I agree with your last point, i.e. not every photo needs to tell a story. However, I don't think great photos need to make you asks questions. It's all very subjective. Not really sure what a great photo is to be honest. So many acclaimed images from the old master, Meyerowitz and co., look like random snapshots to me. For me, the best photo of the ones you show in the widow is the pigeon taking flight. 🤷
I agree that the pigeon image was my favourite. The patches on the wall below the pigeon also looked like an abstract of another bird. I thought that was the reason why you took the photo.
EXCELLENT!!! about time someone address this issue of boring yettech good street imsges as the social media reinforces the boring technique. inly thing I would add is touching on the power lines or structures in telling the story. again I love it !
Mate, I have the utmost respect for you because your smart, dedicated and hard working. So what I'm about to say comes from a place of love, respect and personal experience. Rest! You look visibly exhausted. Great video as always. Hope you are at peace and fulfillment 🙏🥰
Not sure if I would distinguish like this between good and great photos but I like it indeed when a photo makes me ask questions. I don’t think, however, that a single photo can really tell a story.
Thank you Roman, this was a great topic. Although I enjoy many YT channels, I really only listen to you and Eren on ideas to improve my photo game. As I am now in my second year taking photos, I am trying to improve my composition. I am shooting in monochrome, so I can only see in B&W through the viewfinder. This is actually much harder, but I am paying more attention to light, tone and shapes. As far as "good vs great" images go, I only ever shoot to please myself. If other people like my images - fantastic and thank you! Each year, I will make a book of my favourite images of that year, two from each month. I try to see if I can notice any improvement in my photography over that 12 month period. I always value your videos thank you and keep rocking on. Cheers, Peter.
Solid comments, solid arguments. Excellent video. IMO you didn't give the photo of the sunbathing woman the credits it deserves cause the DoF is great, the blue of the chair and sky are nice in contrast with the red on her toe nails. The jewellery (rings) on her fingers give a nice break to the symmetry of the fingers. adding that to the feelings it will arouse an overall a great shot. And I thank you for sharing
The good vs great definition is a funny one. I've had people really react to images of mine that I personally wasn't very impressed with. Likewise I'll feel I've got a real banger on my hands and not had much reaction at all (IRL not social). It's subjective and difficult to apply a metric to. I've also very rarely successfully planned and executed a great shot so you're kinda pissing in the wind trying to define one. I do like that "a great photo should be a cliffhanger" thought though...
@@Pspet At the end of the day, the photos are to be shown to a wide audience, including (and especially) non photographers. So non- photographers' opinions/reactions matter a lot.
@@Pspet I'm just a hobbyist and definitely value the opinion of other photographers but I'm not sure professionals are that bothered and are quite likely solely concerned with the opinions of non-photographers. You could even make quite a strong argument that there is more value in the instinctive, raw reaction of an untrained eye...
The dog throwing photo evokes the famous 1995 Patagonia catalog photo by Greg Epperson where a rock climber is throwing a baby for her husband to catch. Definitely look it up if you aren't familiar with it.
I think I might have to disagree for a very simple reason. just because I did not ask questions in the first part of the video doesn't take away anything from the photos, some of them were great and vice versa, I did have questions but did not necessarily think of the photos as great or interesting. I preferred more photos from the "good" section, that is not to say "don't put a story in your photos" but questions alone don't make a photo great, the visual is just as important. thanks for the video!
Good photos have at least one of the following: * Interesting composition * Interesting subject * Interesting light * Interesting story A great photo has all of them.
Una buona foto deve raccontare deve dare emozione a chi la guarda che si tratti di un paesaggio di persone o cose . La fotografia permette di fermare il tempo ( prima della fotografia erano i pittori) le foto sono i nostri ricordi , saper vedere quello che gli non vedono e se anche non sono perfette come le mie va bene lo stesso . Bel video ciao .
I think the distinction I would make is: you showed technically great good photos, then you showed technically good great photos. So they were all great and good but in different ways.
