the game is kinda dead in the water. Even with the update it is routinely getting below 1k concurrent players on steam. I can totally see them releasing a single DLC they have planned, ham-fisting the rest of their planned DLC in it half-baked, and calling it a day.
@@chickenthewolf3552 Announcing ANY dlc has killed any good faith they scrapped back. What was added, outside mana removal, was clearly indented to be a 'first dlc' package.
@@x999uuu1 Definitely. It shows without doubt they have learned nothing. if a 50% stock price drop due to their awful practice wont force them to shape up, they the entire company is on borrowed time.
@@Morlair what they should've learned? That "DLCs are bad"? From what? From IR launch fail? That's not what it says - it says "IR launch version is bad". And they've definetly learned that, because they've made free patches fixing the things, people are complaining about. Also "was clearly indented to be a 'first dlc' package"? "Clearly"? Are you a prophet or what? How the heck the complete overhaul of the several core game mechanics could be the part of the DLC? This is the thing, that Paradox usually do in the free updates. And why the heck you think, that Paradox DLC policy is the bad thing? It helps making game stay alive for many years and constanly improving it, based on a player's feedback. Again, a lot of things are also added in the free updates. CK2 and EU4 are monsters in terms of how deep their game mechanics are. This kind of depth will be impossible without Paradox DLC policy.
The game needed to be more similar to CKII than anything else. When you read about ancient civilizations, especially Rome, the most interesting stories are those about individual actors carving out their piece of the world by the strength of their wills. If this game wants to be impactful it needs to have the player focus on a single character, or dynasty. An example would be starting as a lowly noble, and amassing prestige and power in the Senate or military, just as the great people of Rome had. This way you would have an actual reason to care about loyalty mechanics, trade, and blobbing. TDLR: Drop the the EUIV national perspective and focus on character driven progression.
I'd say more ck3 rather than ck2. Ck2 is a good game and I do like it, but it really gives me a lot of problems between all the succession crises and factions against me among many other things. Ck3 really simplified just about everything and made the game more enjoyable
I really really wanted this game to be good. I like this historical era, and I wish they could do it justice in a Grand Strategy Game. I hope it gets better, and that Paradox doesn't just abandon it.
Same. I have always dreamed of a game which would take place in the Ancient Era and Paradox is the only company out there who can do it well. I was really hyped for this game.
@@datvi8778 I am seriously afraid enough people are shitting on this game, and it's not selling well enough for Paradox to just be like "aight, I'mma head out" and just abandon it entirely. I'm afraid it's going to be another March of the Eagles, or Europa Universalis Rome.
I think its because there is no mission system, no focuses, no intrigues. In a way, it allowed us to build stories, and with no stories, it gets boring and turns into just a map-painter.
@@doomyboi could've at least made the ai much more expansive and bent on committing aggression even as a showing force, just so the world wouldn't be so tame. Not to mention it also reflects on times were back then better
That’s exactly the problem. It’s a era where Rome is supposed to dominate the known world but there doesn’t look like there’s anything that makes in interestingz
@@FirstnameLastname-cw8ok makes you wonder what the staff are up with all that money made from those dlcs huh. My guess is all the funds went to their investors and nothing is left for actual content
Devs remove asking for money in peace treat because the AI was so stupid that save all money during the game and give it to you when you win them a war, breaking the system completly.
I'm pretty sure that if they made the game focus more on politics and characters like in ck2 and less of map painting, it would have been a p good game. More scripted events, a sort of divided empire possibility similar to the late empire, or making the family actually entirely separated like in the Total War games
This game is definitely the black sheep of paradox and paradox doesnt want it anymore, but since 2.0 marius update it's actually really fun. No mana, missions, flavor, etc.
"Is Imperator Rome good yet?" Well, since there isnt a nation for the Goldfish yet, I'd like to argue no, but I understand. You have to at least give the humans a chance to win, right?
