Putting Tommy’s in bottom tier is a crime, especially because it’s catalyst makes it scorch on hit, so it’s basically free ignitions, and the self damage is basically negated when using restoration
Lodbrock is really good with target lock and 4th times the charm… some 360’s are good, most are junk. Age Old Bond with repulser brace and destabilizing rounds is going to be an awesome choice for PVE void builds, especially this season with the void mods…
Ridiculous with arc Titan and actium, mows through low end content like it’s no one’s business. However I don’t think it has the chops to hang with the big dogs in master+ content
I gotta go with this as well. Every time I try to swap it out to open up an exotic slot, maybe to put Briggins law in there with volt shot I have fun, but then I go back. This thing is a beast but you have to have the catalyst absolutely. Sprinting to reload is such an awesome effect. And with the catalyst you’re always charged. I do love it but obviously I’ve been missing out on a few weapons that I need to give a try
Tommy and reckless oracle are actually pretty good, if you build into restoration, tommy won't keep you in red health, reckless oracle has demo and is one of the only void auto rifles in rifle in a good archetype that isn't sunset.
I am reckless Tommy fan and with recent buffs it turned into my go to ignitions weapon. It was fun, now its even pretty darn good! Also its quite unstabally fun in pvp with right void devour setup
Krait with Amplified Mag + Overflow + Backup Mag is hilarious You can get 144 bullets in a single mag, and it gets even dumber when Veist Stinger procs And even if you don't proc Overflow you still having a 72 round mag Truly one of the Auto Rifles of all time
He also put Reckless Oracle into F Tier, because "it's a 360" when it's literally not. So unless this was a parody video, I don't know what it was meant to be...
I would probably place Tommy's more in maybe that being said I can understand why it would be placed in garbage since it REQUIRES you to build around its shortcomings
@@Gildedbolt garbage means its unusable in any circumstances though. Tommy is usable, and if you are lazy just put devour and it will work like a charm for add clear up to majors
I prefer Rewind Rounds over Reconstruction on primaries. Reconstruction is great on special and power weapons you aren't using all the time but for primaries(and traces) that you're constantly using reconstruction doesn't have time to work during the fights. Lmgs are different due to their huge mag sizes though. It does work ok on traces but I still prefer rewind on them.
@@sunbreakertitan9285why is you don't need to use a primary, and if you've made a mistake and run out of double special it's probably better to wipe than load up a primary even though it has infinite ammo(bows((exotic))the exception imo)
Placing tommy on garbage but centrifuse besides buisness, kinda sensing you've never tested both of them to their limits with the right setup and armors, trust me, tommy's on the hands of a proper solar build is scary, ignoring its full auto 100 round self ignition outhealing everything and nonstop ignitioning evertyhing around, and no, im not talking outhealing something as a warlock, i mean as A TITAN OR A HUNTER.
Last Breath being the only auto in game to get Demo + Osmosis alone makes it S tier PLUS its a 600 rpm. Everyone who uses grenades should be hard farming it this week.
bro i have to agree with you so much. I got lucky with my demo osmosis last breath and it has been my go to weapon. Having a primary that synergises with every class is INSANE. I can use it with gyrafalcon and get volatile rounds, get it with unraveling rounds when rocking strand, make arc traces (or whatever they are called) and it synergizes with the arc artifacts from this season making it also extremely insane. It also keeps restoration up when running solar. This is deff an S tier auto rifle due to its great adaptability, and demo is the cherry on top, helping you generate your grenade quickly. Its deff my fav auto. This tier list is quite meh.
Marshix that Tommy's rating was foul, just need heat rises for cure on solar weapon kills or sanguine alchemy for infinite healing and damage boost and Tommy's becomes a beast.
I think this tier list could use a rework as different auto rifles can be quite good or underperform based on the scenario and difficulty of content and class being used. For example, summoner can get golden tricorn (great for a solar class), herod C has the hakke origin trait and can pair with a stasis build with headstone, while scathelocke has the most range for a 600 if you want to keep your distance but still need an auto rifle.
