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- Japanese Reacts to "History of Japan" by Bill Wurtz and comments of what she knows about it.
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I was like “how did she not know about the Axis powers and how Japan colonized all of SE Asia in WW2?!” And then she explained how Japanese education on WW2 is very short. Ah. Gotcha.
The Japanese history lessons regarding WW2 go along these lines: Japan was minding its own business when all of a sudden the U.S. attacked them for trying to get oil. The U.S. firebombed Tokyo into the 17th century, then dropped two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then the war ended, with thousands dying to radiation poisoning and radiation pollution over the next 20 years, while the U.S. treated Japan like a conquered nation until the 70's-80's.
While a lot of the latter bit of that is true, it ignores the fact that Japan invaded Korea, China, the Philippines and other SE and E Asian landmasses in order to fund their war using conquered countries' peoples as slaves to work in manufacturing weapons of war and petroleum. It also kind of ignores the Manchukuo Railway Incident which was effectively the beginning of WW2, as it gave Germany the go-ahead to invade Poland at the time. After years of this, when oil started to become scarce, Japan began targeting further West, encroaching on U.S. land (e.g. Hawaii), thus leading to the proactive bombing of Pearl Harbor. This in turn caused the U.S. to declare war on Japan for their actions, and the U.S. and its Navy practically stomped Japan back into its own territory, losing all of Japan's gains in the process.
The firebombing of Tokyo and the end of the war in Germany was basically ending the war in the Pacific, but the U.S. _really_ wanted to try out their atomic weaponry. So they made up excuses to use them, like the fact that a land war with Japan would cause more lives to be lost overall than just dropping the bombs (i.e. lies). Japan was already preparing to surrender to the U.S., as it looked like the Soviet Union was turning its attention towards Japan during these later days of WW2. The Tokyo Firebombings killed millions more people than the atomic bombings, but all we remember of the end of WW2 is Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In this sense, both the U.S. and Japan are at fault for downplaying their own atrocities during the Pacific Front of WW2. Not to mention the Japanese Concentration camps in the U.S.. and Unit 721 of the Japanese Science and Research Department. Both of which would easily classify as War Crimes nowadays, but no one brings them up outside of college history education due to the fact that teaching these things to children would seriously screw them up.
However, Japan is much worse in teaching these things than the U.S., which at least has college history courses about them. Japan doesn't have any, and the vast majority of Japanese citizens don't even know that Pearl Harbor was even an event that happened in the first place, let alone that they're the ones responsible.
Germany has done a great job in teaching their fault in the war, but Japan has not. There are things you should and shouldn't teach kids regarding WW2, but Japan outright fails at teaching any facts regarding their responsibilities when it comes to their worst moments in history.
Unlike Germany, The Japanese government is hiding their worst warcrimes ever like a coward 🤦♂️
Yeah me too at first
@@ojisankusai I’m a Japanese student and all of us are learning about the Manchurian Incident and the Pearl. However, the damage caused by the atomic bomb was so great that it is the main topic.
@@ojisankusainot that I fundamentally disagree with you, because overall this is a good summary, but in presenting America was looking for an excuse to use the nuclear option you sort of glossed over the part where Japan was not going to surrender unconditionally in the Potsdam Declaration. They very much wanted to surrender to America instead of Russia of their options, but there was a race against time with the Russia army encroaching and negotiations having logistical and communication issues.
I’m not saying America did not have its own faults in the decision. Certain generals wanted to use it on what was left of Tokyo and Kyoto until they had some sense talked into them to focus on strictly military targets. (For nukes anyway, I realize with some experimental weapons like the fire bats in Tokyo that you can’t control them effectively)
At the very least I think it is agreeable that the way the U.S. handled the surrender, occupation, and reconstruction of Japan is one of the few success stories of a nation growing through means away from war. In not having to invest in growing their military at the time they were able to put all their money in growth and infrastructure. This last part is something I wish every country could go through. The standard of living, even with tedious work culture and relying on imports, is one of the highest in the world.
"Japan is such a small island why would it want to invade places"
Britain: uhhhhh *quietly sips tea*
The Portuguese Empire: (literally a single beach)
The Dutch Empire: (a swamp)
"You think he's compensating for something?"
Lol was thinking that ^
Saw a " meme ". It was God and someone else talking. He says, " Then I'm gonna make this small country ( England ) and it's gonna control over 25% of the world ". His friend says, " What ! ". As a Canadian it just made me laugh.
@@scottmorris5730 It controlled like half of the world because it controlled all of the important sea routes at some point in time.
Napolean complex. I guess, when you're a small island, you want to be a larger nation that plays a bigger role globally? And then there's China. I don't know what the hell China wants. They have all the land in the world.
"We don't wanna teach kids what we did wrong." You're so correct.
The problem with that is you HAVE to teach them what was wrong and why it's wrong. It's too bad a lot of people don't understand that.
'Those who forsake history are doomed to repeat it.'
yea no you are wrong look around you G history is in repeat over and over again
@@SatansHodge History repeats itself exactly because people aren't taught about what was wrong and why it was wrong though? You learn about what other countries did that was bad, but you don't really learn about what the country you live in did that was bad. Sure there are exceptions, and those places are a bit better for it, but you can't ignore the fact that is shown in this video, Japanese history lessons don't teach you about what bad things Japan did, just like how American history lessons don't teach(or at the very least downplay or gloss over) much about the mass murder of the native population either.
History repeats itself because we forsake our history.
@@FumeiYuusha I have to intervene in that one. Here, in Germany, we are taught about what we did in the World War, what crimes we did and how very wrong it is. We are very serious about this topic and it is a crime to deny that it ever happened. Even kids that make fun of it are strictly reprimanded and lectured about the gruesome deaths. So, to say that we "are a bit better" is a little understated. Please respect the big efforts we are making on educating people about our wrongdoings and on preventing that it ever happens again.
@@RoteKirschbluete No, I would call that a bit better. And it's a good thing, I am happy for Germany being a bit better than other countries. For me to consider a big improvement in history education, you don't just have to teach about your own country's wrongdoings, but other countries wrongdoings as well. Do German students learn about how Russia was formed? The rise and fall of the Soviet Union? About the atrocities in south and north america? About the Japanese wars, Korea, the many many Chinese wars, the endless rebellions/civil wars that happened there? About Shaka Zulu? The African Slave Trade and how it ended? About the Congo Free State, and how many natives died there?
