!
As a Canadian almost every gun I own is now a safe queen, even the new unused unopened guns I just bought to replace my new safe queens- now safe queens. They ban them faster than I can get new ones.
Poor Chad I feel you I think ANYONE in the service industry knows exactly what Chad is talking about Imagine checking someone out at a grocery store and they start telling you about when their dad died
I think a point to consider is how you mentioned, the more guns you have, the less you feel inclined to take care of them unless it’s one of your prized possessions. I feel like to a new gun owner, their first couple guns are their ONLY prized possessions and that’s why they want to take care of it.
Let me also be because the new gun owner can only afford one firearm. Since they will only have that one, they want to make certain that it's in good condition at all times.
I have a browning sa 22 from early 80s( japanese) but it is absolutly immaculate. I small game hunt with it. What sucks is there is now sling mounts. She gonna rust. The one i wanted was the guys personalised one with a engraved squirrel on the stock and a ruby in the grip cap.
When I bought my last car I was hoping to keep it looking perfect as long as possible. Three weeks into it some doofus in the lane ahead of me swerved and lost his hubcap, and it busted out my fog light and dinged my bumper. I realized that unless I keep something hermetically sealed and never touch it the thing is going to get banged up one way or the other. Buy it to use or lock it up and pretend you don't have it.
I think it's pretty cool when you message some of these smaller compines about firearms or parts to modify your firearms with questions and you just get the CEO of the company on the phone, same thing when you message your favorite creator and they actually respond to you. It's a good feeling in the way that these people who, for me in many many ways, helped me get into firearms and help me get this knowledge base that I have now, actually SEE me as a person and not just a subscriber. Like if I ever see eric or chad in public I really would just want to walk up to them and thank them for all the enjoyment them and Bary gave me over all these years.
I’ve noticed 1911 owners are more concerned about finish than other firearm owners. It seem like they upgrade their 1911s for aesthetic upgrades opposed to functional upgrades. No offense just an observation.
watching chad go from 16 year old in high school to 50 year old history teacher retiree while Eric stopped aging is priceless...
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Lol. That's pretty accurate.
Man I never thought about it but your right. Eric is sucking the life out of Chad! Lol
@@greenbudzzz True that ! I Love it 😊
36:50 amen
I used to baby all my guns until one day an old timer at the range told me “don’t worry too much these things have explosions inside of them all the time”
😂 that’s gold! Sounds like something Hickok45 would say.
I baby guns worth babying, but those also don't get shot too often. Things like my ARs get the shit kicked out of them.
Thats true im a new gun owner and i still like to baby them some what because of finish. I am fully aware my benelli m4 can take an explosion like a grenade but i dont want it looking like shit after i spend 3k plus on it especially if im 18 lol.
@@slaughter_salvo3298 Yeah I think it's because an expensive investment. So normally if something is expensive you want to take care of it and make it look like it was when you first got it.
I've shot with both types. The look on the "can't scratch it" people when you repeatedly mortar a gun to try and get it open and eventually beat the bolt open with a mallet to get it open. The guys beating on it looking at the others saying if your $2k gun can't handle it then it isn't worth $2k!
Unfortunately a lot of my ammo has become safe queens
Seriously
I'm about to take my guns out of my safe an put my ammo in
I was just saying this..lol.. I literally got ammo that I do not touch🤣
357 Sig. Hard to get by me
Ammo stockpiling is security for your future
The problem is that most FFL dealers charge an Arm and a penis for firearms and people are not programmed to buy damaged goods. Not to mention that when it’s time to sell, people nitpick the paint chipping from a light mount for ball busting prices.
Yup. Talking about an $800 gun...
"It's got a ding on it so would you take $350?"
Or you go to sell and get what's his name from Pawn Stars.
"Best I can do is charge you $50 to tell you how to take better care of it."
Never sell guns only buy . Damaged goods are the best
@@mndeerhunter8215 exactly right, never sell guns.
Lmfao
Everyone has different budgets. I may treat my carry gun like a prostitute. But for the guy who had to save up for a year to get a Glock 19 and put an RMR on it, it may mean more to him. Everyone is going to have a different line as to what they define as “safe queens.”
Exactly. But also, don’t freak out if your glock 19 gets a scratch. If it won’t affect its usage, than don’t stress.
My WASR10 is my hot biker bitch and my Maverick 88 is a cool mistress. They don't fail in action (lol).
