Great news for current TD50 owners... the upgrade apparently will be about $199... for extra features and sounds, I wouldn't have an issue with that. Your move Pearl/Slate
I was thinking about my next step on from the TD30 and very nearly purchased the TD 50 digital upgrade pack..... I'm so glad I didn't! My journey has been td20kv, td30kvx, and will almost certainly be a VAD706 next... Sure I agree it's an extortionate amount of money, but it's been so long since I played an acoustic kit that I'm committed to the digital route until I retire from drumming. I think it's time to sell my trusty pearl masters and zildjians. Thanks as always for your reviews I really trust your comments. A real genuine drummers, drummer.... But in the digital world!
I had an email notification from Roland about the new TD-50X yesterday and Luke, you're bang on it already. I really like your work and will be grabbing some additional sounds from your website for my TD-50 this weekend. Stay safe ✌
I'm really liking the new sounds and presets in the TD-50X, I'm really hoping for a similar update to the TD-27. That would also make me more confident in adding the new digital hi-hat to my kit!
I hope so too and I hope Mr. Workshop can show us if it is worth it for us 27 users. I love the 27 as it was just in the right place for me price wise and sound wise. I would hate to feel like I should have just waited a little bit longer but the TD-50's are just a bit out of my range. I would like to stay married after all XD
@@ny020 I am wondering if the digital hats are worth it one the 27 though, as you aren't getting the HH articulations for the 50X. Shame they couldn't have chucked those in just for the HH.
@@MrMurUK That is my concern as well. Which is a shame. Perhaps there is an improvement even if it isn't as much as the 50x. I figure if they are giving you digital pad options on the 27 then they will support it in some way hopefully. We shall see!
@@ny020 Same thought! I am about to buy a Td27 Kit in the next couple weeks! Just have to sell my TD12KV off first... Its just always that anxious move to drop 3K on eDrums and then the thought to it "Should i wait longer and buy a more recent kit" xD But thats with everything in the tech world. I guess the TD27 with dig snare and ride is going to be worth it still, right? 2020 release
Very happy you hear you will be developing your kits for the new TD-50X update because they will not transfer over. That is excellent customer service. I’m very excited for the digital hihats. Can’t wait to try them out. Definitely going to be getting td-27 soon now and eventually get all of the digital products. So many people complaining about the price of the top of the line 706 VAD kits. They expect Roland to price its newest technology like it’s an Alesis strike SE. I love the natural finish of the 706. Looks similar to the drum-tec kit. It’s nice TD-50 owners can get new sounds and features to refresh their module and breathe some new life into them.
A few e-drummers are complaining about the price and time it took to release these new products but the cost of R&D let alone ramping up for production had to have been a significant investment in money and time. I really don't think they were holding back on most of it. As evidenced by the extra usb port I think it was all preplanned when they designed the original TD-50. And also I think you're right about the flagship models being a boutique product for status and for drummers with major touring/recording acts. But I have to say making these new features upgradable and available to existing Roland customers with a big investment in their products is a really big deal for people like me. They aren't just throwing us a bone. These are significant updates. Best of all my TD-50 is not out of date yet. I was worried I'd have to try and sell it in a crowded market as all of us scrambled to keep up. Hopefully Roland continues to milk the TD-50 line for all it's worth and we get another few years out of it before a new flagship module is released. I would if I were them. Thanks for letting us know you were going to work on making your kits compatible with the new upgrades Luke. I would really hate to lose them.
Great update! And a great overview. It's kind of a head-scratcher why they announced the new kits, yet the upgrade isn't posted on Cloud yet for download. Can't wait!
I heard it may only be a few weeks, but my initial impression was that it'll probably be available when the kits with the new module begin shipping. Recently, they typically do an announcement, then the kits become available a month or so later. At least, that was the case with the 27/VAD kits and the TD-07!
"Like a gigantic Geek" haha I love nerding out on this stuff too, and wish I had your understanding of all the nuances. Great take on all this! I agree and will be updating my Module as well going for digital Hi hats. The module update just seems too good not to do. Some of this reminds me of the last video game console generation where both Sony and Xbox had mid generation upgrades for 4k capabilities. As you know I have quite a bit of your kits and recommend them quite a bit so have to say Total class act on your part to commiting to help us get them back. Have to imagine this is a bit of monkey wrench as it looks like you were going to put out a new pack for the 50. I was actually going to message you about maybe a pack or glimpse of what your personal favorite kits are that you use most often. Thanks again and look forward to seeing what kind of wizardry you can do with the TD-50x.
I was so excited for the VH14D that I preordered one right away BUT it never occured to me that the sounds wouldn't support the positional sensing until you said something. My td27 is less than a month old. Should I return/sell it and get a TD50 and the upgrade or wait and see if they release new sounds for the TD27? Cheers
Sweetwater’s site says it’s compatible with the TD-27 module (I got worried, I have the same one!) so I’m assuming they know an update is coming down the pipeline!
The TD-27 is still basically a new module. I can't imagine they'd stick a third USB input in the back knowing the VH-14D was in the works, and then not bother to actually fully support it. That would be an incredibly crappy thing for them to do.
@@lapin-rouge I really don’t think they’re going to hook up the td27 crowd. Without the sound upgrade it will likely function better than a VH-13 but sound the same.
@@leo.funkleta that does not include sounds which will allow you to hear the more subtle changes as you move towards the bell or towards the edge. Nor will it include the more nuanced articulations between open to close or close to open. It will be more like a “VH-13 plus”
I have been lucky enough to play all the new products and am currently using the new TD50X firmware on both my TD50 modules. You definitely can’t use any previous custom kits but can load previous samples. The VAD706 shells are all 8 ply maple. The new hats are absolutely awesome and are well worth the $$$.
@fartpoobox ohyeah I have one in my studio/practice space and one for gigs. I gig it a few times a week so don’t want to be pulling my upstairs kit apart all the time.
hey Brad, did the new hats have a bell sensor or playable bell? Luke's comment about their positional sensing maybe negating the need for a bell sensor got me wondering. I've been waiting with bated breath for these, but if the bell isn't playable, I'm not sure it's worth the huge dollar jump for me. I have a TD27 and trigger VST's.
@@CullenCorley hi mate. The Bell area is playable but does not give a bell sound if that is what you are looking for. They do play incredible. I have spent the afternoon playing them today.
@@bradroulston5729 hey Brad, thanks a lot for the reply. do you know by any chance, if you plug this into a computer program with bell sounds, will the bell be picked up as a bell? maybe the TD-50(x) just doesn't have hihat bell sounds to be triggered, I'm not sure about that though. but in Superior Drummer, for example, they specifically sampled the hihat bell as well, so I'm just wondering if that'll translate to a VST...