Sure you could say there's not enough time for a student to learn all of that, and maybe you're right. Maybe I want too much, maybe I'm just too idealistic.
And sorry if I come off as an asshole, but Germany only gets a 'bit better' from me.
@@FumeiYuusha No, the problem is we all wanna learn but our schools are so damn OLDSCHOOLED!!
It's so frustrating! We from the younger generations want to know all of these things but because our education system still has to get updated A LOT we can only research in the internet!
You wanna know what we learn in history in highschool? Fucking Rome vs Germani (I mean, why?), French Revolution, colonization in Africa and both WWs. And the worst part is that it is not even an obligation (you can choose not to choose history as a subject). So the only think of these thinks you really learn since the beginning is WW2.
I'm thankful that English has always been an obligation thus we learn in full length of what happened in America (though mostly centered on slavery but at least better than our history lessons).
And you aiming for the wrong person. You shouldn't blame Germany as a whole for not upgrading as much as we want to. You should blame that god damn government that seems to see no obligation to change the school system and thus our education, even though we give them the MONEY TO!!
Trust me when I say that most of our younger generations KNOW that things have to change. But it is a little difficult to do so when older people push in and say "You can't fully understand what you are saying. It is more complicated than you think. You don't know what kind of things have happened."
"Yeah, I wonder why, teacher!"
" I didn,t know we invaded Korea. " Bet the Koreans know.
日本人も「歴史」として知っています。毎度こういう話題で出てくる日本人は社会の授業で寝ている人ばかりです
It's so interesting that every Japanese person seems to know Perry, but almost no Americans do and conversely, every American knows Japan was part of the Axis powers in World War II, but most Japanese people don't. It's interesting what is taught in each country.
@@NecessaryTruths the fuckin USA
Took a US Japan history class for university. Did a paper on Commodore Perry. Was extremely interesting as a Japanese American to learn about this.
I had NEVER heard of this dude before and it's crazy how important of a character he was during the final years of the Tokugawa shogunate.
@@josephgold208 I think it might be due to what Japan did to Korea and China during WW2 and I don't think their government has yet to even say "sorry about that" to the whole problem.
I don't understand how anybody who learns basic history about the lead up to world war II wouldn't remember Perry. We learned about the initiation of American and Japanese relations. I think it's more likely that people just don't remember that name in the same way that they forget half the geometry they learned in high school by the time they're 30.
In the AP course I was in back in high school, Perry is at most just another multiple choice answer on a test.
why are u pissed off at the idea of "copying". It is not copying, it is trading. A whole world is built on it. No single country came this far on its own without trading with other parts of the world. that's what made the whole world prosper.
Yup. And if you customize what you "copied", you can say that's yours.
It's a mild form of xenophobia / nationalist supremacy if we are being honest. Most cultures have this to some extent, some more than others.
It's crazy that almost every Japanese person that reacts to this video doesn't know much about what happened in the world wars. It's crazy
Not just crazy dangerous.
i watched another reaction from a Japanese woman who said, in Japan, they kind of don't talk about modern history like the world wars and i didnt really take it seriously but seeing this person's reaction adds justification to that. it's very shocking
@@audibleadventures9004 I agree it is dangerous because that means there's nothing learnt from all the experience
@@viperb4148 it also means that many died for nothing, since nothing is ever learned from the past if you ignore history....shocking indeed.
So when I lived there, people often asked me my opinion on the atomic bombs but never really talked about the war itself- which made talking about the bombs difficult.
It's actually really interesting how they never talked about how bad Japan was towards East and South East Asia during their Imperialism and WW1&2.
It’s not a big factor and also another thing is that Japan has been a target for centuries by the Koreans and Chinese and even at one point had to trade with the Spanish to get goods from China because china bad all trade to japan. And even though Japan was able to get the resources they need they were also a victim again in the Spanish trading when the Spanish started smuggling Japanese people as slaves more specifically woman.
Even though the Japanese were enslaving their own people as well. But i think its much more common in the farther east Asia to have their own people as slaves than taking other ethnic groups because it would probably create discourse. Since from my knowledge in Ancient China most maids in the palaces were all Han Chinese or Manchu depending on the dynasty.
@@moumuooo.o2283 Japan has been a target by Korean..?
I think Japan tried to invade Korean and succeded multiple times, and for what I've seen they did a lot of atrocities.
@@moumuooo.o2283 wtf did the Philippines have anything to do with that? The amount of war crimes Japan committed in the Philippines…
@@moumuooo.o2283 it is a big factor in the modern world.
Kind of complicated that she didn't know the Japan was a member of the Axis. I recommend the World War 2 week-by-ween video series.
bro really said here comes the sun
@@XxKillerJayxXdo do doodoo
Complicated? Her govt kept their entire nation in the dark. Say it how it is.
The woman was smiling and Laughing when Japan invade other countries in ww2, but got offended when US dropped the nuke on Japan
Yup, typical lol.
they actively killed and raped civilians too, Nanking massacre was at least 300k civillians killed in a week
😂
"It's only funny when it happens to someone else"
-Japan probably
She didn't knew about the AXIS coalition (Rome-Berlin(Nazis!!!)-Tokyo) in WW2? Well I've heard before that they don't really talk much about WW2 in schools.... But come on, what about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the reason behind it? aren't they curious about it?
Like she says at 19:55, "If we did something bad, you don't want to teach kids what we did wrong."
And Japan really did a lot wrong in the World Wars era. It's hard to deal with the ugly parts of your national history. Kinda like how people in the US don't like to talk in much detail about slavery or what settlers did to Native Americans or dropping the atom bombs on Japan. And if they do, it's usually in defensive oversimplifications, trying to protect their own national feelings.
Nobody particularly likes hearing about the evils committed by people just like themselves in past eras.
