I had it. Leaked oil, ZWO replaced it. Then, cooler is gone. They replaced it again, I rid of it. By the way, Fan inside camera was vibrating as well. You will not see vibration effect on tiny low end scopes, but it will have pronounced negative effect on high quality scopes and long FL scopes. Moravian version is better. You could ask Teledyne or FLI to review their products. Maybe they will agree; you never know.
I have it and I love it. I use refractors/Newtonians up to 1000mm and it produces beautiful images. I don’t see any fan vibrations at all. It’s definitely an upgrade from the ZWO ASI071 that I had before. The noise level is so low that at -20C the histograms of a bias frame at 0.001s exposure, and a dark frame at 180s exposure, look identical, it’s incredible.
@@psegre What happened with my response? ZWO removed it or you? So, did you watch about vibration in camera? Did you read comments? Did you look at your pictures with and without cooler on?
@@MrPedalpaddle Cameras, especially planetary and guiding, are Okish, work, show some pictures. Generally, everyone who sold ZWO products and upgraded were happier. ZWO is plug and play type of equipment. Many people like it. I more like reliability, quality and high end specs. Importantly, products should perform according to these specs.
Nice review. I have the 2600MC and 2600MM, both are excellent cameras. I decided to go 2" on all my imaging rigs from the outset, it does cost more initially but saves buying twice if you get a full frame camera in the future.
Actually non zwo can be used together with a mini pc mounted on the scope and controlled from the comfort of your living room, no need for external laptop's anymore 😊 Enjoyed your review 👍
I would have been proud to call those first few images (that you did not like) as my own, but I guess I am just starting my astrophotography "journey" and will learn to improve.
I've had this camera for a few years now and it's been my go to camera. One issue with any ZWO camera and the longer focal lengths (1000+mm) is vibration in the fan causing oblong stars.
I've heard about it a few times recently but never observed it with my 2600mc (1000mm). The fan is not attached directly, but by rubber fasteners. Holding the camera in your hands with the fan turned on, you don't feel any vibration.
There is a small rare set of these 2600MC pros that have vibration issues. it's really rare, but it's good that you found that out. There is a thread or two about that on cloudynights and they changed their fans to solve the issue. you could also order the same stock fan from ZWO and that will likely solve the issue. The only other thing to worry about is the thermal pad for the sensor can leak oil, so I always store this camera upside down with the sensor facing up when I place it in the bag. I've never had an issue with the oil leakage this way.
I don't have the 2600MC Pro but do have the 2600MM Pro. I definitely love this camera and sensor the detail you can capture is amazing, I just need some more clear nights given that I got it in January and I've used it about 3 times so far! A great video and review, nicely produced and full of information, thanks!
Details will be better with small pixels. For example, 294mm. Right? Maybe you like sensitivity or sensor size, but for resolution it is not the best camera.
I have 2600 mc for a year and a half now. It's just great. I have two sets with which I go out of town (because I live in Bortle 9 city). I use one with 2600mc, the other with canon 600d. The difference is huge. I'm saving money for a second camera. I't will never end, right? :) A lot of people complain about oil leaks. From what I've asked those who have this problem were using the camera's built-in dew heater. So I didn't use it at all. No oil leaks so far.
That doesnt make any sense - dew heater is completely off the chip, its under the mounting plate, heating the chamber very firmly, so I really doubt anything to do with the oil leak.
@@AstroAddict I found it way easier to process. No gradients and absolute no light pollution. Signal is so much stronger too. Just import stack and then stretch. Very little cleaning is needed. I seem to agonize for hours over OSC images but my narrowband stuff is supper simple.
Nice review. I really like the format, leaving the specs to Google and focusing on the use cases. But one quibble: the alternative to an ASI Air is not only a laptop. A mini-PC and power box can serve the same function. Perhaps not as easy to use as an ASI Air, but it gives flexibility in software (e.g., NINA, Firecapture, etc.) and non-ZWO cameras. (I'm not dissing the ASI Air, only pointing out that there is an equivalent alternative.)
It's been around for quite some time and has produced spectacular images. Although it initiated with some caveats, hopefully, all is good now. I have one, by the way.
how would you compare the 2600MC Pro with the 294MC Pro - especially for larger (130mm f5.6-7 APO) - I'm concerned about oversampling with smaller pixels!
One simple question, why a deep sky oriented color camera has an IR cut protection glass in front of the sensor? Doesn't this limit the nebulas pictures as you showed in the video?
The IR cut filters for deep sky are not the same cut filters as in DSLR's. They have a steeper cutoff after 656nm to include Ha, but cut the rest of the IR
I can use every camera that comes with ASCOM drivers with a scope pc, so I am not limited to ZWO cams: I use Alpaca remote server and so everything runs remotely without any issues.