Hi Luke and thanks a lot for the video! just a question, do you think the td-27 is gonna get all the nuances from the vh-14d? or is something that just the td-50 is gonna do?
With the firmware update, the 27 and regular TD-50 will just be a supported pad with the same functionality as an analog pad, but also with the touch choking, as far as I'm aware. The full positional sensing support is only on the 50X with the new sounds, according to Roland's information on it. Thanks for watching!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Hey Luke, theoretically, if we bypass the onboard sounds in our TD27's and trigger VST's like SD3 with lots of hihat samples, the positional sensing should translate for us too, right?
I wonder if the old VAD drums will go down in price a bit, I would totally want to upgrade my kit step by step with them and with the td27 when i gather enough moneyrinios in my bad bad country
Thanks, great video as always. I agree that the software upgrade from TD-50 to 50X is worth it, priced in-line with what we can expect. Knowing the on-board library is going to increase, I am going to proceed with the software upgrade when it is available.
I knew you would have an update!! Thanks for that. I love the new VAD706, but I have the TD-50 upgrade kit, so I have the module, the digital ride and the digital snare (massively better then my TD-20 gear). I also have stands and cymbals. So, I just want to buy the bass drum and three toms - in the Cherry - I think that is beautiful. Fingers crossed that Roland will sell them that way. I do have kits from you and VExpressions, so definitely holding off on the upgrade until you guys have a path to save those kits. As far as the digital hi-hat, at $900 USD it is definitely not an impulse buy, but I am seriously considering it.
Really glad you got this video out so quickly after launch. As a Mimic owner, I will be very interested to see what your thoughts are on the 'acoustic' quality of the new sounds and the new stock kits. Agree the 706 kits look pucker but very pricey!!!! Roland Cloud is an interesting idea a la ATV!!!! Have thought for a while that Pearl need to provide an online store to purchase new sounds or kits.......what will they do?????
it look like, one shot sample and preset kit for clouds system, not internal sound on TD-50 memory max reached with the 199$ update. Honestly, td-50 was empty, there was about 4 acoustic kit only, I would say this update make it as "finished" td-50 product.
I have the TD-50kv2 and it’s amazing!!! The digital Hi-Hat is as equally amazing!!! Originally tried the Alesis Strike Pro SE, it was horrible and the 20” acoustic kick doesn’t line up and work with Trick pedals unless you get a kick drum rise or rack to raise it. The 18” kick from Roland is set up to accompany all pedals and works beautifully although it is the loudest part of the kit. Overall I couldn’t be happier with the 50kv2. I also got 2 of the thinner 14” crash which work amazing as well!!!
Thanks for your insights. I will likely upgrade my module but am questioning whether $899 for the digital hi-hats is worth it. I'll wait for you to review them 😊
Really excited about the TD-50x firmware update, but I am skeptical about the positional sensing on PDA pad heads. The Data List document of the new module doesn't reflect the statement from their video.
Just when i though i had made up my mind and was gonna get the VAD506! I think im still going with the 506 and get the hi hat later on. Decisions, decisions...
I’ve had mine for about a month and feel this.. I think I’m just going to buy the hats and keep everything else! My silver lining is that Sweetwater got me a hell of a deal and was able to sneak in the noise eater hat stand and double pedal for no extra cost, I guess, though
Already seeing the "why not just buy a real kit for that price" and "OMG the machine gunning on the snares and toms is unbearable." Those that actually own the module have to laugh at the machine gunning comments since we know it's virtually impossible unless relying heavily on a single shot sample and no way Roland is doing that on the preset kits. Goes to show there will be no pleasing the Roland haters and Anti Edrum Crowd altogether.
I'm insanely hyped about this. Just last week I was looking at the td50kv and was liking it, but was feeling it was missing some stuff, especially compared to the newer td27. Then this dropped today, and I'm like "alright td-20, you're finally gonna get replaced old friend". Did you hear if the x has Bluetooth? Great video man!!!
Seems odd that Roland has dropped the price of the TD50 to $1800 and sells the new one for $2400. Why not just buy the old one and upgrade for $200. Also DP is $2400 now comes with digital snare and ride...Love your content!
Simple - they are clearing out current manufactured stock. Once the legacy modules that are sitting in warehouses are gone, so will this reduced pricing. If your in the market, now is the time to buy.
Did the above, the best deal going. My VH-14Ds are on order. Who knows if Roland will ever make another upgrade pack including the previous 3 items + the hihats, I doubt it will ever beat that deal.
Why does an ebass drum need to be deeper? Just wasted space. Agree about including the stands. Do you think the next flagship will be totally digital including toms and bass drum?
Yeah, I don't really see the need for 22x18. I think it looks nice, but unnecessary and it wouldn't look wrong with a shallower kick, or even a 20"/18" shell. Some people have said it's out of proportion but my acoustic kit has shallow toms and a 22x20 kick, so I don't really agree about that side of it.
Nice video Luke. As I mentioned on FB today, looking forward to new packs. My biggest concern would be losing the ones I’ve already bought from you. Save for a few custom snares, explosions and bass drops, I mostly use your kits live in my band. (edw house kit mostly!) It would be a big risk to wipe them with the upgrade! Interested to see how we proceed from here. I won’t be upgrading regardless until you push out packs. I’ve never liked anything anyone had produced until now. Including mine! I’m nowhere near your level at programming this beast. 👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Thanks for the kind words Geoff, glad you like the kits I make! You might have seen that the new kits are now available and are much closer to The eDW House Kit than anything else I've done (and the floor toms have improved since this video as I finally recorded the 18" Yamaha floor tom). As for losing the kits - they're currently not compatible with the 50X, but I will be sending out updated files for free when I have the 50X upgrade and have had time to make them. Just released a video explaining how it will work, hope it allays your fears!
WHAT? you like white drum shells? i awalys thought that solid colours look the you know "most entry level" like, the natural color is a banger not gonna lie.
For those upgrading their existing TD-50....I was under the impression (via a you tube video from another user) that the SD card could be utilised for saving everything in the module before upgrading to X, so you don’t “lose” anything, you just lose the ability to access your old kits and sounds without doing an SD card upload...hmmm...love the idea of more sounds...I programmed a lot of tuned sounds in my TD-9, bells, timpani’s, entire kits of all sorts of pitched sounds, each kit tuned to a particular chord, successive kits related to the one before it, e.g. C. Am. F. Dm. G. Em. blah blah blah. There was no way I have been able to do that on my TD-50 with its extremely limited choice of sounds. Maybe now....
