Let's be real everyone kinda forgets about everything in this show. Jon's lineage, the Iron Fleet, Jaime's redemption arc. Everything gets forgotten in the end lol
Until they dug that Horn out of the ground, the white walkers remained in hiding. Now they sense a threat. And the first point they struck? The fist of the first men. That is the horn of winter.
They probably attacked after this because they wanted the horn itself since it is said that it's power is to bring down the wall. It makes a lot of sense why the Others launched an attack after this moment. D&D were really really stupid to eventually take all the supernatural mystery from the show. That was the most interesting part!
@@andrewvincent7299 NO - the real magic happens when they remove all the magic - things become REAL! Even the dragons could be part of reality. If eggs were to exist, they could! Keeping it real is everything! All the fucking superheros today make me sick!!!
bro. no. you obviously never read the books. The white walkers were ALREADY out and attacking people in the North. that is the ONLY reason they went ranging in the north. the Horn is not the horn of winter and it literally has nothing to do with the white walkers.
i think it summons sleeping giants. The other great horn is found by Euron Greyjoy during his life-long voyage across the seas over to Valyria where the Targaryen ancestors use to breed & ride dragons, and the horn is used to call/control them.
The Horn of Winter, also known as the Horn of Joramun, is a legendary horn with magical properties. According to legend, Joramun gathered the Free Folk to battle the Night's King, who had made the Night's Watch into his personal army. He joined forces with the Stark King of Winter Brandon the Breaker and together they brought down the Night's King. When he blew the horn, he "woke the giants from the earth." It is currently claimed that blowing the Horn will destroy the Wall. “We never found the Horn of Winter. We opened half a hundred graves and let all those shades loose in the world, and never found the Horn of Joramun to bring this cold thing down” - Ygritte “The Horn of Joramun? No. Call it the Horn of Darkness. If the Wall falls, night falls as well, the long night that never ends. It must not happen, will not happen” - Melisandre There's a recent theory that the Wall has a giant ice dragon buried beneath it. Ice dragons are said to roam the Shivering Sea and the White Waste, north beyond the wall. Reportedly, they are far larger than the dragons of Valyria. If so then I don't think the Horn will destroy the Wall. When the Horn is blown the ice dragon will wake up, ""woke the giants from the earth", and that will cause the wall to collapse. There's also a theory that the Greyjoys get a Kraken. Krakens are creatures largely considered a myth by the people of Westeros, but the arms of House Greyjoy depict a gold kraken, and according to ironborn legend, they did exist. House Celtigar of Claw Isle is actually said to have among its treasures a horn that can summon Krakens from under the sea. The Night's King + Giant Ice Dragon vs Daenerys + 3 Fire Dragons Hench, A Song of Ice and Fire.
Miguel Arellano i dont think its broken. i think it was designed so it can only be blown by certain people, or maybe it has some kind of magic safety lock. sam will learn its secret in the citadel.
So Dragon Glass is Obsidian? Makes sense then that it would be such an effective weapon against White Walkers, born in the heart of fire it must carry a strong amount of R'hollors power, plus Obsidian is known to be incredibly sharp, more so than even a scalpel.
Also true, I wonder if weapons covered or studded in it would have the same effectiveness against White Walkers? They could try making Dragon Glass Macahuitls :-P
As a person who lives in northern Europe, the abscence of caps on the characters is ludicrous. Not wearing warm on your head at sub-zero temps is crazy, something the Night's Watch would know. The show was shot at real freezing locations, and you can see the actors are uncomfortable with bare heads! In the books, the Watch wear caps and hoods. But somehow, wearing a cap does not look coooool... XD
its all about not being able to see the actor or not being able to tell who is who in action scenes, its the same thing as people taking their helmets off in battles.
Oddly thats the first scene i ever watched from GOT. Was browsing through channels an saw it until Tywin showed up. 2 years after i started watching the show and instantly remembered this scene
More like Dragonbinder, since Euron Greyjoy (in the show) doesn't have it yet. Sam might have it and now he is in Oldtown. In the books Oldtown was attacked by Euron.
I feel for you GOT fans I so do. I remember when 8 was coming out, some people were even talking about, "will this over take LOTR," and I think if the handlers had actually tried to make the show and not tried to make "their version," then it would have. I think what makes it even more painful was the rejection of this type of stuff, the fun stuff. Because they were going for some sort of fictional power group that is made of people who hate the idea of fantasy. Pretty sure it was the bad guys from Revenge of the Nerds is who the directors were trying to cater towards.