I would agree to that, my dad was a machinist, so I was taught to take extremely good care of my tools. This lead to me some times being poked at so to speak because i make sure all of my guns are well cared for. It is all relative
You had a good dad.
I think these guys sounded pretty arrogant this time. We don’t all work in the industry and have the opportunity to treat a $1k gun like a tramp. Most of us work really long and hard to get an $800 ak not only do we have the snobs telling us it’s shit but now these guys with this. I don’t know. This one just struck me the wrong way.
This whole video could be condensed down to about 10 seconds, with Chad's closing line. "At the end of the day, though, I mean, you do what you want with your guns, but don't bother me about it." 🤣
Rob Ski talks about this a lot, particularly in the context of how you set up your rifle. NO ONE is going to be pulling that trigger BUT YOU! It doesn't matter what other people think!!!
Seems they overuse the phrase "at the end of the day" in this one. But at the end of the week, it just matters that they made their point.
36:50 amen
Thank you for the TLDR 😂
Good advice is needed for some though. If it’s your carry piece or home protection piece, you should be cleaning it and checking for maintenance diligently. If they are range toys etc then ppl should do as they please. When ppl that put a few thousand rounds between cleanings on their carry gun, I don’t think it’s out of line to tell them to rethink that and explain why. Especially if it’s a family member
It’s funny seeing“battle worn” custom coatings on firearms the owners are afraid to shoot because it might scratch! Remember the days when you could tell if a gun was hanging in a pickup window rack by the one-sided sun fade and scuffs?
My 270 Winchester looks just like that we used to have them in our truck window and go hunting after school Don’t think you could get away with that nowadays
Yeah, "zombie custom" with custom scuff 'n' rough gree-hue paintjob seems to be a thing at the moment. Yuck.
Nothing wrong with an all-black rifle/gun with a few scratches and scuffs from use, or even just a standard oiled wood & blued metal combo.
@@berniestraight126 not even a chance, dogs are trained for smelling gunpowder and my friend almost got expelled for having spare 9mm and .308 rounds in his truck bag, not boxed loose ammo accidentally left in the bag.
I don't but that sounds cool!
@@33cltn just within 30 years our country has went completely to sh*t! It didn’t even cross a cops mind if you kept a rifle in your pickup, now you get the dogs and suspected of God only knows what! While they turn a blind eye to blm and aliens crossing our borders! F*ck the thin blue line. There’s good cops and I know a few, but the majority are a bunch of job protecting pussies that have no respect for our country. Talk is cheap and they have a lot of it!!!
Collectible/ rare guns and guns with sentimental value are what I consider safe queens.
Most all of mine are. I am talking all classics Garands (5 Springfields) M1 Carbine Winchester 2 Nazi marked Hi powers 9 700 Remington's Varmint specials w/Unertal scopes (older) 03 Springfield 4 Colt 1911s 2 1918 a 1915 and a 1995 29-2 S&W .44 Mag 11 older Mk 1&2s 6 older Mini 14s 4 Older Ar15s 3 Colt's and an Armalite 2 M1As NM & SM older 870s Glock 21 etc. and I'd shoot more except for ammo prices, and I HATE cleaning guns!
Those types of guns already have their character. The dings and scratches on a war used m1 garand make me splooge a little bit.
Absolutely all of those along with the ones where the ammo is ridiculously expensive to shoot.
Congratulations Georgians on the constitutional carry bill! Keep on the good fight!
Now if all the states can do that like the state I live in maryland would be lovely!!!
Did the governor signed it?
@@jeremiah7855 i suggest u may want to move.
Am in GA and I haven't heard this.?
@@eddyflo2978 Senate passed a bill 2-28, House still has to pass it but they are likely to. Kemp says he supports it but Kemp makes a lot of promises.
Inflation is eating the value out of the dollar. A legit safe queen is a repository of value, like gold or real estate, e.g. a 1930s Colt Revolver was $32, that's $511 in today's dollars.
I've never tried buying a Happy Meal with realestate or stock certificates, but I'll buy that too, when I can.
I'll soon run out of stock, too, and keeping property has it's own expenses, that I do know.
Crazy Fred is right up there with the guy that buys a brand new truck and drives right off the lot and runs it through the brush and scratches the piss out of it
Their are too many crazy Freds.
"It said offroad So I decided to take it to king of the hammers and it broke"
You should point out how the " militia " in Ukraine is working to save their country. Exactly like our 2A was meant to do by our founding fathers. I have a Weatherby Mark 5 in Weatherby 7mm Magnum I bought brand new in Germany in 1967. I have never fired it and do not intend to (my osteoporosis would go well for my shoulder). I just really APPRECIATE for what it is. One day someone will fire it, but it will be theirs then. I just enjoy looking at it.