I have the 50x upgrade, it should have been this way from the beginning (I Miss the Melodies kit), however I am very happy with it SoI purchased another 50 and doing the upgrade so i can have a back up. The upgrade fee is reasonable considering, what they want and still get for the old expansion card on the older flagship models.
Backup TD-50! That's a heavy duty failsafe you're going with! Glad you think the upgrade is worth it. I've only just managed to upgrade and the presets are definitely much nicer out of the box but I've only listened through MIDI so will have to wait until I get back in the studio to see how the playability is.
Do you mean the new hi-hat? There's been an update for the TD-27 that adds VH-14D compatibility, but it won't be the same as the TD-50X. The 50X has new sounds which accommodate the positional sensing and extra open/close transitions (according to Roland). The TD-27 update doesn't contain new sounds, so you won't get that functionality. So, it will work, but it will work more like a slightly better VH-13, I think (though I haven't tested one myself).
I’m really looking forward to seeing video reviews on the upgrades and especially the new digital hihats. Before I shell out more than $1100 US dollars. I’d also need a computer upgrade in order to download the upgrades. Ha! At that point should I just buy the new module?? Lol
it's a wav player not a synth though so you wouldn't get any added expression benefits. You can already put an RT-30HR on a mesh head on an acoustic 14" snare and use it with the SPD-SX right now?
Very bad news about the TD-50 kits not being portable to the TD-50X. I've personally spent a lot of time and a fair bit of cash on third party kits to make the TD-50 usable. It really wasn't any good out of the box. So far the new Roland sounds do not justify the upgrade and the loss of my precious kits. The launch video made it sound like you could upgrade the TD-50 to take the new digital hi-hat, but not upgrade all the sounds. Is that how you understood it Luke? That's my current thinking....upgrade the hats and take view on the full upgrade once I've tested the sounds.....or you have! :-)
Yeah, that's correct about the update. There's a new software update for the original TD-50 (v1.08) already available that adds support for the VH-14D, but the dinner m functionality of it will be basically the same as any other hi-hat pad (no positional sensing/new articulations, no extra resolution between open/closed, no new sounds), except the touch muting will still work as that's basically just MIDI aftertouch.
I think I might have seen the same post and I think he was referencing that you can import that same samples, but you'd need to remake the parameters (ie. the bulk of the preset). Might be wrong, though!
I believe it does support a double pedal, yes, but depending on the spacing of your beaters it can be a little tight. I've not tried one myself but I've seen a few people talking about it and saying that getting the positioning right is the main thing and then it usually works well.
Hi nice video , so this hi hat will not work properly in the td 27? I mean it works but not with the full functionality ? , I want to sell my td 25kv and upgrade to the 27 or the 50 but I will like to have this new hi hat but if it does not work right with the 27 I have to buy the 50x then ? thanks
Yeah, it will work but it can't utilise all of the features. The sounds in the TD-27 won't react to the positional sensing and apparently there are optimised open/close transitions for it on the 50X which aren't in the 27. Though I haven't used them myself to verify exactly what differences you can notice when playing.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks for the fast response Luke , so do you think in the future that issue in the 27 can be fix in an upgrade of the firmware or it is not posible, I think if they add an 3rd digital input , they would have in mind the release of the digital hi hat or I am wrong ? and in the 27 that can not be fix
I suppose they could make a "27X" style upgrade that allows for improved sounds that support the digital hats better, but I guess it depends whether they think that's a viable option for their mid-tier module. I've no idea whether that fits in with their plans - they might prefer to keep it how things are so that there's more distinction between the products.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop ok thanks again for the fast response , like I told you I want to upgrade my td-25kv for the 27 or 50 it is a huge difference price in the modules but if the 27 can handle pretty well the new digital Hi hat , I will go for it, can you make a video of the comparison with the 14digital hi hat with both modules to hear the difference , that will be very helpfull, I live in Uruguay no change here to test any of this products and also imposible to buy it here , have to buy in USA and bring it with someone , I am watchin right now your video of the 27 customs bonham kit
Unfortunately I don't own a VH-14D so I can't do a video about it right now, but a friend has one so hopefully I can borrow it at some point to make such a video. No idea when that would be though so can't make any promises. Sorry about that - I don't have access to everything, just what I can afford!
After trying the aD ATV14 Hats with optical sensor, I reckon I am not looking back to anything without this precise, light sensor. Digital or analog, controller sensor indeed matters for open-to-close transition accuracy.
Thanks for posting this video so soon after the announcement. I’m watching all of this trippin because I just bought the VAD506 two months ago and was on the fence with getting the 50 module. I’m glad I got what I got but knowing that the new digital high hat can be used with my 27 module without the new sounds kinda blows. They want $900USD just to make it digital. Question is, is it even worth the purchase without the new sounds? I’m hoping to see a video showcasing any reason to upgrade to the digital hat on the td27.
out of all of them, the KV2 looks the coolest to me. I think the 706 kick is too big and looks out of proportion with the rest of the kit. 20x14 would have looked much cooler.
Something tells me we won't see this HH for a while, the new thin cymbals took so long to become available but you never know. As a whole it's a nice jump from the TD20/30 but took so long to get to this point as Roland just adds one thing to a new kit until it's fully updated...not to cannibalize it's self of course. But it feels like the TD50 should have been this but looks like it took drum-tec and ATV and maybe Pearl to finally get Roland to move in the A2E direction and expand their sounds, wonder what the TD60 will be? Yeah it looks good but holy shit that's a lot of dough...but it's for those rich people who will play it twice a month lol Building your own is definitely a much cheaper option and just going with Roland cymbals/TD27 module. That's the route I took after my last Roland kit. But I HOPE the digital HH is actually better in HHC department for playing more of the open/closed stuff...Also hope the sounds are good this time.
Hey man, Interesting point! What would you do with about 3k budget max! I am about to get the TD27 kit (upgrading from my good old TD12KV)! Should i go for something else? I never thought about the special ATV, Gewa, drumtec setups because firstly its expensive and secondly often too much of a hassle than just getting the regular td27. What would you recommend?