Would anyone like to sign my petition that enrolls youtubers in a class that teaches them what "OP" means? (No hate or anything, it's just that the word is 200% oversaturated and youtubers just don't use it right)
I was gonna say he mentioned the best thing with it...its a really fun thing to use it certain pve content but I prolly won't use it in something like nightfalls, dungeons, or raids save for maybe a dps phase on the weaker bosses
Tommy is not garbage, if you propperly play around its mechanics of burn and add solar biuilds on top. Also using ADS of Tomyy`s and then saying its garbage is going into the universall hall of Cringe
If you really think Tommys is bad you must be trolling, havent you heard about restoration 2x + embers of empyrean + embers of char + dawn chorus ? It melts everything. Also can work with titans with actium war rig but is a little more risky and things die anyway before your mag is over
Hard disagree with the Reckless oracle amazing Auto jist need the right perks like most weapons, my outlaw swashbuckler been putting in the work - wished it was killclip and it would have been perfect but Garden Grinds continues until they are craftable
This should be called the 'The Maybe' list. ngl, my vault is pretty much that in a nutshell. So many weapons with potential but fall short. That being said, I have weapons that serve a singular purpose, either for a specific build or activity and they do that one thing really well. Who knows, with the ever shifting meta, that 'Maybe' list could turn into a GOATed list real fast.
The fact that it’s an exotic is most likely why, because Rufus does similar stuff but without the extra rockets and exotic slot. That’s the reason for me at least why it’s not #1.
@@Black-1016, let's put in perspective, what is better, leviathan's breath/thunderlord or quicksilver storm? because yes, if you compare autos, obviously quicksilver is better, but would you rather do more primary damage or just obliterate anything with a ultra/boss tags?
@@atheon- it depends because in a gm its better to use qstorm than a basic auto, now everything changes with surges nf and load outs. But for now I am talking about one on one weapons.
You're definitely sleeping on Centrifuse, its an awesome new addition(one of best season pass exotics weve gotten) and is a very strong option in general, but even more so on an Arc Subclass(borderline OP with catalyst). Ive been farming GMs heavily this week, Fallen Saber, playing with all sorts of options and Centrifuse has been one of the strongest & most fun. If you havent given it a shot, get the catalyst, put together your favorite arc build and enjoy!
@@zorpglorpwith the catalyst, you lose no charge while you’re amplified, and passively gives you charge too. Only way you would lose charge is if you reloaded
@@zorpglorp it charges up to full after depleting in like 2 seconds bro. And it stays fully charged all the time even if you’re not moving, as long as you’re amplified which is super easy with arc builds especially arc warlocks. You can be amplified almost 24/7
Reckless Oracle is a 720 rpm auto, your video is written in a way that makes it sound like it’s a 360. I also totally disagree that Reckless Oracle is garbage, I think it’s the best in slot 720.
I full on agree with ammit being the best. I got mine last year and I put incandescent and ambitious assassin on it and it basically got turned into an lmg. You can get around 110 rounds in it which makes it amazing for dealing with swarms of enemies
I don't use Ammit as much as maybe I should, as it competes for the slot with the BxR and Calus Mini. Three great choices on the solar build for that slot. This season due to the artifact mod for ARs I've used it more. Next season who knows.
I know these are nuanced opinions but fact is fact and reckless oracle is definitely not a 360rpm. It’s a 720 frame and it’s definitely it trash. I’d say a step below knowing hunger depending on roll. Love the content!
Positive Outlook is great for Void synergy with access to things like Destabilizing Rounds and Repulsor Brace. You're using Centrifuse wrong if you think it's Maybe. Equipped with an Arc subclass this weapon will make you Amplified and continuous firing charges the weapon. It could use some tweaking but being able to Blind groups of ads makes it an excellent weapon.
Scathelocke is not OP, but definitely doesn't belong in "Maybe?" I use Scathelocke with Subsistence and Rampage all the time, for non PvE endgame it's very strong It's like Huckleberry in Legendary, and Huckleberry is A or S-tier But other than that, I roughly agree with you for the rest And Duty Bound is also very good with Stats for All and One for All for endgame PvE Also, I'm on console and I think 600rpm ARs feel best on console
You know that huckleberry’s rampage perk doesn’t work like every version of rampage right ? Huckleberry is the only gun in the game that retains the original rampage numbers which is 66% at max damage. Every other gun with rampage only gets %33 and huckleberry refills the entire mag with a kill while subsistence only refills some of it and huckleberry’s is a exotic primary giving it an automatic %40 extra damage to red bars. Scathelocke is absolutely garbage compared to huckleberry
@@magiickarma4460 Maybe that's why I put Huckleberry in S-tier and Scathelocke in A or B-tier 🤷 Never said Scathelocke was 1:1 the same as Huckleberry I said Scathelocke is like Huckleberry, not it is I know everything about Huckleberry and almost everything about the game overall And Huckleberry itself doesn't refill the whole magazine, only with Catalyst, means Huckleberry without Catalyst is just Subsistence
Matchbook got an update, friend. Its doing substantially better! It's not the best especially since it does require some elbow grease to get it working. but it's definitely something to play around with. Particularly on Titan with Loreley Splendor. there's some pretty cracked builds with those 2 exotics paired together! On its own however, it's not going to be the best but definitely a lot of fun and mutch stronger with its update.
