DEAD MALL SERIES : FOREST FAIR VILLAGE MALL Ft. Music by Dan Mason ダン·メイソン
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Dan, I had been to a mall in Cincinnati that had a name similar to this. The distinct attraction that mall had was a Ferris wheel that was located in the middle. If you are from this area maybe you know the mall I'm referring to? Also, the Jeffersonville outlets had two different malls one exit on I-71 apart. The one outlet completely closed and if still standing might be a good venue to take a trip back in time.
@@jojowhite9296 it's the same mall. The ferris wheel was removed during one of the renovations.
The security guard on the segway was probably just trying to beat his previous best lap.
thats what I would be doing if I was him
+thehankman100 ikr
Alan Greer Hold my beer.
There's literally 1 security guard in the whole place. He rides around fast because he can. What would you do if you were there on a Segway all day every day with no one around? Security used to have an official SUV for patrolling outside, but it is abandoned in the lower level of the parking garage, has more than 1 flat tires, and hasn't run in years. I wonder what they'll do if their Segway ever dies? If I were him, I would ditch the Segway and ride a skateboard through the mall - the mall is set up awesome for that!
I bet he can't beat Paul Blart's time.
I go here all the time I was at forestfare mall last weekend. The saddest part is they decorate this place for thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter it makes me feel so sad that they put this effort in when hardly anyone comes 😥🥺
I went there today for the first time for the arcade legacy. It's crazy
Superblamblamman awesome 🤙 it’s such a crazy place so much fun
no one comes because apptly forest park "youths" killed this place, according to everyone who ever tried to shop there in the 90s
its because of online shopping
@@vincentnguyen957 that mall died long before amazon
What fascinates me about these malls is that it's almost like you're traveling back in time, they all still have that very distinctive 80's/90's look to them that feels so weird to see today.
Totaly agree. If they wanted a place for a movie that takes place in the 80-90s, then they would just have to fill the mall with stores and people walking around with clothes that match that period.
The mall was heavily revamped in the early 2000s. Beforehand it didn't have that heavy pastel semi-zerust asthetic.
@@ruach2283 shhhhh, let the kids dream ther modern-retro dreams.
@@ruach2283 so they chose to make it look older?
@@rosemariehowes7707 the aesthetic isn't very 80s, it's more 90s to 00s, with the pastel colours, bright patterned carpets, the almost intentionally clashing colours. there's a whole load of research done into why we merge the space between 1985-2003 in our heads, but this is definitely a mall with strong turn of the millennium aesthetic.
This is like introverted millennial heaven: an empty mall with a fully functioning arcade.
I'm happy there is an arcade there, now as when it first died the amazing arcade it had in the late 80s early 90s died with it. Visiting this mall as a teenager was really depressing.
careful what you wish for
Its so fun to go there I go with my friends every Friday and it's an absolute treat the staff is amazing and we've made friends with the security guard lmao
why are millennials so socially inept seemingly moreso than any other generation
@@moonjimunji7916 Kinda fucked up you equate introverted with socially inept...
You know it is a dead mall when the escalators are turned off
$7 to spend all day in a real, old mall arcade? Yes, please.
As a local, I can confirm that Arcade Legacy is by far the coolest place ever. They have nice staff. Their games are retro as well as newer games as well. Definitely worth going if you're in town!
Hoe the hell is this place not brimming with hipsters and parents with children? You can't find any other form of entertainment that cheap. I'd spend my whole weekends there!
@@theproplady on Thursdays they hold the local Smash community tournament
@To La the location means it's more underground. Aside from the arcade machines they also sell old games and host parties
They also have a barcade with the same principle if you buy from the bar the games are free
Update on this location: It closed for good earlier this week and is to be demolished. As always, thank you Dan for archiving these amazing places before they disappear!
Ngl there were so many "any day now" moments that I was so surprised when I found out it actually closed
Who pays for all the lights that are ON, maintaining everything, elevators, etc? I imagine the electricity bill is huge.
@@kdesSomeone in another video said that corporations get sweet package deals on practically free electricity.
This is probably similar to tax cuts that rich corporations get. For them, it is really just penny's. Where a citizen who flicks on a light switch pays the regular price for all their electricity
@@aazhie Thanks, I was wondering the same thing. My girlfriend and I went to Cincinnati about a month ago and I just had to visit this mall and noticed all the lights were still on…… despite all the entrances being boarded up
This mall was the largest mall in the world when it opened. Another interesting fact is that the mall was never able to rent all of its space, not even close. It has always had financial trouble.
That’s why you don’t build the largest mall... in Ohio.
I saw a video of the current largest mall in the world in China. There was room for more than 2000 shops but there were only 6 open shops when the filmmakers visited it.
@@Ozymandias1 I think they have entire new cities like that in China.