@@prod_adrian I'm not much of a budget guy as my kit is a 7pc no compromise, all latest Roland cymbals w/TD50 running SD3...to build a A2E is not hard but you do have to do a bunch of research and then carry out the work and miscalculations can be made and you might have to trouble shoot, mine all went smoothly... If you could stretch your budget to a VAD506, that will give you a TD27, the 2 new thinner cymbals and 2 Digital pads (with a 3rd open for a future VH14D) which are so great and will be a huge upgrade and the acoustic look and presence/size is amazing and will last you for years. And it will all be set up out of the box. Or you could drop to the VAD 503 and lose a tom and cymbal but will limit your kit. Or again you could go thru making your own shells (with a HW bundle and more shells on any color as long as the kit isn't too awkward for rigger installation), getting a TD27 Digital Pack, HH/Cymbals you want to complete the setup. ATV cymbals are okay but they don't cost any less and aren't as nice imho. Rdrums for triggers or just cones and make your own metal base/brackets with 1 or 3 cones per shell and drum-tec for heads. I did mine before the VAD line/TD27 so I was able to dump the money into cymbals and modules to experiment. Now with the VAD kits...it's a pretty good deal tbh and the one I'd recommend lol
@@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage Hey man. sorry for the late reply, was pretty busy! Thanks for that indepth text of yours though! So... im in a city flat so the big acoustic-ish shells dont really work anyway. Building my own set is also pretty risky for the cost, i mean its a nice project, but i dont think i would be able to handle that financial risk mentally with the poor attempt of craftmanship haha... I mean even making my own kit would be like at least 2-3K right? I would definitely say i play on intermediate level so i have standards, but the TD27 seems like a pretty great upgrade from my TD12 already. Only the newer kid pads i dont like, they should have just reworked the KD85 imo!
@@prod_adrian Sure thing, that's why edrums are so great there's so much choice and some still prefer the compact aspect of it and VAD might not suit everyone. TD27 would be a big upgrade in the sound department/editing and future upgrades. But it will be worth picking up a TD27 Digital pack for sure. It will look outta place with the other smaller pads but that ride and snare are amazing. I'm getting the digital HH as soon as it's in stock...don't do pre orders.
@@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage Oh yeah, i would most definitely grab the TD27 version with the two digital pads, to be honest, never even knew that there was a lower budget version of the kit without them! About the digital HH i have to see though. A lot of people claim that the potential is only half reached without the functions made for the reworked td50X, so yeah lets see about it being worth it. The touch on the ride and snare were amazing though, i was able to try them out at a local store. Super stoked about the TD27, cant wait to upgrade from my old 12! The new smaller kickpad on the td27 is my only fear... I am also getting the Drumtec Expansion kits. Can you recommend some more realistic sounding ones? I dont want to use SuperiorDrummer for recording purposes if possible.
The digital pads have extra circuitry and components inside them that allow additonal functions and do some "pre-processing" of the signal, sending out a MIDI signal. They use a USB cable (a digital connection) to interface with the module rather than a jack cable (an analog connection). The analog cymbals are effectively just sending a sound wave down the cable whereas the digital ones are sending more data.
Actually best of all is I no longer have to listen to some e-drummers bragging about how their TD-30's cost a quarter as much but have a much larger and better sounding assortment of kits and sounds than the TD-50. 😹 Just teasing!
@@jezusmylord If it's perfect for you it's cool then but it just wasn't for me. Will receive my VH14D in june and tell you then what i think of it. Good tests right of the bat will be to play the bridge in April Wine's I Like To Rock and play the bell in the last verse of Aerosmith's Sweet Emotion. I play 15'' acoustics so going to 12'' electronics was also something that just wasn't working.
@@alancarver2511 i didnt play acustic in 10 years or so i dont have that comparision in my head anymore but not gonna lie the vh11 i have is a bit smol.
Ah yeah - now that we're no longer in the old trade agreements, that's without VAT. That'll be applied when it crosses the boarder, plus possibly duty and courier fees for dealing with it. With that VAT, it'd be £6532, then the other costs on top will probably bring it in line with UK prices :(
I wouldn't buy an expensive bass that didn't come with tuners, pickups. and a bridge. i would expect that premium cost to give me everything I need to play it.
It doesn't work that way with good drum kits, except occasionally the snare stand. The bass pedal (or double bass) and hi-hat stand/pedal are very personal choices. You can't expect everyone to want iron cobras, for example. It would be like expecting a nice guitar to come with a strap and amp. That only happens on cheapo guitar "combos" for beginners. I personally would likely hate whatever pedals they included, I'd put 'em on ebay. Selecting the perfect bass pedal for you and your style is the hardest and most personal decision a drummer has to make. I spent hours and hours trying them out before landing on a limited edition direct drive setup. Roland is smart by not including them, that would be awful.
@@RADERFPV Understandable for the $1800-$2500 kits.Maybe. If i'm paying $5K to $8K for a kit, put the DW 5000 in there etc. If I'm that picky I'll sell it and put the money toward my special pedal.
I dont own a boat. I dont own a motorcycle. I dont have a RV, huge tv, or take expensive vacations. Ya....its worth it. Ordered my HH today
Damn right!
Ya. No one cares
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Great news for current TD50 owners... the upgrade apparently will be about $199... for extra features and sounds, I wouldn't have an issue with that.
Your move Pearl/Slate
Awesome to hear your feedback mate. Exciting times! Glad my 3 month old td50 isn’t being replaced and can be upgraded. The hats look superb 👌
I was thinking about my next step on from the TD30 and very nearly purchased the TD 50 digital upgrade pack..... I'm so glad I didn't! My journey has been td20kv, td30kvx, and will almost certainly be a VAD706 next... Sure I agree it's an extortionate amount of money, but it's been so long since I played an acoustic kit that I'm committed to the digital route until I retire from drumming. I think it's time to sell my trusty pearl masters and zildjians.
Thanks as always for your reviews I really trust your comments. A real genuine drummers, drummer.... But in the digital world!
Thanks for the kind words and glad you've found the videos useful! Hope you enjoy the 706 when you get one!
I had an email notification from Roland about the new TD-50X yesterday and Luke, you're bang on it already. I really like your work and will be grabbing some additional sounds from your website for my TD-50 this weekend.
Stay safe ✌
Thanks for the info! Ordered a new VH14D yesterday and I'll be upgrading my TD50K 👍 now just got to wait...
I'm really liking the new sounds and presets in the TD-50X, I'm really hoping for a similar update to the TD-27. That would also make me more confident in adding the new digital hi-hat to my kit!
I think they will. I can see them bringing out a TD-27KV2 with VH-14D and KD-140. Maybe even an upgrade for the module, would be nice.
I hope so too and I hope Mr. Workshop can show us if it is worth it for us 27 users. I love the 27 as it was just in the right place for me price wise and sound wise. I would hate to feel like I should have just waited a little bit longer but the TD-50's are just a bit out of my range. I would like to stay married after all XD
@@ny020 I am wondering if the digital hats are worth it one the 27 though, as you aren't getting the HH articulations for the 50X. Shame they couldn't have chucked those in just for the HH.
@@MrMurUK That is my concern as well. Which is a shame. Perhaps there is an improvement even if it isn't as much as the 50x. I figure if they are giving you digital pad options on the 27 then they will support it in some way hopefully. We shall see!