"The Horn of Winter, that Joramun once blew to wake giants from the earth." Waking giants from the earth.. causing earth quakes perhaps? Bran has a dream in season 2 episode 5 "I dreamt that the sea came to Winterfell. I saw waves crashing against the gates. And the water came flowing over the walls. Flooded the castle. Drowned men were floating here, in the yard."
If you want to find obsidian you should probably look around volcanoes or any place where there's lava, I don't know too much about Game of thrones so I don't know if they have volcanoes around their kingdom, but couldn't they make their own with intense dragon fire and stuff like that?
@@wyattbequette3596 but did this time period know that? They called it dragonsglass and Sam only mentioned the Maesters called it obsidian. So knowing what it is, where it is, then getting the information to everyone, collecting it, distributing it, learning how to craft it as anything other than a sharp piece you also cut yourself on, and then collect and distribute again. Sounds like a 2-3 year process if it all went well.
@@royce9018 this is westeros, where dragonglass is probably seen as mystical and it might legitimately be a sin, or at the very least tabboo, to try to make it. Ignoring that, you have to acknowledge that this IS a miedeval world where it's more than likely that no one knows how to read aside from nobles and those close to nobles, so it would have to be spread from word of mouth IGNORING THAT, the wall is a bit of a fuckin backwater where unwanted kids get sent to die, so I wouldn't be surprised if no one there was keeping up with the invention of a new material that's not useful for weapons
@@EnanoPancracio I wasn't aware that there just flat out wasn't volcanoes in Westeros, but it makes sense. Still, I would consider the maestors as "close to nobles" in social class, loser to them than the commoners at least
*I will start digging in a random place, do I find something?* DM: No, well okey, just roll the dice Grenn: Nat20 DM: FFS, okey fine, you find.... dragonglass and a .... horn.
+marvin van zon, in the books jon gave it to sam, it's off-handedly mentioned throughout but is still in sam's possession which leads me to presume it's the horn which (HUGE SPOILER DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS YET) may bring down the wall created by the children of the forest and the first men. for whatever reason this would be used is still questioned but I bet the wall was made not to keep the white walkers out but as a defensive move by the white walkers, whatever is in the wall (if anything) it's on the side of the first men (starks) and perhaps the nights watch.
It doesn't make sense to have Dragonglass(kill Wights) in the same bag with a Horn that would bring down the Wall and let the Wights through. Why have such a Horn in the first place? Why would you want to bring down the Wall and let the Wights through? Should just destroy it. Make more sense that it was the Dragon Horn which I'm going to believe it is for the TV Show.
The discovery of dragon glass was even better in the books. I just read the chapter. It was Ghost who found it and brings Jon in the middle of the night to see. It was actually a pretty scary sequence.
One of the cases when the plot works for them but they don't use them The second I saw them and everytime I resaw I was like: -If the first men defeated them using this (they must've been doing something right) we should also (or at least try to) use these on them.
Its strange that there is a horn with the glass and its never been mentioned again. GOT writer's don't include something and than forget about it, there has to be a reason the horn is there.
don't maesters also swear off all lands and titles? why didn't sams dad send him to the citadel. it sure is more honorable to have a son who is a measter one would thing
@@vylvylvyl8532 ah, that makes "sense". not irl. but for the character. the father was a right prick. diversify your assets. no wonder his house died out
his dad thought him soft and that is why he told him to renounce his name... probably not someone who accepts your flaws and encourages you to pursue those goals...
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Love it when Sam says "Help me with it" yet keeps watchig Grenn dooing all the work alone :D
Whoever uploaded this seems to agree.
'Sam finds Dragonglass.'
Grenn: am i a joke to you
Poor liver... Glenn didn't make some space for Sam to work 🤣😂🤣
Just like in Gladiator when the guy says "Who will help me carry him?" then doesn't even help.
Sam was supervising like a dog watching his owner mow the grass
Edd just offhandedly spouting words of wisdom as he digs a piss pit: good man haha.
Lord Commander material right there.
Samwell: "help me with it!!"
Also Samwell: *let's Grenn do literally all the hard work*
yeah I find odds with the video title, its more like Grenn found the dragonglass
Can we talk about how they literally showed the Horn of Winter to then immediately forget about it right afterwards wtf.
The Nights Watch kind of, hum, forgot about the horn
Let's be real everyone kinda forgets about everything in this show. Jon's lineage, the Iron Fleet, Jaime's redemption arc. Everything gets forgotten in the end lol
Ha ha, dracolich go brrrrrrr!
nobody knows if it was the horn of winter. That's just fan speculation. Horn of Winter was never mentioned in the show in the first place.