@@BradyPostma You are very wrong about the US. In most states we are taught extensively about slavery and its horrors, atrocities of all kinds during western expansion, the horrendous cost of the nuclear blasts, and that's all before highschool. Literally every single conversation about race in this country has to include, "given the historical oppression of x, y, and z people by the white majority...." as a backdrop. That being said there are still many Americans who assert that, on the whole, the country has been a force for good. The narrative that is most commonly espoused in our highest institutions of learning, communication channels, social media, etc. is one that is hyper-critical of this country, so I think you don't really understand the degree to which the US is critical of itself.
@@andrewrank9512 It is taught extensively now, but much less so in parents' generation and almost not at all in my grandparents' generation.
@@andrewrank9512 We're taught more about it than Japanese about their national sins, but less than Germans are taught about theirs. I still meet a lot of adult Americans who don't know about the Tulsa Race Riots, Tuskegee, Wounded Knee, or the Lost Cause historians.
It also varies quite a lot by state, and from school to school.
But comment was an attempt to show solidarity with Japan, not to discuss American education in depth.
@@BradyPostma Well you compared how Japan discusses the nasty parts of its history to the way that the US discusses the nasty parts of its history. The two are not comparable. America's biggest historical failures are a part of our national discussion to a degree that pushes the border of practicality. You can't take a humanities class in the US that doesn't make national self-criticism an explicit part of the syllabus. Germany takes it to a whole other level where national shame hangs over them which presents its own set of problems.
Btw Erika, in fact some people really say that japanese schools avoid talking about World War II and all the stuff because you know, it's a very dark subject regarding Japan. Giving the fact that even the Axis existance was new to you...and to explain why Japan "changed sides", it's a very complicated point which envolves japanese nationalism and overall concepts of how japanese people behaved (and some still behave in fact) about self-conduct (an order is more important than anything else, even being a wrong order).
In the Philippines
WW2 is a very, very , very talked about topic
no, its not just that, many school systems have literal revisionnist view that glorifies the days of the empire, and they are very well present in the form of lashing out when criticized.
the japanese are both the victim and the cause of this issue
@@syrupyourmaple8261 Here in Italy we are very much aware of the horrors of fascism and the Axis. Despite that, some people are still fan of Mussolini, to this day. Some politicians, too. Schools are not enough
@@fostena But it's better to have some awareness basis, so then people can make their own judgements no matter what they are, than to just leave something aside and get a reaction that to the rest of the world or mostly, sounds like it comes from someone ignorant cuz...
"World War II !"
But ya, it's not that simple as exclaiming about WW2 in the end.
@@filypa101 Of course, knowledge is never a bad thing.
At 12:55 the reason why Britain and Japan were "afraid" of Russia is because the constant expansion of Russia into their territory during that time. Britain didn't like that Russia are enroaching closer to India through Central Asia, and Japan didnt like the presence of Russia in Manchuria and Pacific in general. Basically the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Good reaction video btw, i like the fact that you pause the video during your comment so it doesnt feel rushed out. Keep up the good work 👍
The deadpan she's giving when he's laughing at the bombs being dropped, "It's not funny." is about the same feeling I had when she kinda pushed back on the idea that Japan could have allied with the Nazi's.
I get that there is this nationalistic thing where the more shameful things a country does kind of gets supressed, but typically (I think) it's the more isolated stuff that you get away with hiding. World War 2 was so big, and so recent, that it defy's belief that you wouldn't be educated in its basics. I mean, Germany went hardcore into teaching about it in the belief that to know what happened would prevent it from ever happening again.
it kinda IS funny... karma is a B
You're really talking about Germany's way of teaching about WW2? Let me educate you , in german schools they teach , that Polish people attacked german radiostation and that Polish government at that time wanted to conquer Germany.
Each German that learned about WW2 from school thinks that Poles got what they deserved during WW2.
Great example my friend , really a great example of dealing with your own history right?
Got something to be ashamed of? Just shift the blame
@@purpleguy5274what the heck? Den Mist hab ich definitiv nicht gelernt. Wo hast du das her?
@@lhuras. saw this In history books from Sachsen-Anhalt (I think that's the name of the Land that's Magdeburg in) at around 2005 when my polish friends daughter went to school there.
@@purpleguy5274 i can't believe that. D:
I left school at 2004 and we had not that kind of bs in our books. The kids of my sister who are still at school have that neighter... but I'm not from Sachsen-Anhalt... but they should have the same books in all states. If it's true that this was written in those books than this is more, than disgusting and I'm really shocked about it.
9:13 Bill explains that those areas were controlled by those clans, not necessarily that the area was called that. Because of his style, you really have to pay attention or it's easy to miss things.
When she said "it's not funny" i think her Imperial spirit starts to show up
Japan wanted resources and expansion just like every other empire. I do not think this is uniquely western given that there have been empires such as the mongols and the persians etc etc. I guess foreigners consider it western because the british empire is the largest to have ever eisted and as western science far outgrew that of other nations, they could conquer other nations with relative ease and technological superiority. What I do think is Japan was now unified, it will never expand if its still fighting itself. Once under one rule and at peace, it can look outwards. Japan does not have many resources, its mostly mountains to be honest, China has all the resources it could ever want so its a logical place to conquer for example, especially since china was poor and disorganized in comparison to Japan at the time.
It's true. British empire was largest to exist, but before that, we were a small island that kept getting invaded. It wasn't until after all the infighting (especially England and Scotland) that an empire was able to form
the japanese empire is seen as copying european empires because that is literally, explicitly what they were doing. The meiji restoration and subsequent empire building was an attempt by the japanese to imitate the patterns for success that europeans had used in the region.
@@LODintheshadows thing is even before the conquest of the btrish isles england was tryign to take over France as well inthe famous hundred years war.
Of course, fi they had won they'd be known as the Kingdom of France and England, with French being the primary title (As was the entire point of the Hundred Years War), much like how Japan would have been known as just another foreign ruled Chinese empire if that shogun who tried to conquer it had actually succeeded.
Japan actually learn colonization from west
@malakatan3235 yea, those samurai waging war in Korea must have just been tourists.
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it
Her: *drops a nuke "It's not funny"
Me: "Performing vivisections on Chinese children and spreading bubonic plague isn't funny either"
The Russian Empire was extremely large. Large enough to be a significant player, despite falling behind in technology and industrialization. As for the islands, territory for the sake of territory. Forward bases, more resources, etc.