@@ny020 Same thought! I am about to buy a Td27 Kit in the next couple weeks! Just have to sell my TD12KV off first...
Its just always that anxious move to drop 3K on eDrums and then the thought to it "Should i wait longer and buy a more recent kit" xD
But thats with everything in the tech world.
I guess the TD27 with dig snare and ride is going to be worth it still, right? 2020 release
Very happy you hear you will be developing your kits for the new TD-50X update because they will not transfer over. That is excellent customer service. I’m very excited for the digital hihats. Can’t wait to try them out. Definitely going to be getting td-27 soon now and eventually get all of the digital products. So many people complaining about the price of the top of the line 706 VAD kits. They expect Roland to price its newest technology like it’s an Alesis strike SE. I love the natural finish of the 706. Looks similar to the drum-tec kit. It’s nice TD-50 owners can get new sounds and features to refresh their module and breathe some new life into them.
A few e-drummers are complaining about the price and time it took to release these new products but the cost of R&D let alone ramping up for production had to have been a significant investment in money and time. I really don't think they were holding back on most of it. As evidenced by the extra usb port I think it was all preplanned when they designed the original TD-50. And also I think you're right about the flagship models being a boutique product for status and for drummers with major touring/recording acts. But I have to say making these new features upgradable and available to existing Roland customers with a big investment in their products is a really big deal for people like me. They aren't just throwing us a bone. These are significant updates. Best of all my TD-50 is not out of date yet. I was worried I'd have to try and sell it in a crowded market as all of us scrambled to keep up. Hopefully Roland continues to milk the TD-50 line for all it's worth and we get another few years out of it before a new flagship module is released. I would if I were them.
Thanks for letting us know you were going to work on making your kits compatible with the new upgrades Luke. I would really hate to lose them.
Older pads hold so much value that it’s easier to sell off pads and modules to help pay for the upgrade. Been doing this from my TD3 up to my 50.
Great update! And a great overview. It's kind of a head-scratcher why they announced the new kits, yet the upgrade isn't posted on Cloud yet for download. Can't wait!
Everything is preorder at this point and probably won't be shipping out until late May or June. Should see it on Cloud around then is my guess.
I heard it may only be a few weeks, but my initial impression was that it'll probably be available when the kits with the new module begin shipping. Recently, they typically do an announcement, then the kits become available a month or so later. At least, that was the case with the 27/VAD kits and the TD-07!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I get that, but what about us current TD50 owners? I'd like it now!! I'll add the hats to my kit when available.
Great video as usual, Luke! This is as informative as it can get. Thank you very much! :-)
"Like a gigantic Geek" haha I love nerding out on this stuff too, and wish I had your understanding of all the nuances. Great take on all this! I agree and will be updating my Module as well going for digital Hi hats. The module update just seems too good not to do. Some of this reminds me of the last video game console generation where both Sony and Xbox had mid generation upgrades for 4k capabilities. As you know I have quite a bit of your kits and recommend them quite a bit so have to say Total class act on your part to commiting to help us get them back. Have to imagine this is a bit of monkey wrench as it looks like you were going to put out a new pack for the 50. I was actually going to message you about maybe a pack or glimpse of what your personal favorite kits are that you use most often. Thanks again and look forward to seeing what kind of wizardry you can do with the TD-50x.
Looking to upgrade my td30 module to a 50... so now, am kinda wanting the X as it's mainly for recording... that hi-hat is looking nifty
Great review & greetings from NZ. Have Roland enabled the ambience to be available via the Direct outputs on the X version?
you can route RM, MFX 1,2,3 and OH out the directs if you wish in the SETUP-OUTPUT-F2 (Direct) page
I like how we say "old VAD series" when they're not that old. The world of eDrums moves quickly.
@fartpoobox ohyeah the td50 is awful, I'm surprised more people don't buy the ad5
I was so excited for the VH14D that I preordered one right away BUT it never occured to me that the sounds wouldn't support the positional sensing until you said something. My td27 is less than a month old. Should I return/sell it and get a TD50 and the upgrade or wait and see if they release new sounds for the TD27? Cheers
Sweetwater’s site says it’s compatible with the TD-27 module (I got worried, I have the same one!) so I’m assuming they know an update is coming down the pipeline!
The TD-27 is still basically a new module. I can't imagine they'd stick a third USB input in the back knowing the VH-14D was in the works, and then not bother to actually fully support it. That would be an incredibly crappy thing for them to do.
@@Andrew-wb2zq exactly!
@@lapin-rouge I really don’t think they’re going to hook up the td27 crowd. Without the sound upgrade it will likely function better than a VH-13 but sound the same.
@@leo.funkleta that does not include sounds which will allow you to hear the more subtle changes as you move towards the bell or towards the edge. Nor will it include the more nuanced articulations between open to close or close to open. It will be more like a “VH-13 plus”
I have been lucky enough to play all the new products and am currently using the new TD50X firmware on both my TD50 modules. You definitely can’t use any previous custom kits but can load previous samples. The VAD706 shells are all 8 ply maple. The new hats are absolutely awesome and are well worth the $$$.
It really doesn't matter whatsoever what the shells are made of.
@fartpoobox ohyeah I have one in my studio/practice space and one for gigs. I gig it a few times a week so don’t want to be pulling my upstairs kit apart all the time.
hey Brad, did the new hats have a bell sensor or playable bell? Luke's comment about their positional sensing maybe negating the need for a bell sensor got me wondering. I've been waiting with bated breath for these, but if the bell isn't playable, I'm not sure it's worth the huge dollar jump for me. I have a TD27 and trigger VST's.
@@CullenCorley hi mate. The Bell area is playable but does not give a bell sound if that is what you are looking for. They do play incredible. I have spent the afternoon playing them today.
@@bradroulston5729 hey Brad, thanks a lot for the reply. do you know by any chance, if you plug this into a computer program with bell sounds, will the bell be picked up as a bell? maybe the TD-50(x) just doesn't have hihat bell sounds to be triggered, I'm not sure about that though. but in Superior Drummer, for example, they specifically sampled the hihat bell as well, so I'm just wondering if that'll translate to a VST...
Hi Luke and thanks a lot for the video! just a question, do you think the td-27 is gonna get all the nuances from the vh-14d? or is something that just the td-50 is gonna do?
With the firmware update, the 27 and regular TD-50 will just be a supported pad with the same functionality as an analog pad, but also with the touch choking, as far as I'm aware. The full positional sensing support is only on the 50X with the new sounds, according to Roland's information on it. Thanks for watching!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks a lot Luke!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Hey Luke, theoretically, if we bypass the onboard sounds in our TD27's and trigger VST's like SD3 with lots of hihat samples, the positional sensing should translate for us too, right?