Good video and explanations, do you think this camera works well with a Celestron C8 with focal reducer? With a distance of 1270mm would it have oversampling? Thanks and greetings from Uruguay
Hello @AstroAddict I just got this camera and had some issues with it giving me "exposure failure" error message! was wondering if you have encountered that? thx
2:00 minutes in, "You have to use a 2" filter for this camera." Now you tell me! LOL! I kinda like the circular frame to my images. Round Telescopes, Square sensors. What is wrong with this picture? So now I need addional filter wheels and filters. Smooth move ZWO. Sells equipment. Not laughing anymore.
I made a test yesterday for this fan-vibration on my 2600mc (with "only" 850mm) -> no difference (at 55% cooling power, if this makes any difference at the speed of the fan)
Do you have a ASi2600MC? Share your experiences right here!
I had it. Leaked oil, ZWO replaced it. Then, cooler is gone. They replaced it again, I rid of it. By the way, Fan inside camera was vibrating as well.
You will not see vibration effect on tiny low end scopes, but it will have pronounced negative effect on high quality scopes and long FL scopes.
Moravian version is better. You could ask Teledyne or FLI to review their products. Maybe they will agree; you never know.
I have it and I love it. I use refractors/Newtonians up to 1000mm and it produces beautiful images. I don’t see any fan vibrations at all. It’s definitely an upgrade from the ZWO ASI071 that I had before. The noise level is so low that at -20C the histograms of a bias frame at 0.001s exposure, and a dark frame at 180s exposure, look identical, it’s incredible.
@@psegre What happened with my response? ZWO removed it or you? So, did you watch about vibration in camera? Did you read comments? Did you look at your pictures with and without cooler on?
@@anata5127 Ana, are there any ZWO products you like?
@@MrPedalpaddle Cameras, especially planetary and guiding, are Okish, work, show some pictures.
Generally, everyone who sold ZWO products and upgraded were happier. ZWO is plug and play type of equipment. Many people like it. I more like reliability, quality and high end specs. Importantly, products should perform according to these specs.
Nice review. I have the 2600MC and 2600MM, both are excellent cameras. I decided to go 2" on all my imaging rigs from the outset, it does cost more initially but saves buying twice if you get a full frame camera in the future.
True!
Actually non zwo can be used together with a mini pc mounted on the scope and controlled from the comfort of your living room, no need for external laptop's anymore 😊 Enjoyed your review 👍
I would have been proud to call those first few images (that you did not like) as my own, but I guess I am just starting my astrophotography "journey" and will learn to improve.
I've had this camera for a few years now and it's been my go to camera. One issue with any ZWO camera and the longer focal lengths (1000+mm) is vibration in the fan causing oblong stars.
I've heard about it a few times recently but never observed it with my 2600mc (1000mm). The fan is not attached directly, but by rubber fasteners. Holding the camera in your hands with the fan turned on, you don't feel any vibration.
Long focal length images always have bad stars. Tracking and seeing are more likely to be the culprits.
@@dominickzaucha Not necessarily. ruclips.net/video/3ZgyB5_Xfnc/видео.html
I will need to test that for myself, but I'm glad you like the camera!
There is a small rare set of these 2600MC pros that have vibration issues. it's really rare, but it's good that you found that out. There is a thread or two about that on cloudynights and they changed their fans to solve the issue. you could also order the same stock fan from ZWO and that will likely solve the issue. The only other thing to worry about is the thermal pad for the sensor can leak oil, so I always store this camera upside down with the sensor facing up when I place it in the bag. I've never had an issue with the oil leakage this way.
Thanks Tim, that sensor absolutely haunts me but in a good way. Clear skies!
The camera is awsome, i own it over a year now. Makes post-processing much easier. And: No oil-leak so far :)
I don't have the 2600MC Pro but do have the 2600MM Pro. I definitely love this camera and sensor the detail you can capture is amazing, I just need some more clear nights given that I got it in January and I've used it about 3 times so far! A great video and review, nicely produced and full of information, thanks!
Details will be better with small pixels. For example, 294mm. Right? Maybe you like sensitivity or sensor size, but for resolution it is not the best camera.
I have 2600 mc for a year and a half now. It's just great. I have two sets with which I go out of town (because I live in Bortle 9 city). I use one with 2600mc, the other with canon 600d. The difference is huge. I'm saving money for a second camera. I't will never end, right? :) A lot of people complain about oil leaks. From what I've asked those who have this problem were using the camera's built-in dew heater. So I didn't use it at all. No oil leaks so far.