Obviously "greatness" of photo is pretty subjective as any story - emotional triggers are pretty different for different people (for instance - I personally saw no greatness in photo with sheep, but photo from metro or with pigeon seems excellent for me). The question is - should be "story" behind any great photo or not? Throwing dogs photo creates emotion for You and Your friends, because You where there and photo rises memories, but are much less emotional for people, who was not participants of that event... In same time - some of pictures You called "good", for me seems great, because story behind them are universal..... Ufff...complicated....like any discussion about art :D
Great points made in this video, however I wouldn't exactly categorize the distinction you made between the two type of images "good" and "great". They are simply different, one is esthetically pleasing to look at the other tells a story. I personally prefer the first type, when the image is pleasing to the eye in a balanced harmony. The story telling type photos are just too messy for me to look at most of the time. I prefer when art evokes peace in me not unrest.
Easy question. Great photos are taken with Leicas. Good photos are taken by all the others… well at least that’s the impression I get when I look at my RUclips feed most days.
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The thing I like about the Margate shot is the dog that is up next, the way he is almost leaning backwards cracks me up.
Roman, you are a great story teller and that combined with your photography creativity makes your videos very watchable. Have a great weekend.
Thanks Roman, your beach photo reminded me of Martin Parrs beach photos - nice one
I agree with your last point, i.e. not every photo needs to tell a story. However, I don't think great photos need to make you asks questions. It's all very subjective. Not really sure what a great photo is to be honest. So many acclaimed images from the old master, Meyerowitz and co., look like random snapshots to me.
For me, the best photo of the ones you show in the widow is the pigeon taking flight. 🤷
I agree that the pigeon image was my favourite. The patches on the wall below the pigeon also looked like an abstract of another bird. I thought that was the reason why you took the photo.
Often you don't know why you like something. Thanks for your thoughts on good and great photos. I learned something again. 🤗
EXCELLENT!!! about time someone address this issue of boring yettech good street imsges as the social media reinforces the boring technique. inly thing I would add is touching on the power lines or structures in telling the story. again I love it !
I really enjoyed this short video of you and like and agree to the definition of a good vs. great photo.
Mate, I have the utmost respect for you because your smart, dedicated and hard working. So what I'm about to say comes from a place of love, respect and personal experience. Rest! You look visibly exhausted. Great video as always. Hope you are at peace and fulfillment 🙏🥰
No argument what-so-ever. Short, sweet, and to the point.
Not sure if I would distinguish like this between good and great photos but I like it indeed when a photo makes me ask questions. I don’t think, however, that a single photo can really tell a story.
Thank you Roman, this was a great topic. Although I enjoy many YT channels, I really only listen to you and Eren on ideas to improve my photo game. As I am now in my second year taking photos, I am trying to improve my composition. I am shooting in monochrome, so I can only see in B&W through the viewfinder. This is actually much harder, but I am paying more attention to light, tone and shapes.
As far as "good vs great" images go, I only ever shoot to please myself. If other people like my images - fantastic and thank you!
Each year, I will make a book of my favourite images of that year, two from each month. I try to see if I can notice any improvement in my photography over that 12 month period.
I always value your videos thank you and keep rocking on. Cheers, Peter.
Ha! Oh man that dog throwing photo is truly great. Awesome video as always Roman!
Thanks for the video and the explanation. I’ll work on the story side of my photos now
Solid comments, solid arguments.
Excellent video.
IMO you didn't give the photo of the sunbathing woman the credits it deserves cause the DoF is great, the blue of the chair and sky are nice in contrast with the red on her toe nails.
The jewellery (rings) on her fingers give a nice break to the symmetry of the fingers. adding that to the feelings it will arouse an overall a great shot.
And I thank you for sharing
Thought provoking definitely, and hope to someday incorporate in my own shots.
everyone is chasing composition and light, but it's the EMOTIONS that really matter
Another useful video. Many thanks Roman.