I think the best thing Imperator Rome has done is make Paradox reconsider how to make a 3d character based strategy game, which in turn led us to a better CK3 than the one that may have happened if CK3 looked and was like what Imperator is
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I haven't played the game so if I wrong, I'm wrong, but I think whats missing is the rival system. In Eu4, it made it so there was always someone out there around the same strength as you that was permanently trying to destroy your nation if not more than one rival (which is in most cases). This always caused conflict and made it feel like the world was alive besides you as everyone would be trying to take out their enemies or take out people to become strong enough to take out their rivals. Like I said idk if this is in the game or not, but it doesn't seem like it and if it is, it's definitely not the same as the Eu4 system. If they add that in, I feel it would complete the base game experience and make this game on par with the rest of paradox base games.
@@giob5883 at first, it's not just "better" - it's MUCH better, than it was. At second, "no way to make it worse"? Are you sure? At third, the fact, that Paradox actually trying to make the game better, based on a feedback, instead of just ignoring everything or even abandoning the game completely after it failed actually IS a thing, that worth a respect.
@@MrNoobomnenie No, the fact that they are trying to save something which is supposed to make them money is not a thing worth of respect, it's what every company producing any sort of product does. They are only considering feedback because the game failed. They received tons of feedback on what to do/not to do before release in the dev diaries ("hey, don't put mana", "hey, spamming a single button to evolve not-Pops instead of having them grow naturally is asinine"); they instead decided to be snarky to all suggestions, ignored the feedack, ignored the mass of posts which accurately detailed how the interest in the game was waning even before it being released and we got to an end result which saw a fall from 13k players to less than Victoria 2's playerbase in a couple months.
omg im glad you mentioned this,. i looked online everywhere and it seemed no one cared that the devs removed taking money from your foes in a peace deal. I thought that was dumb, where does all the states money go? Heaven?
I think the main problem about conquering in the game is that everyone is just really weak except for 3 or 4 civs, so when you get a little of power it's just rushing all over the place. It's like playing CK2 with the shattered world mod, the moment you form a duchy you are unstoppable.
Good thing they started some fixing. At this rate it might be a good game around 1.19 version, 4 years and 56 dlc later. If they don't break it in the meantime like Stellaris or bloat like EU4.
@@Aaronomus It used to be like that up until pop rework. Even if majority don't consider it buggy garbage worse than the old system that only takes control away from the player, this rework also completely kills already poor performance. I played on large galaxy with max ai and it was mostly fine. Now even on medium with a few bots it is unplayable from the start. It takes a few seconds just to pass 1 day on any speed and stutters very badly even when paused. Worked fine, now almost doesn't work at all, so yes, broken.
You know why it feels slow is that you don't build roads...Moving without roads resaults in a 70% movement penelty...It cost 25 gold to build a road between one province to another i usually build a 5 stack horse army to construct roads across my empire it makes the game alot more fun and makes conquest actually fun!
It took them years to get EUIV where it is today, and that game was fairly solid by comparison when it came out. They might as well start Rome III at this point.
No matter what anyone says, imperator: Rome is my first Paradox strategy game and I am greatful to the Deva for making such an interesting game. As there are fewer mechanics compared to the likes of EU4, this is an excellent starting point plus a noob like me gets to be part of a growing movement. That is awesome in my book!!
I’ve never played IR(More a HOI4 boi), but just wanted to say, good on ya for liking it. No matter how much the Paradox games community hates on IR, you have every right to like it and are in no way wrong for enjoying it for what it is :)
Is that me in the thumbnail?
Bring back Ramblers Comment Corner god dammit
In all seriousness tho your hair isn’t that bad
How do you only have 5 replies
@@PSIgmr ive seen a comment from his with zero likes and zero comments before lol
Habsburg jaw: ❌
Rullianus jaw ✔️
What about the eyes?
A like from the man himself! Treasure this, my friend
@@That_Montage_Nerd I shall my friend, i shall...
iSorrow: "I come in here every five minutes to clean out the bodies!"
me: "BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!"
holy grail gang
Tommy Raviele “I’m not Dead yet!”
@@tannermullins3714 no you are, shut up.