Literally the only reason they were pushing back the germans just throwing wave after wave and the germans couldnt keep up lol
Its basicaly the course of natural ressourses. Russian elites became confortable with their vast land and this ttansform thr tzardom into a reactionary feudal lords paradise and blocked the development. Here in latin america we had the same problem, but with colonal elites who are confortable with the explotation of natural ressources and dont like modernization.
"was korea invaded? I think no.."
Korea: I hope God and Buddha listen to you miss...
Japan never invaded Korea.
@sara.cbc92 tf
"It's not funny." Says the person extremely ignorant about what Japan did during WWII. Yeah I bet that shit wasn't funny, what about all the genocide, raping, chemical experiments?
How come she dosesn't know the fact that Japan was the allies of Nazis.
What's going on with japanese history classes ??
Hmm,yea ikr
The older generations decided not to teach it to their youth to look good. They can't know what they aren't taught. Blame the ones who intentionally withheld information, not the ones they withheld it from. What's important is that they are learning now thanks to the internet.
That's odd, here in my country, kids are taught every bit of the darkest parts of our History so they WON'T repeat those mistakes ever again. They're also told they're not to bear responsability for their ancestors' foolishness, and encouraged to try and go forwards for a better future.
Of course I can't speak for my whole country but that's at least the idea I, along with many others around me, was raised into.
So I find it a little disturbing Japanese people are not taught about their own History properly, as if they don't trust their kids to handle the truth and leave them ignorant while the rest of the world knows. What good does it make?
The older generations withheld the information to make themselves look good. Their culture is also heavily based on "respect your elders", so they figured that telling them their own wrong doings would make the youth disrespectful to their elders and they'd become delinquents. What's important is that they are learning now thanks to the internet.
What education system do in Japan about history is also kinda the same in the Philippines which is really fucking annoying when you learn about it yourself from the internet.. Our history classes here was only all about what the culture was when Spaniards controlled the islands and about Dr Jose Rizal which is considered the hero in the country.. No any kinds of wars were mentioned like helping jews during the WW2, helping South Korea during the Korean War, the Spanish--Filipino war, the Filipino-American war, etc.
What country you from?
@@elliotyourarobot i'm guessing germany based on what i've heard about the german education system n how much they're really trying to make sure the past doesn't repeat itself. As an american, I envy that about the german education system. They teach students everything n don't hold back cuz of some excuse they make like "for the sake of the children", "for respect", "it's in the past, no need to relive" etc. It's stupid that so many countries, especially the huge ones with such an insane amount of ppl, decide to ignore and actively bury important parts of history. I was NEVER taught about the US camps that "detained" japanese americans and even ppl that just "looked japanese". They were entirely too similar to the camps germany used n we rn't taught any of it. We rn't told that the US acted as a safe haven for nazi's after the war n rarely put any of them on trial, instead choosing to use the knowledge they obtained from their horrifying experiments in our most important scientific advancements. We rn't informed about very much of the 7 years war even tho that's what truly led to the revolutionary war. N instead we spend most of our history/social studies classes, learning about the revolutionary war. We learn nonstop about the american revolution and world war 2. But we were never taught much of the parts before we joined WW2. The only part of that we r taught is that the allied powers were losing. We're very minimally taught about the cold war n rn't taught any of the connections between the cold war n all of the active wars of that time (aka the korean war and the vietnam war). I didn't even learn that we participated in or that there even was a korean war until after graduating. N in the northern half of the US, we skim over the lost battles of the Civil war, like those battles didn't matter. It's only thanks to oversimplified that ik the name of the confederate president. N yet we spend that other half of our social studies/history education "learning" about the civil war n ww2. N it was always the second one. They spent at most half a yr on ww1. As if it was just the pre-quel to ww2 n didn't need to be talked about much. It was so skimmed over, it was hard to remember that Franz Ferdinand was the trigger for ww1 n NOT ww2. I hate the US education system cuz we have to learn everything from the internet. N tend to only know what to google from yt vids n tiktoks. It's insane n sick n will cause history to keep repeating itself.
@@clwilliams9276 true but even and educated population can cause history to repeat as well, just look at what German and European official's are saying about Russians nowadays, calling them orcs and saying how different they are and how they don't have the same values and how they don't value life so they view death differently. To be honest they are being more honest then they have ever been.
It's kinda the opposite of germany, here we learn about world war II, how it happened and what we have to do to make sure it doesn't happen again IN GREAT DETAIL. Though maybe it's just because for us it's much harder to just deny being part of those horrible things than for Japan...
I do think both do a bad job (arguably Japan do it worst though), Japan being ignorant towards history and German (Europe) being being too shameful of themselves to the point banning many things that doesn't makes sense (like people afraid using swastika, remember the east use that symbol since aeons ago)
Too little and too much is bad
Apparently, Germany's the only country to full disclose its past behaviour.
Even the former allied nations brush some of their own war crimes under the carpet.
When she said she didn't know japanese even conquered Korea, I was so shocked I threw my phone.
Japan never invaded Korea.
@@sara.cbc92u acoustic?
Martin Scorsese made a film staring Adam Driver about the Portuguese Jesuits who were trying to make Japan Christian called silence. As you can guess it didn’t go that well for the Portuguese.
yEAH! Martin Scorsese Inquisitor was the best Anime bad guy character!~ lol...
It was going well at first, until a shogun heard that it would lead to a Portuguese invasion.
The Japanese Christians who refused to give up even to the end were chads though
It is hard for many people not to respond in a hostile way upon seeing that many Japanese people do not know of their bad history in the second world war because of bad it was and because we learn so much about it here. The older generations in Japan intentionally withheld this information from their own youth to look good. It is not your fault for not being taught, but it is the fault of your elders for not teaching you. It is important to know that bad parts of your own nation's history so the same mistakes can be avoided in the future. What's important is that many Japanese people are starting to learn now thanks to the internet.
The pink area is the area where rice farm and rice kingdoms were, people lived in the other parts of Japan but they didn’t use rice farms and rice kingdoms
17:27 change of regime can change the opinion of a nation to another nation that's why the relationship soured and Japan started liking germany which the UK did not like
The word ”Kamikaze” actually comes from those two tornados destroying the mongols (well they were typhoons but still).