I wonder if the old VAD drums will go down in price a bit, I would totally want to upgrade my kit step by step with them and with the td27 when i gather enough moneyrinios in my bad bad country
Thanks, great video as always. I agree that the software upgrade from TD-50 to 50X is worth it, priced in-line with what we can expect. Knowing the on-board library is going to increase, I am going to proceed with the software upgrade when it is available.
I knew you would have an update!! Thanks for that. I love the new VAD706, but I have the TD-50 upgrade kit, so I have the module, the digital ride and the digital snare (massively better then my TD-20 gear). I also have stands and cymbals. So, I just want to buy the bass drum and three toms - in the Cherry - I think that is beautiful. Fingers crossed that Roland will sell them that way. I do have kits from you and VExpressions, so definitely holding off on the upgrade until you guys have a path to save those kits. As far as the digital hi-hat, at $900 USD it is definitely not an impulse buy, but I am seriously considering it.
Really glad you got this video out so quickly after launch. As a Mimic owner, I will be very interested to see what your thoughts are on the 'acoustic' quality of the new sounds and the new stock kits. Agree the 706 kits look pucker but very pricey!!!! Roland Cloud is an interesting idea a la ATV!!!! Have thought for a while that Pearl need to provide an online store to purchase new sounds or kits.......what will they do?????
it look like, one shot sample and preset kit for clouds system, not internal sound on TD-50 memory max reached with the 199$ update. Honestly, td-50 was empty, there was about 4 acoustic kit only, I would say this update make it as "finished" td-50 product.
I have the TD-50kv2 and it’s amazing!!! The digital Hi-Hat is as equally amazing!!! Originally tried the Alesis Strike Pro SE, it was horrible and the 20” acoustic kick doesn’t line up and work with Trick pedals unless you get a kick drum rise or rack to raise it. The 18” kick from Roland is set up to accompany all pedals and works beautifully although it is the loudest part of the kit. Overall I couldn’t be happier with the 50kv2. I also got 2 of the thinner 14” crash which work amazing as well!!!
Thanks for your insights. I will likely upgrade my module but am questioning whether $899 for the digital hi-hats is worth it. I'll wait for you to review them 😊
brilliant share roland should be giving you a new kit and module with your cattention to detail, thanks .
Really excited about the TD-50x firmware update, but I am skeptical about the positional sensing on PDA pad heads. The Data List document of the new module doesn't reflect the statement from their video.
Just when i though i had made up my mind and was gonna get the VAD506!
I think im still going with the 506 and get the hi hat later on. Decisions, decisions...
I’ve had mine for about a month and feel this.. I think I’m just going to buy the hats and keep everything else! My silver lining is that Sweetwater got me a hell of a deal and was able to sneak in the noise eater hat stand and double pedal for no extra cost, I guess, though
Already seeing the "why not just buy a real kit for that price" and "OMG the machine gunning on the snares and toms is unbearable." Those that actually own the module have to laugh at the machine gunning comments since we know it's virtually impossible unless relying heavily on a single shot sample and no way Roland is doing that on the preset kits. Goes to show there will be no pleasing the Roland haters and Anti Edrum Crowd altogether.
I'm insanely hyped about this. Just last week I was looking at the td50kv and was liking it, but was feeling it was missing some stuff, especially compared to the newer td27.
Then this dropped today, and I'm like "alright td-20, you're finally gonna get replaced old friend".
Did you hear if the x has Bluetooth?
Great video man!!!
Sorry for the wait. I don't believe the 50X has Bluetooth, no.
Seems odd that Roland has dropped the price of the TD50 to $1800 and sells the new one for $2400. Why not just buy the old one and upgrade for $200. Also DP is $2400 now comes with digital snare and ride...Love your content!
Simple - they are clearing out current manufactured stock. Once the legacy modules that are sitting in warehouses are gone, so will this reduced pricing. If your in the market, now is the time to buy.
Did the above, the best deal going. My VH-14Ds are on order. Who knows if Roland will ever make another upgrade pack including the previous 3 items + the hihats, I doubt it will ever beat that deal.
Why does an ebass drum need to be deeper? Just wasted space.
Agree about including the stands.
Do you think the next flagship will be totally digital including toms and bass drum?
Yeah, I don't really see the need for 22x18. I think it looks nice, but unnecessary and it wouldn't look wrong with a shallower kick, or even a 20"/18" shell. Some people have said it's out of proportion but my acoustic kit has shallow toms and a 22x20 kick, so I don't really agree about that side of it.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop will next module be all digital do you think?
Nice video Luke. As I mentioned on FB today, looking forward to new packs. My biggest concern would be losing the ones I’ve already bought from you. Save for a few custom snares, explosions and bass drops, I mostly use your kits live in my band. (edw house kit mostly!) It would be a big risk to wipe them with the upgrade! Interested to see how we proceed from here. I won’t be upgrading regardless until you push out packs. I’ve never liked anything anyone had produced until now. Including mine! I’m nowhere near your level at programming this beast. 👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Thanks for the kind words Geoff, glad you like the kits I make! You might have seen that the new kits are now available and are much closer to The eDW House Kit than anything else I've done (and the floor toms have improved since this video as I finally recorded the 18" Yamaha floor tom). As for losing the kits - they're currently not compatible with the 50X, but I will be sending out updated files for free when I have the 50X upgrade and have had time to make them. Just released a video explaining how it will work, hope it allays your fears!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks Luke. Commented on the new video. Cheers.
God I love a flagship!
WHAT? you like white drum shells? i awalys thought that solid colours look the you know "most entry level" like, the natural color is a banger not gonna lie.
For those upgrading their existing TD-50....I was under the impression (via a you tube video from another user) that the SD card could be utilised for saving everything in the module before upgrading to X, so you don’t “lose” anything, you just lose the ability to access your old kits and sounds without doing an SD card upload...hmmm...love the idea of more sounds...I programmed a lot of tuned sounds in my TD-9, bells, timpani’s, entire kits of all sorts of pitched sounds, each kit tuned to a particular chord, successive kits related to the one before it, e.g. C. Am. F. Dm. G. Em. blah blah blah.
There was no way I have been able to do that on my TD-50 with its extremely limited choice of sounds.
Maybe now....
I have the 50x upgrade, it should have been this way from the beginning (I Miss the Melodies kit), however I am very happy with it SoI purchased another 50 and doing the upgrade so i can have a back up. The upgrade fee is reasonable considering, what they want and still get for the old expansion card on the older flagship models.
Backup TD-50! That's a heavy duty failsafe you're going with! Glad you think the upgrade is worth it. I've only just managed to upgrade and the presets are definitely much nicer out of the box but I've only listened through MIDI so will have to wait until I get back in the studio to see how the playability is.