"Is Imperator Rome good yet"
Sir, are you implying the game where I can be a bald 12-year old ruling ancient Sparta wasn't amazing to begin with?!
Fair point
Fair point
That was probably the first thing someone modded into the game.
You can probably do that too in ck2, just remove the ancient part
Nice try paradox
Imperator Rome: Existential Crisis Edition
"we're gonna do mana all the time for now on! We're all for mana"
*removes mana almost entirely next patch*
Rannos22 thank god
Ya just have to admit that you're wrong at a certain point XD
mana worked fine for EU4 but it shouldnt appear again
@Herdan how dare you talk lies about all powerful *ULM* the god of the sun
@Herdan Are these statements related?
"There's been no DLC yet" oh don't give us hope isp
the game is kinda dead in the water. Even with the update it is routinely getting below 1k concurrent players on steam. I can totally see them releasing a single DLC they have planned, ham-fisting the rest of their planned DLC in it half-baked, and calling it a day.
@@chickenthewolf3552 Announcing ANY dlc has killed any good faith they scrapped back. What was added, outside mana removal, was clearly indented to be a 'first dlc' package.
@@Morlair you think it was a bad idea to announce a dlc?
@@x999uuu1 Definitely. It shows without doubt they have learned nothing. if a 50% stock price drop due to their awful practice wont force them to shape up, they the entire company is on borrowed time.
@@Morlair what they should've learned? That "DLCs are bad"? From what? From IR launch fail? That's not what it says - it says "IR launch version is bad". And they've definetly learned that, because they've made free patches fixing the things, people are complaining about.
Also "was clearly indented to be a 'first dlc' package"? "Clearly"? Are you a prophet or what? How the heck the complete overhaul of the several core game mechanics could be the part of the DLC? This is the thing, that Paradox usually do in the free updates.
And why the heck you think, that Paradox DLC policy is the bad thing? It helps making game stay alive for many years and constanly improving it, based on a player's feedback. Again, a lot of things are also added in the free updates. CK2 and EU4 are monsters in terms of how deep their game mechanics are. This kind of depth will be impossible without Paradox DLC policy.
According to Roman mythology the city started only with male population, no wonder their hand power is so high.
Whatever you say, General Gobbledegook
Then they literally stole them with a deception
The game needed to be more similar to CKII than anything else. When you read about ancient civilizations, especially Rome, the most interesting stories are those about individual actors carving out their piece of the world by the strength of their wills. If this game wants to be impactful it needs to have the player focus on a single character, or dynasty. An example would be starting as a lowly noble, and amassing prestige and power in the Senate or military, just as the great people of Rome had. This way you would have an actual reason to care about loyalty mechanics, trade, and blobbing.
TDLR: Drop the the EUIV national perspective and focus on character driven progression.
I'd say more ck3 rather than ck2. Ck2 is a good game and I do like it, but it really gives me a lot of problems between all the succession crises and factions against me among many other things. Ck3 really simplified just about everything and made the game more enjoyable
@Uncumbersome How is he missing the point?
@Uncumbersome And he knows the point he is just adding onto it
@laughingstock3062 You're missing the point too now. Mispointception
I really really wanted this game to be good. I like this historical era, and I wish they could do it justice in a Grand Strategy Game. I hope it gets better, and that Paradox doesn't just abandon it.
Same. I have always dreamed of a game which would take place in the Ancient Era and Paradox is the only company out there who can do it well. I was really hyped for this game.
@@datvi8778 I am seriously afraid enough people are shitting on this game, and it's not selling well enough for Paradox to just be like "aight, I'mma head out" and just abandon it entirely.
I'm afraid it's going to be another March of the Eagles, or Europa Universalis Rome.
I have a feeling this game is better than a lot would leave you to believe. Just check it out when you want a new game.
Iconoclasm_ have you actually played it? I have tons of fun with it
I think its because there is no mission system, no focuses, no intrigues. In a way, it allowed us to build stories, and with no stories, it gets boring and turns into just a map-painter.