You are wild for putting Tommy Matchbook at garbage. Tommy causes ignitions and legit is so good in PVE with the right build. I’ve been using Tommy for PVE endgame like raids and seasonal content and it legit a monster on ad clear
Scathelocke is my number one favorite auto rifle of all D2, and I'm still sad that i never got my god roll with the reissued perks. But at least I've got Old Sterling now, which is the same aesthetic and archetype, just green.
@@realfake6669 that, with Smallbore and Accurized rounds with a Range masterwork would be my ideal. Although a Stability masterwork would be almost as good to help reduce flinch.
Marshix I've followed you for a while, but please don't do this kind of tier list again. You are biased and did not do any actual comparaison. Age-Old Bond has some of the best stat package for it's archetype. Concretisation is good for breaking shields and ad-clear + utility (Dragonfly, Shoot to loot). These are just 2 examples, tjere's more than that. Don't ever do tier list unless you actually did a deep dive on all autos...
Reckless oracle is 720 rpm amd its still amazing, almost all 720 rpm AR are amazing right now: rufus, chroma rush, krait etc, why reckless os garbage lol
Sweet Sorrow with Stats for all and one for all is the best legendary auto in the game. Its not even close. An easily applied 35% buff on a 720. Krait is #2 in kinetic slot as it can have the same roll. Its only 5% less damage than quicksilver and it doesn't take up an exotic slot. How is this not OP?
100% correct. Sweet sorrow crafted version with Stats for all / One for all (enhanced) 71 in the mag + amplified = OP It's the best legendary auto in the game.🤗
if monte carlo gets to be in good, i cannot understand centrifuse being maybe. easy, no cooldown blind is incredibly useful in ad-dense content, and it puts out fine in almost any situation ive used it in.
Lodbrock, Perpetualis, and Rufus Fury are all kinetic/strand slot ARs that have target lock. For energy, Coronach and the new revised Age Old Bond also have target lock
Reckless oracle is a 720 not 360 is clear you don't have one because it's one of the best void ARs in the game ur dead wrong about that one, and I'll agree with you that tiger spite sucks for pve but it's a machine in the crucible I have a surplus rangefinder roll that I've gone flawless with 7 times.
The gnawing hunger with zen moment and Rampage... that xur sold... it has quickly become my pvp beast! Other than that i haven't used many auto rifles in crucible.
Centrifuge gains charge not only by sprinting, but by sliding and shooting too. Don’t remember what the catalyst does, but I I think it might make the centrifuge stay overcharged longer.
@@realfake6669 yeah it definitely needs an update. A 720 with kill clip is a decent experience in general tho, definitely not F tier like the video says
Cerberus was my first exotic so i learned how to use it properly. Its got a more exotic feel since it's unique and not just a "legendary plus". Its damage escalation for mid range is sort of the key to its use.. It's not s tier and forget accuracy. But it hits hard when you know how to use it.
So you rank the new vanguard auto lower because getting the roll you want is unlikely but hunger which you can't even get anymore still stays s tier? Where is the consistency in that? Either you ignore how hard to get they are or you don't. You can't just say that one auto is getting a lower rating because of its acquirebility and at the same time ignore it for another.
Did you seriously put my eternally cherished Gnawing Hunger in the bad tier on the thumbnail just to bait people, because if so that is genius and I absolutely hate you for it!
Forward Path is absolutely the best Legendary auto imo. 4th Times, Swashbuckler, and backup mag👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 Absolutely tears and is on the same level as Quicksilver in PvP. I’ve had it for years and it’s never left my inventory. The recoil, or lack there of is what makes it such a beast.
I have an 80k kill counter on one of my Forward Paths, from back in the static roll era which was never allowed to move up in light, so I keep it on hand as a keepsake.
Tigerspite is a good auto rifle with a good perk pool. I don't understand why you put it in no. Actually for some of the weapons, you didn't give a reason why you out them there and that barely proves any point as why you put them there.
Reckless Oracle is a 720 not 360. Not sure if you meant to say it was but when mentioning it and that Cy-whateverthefuckit'scalled you said 360s are bad.