@@serpentphoenix So what was the point of showing lots of dragonglass AND a horn (and nothing else)?
Grenn: why would a brother hide it here?
Edd: I expect he was hoping someone would find it!
😂😂
300 years earlier: Bran warging into a ranger to hide the dragonglass. "Yeah, right about here.."
"Help me with it." Makes Grenn do all the heavy lifting.
1:31 Help me with it.. Didnt carry at all :))
When you ask someone to help you open a jar of pickles, do you both put a hand and try to open it?
no but you do when your pick up a small boulder
If I see landscapes like that I wonder wtf do the wildlings eat all day???
In the case of the Thenns, each other.
They mention there's game like stags and rabbits... at least, until the White Walkers showed up and either scared off or killed all the game.
@@jackguest145 lmao
@@jackguest145 Thenn In A Book Way Far Greater than in Show ya Bitcj.
Until they dug that Horn out of the ground, the white walkers remained in hiding. Now they sense a threat. And the first point they struck? The fist of the first men. That is the horn of winter.
Lmao turns out it was just a big nothing.
They probably attacked after this because they wanted the horn itself since it is said that it's power is to bring down the wall. It makes a lot of sense why the Others launched an attack after this moment. D&D were really really stupid to eventually take all the supernatural mystery from the show. That was the most interesting part!
@@andrewvincent7299 NO - the real magic happens when they remove all the magic - things become REAL! Even the dragons could be part of reality. If eggs were to exist, they could! Keeping it real is everything! All the fucking superheros today make me sick!!!
bro. no. you obviously never read the books. The white walkers were ALREADY out and attacking people in the North. that is the ONLY reason they went ranging in the north. the Horn is not the horn of winter and it literally has nothing to do with the white walkers.
Good thing Grenn or Sam didn't decide to casually blow the horn.
what is that horn doing ?
i think it summons sleeping giants. The other great horn is found by Euron Greyjoy during his life-long voyage across the seas over to Valyria where the Targaryen ancestors use to breed & ride dragons, and the horn is used to call/control them.
The Horn of Winter, also known as the Horn of Joramun, is a legendary horn with magical properties. According to legend, Joramun gathered the Free Folk to battle the Night's King, who had made the Night's Watch into his personal army. He joined forces with the Stark King of Winter Brandon the Breaker and together they brought down the Night's King. When he blew the horn, he "woke the giants from the earth." It is currently claimed that blowing the Horn will destroy the Wall.
“We never found the Horn of Winter. We opened half a hundred graves and let all those shades loose in the world, and never found the Horn of Joramun to bring this cold thing down” - Ygritte
“The Horn of Joramun? No. Call it the Horn of Darkness. If the Wall falls, night falls as well, the long night that never ends. It must not happen, will not happen” - Melisandre
There's a recent theory that the Wall has a giant ice dragon buried beneath it. Ice dragons are said to roam the Shivering Sea and the White Waste, north beyond the wall. Reportedly, they are far larger than the dragons of Valyria.
If so then I don't think the Horn will destroy the Wall. When the Horn is blown the ice dragon will wake up, ""woke the giants from the earth", and that will cause the wall to collapse.
There's also a theory that the Greyjoys get a Kraken. Krakens are creatures largely considered a myth by the people of Westeros, but the arms of House Greyjoy depict a gold kraken, and according to ironborn legend, they did exist. House Celtigar of Claw Isle is actually said to have among its treasures a horn that can summon Krakens from under the sea.
The Night's King + Giant Ice Dragon vs Daenerys + 3 Fire Dragons
Hench, A Song of Ice and Fire.
+KILLx3Mx Don't they mention how it was a broken horn they found?
Miguel Arellano i dont think its broken. i think it was designed so it can only be blown by certain people, or maybe it has some kind of magic safety lock. sam will learn its secret in the citadel.
Ha! Sam is funny... *"help me with it"*
So Dragon Glass is Obsidian? Makes sense then that it would be such an effective weapon against White Walkers, born in the heart of fire it must carry a strong amount of R'hollors power, plus Obsidian is known to be incredibly sharp, more so than even a scalpel.
Also true, I wonder if weapons covered or studded in it would have the same effectiveness against White Walkers? They could try making Dragon Glass Macahuitls :-P
it however makes a great, and also awful, scalpel
Imagine living during the 1st Long Night.