And no possibility to roleplay. Why should I invade my neighbour? Why not?
It'd be great if they could find some happy hybrid between CK2's heavy character focus and Stellaris' narratives.
@@doomyboi could've at least made the ai much more expansive and bent on committing aggression even as a showing force, just so the world wouldn't be so tame. Not to mention it also reflects on times were back then better
That’s exactly the problem. It’s a era where Rome is supposed to dominate the known world but there doesn’t look like there’s anything that makes in interestingz
@@FirstnameLastname-cw8ok makes you wonder what the staff are up with all that money made from those dlcs huh. My guess is all the funds went to their investors and nothing is left for actual content
Play coolmathgames. there's been an update.
Its such a good time to play it honestly
Enjoy it before it shuts down.
@@arianas0714 It won't shut down. Most of the games are HTML5.
Play stellaris, there’s been an update
Do you want to kill him?!
stellaris is garbage
@@trasitza2268 i like it a lot personally
That's the no good nephew of paradox
There’s probably been five complete remakes of the damn game at this point since he has last glanced at stellaris
I honestly had forgotten that this game even existed, as ISP said himself. And I did buy it...
Errrr... about Vesuvius, people thought it was a mountain, the tip exploded when it erupted.
Also the land around volcanos is usually very fertile
@Islamist Reactionary إرتجاج الإسلامي because lava contains large amounts of phosphor, calcium and potassium
dario il diario giggity.
to be fair, Vesuvius is still active. And nowdays there is more people living there than ever before
@@v44n7 PIZZA PIZZA They like it Crispy
I love how you call out Paradox on their shit with the pay-walling of seemingly basic features.
Play impeartor Rome it's been updated
Play March of the Eagles there's a new update and it's the best paradox game now!
i was always intrigued but keep forgetting to buy it lol
Hearts of Iron 1 when
Caesar was in government as a priest when he was 16, so not that odd really.
Comment Section: Play Imperator.
ISP: But Guys, my Views!
Comment Section: JUST DO IT!
This game will be so good after I will have to pay 200 dollars for the full game.
It's free for now
@@fakechloe207 wtf
@@adwans1491 it was back then.
Devs remove asking for money in peace treat because the AI was so stupid that save all money during the game and give it to you when you win them a war, breaking the system completly.
I suppose that is one way to fix the issue lol.
Lord Sheogorath definitely easier than just making a better ai
Don't think that's the reason.
@@eleSDSU The devs said it in a older DD, go to read it if you don't belive me.
I'm pretty sure that if they made the game focus more on politics and characters like in ck2 and less of map painting, it would have been a p good game. More scripted events, a sort of divided empire possibility similar to the late empire, or making the family actually entirely separated like in the Total War games
“You could just buy mercenaries willy-nilly”
I mean, the game is about Rome...
My favorite Roman emperor. Defender of Slough
1 year later: "Imperator: Rome is the best game ever created"
No. It's not rome2
@@PAINNN666 Rome: Total war*
@@Speederzzz Coolmathgames*
@@PAINNN666 rude, I'm just a sucker for nostalgia, no need to cuss at me.
@@PAINNN666 rome 2 is so good right now
Imperator Rome: Cicero's Pizza
This game is definitely the black sheep of paradox and paradox doesnt want it anymore, but since 2.0 marius update it's actually really fun. No mana, missions, flavor, etc.
"Look it's BOI! Go get yourselves a BOI T shirt"
Next: Imperator Rome as BOI
We need to see more of our BOI
"Is Imperator Rome good yet?"
Well, since there isnt a nation for the Goldfish yet, I'd like to argue no, but I understand. You have to at least give the humans a chance to win, right?
Is this chef Boyardee's backstory?
Only 3-4 more DLC and the game might actually become fun! Can't wait to spend between 100-200 bucks to find out
as a man who doesnt clickbait and answers right away on the thumbnail, i still had to come and press LIKE. god bless isorrowp
What happened to the boi run in hoi4, artillery only mode, with lootboxes?
1:20
iSorrow: "The eigth of May"
Mötorhead listeners will know.