Putting Tommy’s in bottom tier is a crime, especially because it’s catalyst makes it scorch on hit, so it’s basically free ignitions, and the self damage is basically negated when using restoration
The thing around 360 Autos is that if you get High Caliber Rounds, the knockback on each bullet stunlocks Minors and often on Majors too
I love 360 and I commented it's how you use it that shines you can't go running face first into enemies you play back and hold target
I agree plus he said sweet sorrow craftable so is come to pass
True, but it's incredibility underwhelming on 360s. Rarely ever see the perk work since you're shooting so slow.
(Referring to GM lvl enemies)
Lodbrock is really good with target lock and 4th times the charm… some 360’s are good, most are junk. Age Old Bond with repulser brace and destabilizing rounds is going to be an awesome choice for PVE void builds, especially this season with the void mods…
Reckless Oracle isn’t a 360 😭😭😭, it’s a 720 auto
He mixed reckless and age old bond, honest mistake
Reckless Oracle with Demolitionist + Mulligan combined with a good Gyrfalcon Build is amazing. It’s being slept on 😢.
@@MATEUSthe7th real
Give him a break. He’s retarded
@Marsix
Centrifuse is 100% OP in PVE with an arc subclass. Not to mention it's also not bad in PVP.
Especially with the catalyst and this seasons artifact mods.
I concur 1000%
Exactly it's a major add for d2 so many people would agree I mean it changes the arc meta in such a way
Ridiculous with arc Titan and actium, mows through low end content like it’s no one’s business. However I don’t think it has the chops to hang with the big dogs in master+ content
I gotta go with this as well. Every time I try to swap it out to open up an exotic slot, maybe to put Briggins law in there with volt shot I have fun, but then I go back. This thing is a beast but you have to have the catalyst absolutely. Sprinting to reload is such an awesome effect. And with the catalyst you’re always charged. I do love it but obviously I’ve been missing out on a few weapons that I need to give a try
Tommy and reckless oracle are actually pretty good, if you build into restoration, tommy won't keep you in red health, reckless oracle has demo and is one of the only void auto rifles in rifle in a good archetype that isn't sunset.
Yes fr, Tommy and Reckless Oracle are amazing fr. Reckless Oracle is underrated man, like it is really a good auto rifle if you have a good void build
Tommy’s is really good I totally agree
I am reckless Tommy fan and with recent buffs it turned into my go to ignitions weapon. It was fun, now its even pretty darn good! Also its quite unstabally fun in pvp with right void devour setup
Sweet sorrow
@@Michael-t6c2rhe put the sweet sorrow in good, your argument is irrelevant
Krait with Amplified Mag + Overflow + Backup Mag is hilarious
You can get 144 bullets in a single mag, and it gets even dumber when Veist Stinger procs
And even if you don't proc Overflow you still having a 72 round mag
Truly one of the Auto Rifles of all time
Wasn't aware of this! I'll keep my eyes out for this
Yeah, krait is truly the best along with quicksilver
Say you dont know how to use void classes without saying you dont know how to use them.
Marshix: Whats osmosis?
He also put Reckless Oracle into F Tier, because "it's a 360" when it's literally not.
So unless this was a parody video, I don't know what it was meant to be...
@@TheCursedCat1927 yeah honestly theres so many wrongs in this video that it just pissese me off
Lol marshix is funny he shows his weapons knowledge
@@josephtaylor5909 yeah 😂 all 2 minutes of it
Agreed on a few guns he was wrong but he may not used them in the proper build that make them op as heck
Bro... Tommy's is amazing in so many builds, especially on Titans. Tommys on Phoenix protocol ignition build is amazing too.
yeah he literally has no idea what hes on about nowadays
I have a warlock build with this gun and it's so much fun!😎👌
Tommy`s makes it so easy to cast almost three solar exlosions on a boss with heaqvy knife, fragment and Gunpowder Gambit its ridiculous
I would probably place Tommy's more in maybe that being said I can understand why it would be placed in garbage since it REQUIRES you to build around its shortcomings
@@Gildedbolt garbage means its unusable in any circumstances though. Tommy is usable, and if you are lazy just put devour and it will work like a charm for add clear up to majors
Ain't no way this man just said Overflow Rampage on Summoner was mid but Overflow Rampage on Gnawing Hunger was op
Exactly. I wish he would go in depth as to how he ranks these guns.