"God Wind", and they meant it literally.
Before RUclips removed annotations, bill had added corrections on the video itself to correct to typhoon. RUclips really screwed up by removing them
Wow thats the reason why so much japan generation never know about the slavery in south east asia, south korea, nanking china..
Man. So break my heart.
You are saying a lot of silly stuffs because the Japanese conquest was with the idea of making the colonized territories independent from the European countries and there is no data that says that they were slaves of the Japanese, you really do not know anything about this topic and if it makes you feel better, there was four times the nankin massacre.
@@shineore5086 tell me a bullshit when you meet in my my grandmother's graves and I will take you on a tour of Indonesian, filliphin massacre museums.
romusha museum. Initially we accepted Japan because they promised to free. but they do the opposite.
the corpses of the fighters. the corpse of a prostitute I will prove it to you.
when the Japanese army felt they would lose. they turned around to help but it was only 300 people. it is just to reverse the reputation so that there is no international law.
@@shineore5086 Yeah, independent like Korea... Wait, they are handing me a note.
@@shineore5086 there is evidence stupid.
@@shineore5086 How the hell did you ever pass history class?
Baekje was a kingdom in southwest Korea. You can see a lot of similarities between the temples down in like Osaka with the traditional temples in the former Baekje area of Korea because of the flow of Buddhism from Baekje to southern Japan.
Good point. Back in the 2010s, the emperor of Japan admitted that his lineage is from Baekje. This of course caused a huge controversy
Idiotic comment. 99% of Korean architecture was carbon copied from China. Japanese architecture is Chinese not Korean influenced
His 'History of the Entire World, I Guess' is even better.
At 2:31 the video doesn't mean there aren't Japanese outwith this pink area. It just means rice farming isn't outwith this area. Humans still lived across Japan. Rice farming is in the Pink area and humans still lived in other areas that didn't rice farm.
the average japanese person's ignorance of japan's history as conquerors and influence on the world stage is sad. it's as if japan's history education is doing this on purpose. it's sad that most people have this "but japan is a small island" mentality.
Britain is also a tiny island, and they ruled about a quarter of the world at one point.
@@BradyPostma "we're just a small island nation" paint ourselves as the underdog mentality. half of it is a culture where you have to put yourselves down as a sign of humility, and half of it is just ignorance of japan's reach. if society is ignorant, it won't feel any guilt. which is ironic because japan is ALREADY a "culture of great shame." why is it that when it comes to matters of history they're seemingly, shameless. :/
Germany's education takes the opposite route: they emphasize the WW2 actions of Germany, the extreme shame of it all, and the Never Again mentality so hard that most Germans come away believing that there's never any excuse for nationality or patriotism, that it is always philosophically flawed to take pride in a collective of any kind.
@@BradyPostma And both approaches are wrong, though its admittedly a difficult balance to reach.
@@lowtechredneck6704 What's the right approach, do you think?
As a Japanese, I would like to say that most Japanese people know that Japan was an Axis power and learn it well in compulsory education. It's just that the woman in the video is an ignorant person who is not interested in history. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that most Japanese do not know about history.
Well, my experience with the Nijonjin are that they typically don’t know much about Nihon history during WW2. They do know alot of Nihon history otherwise, but not WW2 history.
The Japanese don't learn the history of colonial rule.
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I learned about it in Japan.
11:25 - Yes, his name *IS* Perry! Matthew Perry! Which is also the name of the actor that played Chandler Bing on Friends!
And now the US and Japan are friends.
The reason they could understand each other from your question at 5:49 is explained at 5:18 . Japan at the time used Chinese as it's language so they spoke the same language.
Even today a lot of Kanji is Chinese Characters. I speak some Mandarin and can understand a lot of the Japanese signs in videos about Japan.
The written languages were identical, pretty much all of east Asia used Classical Chinese. The analogy is Latin in the Middle Ages.
i been watching this and im shocked japanese people dont know about the hideous inhumane crimes of war they commiteed overe the year and it's interesting to see how they own up to those claims most of them resent them and cant belive it like serously ? you didnt know japan was fucking brutal ? and i also find how inflicteed they are about thee bombings even tho it's not there lifee time they have nothing to do with war or anything yet there is still something that lingers theres humans are weird ... proceds to subscribe 👍
Fr what I've learnt, Japan predominantly teaches "old history", but many schools actively avoid teaching "modern" history, due to the negative connotations during their conquests and ww2, especially relating to Korea.
I love how every Japanese person seems to know who Matthew Perry is but as an American I had no Idea as to who this guy was until I saw this video for the first time hahaha
Don't think "they don't teach this in class in Japan" about her not knowing about the alliance between Japan and Germany.
Usually, in Japanese history, everyone always learns this in class.
Of course, there are individual differences in the accumulation of knowledge, and of course she may know something that I should have learned in class but have forgotten.
Don't look at the forest for the trees.
People lived on the whole island, but only some parts started farming rice that early. The places that weren't marked with pink had people, they just didn't farm, meaning they lived only as hunters and gatherers, like "cave people" basically.
i love how scaired he gets whenever she badmouths the yakuza. can't live your life afraid of the gangs, and if its bad enough where you really have to be that afraid, might consider moving or joining lol
At 17:37, we get to the heart of it: "How much do Japanese learn in school about history?" And from everything in this video and what I have seen more broadly, the answer is somewhere between "not much" and "jack sh*t."
Well… at least she’s somewhat self aware as to why Japan might wish to gloss over less glorious portions of history. One step at a time I supose
3:00 = Probably because Ainu people were in the Northern areas.
I'd like to know more about Ainu people.
Yes the Ainu people live in Hokkaido
The thing about history is that if you don't learn from the past, more likely than not, you're doomed to repeat it
Japan and Germany were quite different in their post ww2 attitude. I'm from Europe so its Europe's parts of the war that we learned about, we know that Africa and India and Japan and Australia etc were all involved, but they're not really talked about. The main focus, being from the UK, is Nazi Germany, Britain and France. For the rest of Europe, including Germany, we teach about Nazis and all that they did and stood for too.