It’s awesome how they are nit complaining about Masks or Vaccinations and grabbing a weapon and putting their life on the line.
Propaganda
@@droppingleaflets1148 needed propaganda. Maybe you should hang out on the pro Putin videos, oh snap, there aren’t any
It does show in the Ukraine that people need to be trained and encouraged how to shoot so if any trouble starts they know how to hit something. In Australia the laws make owning weapons restrictive, expensive and unworkable in what we can get.
@@davidvines6498 The propaganda is necessary because they are losing.
I've got a Garand in 30-06 that is in absolutely mint condition. I show it on my channel often..
It is absolutely a safe queen. Any time I bring it out, I am very careful to not scratch anything.
Besides that, I have a massive arsenal of other equipment I can use that I don't mind putting wear on.
My late stepdad's are my safe queens. I've shot them all and they work great, but they only come out for special occasions. I don't shoot my old colt hammerless pistols often but I do shoot them. Just not as much as the actual home defense guns I need to practice with.
Some guns should bring enjoyment for other reasons.
Recently sold a SW model 29 in perfect unfired condition because I never shot it so I sold it. Great gun, beautiful. Totally useless to me.
You all do what you want
I have they same thing going. The safe is full of my half of old mans collection and what my brother had left when he passed. I keep them because they really loved them and many of them I spent time helping building/fixing/sighting them, or they had them so long things would feel strange without them around, and then there's the ones that are rare, or so odd ball, I won't part with them. Outside of the new in the box unfired stuff I'll shoot them all if the feeling hits me.
I was considering parting with things like the an unfired 30 luger P38 and its WW2 marked 9 counterpart, or a series 70 1911 and Colt re-issue GI 1911, but I not going to give them away. Seriously, i was asking slighly more than what was payed for them years ago, and people were offering half of that when you couldn't find anything out there.
I have ones I like to shoot, others that don't leave the safe too much. I am selling those. I don't have any collectable, or sentimental, so my thought is practice with everything you have. Because in the Zombie apocalypse I need to be proficient in everything i keep ammo for.
@@chrisd4841 take the ones you plan to sell to the range first to make sure you don't like them, then clean and sell them.
I'm the opposite I don't think I could own a gun and not shoot it at least once like as soon as I got it I'm like a kid with a new toy
Only time I really worry about finish wear is if I think it'll cause corrosion/rust. I wouldn't necessarily call them safe queens, but I do like to take good care of them. Just like any tool, you'd want them to last as long as possible, without having to replace it.
This. Just because you can drive your car into the lake, doesn’t mean you should.
You should put your car through the car wash, freshen it up, oil it up and generally just not do dumb shit lol!
😂
Honestly I love the look of a well used tool. I’m a mechanic first and a shooter second so all of my tools, gun or impact drivers are going beat up, my theory is if they can’t handle abuse how am I supposed to rely on it if the time comes? Love the videos guys keep em up!
I’m a big fan of the new camera setup. The individual shots for whoever is speaking make this seem less like two guys with a tripod and more like a full scale production. Chad, you were the “cool kid” for years, take pride in your reputation with these young fellas and be patient. Keep up the great content!
lol my SCAR tipped over at the range and my friends were horrified, I was like, guys it's a tool, if it can't take a fall or some hits, what's the point? I dropped it back down in the dirt and they couldn't believe it, I did exactly what you said, I reloaded it, and put a round on steel at 500. I run my guns hard, I don't treat them like babies. But to your point I have a few classics I do not treat that way.
My simple response would be "It's an FN"
I mean to be fair it’s a 3000 dollar rifle. I’m sure they’d be just as horrified if someone dropped their similarly valued Wilson Combat or Nighthawk 1911 on the ground too.
Some people might scoff at the price tag being used to explain why some folks baby a firearm, but when the average gun owner spends 400-800 on a basic Glock or M&P-15 Sport and see the guy next to them with a gun worth 5x as much get run hard and banged up, I can at least understand why they might look a bit horrified by that when the dollar signs are what’s flashing through their brains.
@@Verdha603 The point I was making is that I don't treat my high-end rifle like a safe Queen I run it and use it hard because it's meant to be used. And just like the guys said in the video there are certain rifles and handguns that are collector pieces that I would not run like that or use in that format. I just think a lot of people buy an expensive rifle like a scar or whatever it may be and never really use it the way it's meant to be used and trained with. But to each his own.