Let's not forget tencent funds Paradox
I think the best thing Imperator Rome has done is make Paradox reconsider how to make a 3d character based strategy game, which in turn led us to a better CK3 than the one that may have happened if CK3 looked and was like what Imperator is
I’ve been having fun with the update myself, it’s more engaging at the very least. Not waiting around for mana to accumulate half the time.
Isorrow play CK2 there’s been an update
I prefer it when you have these longer periods between uploads but the content is much better
Paradox’s birthday gift to isp: updating imperator rome
What was Hitler's favorite board game?
Naghtzee
12:27 why yes i do buy every paradox game and every dlc how could you tell?
I really appreciated that you went more analytical and gave a really thoughtful explanation of your feelings on the game. I hope you keep it up.
Flavor has never been Paradox's strong suit, it's always the modders that have to inject it in.
Is Imperator Rome good?
Isorrowproductions:you cheeky little munchkin
Edit: Thanks guys
Thanks for the quick answer in the thumbnail so that i don't have to watch the long video.
Me:
*sees the title*
*sees the thumbnail*
*watches the complete video*
*confused screaming*
Publius? I'm getting Flashbacks isorrow
Oh god he doesn't remember
My anxiety levels were rising up until 6:12
Honestly thought I was about to watch an Imperator Rome video without an Alex the Rambler reference
10:07 When Lovecraft uses time travel to mess with Roman History
Caesarreich when? Caesar does not cross the Rubicon but creates a splinter empire in gaul and iberis
Imperator: Rome A R T I L L E R Y O N L Y!!!!
Wait.
Hold on.
What?
Imperator: Rome H E A V Y I N F A N T R Y O N L Y
The thing about the game is the lack of events. Its just bland AF.
Hey isp I hope you day is going well and you are ok in the mental Health department I just want to say you make my day really good and recently I attempted suicide but after I passed out due to the alcohol or blood loss when I woke up I watched your videos to cheer me up and it really helped so thanks and also happy birthday
When was the last time ISP had fun playing a paradox game?
*That kid is a baby and he is already have Alex the rambler hairline*
Defeated two main rivals and still feel empty: IMPERATOR ROME
I was a balding baby too. Sometimes it really do be like that.
When I saw the title, I knew Isorrow was in hell.
*THE RETURN OF THE LEGENDARY NATION **_BOI_** .*
2:46 proves I’m not wrong
Artillery only in Minecraft at 500k. You cannot kill anything until you make a redstone tnt cannon.
Banat: Am I a joke to you?
I haven't played the game so if I wrong, I'm wrong, but I think whats missing is the rival system. In Eu4, it made it so there was always someone out there around the same strength as you that was permanently trying to destroy your nation if not more than one rival (which is in most cases). This always caused conflict and made it feel like the world was alive besides you as everyone would be trying to take out their enemies or take out people to become strong enough to take out their rivals. Like I said idk if this is in the game or not, but it doesn't seem like it and if it is, it's definitely not the same as the Eu4 system. If they add that in, I feel it would complete the base game experience and make this game on par with the rest of paradox base games.
this comment is so wrong on so many levels, really asking myself if you've ever played the game beyond the first 5 minutes lmao
the new mic sounds good
Shortcut of video:
No
There is really no way to make it worse, so "it's better" is no real accomplishment
@@giob5883 at first, it's not just "better" - it's MUCH better, than it was. At second, "no way to make it worse"? Are you sure? At third, the fact, that Paradox actually trying to make the game better, based on a feedback, instead of just ignoring everything or even abandoning the game completely after it failed actually IS a thing, that worth a respect.
@@MrNoobomnenie No, the fact that they are trying to save something which is supposed to make them money is not a thing worth of respect, it's what every company producing any sort of product does.
They are only considering feedback because the game failed. They received tons of feedback on what to do/not to do before release in the dev diaries ("hey, don't put mana", "hey, spamming a single button to evolve not-Pops instead of having them grow naturally is asinine"); they instead decided to be snarky to all suggestions, ignored the feedack, ignored the mass of posts which accurately detailed how the interest in the game was waning even before it being released and we got to an end result which saw a fall from 13k players to less than Victoria 2's playerbase in a couple months.