@@NukZeybro doesn’t he a 🤡
Nah Tommy’s in garbage is a crime
Dude it’s an amazing gun now after the update. I watched Aztecross’s video and used his seton and bro, it was a monster
idk what hes on about i just use it becuse i dont want to be a sunshot meta slave
me when im in a terrible tier list competition and my opponent is this
1:40 you put the wrong auto and showed the wrong gun
I dont think bro uses auto rifles
Hey, you called Reckless Oracle a bad 360 but it's a 720 (and it has some neat rolls)
Im sure he mixed false promises and reckless oracle
Still disrespecting muh boi
Reckless oracle with under pressure and kill clip is amazing. All 720s are
I prefer Rewind Rounds over Reconstruction on primaries. Reconstruction is great on special and power weapons you aren't using all the time but for primaries(and traces) that you're constantly using reconstruction doesn't have time to work during the fights. Lmgs are different due to their huge mag sizes though. It does work ok on traces but I still prefer rewind on them.
Same here I hope they put that on more 360 autos soon and bring them back into the light
Rewind all day
@@sunbreakertitan9285why is you don't need to use a primary, and if you've made a mistake and run out of double special it's probably better to wipe than load up a primary even though it has infinite ammo(bows((exotic))the exception imo)
Someone has clearly never used Reckless Oracle
Tommy’s can cause a ton of ignitions so it is definitely at least good
I actually really like Tommy’s. Paired with Loreley Splendor, you hardly feel the burn effect. Or pair it with Path of Burning Steps for more damage.
I was sooo close to get Tommy’s but ended up getting The Rat King haha
I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks that Tommy's is badass
Placing tommy on garbage but centrifuse besides buisness, kinda sensing you've never tested both of them to their limits with the right setup and armors, trust me, tommy's on the hands of a proper solar build is scary, ignoring its full auto 100 round self ignition outhealing everything and nonstop ignitioning evertyhing around, and no, im not talking outhealing something as a warlock, i mean as A TITAN OR A HUNTER.
Last Breath being the only auto in game to get Demo + Osmosis alone makes it S tier PLUS its a 600 rpm. Everyone who uses grenades should be hard farming it this week.
bro i have to agree with you so much. I got lucky with my demo osmosis last breath and it has been my go to weapon. Having a primary that synergises with every class is INSANE. I can use it with gyrafalcon and get volatile rounds, get it with unraveling rounds when rocking strand, make arc traces (or whatever they are called) and it synergizes with the arc artifacts from this season making it also extremely insane. It also keeps restoration up when running solar. This is deff an S tier auto rifle due to its great adaptability, and demo is the cherry on top, helping you generate your grenade quickly. Its deff my fav auto. This tier list is quite meh.
Marshix that Tommy's rating was foul, just need heat rises for cure on solar weapon kills or sanguine alchemy for infinite healing and damage boost and Tommy's becomes a beast.
Hardlight and krait higher than centrifuse? And on the same tier as positive outlook..? You right, this definitely ain't my tier list 💀
I think this tier list could use a rework as different auto rifles can be quite good or underperform based on the scenario and difficulty of content and class being used. For example, summoner can get golden tricorn (great for a solar class), herod C has the hakke origin trait and can pair with a stasis build with headstone, while scathelocke has the most range for a 600 if you want to keep your distance but still need an auto rifle.
Preach that i agree completely
Except that defeats the purpose of a tier list because then every gun could be better in a specific situations/builds
Would anyone like to sign my petition that enrolls youtubers in a class that teaches them what "OP" means?
(No hate or anything, it's just that the word is 200% oversaturated and youtubers just don't use it right)
Centrifuse absolutely melts with arc especially with the catalyst. Sweet Business is also really good imo with certain builds.
I was gonna say he mentioned the best thing with it...its a really fun thing to use it certain pve content but I prolly won't use it in something like nightfalls, dungeons, or raids save for maybe a dps phase on the weaker bosses
He doesn't have the catalyst or play warlock does he
Centrifuse is actually op with catalyst on warlock since ur constantly amplified
I feel like this channel is kinda done since that Bungie decided to go p2w.
AzthecrossGaming explained the current D2 microtransaction very well
The big question is, have you deleted all the “No” and “Garbage” autos or are you keeping some in you vault for their inevitable buff?
Tommy is not garbage, if you propperly play around its mechanics of burn and add solar biuilds on top.
Also using ADS of Tomyy`s and then saying its garbage is going into the universall hall of Cringe
This could possibly be the most mid tier list I’ve ever seen. Tommy and centrifuse not at op is ridiculous
Centrifuge sucks butt
This guy doesn’t know how to use Tommy that’s why he said it’s garbage
Tommy match deals dmg to you while your shoot 💀
If you really think Tommys is bad you must be trolling, havent you heard about restoration 2x + embers of empyrean + embers of char + dawn chorus ? It melts everything. Also can work with titans with actium war rig but is a little more risky and things die anyway before your mag is over
Come To Pass is good for one reason: You can craft it and it only takes 3 red borders. Stats for All + One for All is always solid.