@@DucatiGTS Oh I definitely agree with you on that; regardless of the price tag if the intent is to actually use it and get proficient with it then yes putting a lot of rounds through it and eventually collecting good honest wear on it should be expected.
I was simply commenting on how one of the more common reason's many people go overboard and act surprised/shocked when you don't baby an expensive firearm is because frankly a majority of gun owner's will never buy a high-end, expensive firearm, never mind actually go out and shoot it, hence the disconnect.
Can i key your truck for fun?
I get if someone wants to keep there shit looking good, nothing wrong with that. Some people like to keep it cherry. Some people don’t care about scratches, I get that too. I personally treat my firearms nice, but I also treat my mechanic tools nice ( some of them cost as much as a firearm), I treat my carpenter tools nice as well. It’s all about the person and the person that owns them. If I decide to sell it, you get more out of it. Like you said the older you get and the more you have matters on this issue as well…
I do that with new motorcycle helmets. Literally as soon as I buy it, I drop it on concrete. An older rider told me to do that years ago and it’s just something I stuck with for some reason.
I bought a ~30 year old Browning 1895 30-40 Krag (one of 2000 made) in unfired condition that spent its entire life in a safe... I immediately took it out and shot it... I want to enjoy this gun that the previous owner was never able to enjoy.....
“So what’s your thinkin there Fred ..?” .. my favorite quote from you Eric😂
Shooting doesn't mean damaging. Carry guns, Range guns, Hunting guns, and Home protection guns are tools to be used. I do have stuff that I would shoot but in a place where they wouldn't be damaged. The guns I haven't fired are due to time more than anything. Great video.
THey can always be restored when they get looking too tacky.
I have an old Stevens 16 gauge side-by-side double barrel that the stock has a crack in it the rest of it's not in the best shape but it was my grandfather's , He had told me that when he first met my father my grandfather was going hunting across the street from the house, they lived in a very wooded area, my grandfather had to let my father use the 16 and told him keep his fingers away from the triggers and leave it unloaded especially since once in awhile it would drop both barrels , he said be careful till they get over there because they had to climb over a stone wall and get across a field, the first Stonewall that they get to my grandfather climbs over my father starts climbing over well the big dummy must have had his fingers the other triggers dropped both barrels almost blew my grandfather's feet off, that was the end of that my grandfather grabs both guns and went straight back to the house he was so pissed, lol my mom said that he was walking around grumbling about damn City Boys lol
The prettiest safe that I own. My father's 12ga western field shotgun. It belonged to the man who raised my father. Manufactured in the 1930's . It is scratched, dents, and staining from years of putting meat on the table. Love your show!
I shoot all my guns but I like to keep them in good working condition , and also maintain/ keep the finish looking good . I’m careful placing it my range bag or case and try not to have and shearing forces across the gun or place them in hard surfaces if I have to I usually have a micro fiber to place it on . I know it’s a little extra but I enjoy shooting and keeping them
Looking good
I will wipe one down after handling, more for the corrosive skin oils.
I spray painted mine camouflage. Hahaha
Look good---or train and become skilled. Can't do both.
greatest quote ever "I don't have time to literally be your friend"
This makes me think of lifted Trucks and Jeeps that have wenches, anti slip lock in wheels, a button to adjust suspension while rock climbing and a 15 grand paint job that is just for Car Shows and Poon Tang lol
My shitbox XJ got the poon tang without all that glamour shit. Gonna love that bucket till she's a pile of rust
Oh, and the ones with that Carolina lean suspension and LED lightstrips in every crevice that the International Space Station can see them.
This was very refreshing as a fellow gun enthusiast and I look forward to hearing more videos like this.
I've seen a guy get worried about scuffing on the shell deflector of his AR
I put a piece of electrical tape on the deflector every 3 rounds
Your intro hit close to home, I have a California Tiger SVD Dragunov that shows zero signs of being fired. It has no burns or marks on the breech face, no chips from ejecting brass, or scuffs on the feed ramp or chamber. It came to me as never fired outside of the factory and was complete with the mint matching scope, a beautiful leather fitted bag, two mint magazines, original paperwork from the very early 90s, oiling bottle, etc. I also got two big cans of Russian 7.62x54R ammo for it, approximately 400 rounds of range ammo and another of steel core “armor piercing” rounds. This beautiful mint beast has been sitting on my rifle rack since the day I got it 5+ years ago. I would love to shoot it as I hear they are beautiful shooting rifles but I can’t bring myself to devalue it. After all, there are fewer and fewer “unshot” SVDs on the U.S. market and they have steadily appreciated since I got it. While I would love to just buy a second one as a “shooter”, it just doesn’t fit my current budget. Got any suggestions for me?