I actually looove the pigeon photo, I’ve stopped to look at it multiple times
The good vs great definition is a funny one. I've had people really react to images of mine that I personally wasn't very impressed with. Likewise I'll feel I've got a real banger on my hands and not had much reaction at all (IRL not social). It's subjective and difficult to apply a metric to. I've also very rarely successfully planned and executed a great shot so you're kinda pissing in the wind trying to define one. I do like that "a great photo should be a cliffhanger" thought though...
You should never rely on non photographers to get opinions about photos
@@Pspet At the end of the day, the photos are to be shown to a wide audience, including (and especially) non photographers. So non- photographers' opinions/reactions matter a lot.
@@Pspet I'm just a hobbyist and definitely value the opinion of other photographers but I'm not sure professionals are that bothered and are quite likely solely concerned with the opinions of non-photographers. You could even make quite a strong argument that there is more value in the instinctive, raw reaction of an untrained eye...
The dog throwing photo evokes the famous 1995 Patagonia catalog photo by Greg Epperson where a rock climber is throwing a baby for her husband to catch. Definitely look it up if you aren't familiar with it.
I think I might have to disagree for a very simple reason. just because I did not ask questions in the first part of the video doesn't take away anything from the photos, some of them were great and vice versa, I did have questions but did not necessarily think of the photos as great or interesting. I preferred more photos from the "good" section, that is not to say "don't put a story in your photos" but questions alone don't make a photo great, the visual is just as important. thanks for the video!
Great video... or is it a good one... in any case, fantastic content.
Nice to see you more often, I don’t need to search for your name anymore to find the latest videos 🎉
great photos make you your heart say "oooo"
Good photos have at least one of the following:
* Interesting composition
* Interesting subject
* Interesting light
* Interesting story
A great photo has all of them.
Una buona foto deve raccontare
deve dare emozione a chi la guarda che si tratti di un paesaggio di persone o cose . La fotografia permette di fermare il tempo ( prima della fotografia erano i pittori) le foto sono i nostri ricordi , saper vedere quello che gli non vedono e se anche non sono perfette come le mie va bene lo stesso . Bel video ciao .
Great as always
Great video. Coincidentally, I just bought a book of Alex Webb photos, yesterday, and he has to be the master of photos that present questions.
Dislocations? That book is a deliberate collection of "question asking" photos.
@@StefanBeyer Yes! A lot of real puzzles with those. I can’t imagine how his brain works. Such interesting stuff.
I think the distinction I would make is: you showed technically great good photos, then you showed technically good great photos. So they were all great and good but in different ways.
brilliant video
Obviously "greatness" of photo is pretty subjective as any story - emotional triggers are pretty different for different people (for instance - I personally saw no greatness in photo with sheep, but photo from metro or with pigeon seems excellent for me). The question is - should be "story" behind any great photo or not? Throwing dogs photo creates emotion for You and Your friends, because You where there and photo rises memories, but are much less emotional for people, who was not participants of that event... In same time - some of pictures You called "good", for me seems great, because story behind them are universal..... Ufff...complicated....like any discussion about art :D
Explained very well, Roman. I'll add my little bit... A great photo has most likely broken the so called rules.
Did they make it did the dog make it? No
NOOO?! THEY DIED?!! 7:02
Great points made in this video, however I wouldn't exactly categorize the distinction you made between the two type of images "good" and "great". They are simply different, one is esthetically pleasing to look at the other tells a story. I personally prefer the first type, when the image is pleasing to the eye in a balanced harmony. The story telling type photos are just too messy for me to look at most of the time. I prefer when art evokes peace in me not unrest.
Put your car key down mate 😂
I'd call the "great" photo a "cool" photo, imo a Great photo is a photo where you have a photo that's both good and great/cool
There wouldn’t be great without good.
Mate, I love your content but please just stop holding the microphone and put it on yourself.
Highly subjective topic…
No comments from me..
All Photographers should be narcissists… take pictures that pleases YOU… the rest is the rest…
Easy question. Great photos are taken with Leicas. Good photos are taken by all the others… well at least that’s the impression I get when I look at my RUclips feed most days.