From what I'm aware, over in Asia, Japan's actions are talked about too, except unlike Germany, Japan doesn't teach their own citizens about it.
For Germany, to prevent anyone like Hitler coming into power again, any kind of promotion of Nazi materials or symbolism is illegal. They teach about what happened so their citizens can recognise and know the signs of a fascist takeover, and prevent it from happening again.
In Japan I believe ww2 is an era they feel shame for. Like in Germany it was a time of great advancement and atrocities. Japan also had camps, and experimented on and killed people from other countries like China. I can understand being ashamed of and not wanting to talk about your ancestors negative actions, like I said earlier, I'm english and my ancestors would've lived here during the empire, we were involved in the slave trade, our missionaries erased cultures across the world in making people act more like us in exchange for aid, we committed acts of genocide in invading and replacing native peoples. But i think its something that needs to be talked about. You can't have good international and intercultural relations unless you understand how places around the world now may still be experiencing the negative impacts caused in part by the greed of our own countries. It's something we all have to own up to in order to work together to compensate and prevent these things from happening again, I think.
(I'm fully aware we haven't compensated for what we've done before anyone replies about that, but we should return what we've taken.)
Did you learn in school that British, French and German troops killed Afghans to protect America's puny pride?
The cadence of the nuclear bomb portion is funny. I laugh every time just because of how silly the presentation is
Wow she really didn't know? This is a striking difference in approach from how Germany has dealt with their history.
2:25 he was talking about rice farming, which means he wasn't talking about the population but the rice farms. so yeah places he highlighted were farm kingdoms not lands populated by people. other land were also populated by people just not rice farmland.
Honestly I don't even blame the Japanese for this level of ignorance about their recent history. It was the Americans that covered it up for them, and even kept the same politicians in power after the war.
"Japan ..is a bad guy" 😂 her reaction was adorable
I was like... Wait, this guy seems to be Brazilian. And then yeah he's Brazilian for sure
The early history of Japan is kind of confusing, but the Jomon people are actually not that close to Mongolians. They're close to the Ainu people. Yayoi are closest to Koreans but also related to Mongolians. Apparently our ancestors are about 90% Yayoi and 10% Jomon so Japanese are all mostly Yayoi. And the researcher Takeuchi and others did a genetic study recently that showed Japanese are by far closest to Koreans first, and Chinese a distant second. Koreans and Japanese are both closer to Mongolians than Chinese.
It blows my mind she didn't know Japan and Nazi Germany were allies.
Back then, when this video first came out, the annotation feature was a thing. When it got to WWII and the conquering of China, Bill Wurtz didn't forget to include "and a lot of raping" when he talked about it. It's kind of sad that people forget that during WWII, the Chinese took a heavy toll when it came to Nanking.
日本人としても第二次世界大戦中に旧日本軍の行った残虐行為は見過ごせません。南京事件や慰安婦問題で日本の政治家がごまかして有耶無耶にしているのを見ていると本当に見苦しく、同じ日本人として恥ずかしいです。学校で子どもたちが理解出来るくらいの日本の過去の過ちを教えるべきだと思います。
南京の写真を見ていると、隣の子供の声がした。その瞬間、「日本人は平和に暮らしている今、それら南京の悪いことをどれだけ覚えるだろうか？彼らは失敗から本当に習いましたか？」と思っていた。
しかし、ぼくの国の罪を考えると、アメリカ人は色々な悪いことを忘れがちです。そうだけど、アメリカは人数も多くて、アメリカの悪い点について声を上げる人がいるし、少し直せるだろう。
残念ながら、日本ではそのような会話があまり少ないしまうと思います。
there's a really good historical drama movie called silence (2016) about some christian priests in japan in the 17th century. the cinematography is amazing.
Buddisam was born in India
You said how tiny Japan should conquer many islands in wwi. The UK is smaller than Japan, and the uk has conquered more of the planet than any other country.
To clarify the confusion about WWII and the islands that used to belong to Germany, Germy at that time really didn't care about those islands. In fact, is was actually better for them to not control the islands because they didn't have to spread out their military half-way across the world to get access to not a lot of resources. England didn't care about the islands either for the same reasons. The islands didn't matter to pretty much anyone other than the people living there. Therefore, the islands didn't matter. Japan said they were friends with the Nazis and the Nazis were taking over Europe. Therefore, Japan bad. There ya go.
You should do a reaction video to “the fallen of World War II” it’s a really interesting video
how the hell did she not know that japan was a key ally of the Nazis lmao?
After going to japanese museums im not surprised by how little they know about theiractions during wwii.
It’s interesting how Japan and Germany teach ww2 history so completely differently. I think it’s because the nazi party was defeated outright and disassembled, while japans imperial government continues to this day. So Germany goes “don’t do what those guys did, our country really messed up.” But Japan goes “what?? we didn’t mess up, Japan is awesome. We’ve always been awesome!”
Germans learned nothing from World War 2. What are you talking about? Japan has been far more peaceful and less imperialistic than Germany.
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She was too confident about being able to identify Japanese, Chinese and Korean faces but contradicts herself saying she has more of a Mongol face. It's in your own history that essentially these 3 nations intermingled. If you go by faces alone, keeping everything the same such as make up and all wearing the same clothes, you would have a difficult time picking out people. It's easy to identify once someone starts talking or perhaps due to their fashion sense and mannerisms but until that happens, no you cannot be completely certain what nationality someone is.
the title should be "completely clueless Japanese girl learns her own country's history for the very first time"
As a German, I can't exactly say that I can blame the Japanese for not wanting to talk about it. If you are traveling in Germany's more modern cities these days, you will notice how little German culture and language is left. You grow up with generations of white people with an enormous hatred towards your country, because you are constantly beaten up 24 hours a day, how bad you were and that you should apologize until the end of your life.
But the winners don't have to grapple with their story.
What were Britain's crimes in the colonial days? or America during slavery? China is also doing it with the Uyghurs? So why should you apologize to them? They're doing the same thing today, just with Muslims who haven't even declared war on them. This double standard has led to the fact that many Germans hate their country and their origin today and it has also brought nothing. We currently have a boom in right-wing extremist parties all over Europe, also in Germany with the AFD and the third way, as well as the NPD, which by the way has existed since the late 1960s.