I'm too poor to have safe queens. My safe queens are firearms like my 10mm s, 458 socom, 357 magnum, etc that are too expensive to shoot right now.
I always enjoy your content, especially the rabbit holes!! Everyone should enjoy ribbing one another as friends do! Keep up the great work.
my dad has my great grandpa's calvary ww1 single action army. its amazing and beautiful, but we still went out and shot it before. it was awesome to shoot something with that history with my dad. I feel the same way about guitars, cars, whatever. a scratch is going to happen now and then. as long as it works it literally doesn't matter
Same with guitars. A brand new Stratocaster with one scuff is horrific and loses it’s value quickly. Drag it down the road behind a truck and it’s now a relic and worth 7 times the price of a new American standard.
I was hoping you would provide insight into which guns are worth keeping on the nightstand, which ones to hide somewhere, which ones should you sleep with, which ones to lock in the trunk, which ones to put in a safe, and which ones to hide at your secret bugout location.
At about 20 minutes into the video, I had to pause it and write this comment. As a mechanic, and a gun owner, I used to keep all my snap-on tools super clean and looking like new for as long as possible. After a while, they would just get a little wipe down to remove any excess grease. Now I more often than not just put em back in the toolbox dirty. But I can guarantee you that even though some of them are over 30 years old from when I bought them brand new, they still function like the day they were made. My edc which is a ruger ec9s has plenty of wear and tear on it, but I would still bet my life on it if the situation ever presents itself. Like one of my former snap-on tools reps had printed on every invoice, 'buy the best and cry only one'. Not saying that the ec9s is the best option for everyone, but it suits me to a t. Being a thin person who concealed carries appendix evry day and has put at least a thousand rounds through this firearm for training purposes, I have no apprehensions in it or myself.
I have literally had people ask if it's OK to store your rifle leaning against something cuz they didn't want it to bend there barrel or frame.......
Tell them no and that you will sell them an invisible force field or something to keep it from leaning on anything.
Yeah, my bedside gun gets broke down, dusted, cleaned, wiped out, tested, dry fired and checked out probably monthly I would say. I do the same thing with back up guns, truck guns and my wife’s carry gun as well. As far as all my other guns, they hardly ever get actually cleaned. Unless I go out and shoot a whole lot, I don’t clean them often. I don’t see the need.
I've seen multiple people bring pump shotguns back to where they purchased them because the magazine tube started getting scratched up. Im like are you foreal. While I do have some rare, collectible, and sentimental guns, I don't have a firearm I won't shoot. Things from a over 100 year old Winchester 94 from my grandfather that was supposedly never fired and i went and took a deer with it. I have a Ithaca ww2 1911 thats in amazing condition. Actually never seen one in better condition. I Still ran a few mags through it just for fun. My fathers 12 gauge over under that was built for him when he was in his teens. Its not worth much but it has 26in barrel instead of the usual 28in on a O/U bird gun which keeps it short and light. Ive carried it many miles hunting and it points and swings amazing. I hope my son carries that gun through a field hunting one day. You can enjoy things and still use them while also taking good care of them. Your only alive once buying things to look at them every once in a while isn't fun. I'm into watches as well and people will buy a fine timepiece and not wear it. I'm like that's what it's for to be worn and enjoyed.
I agree. Firearms were built to be used. Hey if you’re careful even precious, antique and collectible firearms can be used if not abused and never be the worse for wear. If you’ve got an old firearm and it’s actually been fired sometime along the line, use it and enjoy it.
@Tacticool Mustache Nice👍🏻
I have a .22 that has a family history from 1911 that we don’t really shoot but that is more because when we did the chamber was so worn out it split the cases
The closest things I have to a safe queen are my trap shotguns, but they've seen hundreds of thousands of rounds and they DO show wear. I just care for them the best I can while still using the hell out of them!
Love the segment. I had a commemorative Winchester and sold it because it just chapped me that I couldn’t shoot it. Looked great, but if I can’t shoot it I no longer have room for it in my safe. Traded it for a older Winchester lever gun which looks great, but I still take it to the range. It is meant for my enjoyment!