Reckless is an amazing auto rifle i use it all the time on void hunter
Hard disagree with the Reckless oracle amazing Auto jist need the right perks like most weapons, my outlaw swashbuckler been putting in the work - wished it was killclip and it would have been perfect but Garden Grinds continues until they are craftable
Reckless oracle is not a 360 rpm. It's a 720 and actually a really nice one.
Summoner gets Golden Tricorn, it’s a good gun. Reckless Oracle is a 720, not a 360, and it’s decent. Problematic video.
This should be called the 'The Maybe' list. ngl, my vault is pretty much that in a nutshell. So many weapons with potential but fall short. That being said, I have weapons that serve a singular purpose, either for a specific build or activity and they do that one thing really well. Who knows, with the ever shifting meta, that 'Maybe' list could turn into a GOATed list real fast.
bro really said that reckless oracle is a 360
Quicksilver should be undisputed number 1 🤫
The fact that it’s an exotic is most likely why, because Rufus does similar stuff but without the extra rockets and exotic slot. That’s the reason for me at least why it’s not #1.
@@Yearlywinter4is not similar and qstorm is way better for endgame with the grenade launcher mode and rocket
@@Black-1016, let's put in perspective, what is better, leviathan's breath/thunderlord or quicksilver storm? because yes, if you compare autos, obviously quicksilver is better, but would you rather do more primary damage or just obliterate anything with a ultra/boss tags?
@@atheon- it depends because in a gm its better to use qstorm than a basic auto, now everything changes with surges nf and load outs. But for now I am talking about one on one weapons.
@@Black-1016, you can't talk about one to one with exotics since you can't equip 3 of them.
"360 are just bad!"
Reckless oracle being 720 and a good auto if built good: 💀
You're definitely sleeping on Centrifuse, its an awesome new addition(one of best season pass exotics weve gotten) and is a very strong option in general, but even more so on an Arc Subclass(borderline OP with catalyst). Ive been farming GMs heavily this week, Fallen Saber, playing with all sorts of options and Centrifuse has been one of the strongest & most fun. If you havent given it a shot, get the catalyst, put together your favorite arc build and enjoy!
i'd rather not have to run in circles for an hour and end my gaming session with a cramped finger.
@@zorpglorpyou don’t have to. The catalyst keeps it charged when you’re amplified. It’s very good with arc builds
@@hatchell18 does it charge faster than it depletes?
@@zorpglorpwith the catalyst, you lose no charge while you’re amplified, and passively gives you charge too. Only way you would lose charge is if you reloaded
@@zorpglorp it charges up to full after depleting in like 2 seconds bro. And it stays fully charged all the time even if you’re not moving, as long as you’re amplified which is super easy with arc builds especially arc warlocks. You can be amplified almost 24/7
after watching this review, i don’t think i’ll ever refer to this channel for tips again 😂
Real
Reckless Oracle is a 720 rpm auto, your video is written in a way that makes it sound like it’s a 360. I also totally disagree that Reckless Oracle is garbage, I think it’s the best in slot 720.
i have one thing to say:
reckless oracle has demo and it is a 720, not a 360, it's good, not great, but far from bottom tier 💀
The moment he classified reckless oracle as a 360, I stopped listening.
I full on agree with ammit being the best. I got mine last year and I put incandescent and ambitious assassin on it and it basically got turned into an lmg. You can get around 110 rounds in it which makes it amazing for dealing with swarms of enemies
I don't use Ammit as much as maybe I should, as it competes for the slot with the BxR and Calus Mini. Three great choices on the solar build for that slot. This season due to the artifact mod for ARs I've used it more. Next season who knows.
I know these are nuanced opinions but fact is fact and reckless oracle is definitely not a 360rpm. It’s a 720 frame and it’s definitely it trash. I’d say a step below knowing hunger depending on roll. Love the content!
Positive Outlook is great for Void synergy with access to things like Destabilizing Rounds and Repulsor Brace.
You're using Centrifuse wrong if you think it's Maybe. Equipped with an Arc subclass this weapon will make you Amplified and continuous firing charges the weapon. It could use some tweaking but being able to Blind groups of ads makes it an excellent weapon.
Reckless is the only 720 void auto and Tommy's is absolutely great with the infinite restoration build u get on all classes
I was gonna say that! He's talking about 360's and throws reckless in with them.