Happy Birthday Isorrow!!
10:33 the influence of the Bogdanoffs can be felt as early as the Roman republic apparently
When Alex and ISP have the same topic in the same day
Nani?!
There is still no fucking chat in multiplayer.
omg im glad you mentioned this,. i looked online everywhere and it seemed no one cared that the devs removed taking money from your foes in a peace deal. I thought that was dumb, where does all the states money go? Heaven?
Jones barbeque and haircut services comin' at ya live from the shadow realm.
I think it’s the time period, once you are the strongest nothing can really stop you
I think the main problem about conquering in the game is that everyone is just really weak except for 3 or 4 civs, so when you get a little of power it's just rushing all over the place. It's like playing CK2 with the shattered world mod, the moment you form a duchy you are unstoppable.
you should play knights of the old republic.
Awesome game
Good thing they started some fixing. At this rate it might be a good game around 1.19 version, 4 years and 56 dlc later. If they don't break it in the meantime like Stellaris or bloat like EU4.
@@Aaronomus It used to be like that up until pop rework. Even if majority don't consider it buggy garbage worse than the old system that only takes control away from the player, this rework also completely kills already poor performance. I played on large galaxy with max ai and it was mostly fine. Now even on medium with a few bots it is unplayable from the start. It takes a few seconds just to pass 1 day on any speed and stutters very badly even when paused. Worked fine, now almost doesn't work at all, so yes, broken.
Did... did you just call me a "Gravy Baby"?
Had such a shitty week so far (ITS ONLY TUESDAY) Was so happy I involuntarily made happy noises, Thanks iSorrowproductions
That's the think isorrow no one could stop the Roman empire it stopped itself by exploding
Mercenaries needing military experience is rather weird
8:30 good to see the Senate approve of imprisoning two year olds
*Alex makes video about Imperator Rome being better*
*ISP*: Your not the only one cursed with knowladge
"It's an empty game"
Couldn't have said it better myself
Would you douse drew in a bucket of beans?
Legitimately thank you for telling me right in the the thumbnail
Wow this could be the best strategy game of 2021 at this rate
Can you play March of the eagles again? There wasn't an update
1:54 didn’t know paradox had Alex the Ramblers baby pictures
You know why it feels slow is that you don't build roads...Moving without roads resaults in a 70% movement penelty...It cost 25 gold to build a road between one province to another i usually build a 5 stack horse army to construct roads across my empire it makes the game alot more fun and makes conquest actually fun!
Every Paradox game is a puzzle but every piece costs money and they're sold separately
I genuinely forgot this existed
Ah yes October that time of the year when ISP plays dead games on his channel. Can't wait to see him dredge up EU4, Vicky and Hoi4
This game should have been a "Paradox age of mythology"
Change my mind
geez ISP you answered the question in the thumbnail you need some pointers on keeping viewers hooked up
😆😂
Happy birthday Isp
For me I like that the game isn't too intense because like EU4 and CK2 I can just watch something on my other screen.
It took them years to get EUIV where it is today, and that game was fairly solid by comparison when it came out. They might as well start Rome III at this point.
Uhhh question? Wasn't the Roman Empire slowly collapsing by 450? Not being formed? Or am I misunderstanding something here
It means 450 years from the foundation of Rome
The big thing that is sucking all the tension out of this game for me is the lack of uniqueness of any nation.
No matter what anyone says, imperator: Rome is my first Paradox strategy game and I am greatful to the Deva for making such an interesting game. As there are fewer mechanics compared to the likes of EU4, this is an excellent starting point plus a noob like me gets to be part of a growing movement. That is awesome in my book!!
I’ve never played IR(More a HOI4 boi), but just wanted to say, good on ya for liking it. No matter how much the Paradox games community hates on IR, you have every right to like it and are in no way wrong for enjoying it for what it is :)