This makes me think of the Fender and Gibson custom shops that produce relics. Knock those things off the stand and don’t even inspect them for damage before you pick it up and put it back. 👍🏻
Funny enough I've seen Gibson have a few of those reliced guitars on there website in the discount, dents and dings page. I'll never understand why lol
Spot on with the cleaning of guns. It became too much of a hassle to take apart, clean, and reassemble each gun just because I put 50 or less rounds through.
Nah. Unless you’re under special situations, or unless you’re in the military, or just bored…
Ain’t no reason. I clean mine once a month. Just strip down my glock and clean it out and check things out.
Then again, I do that for my car aswell lol so, it’s a tool. It’s not gonna implode not being cleaned once after 20 rounds
@@aandyherr817 except when it's a luger and there are 40+ moving parts to clean. That's my safe queen, mostly because of its history. But also because of the complexity of the teardown
Me selling a gun…
Buyer: How many rounds through it?
Me: All of ‘em?
Best Comment award. 👌
Facts
My daily carry literally has the factory finish warn off in some places.
Because it literally is carried every day, all day it gets dust in it. It gets cleaned at least once a quarter just to make sure it will run when it really needs to.
When the gun has more value to you for what it does, rather than for what it is, the gun is a tool.
My only safe queens aren’t really safe queens. They’re retired warriors 😂😂 only guns that stay in the safe and don’t ever leave unless someone wants to see them are the old old guns that were passed down to me. Old shot guns mainly. Old bolt action shot guns, and single shots, old semis and over unders and sidexsides. They’re too old to shoot. They would fire for sure but there’s a chance they’ll fall apart and I would rather just keep them in their current condition.
I admit to having one “safe queen”. My 09’ Ruger SR556. Not that it’s currently a super high dollar collectible. More that based on what I know about it, I think it WILL be. I want it pristine and with all included accessories and manuals for my grandkids! I do take it out and shoot it once or twice a year but I have many, many more that are well used! I have high dollar Colts, BCMs, Spike’s and others that are just “tools”. I just think the Ruger will be a collectible in the future and choose to keep it as like new as possible. If I’m wrong, oh well. Some dependent will just inherit a pristine AR among my other “used” ARs and firearms.
It's not that uncommon that no matter how well you take care of your prized firearm, the next caretaker may not care so much and beat the hell out of it. I know of a case where a fella had a rare firearm in mint unfired condition. He bought it as a kid and he was in his seventies. He began to downsize and instead of willing that gun to his son he just decided to give it to him personally. A short time later his son came over and said dad that gun shoots good. The father said you fired it, I can't believe you fired it. The son said well I thought that's what it was for.
I have an original 1860 civil war issued colt, I have shot it but I don't typically shoot it and as a cap and ball I cleaned it extremely well. Other than that I bought it to shoot it, I don't really do safe queen.
Chad lives! Where has he been?
I miss Barry at moments like these.
In my opinion a “safe queen” is anything with an expensive scope that you’re afraid of knocking to zero off hahaha
Lmao
Anybody that actually carries a firearm every single day knows there’s absolutely no getting around wear and tear on your edc. If you carry your gun like you should, it’s going to get worn a little bit. It’s not going to effect the way it runs or it’s reliability. Even ugly people can love you right 😂😂
I have guns I don’t shoot, because I can’t afford to fix them if they break. That stands until I have enough disposable income to overcome that liability
Unless you put tens of thousands Through your guns I think you’ll be OK to shoot them 😂. You’re the type of guy they’re talking about. Scared you’re gonna break your guns from normal use
I can understand cherishing those rare, beautiful, pieces but they are a tool. Nothing I own stays in the safe.
Police: "Drop the gun!"
Gun owner: "I can't, it's a Sig!"
That's why you don't drop your gun for them.
*H&K
It reminds me a lot of my old Bari Sax. That thing cost more than every gun, optic, and bullet I have ever purchased combined. It’s beat to hell. The end is dented and it’s even had a few last minute repairs with bread ties. But at the end of the day it’s still in tune, works perfectly, and sounds great. Don’t worry about keeping things looking perfect, keep them working perfectly.
Always great content !! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
I like how the slides of handguns are worn from holstering and unholstering plus the cerakote being worn and shows use.
Awesome to see chad again!