Scathelocke is not OP, but definitely doesn't belong in "Maybe?"
I use Scathelocke with Subsistence and Rampage all the time, for non PvE endgame it's very strong
It's like Huckleberry in Legendary, and Huckleberry is A or S-tier
But other than that, I roughly agree with you for the rest
And Duty Bound is also very good with Stats for All and One for All for endgame PvE
Also, I'm on console and I think 600rpm ARs feel best on console
As a person who uses scathelocke without the god roll even I agree
You know that huckleberry’s rampage perk doesn’t work like every version of rampage right ? Huckleberry is the only gun in the game that retains the original rampage numbers which is 66% at max damage. Every other gun with rampage only gets %33 and huckleberry refills the entire mag with a kill while subsistence only refills some of it and huckleberry’s is a exotic primary giving it an automatic %40 extra damage to red bars. Scathelocke is absolutely garbage compared to huckleberry
@@magiickarma4460 Maybe that's why I put Huckleberry in S-tier and Scathelocke in A or B-tier 🤷
Never said Scathelocke was 1:1 the same as Huckleberry
I said Scathelocke is like Huckleberry, not it is
I know everything about Huckleberry and almost everything about the game overall
And Huckleberry itself doesn't refill the whole magazine, only with Catalyst, means Huckleberry without Catalyst is just Subsistence
Matchbook got an update, friend. Its doing substantially better! It's not the best especially since it does require some elbow grease to get it working. but it's definitely something to play around with. Particularly on Titan with Loreley Splendor. there's some pretty cracked builds with those 2 exotics paired together! On its own however, it's not going to be the best but definitely a lot of fun and mutch stronger with its update.
You are wild for putting Tommy Matchbook at garbage. Tommy causes ignitions and legit is so good in PVE with the right build. I’ve been using Tommy for PVE endgame like raids and seasonal content and it legit a monster on ad clear
Did he really say Reckless Oracle is a 360 RPM when it clearly says 720 RPM? 😅
Scathelocke is my number one favorite auto rifle of all D2, and I'm still sad that i never got my god roll with the reissued perks. But at least I've got Old Sterling now, which is the same aesthetic and archetype, just green.
Which roll do you like best, mine is Subsistence and Rampage
@@realfake6669 that, with Smallbore and Accurized rounds with a Range masterwork would be my ideal. Although a Stability masterwork would be almost as good to help reduce flinch.
Marshix I've followed you for a while, but please don't do this kind of tier list again.
You are biased and did not do any actual comparaison.
Age-Old Bond has some of the best stat package for it's archetype.
Concretisation is good for breaking shields and ad-clear + utility (Dragonfly, Shoot to loot).
These are just 2 examples, tjere's more than that.
Don't ever do tier list unless you actually did a deep dive on all autos...
Reckless oracle is 720 rpm amd its still amazing, almost all 720 rpm AR are amazing right now: rufus, chroma rush, krait etc, why reckless os garbage lol
reckless oracle is a 720 not a 360?
Sweet Sorrow with Stats for all and one for all is the best legendary auto in the game. Its not even close. An easily applied 35% buff on a 720. Krait is #2 in kinetic slot as it can have the same roll. Its only 5% less damage than quicksilver and it doesn't take up an exotic slot. How is this not OP?
100% correct.
Sweet sorrow crafted version with
Stats for all / One for all (enhanced)
71 in the mag + amplified = OP
It's the best legendary auto in the game.🤗
if monte carlo gets to be in good, i cannot understand centrifuse being maybe. easy, no cooldown blind is incredibly useful in ad-dense content, and it puts out fine in almost any situation ive used it in.
Lodbrock, Perpetualis, and Rufus Fury are all kinetic/strand slot ARs that have target lock. For energy, Coronach and the new revised Age Old Bond also have target lock
Reckless oracle is a 720 not 360 is clear you don't have one because it's one of the best void ARs in the game ur dead wrong about that one, and I'll agree with you that tiger spite sucks for pve but it's a machine in the crucible I have a surplus rangefinder roll that I've gone flawless with 7 times.
Which auto rifle is your favorite?
Do pulse rifles next please!
Yasssss do another guntype with the best mods
Monty and some builds I lean into it.
Quicksilver storm definitely
Scathelocke with Subsistence and Rampage
Tommy's Matchbook is garbage? have you... completely neglected solar 3.0 since launch...?
A yes my favourite 360 rpm auto rifle reckless Oracle ( which is an 720 rpm )
Gotta love marshix with the clickbait thumbnails as usual
Hate the game not the player it’s all for the algorithm
Positive Outlook can get Destabilising Rounds or Repulsor Brace or Golden Tricorn, it definitely should be in Good tier.