Do we know if this will work with the Rd-27
Do you mean the new hi-hat? There's been an update for the TD-27 that adds VH-14D compatibility, but it won't be the same as the TD-50X. The 50X has new sounds which accommodate the positional sensing and extra open/close transitions (according to Roland). The TD-27 update doesn't contain new sounds, so you won't get that functionality. So, it will work, but it will work more like a slightly better VH-13, I think (though I haven't tested one myself).
Thanks I have ordered the hi-hat so will see thanks Rich
Has anyone played the VH14D’s on a TD-27? Is it worth the upgrade seeing that you don’t get the new sounds of the TD-50X?
So the toms support PS on the 706, but not on the 503/506? How strange, the triggering setup looks basically identical. Bummer.
I’m really looking forward to seeing video reviews on the upgrades and especially the new digital hihats. Before I shell out more than $1100 US dollars. I’d also need a computer upgrade in order to download the upgrades. Ha! At that point should I just buy the new module?? Lol
I just hope one day Roland will release an updated spd sx with one digital for a snare
They would need to make some pretty significant updates to how the SPD-SX works to be worth using a digital pad!
it's a wav player not a synth though so you wouldn't get any added expression benefits. You can already put an RT-30HR on a mesh head on an acoustic 14" snare and use it with the SPD-SX right now?
Very bad news about the TD-50 kits not being portable to the TD-50X. I've personally spent a lot of time and a fair bit of cash on third party kits to make the TD-50 usable. It really wasn't any good out of the box. So far the new Roland sounds do not justify the upgrade and the loss of my precious kits. The launch video made it sound like you could upgrade the TD-50 to take the new digital hi-hat, but not upgrade all the sounds. Is that how you understood it Luke? That's my current thinking....upgrade the hats and take view on the full upgrade once I've tested the sounds.....or you have! :-)
Yeah, that's correct about the update. There's a new software update for the original TD-50 (v1.08) already available that adds support for the VH-14D, but the dinner m functionality of it will be basically the same as any other hi-hat pad (no positional sensing/new articulations, no extra resolution between open/closed, no new sounds), except the touch muting will still work as that's basically just MIDI aftertouch.
There has been rumors/talk of the upgrade being free for TD-50's purchased in 2021. Is there any confirmation of this?
I've heard the talk too but unfortunately not had any confirmation of it (to my knowledge).
After upgrading to VH-14D, can the previous HiHat port still be used to trigger other digital pads?
No, the digital pads disable their analogue equivalent inputs.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thank You for this needed answer! Cheers
I hit like as soon as you called yourself a gigantic geek 😂
Crazy money. I will just keep on dreaming... I think you are right there will only be very few who can afford these.
Try and find a friend who works for Roland. They do an excellent friends and family discount...
I saw Michael Schack say that you can import your saved kits somehow.
I think I might have seen the same post and I think he was referencing that you can import that same samples, but you'd need to remake the parameters (ie. the bulk of the preset). Might be wrong, though!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop yeah that might be the case. Either way it’s a bummer it’s not a direct import.
Bass drum trigger radius looks narrow on the Flagship model, can it support a double pedal configuration?
I believe it does support a double pedal, yes, but depending on the spacing of your beaters it can be a little tight. I've not tried one myself but I've seen a few people talking about it and saying that getting the positioning right is the main thing and then it usually works well.
I’m looking for a used td27 and am having terrible luck. eBay isn’t what it used to be.
Maybe I’ll just save for new
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I have one.
Hi nice video , so this hi hat will not work properly in the td 27? I mean it works but not with the full functionality ? , I want to sell my td 25kv and upgrade to the 27 or the 50 but I will like to have this new hi hat but if it does not work right with the 27 I have to buy the 50x then ? thanks
Yeah, it will work but it can't utilise all of the features. The sounds in the TD-27 won't react to the positional sensing and apparently there are optimised open/close transitions for it on the 50X which aren't in the 27. Though I haven't used them myself to verify exactly what differences you can notice when playing.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks for the fast response Luke , so do you think in the future that issue in the 27 can be fix in an upgrade of the firmware or it is not posible, I think if they add an 3rd digital input , they would have in mind the release of the digital hi hat or I am wrong ? and in the 27 that can not be fix
I suppose they could make a "27X" style upgrade that allows for improved sounds that support the digital hats better, but I guess it depends whether they think that's a viable option for their mid-tier module. I've no idea whether that fits in with their plans - they might prefer to keep it how things are so that there's more distinction between the products.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop ok thanks again for the fast response , like I told you I want to upgrade my td-25kv for the 27 or 50 it is a huge difference price in the modules but if the 27 can handle pretty well the new digital Hi hat , I will go for it, can you make a video of the comparison with the 14digital hi hat with both modules to hear the difference , that will be very helpfull, I live in Uruguay no change here to test any of this products and also imposible to buy it here , have to buy in USA and bring it with someone , I am watchin right now your video of the 27 customs bonham kit
Unfortunately I don't own a VH-14D so I can't do a video about it right now, but a friend has one so hopefully I can borrow it at some point to make such a video. No idea when that would be though so can't make any promises. Sorry about that - I don't have access to everything, just what I can afford!
After trying the aD ATV14 Hats with optical sensor, I reckon I am not looking back to anything without this precise, light sensor.
Digital or analog, controller sensor indeed matters for open-to-close transition accuracy.
Thanks for posting this video so soon after the announcement. I’m watching all of this trippin because I just bought the VAD506 two months ago and was on the fence with getting the 50 module. I’m glad I got what I got but knowing that the new digital high hat can be used with my 27 module without the new sounds kinda blows. They want $900USD just to make it digital. Question is, is it even worth the purchase without the new sounds? I’m hoping to see a video showcasing any reason to upgrade to the digital hat on the td27.
Same here, if it turns out to be as responsive as the digital snare & low-ride ill definitely get it.
out of all of them, the KV2 looks the coolest to me. I think the 706 kick is too big and looks out of proportion with the rest of the kit. 20x14 would have looked much cooler.
Really dont need the deep shells on edrum. Just takes up space..
@@johndef5075 totally, and looks kinda dumb
Something tells me we won't see this HH for a while, the new thin cymbals took so long to become available but you never know. As a whole it's a nice jump from the TD20/30 but took so long to get to this point as Roland just adds one thing to a new kit until it's fully updated...not to cannibalize it's self of course. But it feels like the TD50 should have been this but looks like it took drum-tec and ATV and maybe Pearl to finally get Roland to move in the A2E direction and expand their sounds, wonder what the TD60 will be? Yeah it looks good but holy shit that's a lot of dough...but it's for those rich people who will play it twice a month lol Building your own is definitely a much cheaper option and just going with Roland cymbals/TD27 module. That's the route I took after my last Roland kit. But I HOPE the digital HH is actually better in HHC department for playing more of the open/closed stuff...Also hope the sounds are good this time.