Dying horribly more like.
second long night lastet one night soo i hope the 1st aint that short
There are people North of The Arctic Circle that don't imagine the Long Night. They live it every year.
imagine shitting cactus
As a person who lives in northern Europe, the abscence of caps on the characters is ludicrous. Not wearing warm on your head at sub-zero temps is crazy, something the Night's Watch would know. The show was shot at real freezing locations, and you can see the actors are uncomfortable with bare heads! In the books, the Watch wear caps and hoods. But somehow, wearing a cap does not look coooool... XD
its all about not being able to see the actor or not being able to tell who is who in action scenes, its the same thing as people taking their helmets off in battles.
Oddly thats the first scene i ever watched from GOT. Was browsing through channels an saw it until Tywin showed up. 2 years after i started watching the show and instantly remembered this scene
Should have read the books instead. Rip
The first scene I saw was Robb's sex scene with Talissa.
Been looking for this scene, thanks.
"Help me with it"
Does nothing
I like how he says “help me with it” and then doesn’t help
Possible horn of winter sighting?
+Veronika Mars The horn would have been lost by now anyway, as well as the dragon glass
More like Dragonbinder, since Euron Greyjoy (in the show) doesn't have it yet. Sam might have it and now he is in Oldtown. In the books Oldtown was attacked by Euron.
Oh man I'm from the future, you're gonna be disappointed. All these build up are for nothing
@@erlanggaprasetyo3541 lmao
So by "help me with it" he meant do it for me
Sam finds the horn of winter
Grenn finds the Horn of Winter
I feel for you GOT fans I so do. I remember when 8 was coming out, some people were even talking about, "will this over take LOTR," and I think if the handlers had actually tried to make the show and not tried to make "their version," then it would have. I think what makes it even more painful was the rejection of this type of stuff, the fun stuff. Because they were going for some sort of fictional power group that is made of people who hate the idea of fantasy. Pretty sure it was the bad guys from Revenge of the Nerds is who the directors were trying to cater towards.
“I suspect it’s cause he wanted someone to find it” no Sam, you’re robbing a grave right now
and the wall has a turn on/off option with the horn of winter to activate it :D
We're I can found the full episode of Samwell!!?? do enyvody know???
No matter the time. No matter the place. No matter the enemy. All military work is digging.
He found more than dragon glass... Jon Snow... he found what the meisters say is the Hellhorn that puts spells on Dragons... the Dragonbinder.
the Dragonbinder is almost 2 meters long, ok?
all these theories went to shit huh lmao dumb n dumber strike again
No, that's the horn of winter. The horn that can bring down the wall. Euron has or claim to has the dragonbinder.
"The Horn of Winter, that Joramun once blew to wake giants from the earth." Waking giants from the earth.. causing earth quakes perhaps? Bran has a dream in season 2 episode 5 "I dreamt that the sea came to Winterfell. I saw waves crashing against the gates. And the water came flowing over the walls. Flooded the castle. Drowned men were floating here, in the yard."
That dream seems more like a reference to theon and the ironborn taking winterfell. "Drowned men".
Meant nothing in the end
What episode is this
holy shit the horn of joramun at 2:02
Wonder what happened with the horn?
Jon Tron really murdered this role
Which episode
If you want to find obsidian you should probably look around volcanoes or any place where there's lava, I don't know too much about Game of thrones so I don't know if they have volcanoes around their kingdom, but couldn't they make their own with intense dragon fire and stuff like that?
Technically they could probably, but do they know that? I'm guessing not
@@wyattbequette3596 but did this time period know that? They called it dragonsglass and Sam only mentioned the Maesters called it obsidian. So knowing what it is, where it is, then getting the information to everyone, collecting it, distributing it, learning how to craft it as anything other than a sharp piece you also cut yourself on, and then collect and distribute again. Sounds like a 2-3 year process if it all went well.
@@royce9018 this is westeros, where dragonglass is probably seen as mystical and it might legitimately be a sin, or at the very least tabboo, to try to make it.
Ignoring that, you have to acknowledge that this IS a miedeval world where it's more than likely that no one knows how to read aside from nobles and those close to nobles, so it would have to be spread from word of mouth
IGNORING THAT, the wall is a bit of a fuckin backwater where unwanted kids get sent to die, so I wouldn't be surprised if no one there was keeping up with the invention of a new material that's not useful for weapons
@@wyattbequette3596 the maesters do, but there are no volcanoes in Westeros proper, the closest place they can find more is Dragonstone.