The destabilizing rounds alone make this gun killer you can plow through lots of different enemies void or not
The gnawing hunger with zen moment and Rampage... that xur sold... it has quickly become my pvp beast! Other than that i haven't used many auto rifles in crucible.
Tell me you dont know how to use Tommy’s without telling me you dont know how to use tommys
Tommy’s matchbook is good af with loreley splendor
Reckless Oracle is a 720 and is good.
Centrifuge gains charge not only by sprinting, but by sliding and shooting too. Don’t remember what the catalyst does, but I I think it might make the centrifuge stay overcharged longer.
I think the catalyst makes it so you gain charge for it while you're amplified?
@@andu7049 maybe
@@Sinder_VII checked it gives you charge while amplified which makes the gun have basically infinite uptime on the exotic perk with a good arc build
Reckless isn't a 360! Its a nice void 720
Tommy with Loreley's splendor goes hard as balls, get it up to maybe.
Reckless oracle is a 720 and is pretty good????
Unfortunately doesn't have a very good perk pool, maybe the raid will be updated the season after next
Then it could be very good
@@realfake6669 yeah it definitely needs an update. A 720 with kill clip is a decent experience in general tho, definitely not F tier like the video says
Out here with a masterworked lodbrok. I love it. I enjoy slow firing weapons so it's good for me.
Ummmm, reckless oracle a 720 not 360?? I love the gun and it can get semi decent perks, defoo not in garbage
Cerberus was my first exotic so i learned how to use it properly. Its got a more exotic feel since it's unique and not just a "legendary plus". Its damage escalation for mid range is sort of the key to its use.. It's not s tier and forget accuracy. But it hits hard when you know how to use it.
Dude Cerberus sucks
So you rank the new vanguard auto lower because getting the roll you want is unlikely but hunger which you can't even get anymore still stays s tier? Where is the consistency in that? Either you ignore how hard to get they are or you don't. You can't just say that one auto is getting a lower rating because of its acquirebility and at the same time ignore it for another.
“360s are bad” shows reckless oracle ( it’s a 720 )
Man calling reckless Oracle 360
Hard to run a primary weapon when double special gives infinite heavy ammo. I haven’t run a primary in months.
Reckless Oracle is my favorite gun and its definitely being slept on. (Btw its a 720 not a 360 rpm)
>reckless oracle
>360
I beg your pardon?
Last breath is a 600 knetic that gets demo + frenzy…..
centrifuse is good with catalyst
dude centrifuse is amazing prob one of the best auto rifles in the game
Reckless oracle is NOT garbage.
Did you seriously put my eternally cherished Gnawing Hunger in the bad tier on the thumbnail just to bait people, because if so that is genius and I absolutely hate you for it!
BRO SAID TOMMYS WAS GARBAGE NEVER RATE AGAIN
I would bump up Sweet Business to the good column though. So fun with hi add strikes, nightfalls etc. with Actium War Rig. Otherwise spot-on!
Bud you don’t know destiny rn if Tommy’s is in garbage tied.
Also age old bond is S tier
Forward Path is absolutely the best Legendary auto imo. 4th Times, Swashbuckler, and backup mag👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 Absolutely tears and is on the same level as Quicksilver in PvP. I’ve had it for years and it’s never left my inventory. The recoil, or lack there of is what makes it such a beast.
I have an 80k kill counter on one of my Forward Paths, from back in the static roll era which was never allowed to move up in light, so I keep it on hand as a keepsake.
last breath with demo and osmosis would like to have a word.
Why is gnawing hunger OP but scathelocke maybe? They have the same perks except scathelocke does 15% more damage being a kinetic
Tigerspite is a good auto rifle with a good perk pool. I don't understand why you put it in no. Actually for some of the weapons, you didn't give a reason why you out them there and that barely proves any point as why you put them there.
The list is about as air tight as the oceangate submarine
Reckless Oracle is a 720 not 360. Not sure if you meant to say it was but when mentioning it and that Cy-whateverthefuckit'scalled you said 360s are bad.
you have a BIG bias in favor of 600s and a heavy prejudice against every other archetype
Don’t put op for tier s tier s is for powerful weapons people don’t learn and they get nerfed it’s powerful not op
Reckless oracle is 720 tho....
Also centrifuse is an amazing gun to use with an arc subclass on the warlock for pvp
Dude youre so wrong on Centrifuse. That gun is awesome