Dude was making fun of a gold ak while talking up a meteorite grip or something wtf 😂
I freaking love how anti-authority y'all are :D Every time y'all tell people to do something, y'all qualify it with 'if you want to' or something. I'd hate to be the cop who pulled y'all over
I got some original flint lock safe queens. They might only see daylight on the 4th of July. One day my Ar with numerous coats of paint might be a family heirloom one day and maybe somebody will treat it nicer than me. I got an old single shot 16 gauge that's been my go to deer gun for 25 years. It's a tool.
First ! 😁love the vids
Radman1986 is first.
Lol
To each his own. My Garand I got as a high school graduation present is a safe queen I only shoot on special occasions. My 1800 dollar milled Arsenal AK I throw in the bed of my pick-up then ride down a rough dirt road like I don’t even care.
I ‘m diggin the new cameras guys! Great picture!
I had a friend years ago that had the same approach as Fred. He had a friend that had purchased a nice classic car about a year before. But the guy literally hadn't driven the car once. He would ask him every time he saw him whether he bought the car to actually drive or just to look at it. And every time the guy would tell him he was just so terrified that he was going to park it somewhere and come back to a ding somewhere. After the last time he told my friend this my friend walks slowly back to his car and pulls a hammer out of the trunk and starts walking towards the guys car. The guy frantically asks him what the hell he's doing, and he tells him I'm going to take this hammer and put a big fat dent in the bumper so you don't have to worry about the first dent anymore and you'll actually take this thing out of the garage and drive it.
He didn't actually end up smashing up the bumper, but the guy finally realized how silly he was being and started actually using the car for what it was intended instead of just being a decoration in his garage.
I run WW2 guns in 3 gun competitions. I had someone comment "These guns need to be in a museum not out here getting beat up" I always reply they went through a world war I think they can handle this. I don't purposely beat mine up but a scratch or scuff ain't the end of the world.
I use to have a Winchester M1 Garand and it seemed like every time I took it out to shoot someone makes that comment “you shouldn’t shoot this, it belongs in a museum” lol I sold it for good coin and a betcha it’s sitting in a safe.
@@puZAEdr Yeah none of my rifles are safe queens. Love running my SVT40 in 3 gun. Also just picked up a DTM neutered LMG I want to run 3 gun with that but need a little more arm strength first lol
I take my gun light off to use to find scuffs caused by me taking my gun light off.
This is 100 percent accurate. Most folks worry about the superficial stuff too much at first but then you get over it over time. Same thing with cleaning. They do not need to be cleaned every trip and a fouled bore shoots better than a clean one.
I'm guilty of probably over cleaning after a range session. Half a day at the range and another half a day cleaning. I don't physically clean for a half day, lots of bore solvent soaking.
I`m guilty of that also but that`s half the fun getting to admire your firearm , finish, design and for those that have nice wood oh yeah. Plus it helps you keep familiarized with each firearm.
My car is a tool… I don’t key it and say “it’s a tool”. Also, if you ever want/need to sell a gun, it helps when they’re in good condition.
Like many, I used to baby my guns. Gave up on that a while ago. Now it has dust bunnies and the only thing I keep cleaned on that thing is my optic glass. Great video.
00:29 I think Eric says "down the rabbit hole" in every video lol
In my case, it’s a serious case of OCD. I have to do the buy two scenario.
So much to digest. People, own guns, (and other things), for different reasons.
Here’s a question for you-
If you were given the choice to -
(1) own one gun that you could shoot as please, but you could only have that ONE gun.
OR
(2) have ANY number of guns that you want, any type, but the catch is that you cannot shoot any of them… You can only handle them, disassemble them, clean them, and admire them.
I’ll bet there are more than a few people who would choose the latter. Yes, I love shooting, but I also just love handling tools.
Finally, a real gripe! I need ranting and raving when I listen to a gripe.
I'm very lucky that I don't fall into any "normal " category. If I own something, I will use it. For example, if I hit the luck lotto and someone gave me a 10,000$ Ymir serial number 1 that has never been out of the box, the very first thing I would do is bring it home and run a few hundred rounds of box store brand 230 grain fmjs through it. I want to know that anything that I own is going to work. My life might depend on it someday. Keep up the great work and stay safe and free 👍
If you are a collector/shooter you should get 2 guns. I have a 1953 Izhevsk SKS, unissued, non-refurb that is a safe queen. But I also have a type 56 SKS that I put 1000s of rounds through.