Hey man, Interesting point! What would you do with about 3k budget max!
I am about to get the TD27 kit (upgrading from my good old TD12KV)!
Should i go for something else? I never thought about the special ATV, Gewa, drumtec setups because firstly its expensive and secondly often too much of a hassle than just getting the regular td27.
What would you recommend?
@@prod_adrian I'm not much of a budget guy as my kit is a 7pc no compromise, all latest Roland cymbals w/TD50 running SD3...to build a A2E is not hard but you do have to do a bunch of research and then carry out the work and miscalculations can be made and you might have to trouble shoot, mine all went smoothly... If you could stretch your budget to a VAD506, that will give you a TD27, the 2 new thinner cymbals and 2 Digital pads (with a 3rd open for a future VH14D) which are so great and will be a huge upgrade and the acoustic look and presence/size is amazing and will last you for years. And it will all be set up out of the box. Or you could drop to the VAD 503 and lose a tom and cymbal but will limit your kit. Or again you could go thru making your own shells (with a HW bundle and more shells on any color as long as the kit isn't too awkward for rigger installation), getting a TD27 Digital Pack, HH/Cymbals you want to complete the setup. ATV cymbals are okay but they don't cost any less and aren't as nice imho. Rdrums for triggers or just cones and make your own metal base/brackets with 1 or 3 cones per shell and drum-tec for heads. I did mine before the VAD line/TD27 so I was able to dump the money into cymbals and modules to experiment. Now with the VAD kits...it's a pretty good deal tbh and the one I'd recommend lol
@@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage Hey man. sorry for the late reply, was pretty busy! Thanks for that indepth text of yours though! So... im in a city flat so the big acoustic-ish shells dont really work anyway. Building my own set is also pretty risky for the cost, i mean its a nice project, but i dont think i would be able to handle that financial risk mentally with the poor attempt of craftmanship haha... I mean even making my own kit would be like at least 2-3K right? I would definitely say i play on intermediate level so i have standards, but the TD27 seems like a pretty great upgrade from my TD12 already. Only the newer kid pads i dont like, they should have just reworked the KD85 imo!
@@prod_adrian Sure thing, that's why edrums are so great there's so much choice and some still prefer the compact aspect of it and VAD might not suit everyone. TD27 would be a big upgrade in the sound department/editing and future upgrades. But it will be worth picking up a TD27 Digital pack for sure. It will look outta place with the other smaller pads but that ride and snare are amazing. I'm getting the digital HH as soon as it's in stock...don't do pre orders.
@@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage Oh yeah, i would most definitely grab the TD27 version with the two digital pads, to be honest, never even knew that there was a lower budget version of the kit without them! About the digital HH i have to see though. A lot of people claim that the potential is only half reached without the functions made for the reworked td50X, so yeah lets see about it being worth it. The touch on the ride and snare were amazing though, i was able to try them out at a local store.
Super stoked about the TD27, cant wait to upgrade from my old 12! The new smaller kickpad on the td27 is my only fear... I am also getting the Drumtec Expansion kits. Can you recommend some more realistic sounding ones? I dont want to use SuperiorDrummer for recording purposes if possible.
Can someone please clarify what it means when a cymbal is digital? Why is this different from the vh11?
The digital pads have extra circuitry and components inside them that allow additonal functions and do some "pre-processing" of the signal, sending out a MIDI signal. They use a USB cable (a digital connection) to interface with the module rather than a jack cable (an analog connection). The analog cymbals are effectively just sending a sound wave down the cable whereas the digital ones are sending more data.
The digital pads are class-compliant MIDI devices that transmit specific preset note numbers.
Has anyone tried their own digital hats design besides Roland? Is there a schematic available for Roland's digital hats?
Has it REALLY been a year since these announcements?!!!
A year and a half 😵💫😱
Actually best of all is I no longer have to listen to some e-drummers bragging about how their TD-30's cost a quarter as much but have a much larger and better sounding assortment of kits and sounds than the TD-50. 😹
Just teasing!
😂🙏
Why does the video keep zooming in and out?
I really think the digi hihat dont be that good as we wished for.
We'll see but i can't stand playing a fricken 12'' toy hi-hat. Ordered one and i'll sell my VH13 that has cost a fortune and i never liked.
@@alancarver2511 ah you people in those rich countries and your perfect hihats you dont like. tell us in 2 months if the digi is good tho.
@@jezusmylord If it's perfect for you it's cool then but it just wasn't for me. Will receive my VH14D in june and tell you then what i think of it. Good tests right of the bat will be to play the bridge in April Wine's I Like To Rock and play the bell in the last verse of Aerosmith's Sweet Emotion. I play 15'' acoustics so going to 12'' electronics was also something that just wasn't working.
@@alancarver2511 i didnt play acustic in 10 years or so i dont have that comparision in my head anymore but not gonna lie the vh11 i have is a bit smol.
KV2 can be purchased for £5444
Where from? I only saw one or two prices when I had a look around!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Hate to say it, Thomann
www.thomann.de/gb/roland_td_50kv2_v_drums_kit.htm
Ah yeah - now that we're no longer in the old trade agreements, that's without VAT. That'll be applied when it crosses the boarder, plus possibly duty and courier fees for dealing with it. With that VAT, it'd be £6532, then the other costs on top will probably bring it in line with UK prices :(
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Good point, silly me.
I wouldn't buy an expensive bass that didn't come with tuners, pickups. and a bridge. i would expect that premium cost to give me everything I need to play it.
It doesn't work that way with good drum kits, except occasionally the snare stand. The bass pedal (or double bass) and hi-hat stand/pedal are very personal choices. You can't expect everyone to want iron cobras, for example. It would be like expecting a nice guitar to come with a strap and amp. That only happens on cheapo guitar "combos" for beginners. I personally would likely hate whatever pedals they included, I'd put 'em on ebay. Selecting the perfect bass pedal for you and your style is the hardest and most personal decision a drummer has to make. I spent hours and hours trying them out before landing on a limited edition direct drive setup. Roland is smart by not including them, that would be awful.
@@RADERFPV Understandable for the $1800-$2500 kits.Maybe. If i'm paying $5K to $8K for a kit, put the DW 5000 in there etc. If I'm that picky I'll sell it and put the money toward my special pedal.
@@longsnapper5381 Good point :)
Everything is getting digitaal and electric, even women now these days, poehhh
This cost more than my car. So I'm not going to watch this