So who cares? If its good for your inner peace, alright, apologize, but dont do the same shit afterwards and expect we have to understand you. Right USA with racism torwards black people or China against your muslim minority or Britian for not existing apologize to your former colonies and mass murder. We all have bad sides, but this continously apologizing doesn't make sence anymore, if right wingers take place in all of europe again and also the dead can not come to life again from your apologize. It's good to remember, but it has its limits.
Korea influenced to Japan in ancient history was still diminished in this video. And 16 century Japan invade Korea but finally failed cause navy commandos ‘Lee Soon Shin’ destroyed Japanese supply route in ocean. It is missing. Japan killed Korean queen and eat Korea for 36 years and killed so many innocent civilians and stoled Korean National treasures during WW2. They never apologize what they did in Korea and never teach about their darkness history to their young generation. Their economy was grown by Korean War and Vietnamese war. Also 30 years lost of economy development make them Japan become 3rd world country again. They still use fax machine and CD. Credit card is not prefer to use buying stuff.
So Germany teaches what they did wrong in WW2 while Japan ignores WW2. Now teach her about Japan’s infamous Unit 731 and what Japanese troops did in China.
The odds of encountering a typhoon grows exponentially if you choose to invade during typhoon season. Which the Mongols did. Twice.
When she mentioned Yakuza @ 6:39 i'm thinking to myself that some of them might actually be descendants of former Samurai who possibly fell on hard times after the Meiji Restoration 🤔😮
Edit: Her shock at the fact that Japan had sided with the Nazis genuinely caught me off guard.. from what I gather, Japan, Italy & Germany wanted some of that old school conquest like what Europe was doing back in the 1800's. Due to the agreement signed by the league of nations, which likely spurred on by the social changes that came with the abolition of slavery, as well as the fact that there was hardly any more land to conquer, the League of Nations had settled on the agreed borders & promised not to expand anymore. Italy was not having it, as they were busy expanding into Ethiopia, & Japan's Emperors had just gotten back their power along with some modern muscle so they really wanted to flex.. like really really. Germany wanted to conquer the whole world so they all teamed up despite the alliance seeming unlikely🙏
I would love to se her reaction on discouvering the details of what japan did in the WW2 like in Nanjing.
As a Japanese, I can't stand it, so I would like to add something about school education in Japan
Sino-Japanese War, Russo-Japanese War, World War I, World War II, and then defeat.
The history from postwar reconstruction to the present day is taught to all Japanese who go to school normally by junior high school.
Japan was an Axis country along with Germany and Italy.
The surprise attack on Pearl Harbor
You will learn it in junior high school.
I wonder how many Japanese people knew that Japan once invaded Korea. It's shocked me that she didn't know about it.
MONGOLIAN JAPANESE FEATURES ????
nnonono . koreans are related to mongolia . there are japanese that have korean " mongolian" features . kekeke
Further, recent population genetic studies reveal that modern and share as much as a 90 percent overlap in ancestry.
You may find it interesting reading medical journals about Leukemia patients. A Korean leukemia patient can only accept donors from 2 other countries....Mongolia and Japan.
i don't blame most of the modern Japanese for not knowing of some of the past, i just blame the higher ups in Japan's education system.
She needs to react to that one video about japanese people speaking an "ancient" japanese that sounded more like *cough cough* cantonese.
Should be noted that in the past few decades the Japanese government encountered backlash from the international history community (primarily China and South Korea) for publishing and school textbooks that either don’t review the international tragedies Japan committed or gloss over them in a unbalanced way or incorrectly. I’ve spoken with Japanese adults about the tragedies Japan committed against Korea (comfort women, etc.), and many believe that Korea fully supported Japan’s invasion and that Korea and the comfort women supported the Japanese rule…some of the Japanese adults also explain that the Rape of Nanjing is a lie created by the Chinese…
If im not mistaken "petroglyphs" is what comes evolutionary, after hieroglyphs (the icon/picture based writign system) petroglyphs is what kunai-form the writing system of the sumerians and akkadians used.
~And the japanese used actually oddly similar (to sumerian) petroglyphs before they adapted chinese.
Perfect example of how the common Japanese person doesn't know much, if anything, about modern Japanese history.
Sorry don't take offense to this, but how could you not know that Japan took over Korea? Thats why so many Koreans dislike the Japanese right now. Like you know about the atomic bomb attack on Japan, but did you know more people died in Japans take over of Korea than both of those bombs....
Japan was connected to Korean peninsular, not with 'China island'
Bill Wurtz simplified a lot, and mistakenly attributed a lot of Meiji reform to US.
In fact:
- Meiji's constitution is written in consultation with Hermann Roesler - a German diplomat, which is why their parliament is a "diet" that gets consulted in a very centralised government, unlike US/UK's dysfunctional government. It is very Germanic
- Meiji modernisation is helped by UK and France - western side (Kansai to Kyushu) are all UK, eastern side (Kansai to Hokkaido) are French, hence that power frequency and some rail gauge division
- After World War 2, the US helped to change all of that, and forced Japan to adopt its constitution more, so modern day Japanese PMs are not as overpowering to the parliament like Hideki Tojo or his predecessor Fumimaro Konoe
Why Japan wants to invade its neighbours?
Hideyoshi's years / Sengoku period:
- Shogun cannot be a Tenno (Emperor), since they are not descendants of Sun Kami or member of Yamato dynasty, but as Kub'lai Khan shown, anyone can be Chinese Emperor, which in that period of East Asia, sounds much cooler than being Japanese Emperor, so he tried his luck against Ming China, since Hideyoshi think that all the united Sengoku Jidai's veterans are more battle-hardened than Ming's virgin soldiers
- It created a chaos after Hideyoshi's death, that powerful army is leaderless
- The entire Sengoku Jidai is finally concluded after Tokugawa Ieyasu won the Battle of Sekigahara
- Tokugawa's British advisor (William Adams / Miura Anjin) and his think tank of Ruguanist (Neo-Confucian) scholars advised him to adopt sakoku, which is also practiced by Ming China after the death of Yongle Emperor and post-Zheng He's grand expeditions, adding another thing Japan copied from China
- No country can trade with Japan except 5: Dutch (from Dejima / Nagasaki), China, Korea, Ezo (Hokkaido), and Ryukyu. The Portuguese is banned because they tried to spread Catholicism, Spain is the same - and both of them refused to step on the picture of Mother Mary
- In order to keep the "warriors" from marrauding and go to war with each other, they are solved using Confucian society: organised into a clan / caste / social class - poor but honoured; own land including the peasants that give them plenty of harvest, but not money. Conservely, merchants, the richest social class are the least honoured - their cases are not as prioritised in Imperial court than samurai or farmers or artisan classes
Meiji period:
- It is not exactly "western" per se, since before industrialisation, they are not as Imperialist.