When I was a little kid I remember destroying a lot of stuff I owned and even didn't own. Now that I'm becoming more and more of an adult I rate myself on how well I keep things. So when I find a knock in one of my milsurps I do get a bit of a panic or anxiety. Maybe it's mental for people and they kind of do the same thing. Not to mention how expensive these guns have gotten.
its called "One to rock and one to stock"
Part of my main concerns with buying a collector gun is if I can shoot it. I've turned down alot of interesting guns because they just aren't shootable. The fact that a gun is over 100 years old and still functional and usable is part of my interest in the collector's gun
I’ve been thinking about this since the video. I have 2 safe queens, but I do shoot them both. A S&W model 10 that was my grandpa’s pistol when he was a LEO in the 1950’s. The other is my 30-06 that my other grandpa bought me when I was 16. Out of all the guns I have. Those are the ones I will keep forever and pass down to my son.
I have no safe queens, but I have my collectors that only see range use and I have my workhorses.. my AKs, especially my AK-103, is my go-to gun for everything I need a rifle for.. my carry guns are both well used and carried.. while I don't go out of my way to beat the shit out of them, I'm not worried if they do eventually have a few scars/wears
I love the wear, nicks, and scratches on all my guns; it shows use, purpose, and character. My favorite is a AKM that is totally roached out, it looks like a battle field pick up from Somalia.
The closest thing to a safe queen we have is my grandfather’s nylon 66. It’s so worn and faded and pitted that it looks like a beater and looks like it’s been left outside for 90 years. But it’s got a special place in the back of the safe. Especially since it’s been snapped and repaired
Hit the nail on the head, it Depends, all but 2 of my guns are used regularly and I don’t care if they get wear… but I have two “safe queens” 1 is a original colt single action, when I shoot it it goes from foam box, loaded, fired, stripped, cleaned, back to the box.
Second one was a custom built recreation of a “service rifle” from fallout.
Every other gun I have gets used.
I was trading someone an ak and they backed out just because it had that line from the saftey...... a unavoidable feature
Have also had problems selling/trading any 1911 with the “idiot mark”
Chad, you had a "buddy for life"! 😂 I once had a guy introduce himself as Vern while we were standing at adjacent urinals in a small town bar. He followed me around the bar for 30 minutes until he passed out. My friends refer to Vern as my "buddy for life"!
1:21 it's life liberty and property.... not the persuit of happiness. it was changed to justifty government theft of private property.
Excavator for sale, no longer interested in ownership. Bucket was unfortunately scratched during maiden excavation. Reasonable offers accepted
As a Canadian almost every gun I own is now a safe queen, even the new unused unopened guns I just bought to replace my new safe queens- now safe queens. They ban them faster than I can get new ones.
Poor Chad I feel you
I think ANYONE in the service industry knows exactly what Chad is talking about
Imagine checking someone out at a grocery store and they start telling you about when their dad died
I think a point to consider is how you mentioned, the more guns you have, the less you feel inclined to take care of them unless it’s one of your prized possessions. I feel like to a new gun owner, their first couple guns are their ONLY prized possessions and that’s why they want to take care of it.
Let me also be because the new gun owner can only afford one firearm. Since they will only have that one, they want to make certain that it's in good condition at all times.
I have a browning sa 22 from early 80s( japanese) but it is absolutly immaculate. I small game hunt with it. What sucks is there is now sling mounts. She gonna rust. The one i wanted was the guys personalised one with a engraved squirrel on the stock and a ruby in the grip cap.
This was a VERY good and informative gripe! This series is the best
When I bought my last car I was hoping to keep it looking perfect as long as possible. Three weeks into it some doofus in the lane ahead of me swerved and lost his hubcap, and it busted out my fog light and dinged my bumper. I realized that unless I keep something hermetically sealed and never touch it the thing is going to get banged up one way or the other. Buy it to use or lock it up and pretend you don't have it.
I think it's pretty cool when you message some of these smaller compines about firearms or parts to modify your firearms with questions and you just get the CEO of the company on the phone, same thing when you message your favorite creator and they actually respond to you. It's a good feeling in the way that these people who, for me in many many ways, helped me get into firearms and help me get this knowledge base that I have now, actually SEE me as a person and not just a subscriber. Like if I ever see eric or chad in public I really would just want to walk up to them and thank them for all the enjoyment them and Bary gave me over all these years.
I’ve noticed 1911 owners are more concerned about finish than other firearm owners. It seem like they upgrade their 1911s for aesthetic upgrades opposed to functional upgrades. No offense just an observation.
Loving the new camera setup boys! You all do a real service spreading the truth about firearms. You both have earned my respect.