That doesnt make any sense - dew heater is completely off the chip, its under the mounting plate, heating the chamber very firmly, so I really doubt anything to do with the oil leak.
@@bokvaj Yes it doesn't. I don't want't to jinx it though 😉
Awesome Video Tim! Only one little correction, the blob you mentioned as IFN actually is a small Galaxy named Holmberg IX. Clear Skies
Snap, you are right! I didn't know that. Very cool!
Amazing video, love watching your content.
Thanks for the informative video 👍🏻
Tim on the tecnosky you can fit a 2” filter into the camera rotator
I know, thanks. But I don't like it
People need to use narrowband more often even for galaxies. there is a lot more you can do with them than most think.
True! But it's way harder. Not that I would know, after 40 hours of HaRGB on M31 :D
@@AstroAddict I found it way easier to process. No gradients and absolute no light pollution. Signal is so much stronger too. Just import stack and then stretch. Very little cleaning is needed. I seem to agonize for hours over OSC images but my narrowband stuff is supper simple.
Nice review. I really like the format, leaving the specs to Google and focusing on the use cases. But one quibble: the alternative to an ASI Air is not only a laptop. A mini-PC and power box can serve the same function. Perhaps not as easy to use as an ASI Air, but it gives flexibility in software (e.g., NINA, Firecapture, etc.) and non-ZWO cameras. (I'm not dissing the ASI Air, only pointing out that there is an equivalent alternative.)
True, but I can't comment on that, I never used a mini pc solution
It's been around for quite some time and has produced spectacular images. Although it initiated with some caveats, hopefully, all is good now. I have one, by the way.
@Laid-Back Observatory What were those caveats ?
@@siegfriednoet the oil thermal pad oil leak issue. But ZWO sorted it out from what I underatand.
@@laidbackobs Thanks, didn't know that. I have been using one since it first came out, had no problems, maybe I was lucky than
how would you compare the 2600MC Pro with the 294MC Pro - especially for larger (130mm f5.6-7 APO) - I'm concerned about oversampling with smaller pixels!
You can check if your system is oversampling with the Bintel Astronomy Calculator, that's what I always use when researching new equipment
One simple question, why a deep sky oriented color camera has an IR cut protection glass in front of the sensor? Doesn't this limit the nebulas pictures as you showed in the video?
The IR cut filters for deep sky are not the same cut filters as in DSLR's. They have a steeper cutoff after 656nm to include Ha, but cut the rest of the IR
I can use every camera that comes with ASCOM drivers with a scope pc, so I am not limited to ZWO cams: I use Alpaca remote server and so everything runs remotely without any issues.
Interesting, I will look into that
@@AstroAddict I wrote an article about my setup in the EAA forum of cloudynights. Search for „riding the alpaca“
Good video and explanations, do you think this camera works well with a Celestron C8 with focal reducer? With a distance of 1270mm would it have oversampling?
Thanks and greetings from Uruguay
I tested your plan in the bintel calculator, adn it said 'slight oversampling'. You should be fine!
Nice video/editing and nice pictures 😊 Where’s the result of the 40h mosaic of Andromeda that you mentioned at the end of the video? 😬
Cs
Mani
That'll be a future video :D
Hello @AstroAddict I just got this camera and had some issues with it giving me "exposure failure" error message! was wondering if you have encountered that? thx
What setup/software are you using?
@@AstroAddict I use it with ASIAIR Plus on AM5 powered by Jackery battery
No, I did not encounter that error yet. Guess you have to crawl through some forums
There are web sites, where you could calculate required filter size for each sensor. This sensor needs at least 36mm filter.
What about powering the cam with the asi air? is it possible or do we need an external power device?
It's possible
HI! I wanted to switch from the full spectrum canon to the Asi 2600, but I don't know if it's worth spending so much money...
If you decide that Astrophotography is the one hobby for you and you want to keep going for the next 10 years, then yes, it's worth it
So, it’s not the new DUO version?
No, that'll come up in the future
Is anyone using this camera with a Samyang 135mm? Just wondering how well that works. Cheers
2:00 minutes in, "You have to use a 2" filter for this camera." Now you tell me! LOL! I kinda like the circular frame to my images. Round Telescopes, Square sensors. What is wrong with this picture?
So now I need addional filter wheels and filters. Smooth move ZWO. Sells equipment. Not laughing anymore.
How was you situation with the oil leak and fan vibration causing oval stars at 1200+mm focal lengths?
I made a test yesterday for this fan-vibration on my 2600mc (with "only" 850mm) -> no difference (at 55% cooling power, if this makes any difference at the speed of the fan)
Sady, I did not get a chance to test this camera at 1200+mm. But no oil leaks so far