@@EnanoPancracio I wasn't aware that there just flat out wasn't volcanoes in Westeros, but it makes sense. Still, I would consider the maestors as "close to nobles" in social class, loser to them than the commoners at least
*I will start digging in a random place, do I find something?*
DM: No, well okey, just roll the dice
Grenn: Nat20
DM: FFS, okey fine, you find.... dragonglass and a .... horn.
It was better in the books. It was Ghost who took Jon to the digging site.
WATCH IT!
Why they changed it from Jon to Sam
Sam's teeth improved over the course of the show. Must have a good dentist.
Thats the fucking horn of winter!
JPin really? Or maybe it's a horn to warn of white walkers dumbass. Three blast for white walkers...seriously you overthink it lol idiot.
So...what happened to the horn?
+marvin van zon, in the books jon gave it to sam, it's off-handedly mentioned throughout but is still in sam's possession which leads me to presume it's the horn which (HUGE SPOILER DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS YET) may bring down the wall created by the children of the forest and the first men. for whatever reason this would be used is still questioned but I bet the wall was made not to keep the white walkers out but as a defensive move by the white walkers, whatever is in the wall (if anything) it's on the side of the first men (starks) and perhaps the nights watch.
More ice...
It doesn't make sense to have Dragonglass(kill Wights) in the same bag with a Horn that would bring down the Wall and let the Wights through. Why have such a Horn in the first place? Why would you want to bring down the Wall and let the Wights through? Should just destroy it.
Make more sense that it was the Dragon Horn which I'm going to believe it is for the TV Show.
No , its a ice titan
Marvin van Zon It's just a horn to warn of white walkers in advance. Not that hard to figure out. Three blast remember?
I love that snarky comment!
is that horn of winter there between dragon glasses?!!!
Outghta be Sam finds tooth brush.
It looked like it was dragons carved on the horn
what episode was thia
Mostely the 6th episode of the 2nd season
what happened to that horn?
+Koryn Boyd In the books, Sam has it. I don't think it's been seen again in the show since this scene.
+Koryn Boyd It should look broken though.
Don't you just love good writing...
The discovery of dragon glass was even better in the books. I just read the chapter. It was Ghost who found it and brings Jon in the middle of the night to see.
It was actually a pretty scary sequence.
I need to know the music!!
Darude - Sandstorm
the joramun ??
too bad it was all lost when hardhome fell
Well, sam didn't find it did he lol
I wish D&D didn’t kill grenn
C[mon. What about the Horn ... Dragon Horn that is clearly with the Dragon Glass?
No it is an auroch’s horn .. an old warhorn as in the books
One of the cases when the plot works for them but they don't use them
The second I saw them and everytime I resaw I was like: -If the first men defeated them using this (they must've been doing something right) we should also (or at least try to) use these on them.
Its strange that there is a horn with the glass and its never been mentioned again. GOT writer's don't include something and than forget about it, there has to be a reason the horn is there.
hahahaha this aged so well.....
Is that the horn of winter?
+MagicalWellecto92 what is horn of winter? I haven't read the books.
+Lofi it can destroy the wall
+xtreme gamer wow, so much have leave behind from books
MagicalWellecto92 or a horn to warn Against white walkers lol not hard to figure out
The first men made these marks help me with it, Sam then does nothing
why are they digging?
First, they were digging latrines for the Watch. And when Grenn found the Dragonglass, they were send to find other caches.
Toilet hole
I don't remember why they were digging in the first place
Searching for this myself while rewatching the show, doesn’t make sense
What was the point of even showing the horn in the show?
just a random horn there amongst weapons to kill white walkers. so uh, whats up with that
fearedfizzle a horn to warn of white walkers. Three blast to warn against them. Seriously you overthink it lol
don't maesters also swear off all lands and titles? why didn't sams dad send him to the citadel. it sure is more honorable to have a son who is a measter one would thing
Because no Tarly should wear a chain like some dog, Tarly's are a long line of proud warriors.. so Sam was sent to the wall to 'defend' the realm.
@@vylvylvyl8532 ah, that makes "sense". not irl. but for the character. the father was a right prick. diversify your assets. no wonder his house died out
his dad thought him soft and that is why he told him to renounce his name... probably not someone who accepts your flaws and encourages you to pursue those goals...
just realised that that could be the horn of winter thats surpass to bring down the wall
this is NOT at all how it actually happened in the books.
Sam didn't find shit
Another plot that came to nothing.
the way none of this meant anything after season 8