- Industrialisation of Japan requires it to go beyond self-sufficiency and look for more resources, and securing resources requires army, and powerful army faction within government is a threat if their bloodlust isn't directed elsewhere (they tend to see flaws / criticism as a cause to coup)
- Japan invaded Korea anyway, and then China, and the rest of the small islands for whatever resources they can extract
Why Japan ally with bad guys?
- No choice, Japan is actually good friends with USA. President Teddy Roosevelt is kind of a weeaboo at his time, a lot of Japanese officials studied in US (e.g. Admiral Yamamoto)
- Japan is also the "modernist teacher" of Republican China - Sun Yat-sen to Chiang Kai-sek are all educated by Japanese school of thought in Asian nationalism. A lot of modern Mandarin Chinese terms like education institutions are borrowed from Japanese.
The odds of mongols being defeated by a tornado twice = 100%..... because monsoon season
always laugh when Mussolini is mentioned in wwii reaction because he seems to be over looked all the time.
"so hitler and japan were friends?"
"yeah, see here. nazi's and Mussolini."
"who is Mussolini?"
To be honest Mussolini and Italy were not so important during the WWII, Italy joined the war only because Mussolini thought that Hitler would certainly win in a short time (Wermacht was by far the best army in the world). He said "I only need a few thousand dead so that I can sit at the peace conference as a man who has fought". Before that he stayed out, making up a lot of excuse and asking Hitler for a lot of resources to join the war that Hitler could never give him. Mussoini didn't want the war, he was angry as hell with Hitler when he invaded the Poland. Before the invasion everybody tried to avoid the war, including Mussolini. When Hitler invaded Poland, Mussolini was trying to organize another meeting such as the one that led to the Munich Agreement.
The Italian army was too weak for a war, the Italian economy too shitty etc.
And if Hitler hadn't decided to invade the Soviet Union, marking his doom, Mussolini would probably have been right.
When Italy understood that Hitler would lose, they arrested Mussolini, signed the armistice and fought - with some divisions - alongside the Allies.
In Italy we say "It matter like the 2 of batons with cups as briscola" (briscola is a card game and the "2 of batons with cups as briscola" is one of the 3 cards with the lowest value, it basically means it counts for nothing), so was Italy during the WWII. Mussolini was slighty more than a Hitler puppet during the WWII. The Italian contribution is almost negligible in the international contest.
I think Mussolini was the worst leader of all time, Fascism is the lighter, but much more stupid and incompetent version of Nazism. Fascism was a bad government from every point of view. Violent, authoritarian, totalitarian, racist, dictatorial and populist, like Nazism (albeit softer), but Nazism transformed a nation in crisis into a great and powerful nation, fascism transformed a nation in crisis into a nation even more in crisis. In few words, Mussolini was only an incompetent prick with a great social media manager.
The tornadoes that killed the Mongols were called Kamikaze (“divine wind”).
Damn they really not gonna talk about Nanjing Massacre and they also not gonna talk about Unit 731 and they're definitely not talking about the Fugu Plan 😭
Wait till she finds out about
U n i t 7 3 1 🥶
he had some nerves laughing at the bomb thing tho
I'm British and the way we learned around WW2 to WW1 was the Anglo-Japanese alliance broke down due to American interference due to America promising help if Britiain had any war since the British and Japanese Navies combined worried American leaders.
America was also very racist, especially woodrow wilson and brown people getting military power was as scary to them as black people using the same toilet as whites so it was a priority weakening Japan so trade embargos started to keep Japan weak in the best case scenario and have them do something silly that would cause a UK/US joint effort to bring them into line or Russia/Japan war to weaken both the brownies and Ruskies.
Due to UK trusting more the "special friendship" and goodwill from ww1 they UK got closer with the US and Japan having its own imperial ambitions + defence worries with Russia wanting the islands back it lost helped bring the Japan/Germany/Italy agreement.
Plus being slightly fair the Japanese upper leadership leading to Unit 731 actions was starting to come to the surface.
Japan helped Nazi Germany due to their agreement of necessity and ambitions distract The Royal Navy attacking Singapore and other Pacific interests they wanted themselves.
American happy everyone else was fighting wanted to happily profit from the alliance by taking the nuclear research and other things while signing heavily marked up lend lease out dated equipment and food to "support" the UK, this was paid off fully in 2006, US buisnesses profited supporting the Nazi side and the US government refused to honor its agreement properly with rerurning the nuclear research to France and the UK.
It wasn't a tornado. It was a big storm both times. Probably a typhoon.
Americans tend to get confused about 'Perry' since we have two famous ones who were both in the Navy and were both commodores. Oliver Hazard Perry is famous for fighting on the Great Lakes against the British in the War of 1812. And his younger brother Matthew C. Perry who opened Japan to the West.
There is also the Admiral Perry who explored the north and south poles, he gets mixed up with these two sometimes as well
so strange that is whole video is a news flash to her...my mind is blown.
Most shocking was that she didn't know Nazi Germany and Japan entered an alliance. Makes you wonder how the prelude to WW2 is explained in Japan. What are they told as to why the USA nuked them?
The selective teaching also happens in the US, although maybe not to the same degree. Some parts of the country teach that our Civil War had nothing to do with our slavery and we ignore a lot of the atrocities committed to natives as well as Chinese and Japanese immigrants who built our entire infrastructure.
It's not funny when Americans drop the bombs, but WWII was also not funny for the 300,000 Chinese victims of Nanking massacre, which is somewhat more than the two bombs combined casualties. Does she knows anything about Nanking?