AvariceUntied That gross domestic product
Which doesn't make sense, really...the county this mall opened in has less than 400k people today: apparently they were expecting people from several counties to frequent this place weekly. It wasn't realistic...talk about biting off more than you can chew.
Imagine bringing roller skates to this mall
+Stratacrew Mayor185 BLADES!
That'd be so cool 😍
+This is Dan Bell. But roller skates will fit better with that music choice lol.
i've always wanted to do that omg
+Stratacrew Mayor185 My first thought.. after some good arcade gaming of course
super a e s t h e t i c
You know a mall is done when the theater goes under.
They actually had 2 theaters. One had new movies the other had cheap older ones.
That strikes a cord with me.
My local "mall" had a pretty cool theatre in it that closed last year. I remember hearing about it and commenting that it was a shame and a freind asked "it's a shame, but when was the last time you went?"
My answer was "last month".
It was the only place I ever watched movies anymore. It was affordable and had a nice cozy/homey/nostalgicy feel.
Either way now its closed its just a big permanently under construction barriers eyesore in the middle of a mall that has a grocery store at one end and a dollar store at the other and not much else.
Pool hall is still there though so that's something.
So true. Its either the first death rattle or the last, w slow decline in the middle.
I keep thinking that a hoard of zombies are just around the corner
Pills here!
Minlow
I was thinking the exact same thing!! : )
Yes! Dawn of the Dead feeling to it.
If they haven’t done a survival horror game that takes place in a dead mall, they should
they were all slaughtered before deadmallseries arrived, by some guy at capcom
I can only imagine walking into this mall expecting to go shopping. I would be so freaked out.
We were at Kings island about a year ago and went to this mall trying to get some shoes. We were shocked lol
I was last there in 2013 with some friends who wanted to check out the arcade. That is how I felt the whole time: freaked out. 0_0
i kinda feel like the huge vacant parking lot would be a big tip off on that one
dude yeah. Being in a dead BIG building freaks me out so much for some reason. I already freak out when Im in a mall near closng time, let alone being in a dead mall like this
Peacelover, what's funny is I kinda blame the British for my fear of huge abandoned places because I saw the movie 28 days later. I've been to places like this and couldn't stop my imagination from going wild. I kept waiting for something dangerous to shoot out of the dark spots in the mall and kill me. LOL. There's a mall like this in my city that's SLIGHTLY better but the entire upper floor is abandoned. The 9-10 stores that are surviving are all close together on the ground floor. Oddly, Gamestop is there and it's usually busy!
The nostalgia feeling mixed with sadness is intense.
DysfunctionalDavid yes, so true.
yeah agreed; I think its a sign we're moving past the golden days of US economic expansionism and the American dream and into a post-consumption era of self isolationism and deterioration of personal identity, that's why maybe its disturbing watching this
all nostalgia is sad when theres nothing cool and fun to be excited about anymore
That candy has been in that candy dispenser since 1989 lol
perfect recipe for death lmao
I’m 63 years old - I met my wife in a mall. This is so depressing. Married now 30 Years. Malls were social gatherings, now you have social media .. a very different world
Social media will never be a sufficient replacement for sensing, laughing and arguing to each other in person, but instead make many even lonelier and socially inept staring at a screen all day its a real shame. I kinda missed out on the glory age of malls as I was born in 89, but do remember many of them booming in the late 90's even for me it's sad to see so many of them die off.
I didnt meet my wife at the mall bit when we first started dating she worked at a mall. That mall has long since been torn down.
So sad seeing these once vibrant, lively, social hubs become just memories. So pleased my 56yo self got to experience them when they were at their peak.
And this is why today’s generation is spoiled yet doomed in all realities
I wish they could turn this into a community college or something. The inside looks really nice.
I accidentally stumbled upon this place when travelling to Cincinnati a year ago. It was one of the weirdest experiences ever; it felt like I wasn't supposed to be inside. At nighttime it was really creepier, since most of the lights were off or dimmed.
I disagree, considering my experience.
ikr?! its so creepy at night
This place would be great as a retirement community with homes built into the where the shops used to be. $$$ I am telling you!
@michael battista this seems like an interesting idea I was thinking also you could have offices. But one problem I thought about is what about no windows inside the stores? Did the other location you mentioned renovate to add windows because without would be very depressing?
or turn the whole thing into a massive paintball/lazerquest arena, or hell, you could outfit the whole thing to do VR tracking like those void locations, and you could have a VR zombie mall invasion
What a cute community housing idea. Like a college building. But in a mall layout. Dips on bestbuy!
@@pkop4 not so much if it was organized around a condominium people could contract for modifications like that and indoor farming in the open spaces. if a school was in an anchor store it would help. add a public library.
maxbored
Deadmalls are haunted.
I personally think malls can be a thing of the future again, just have to think outside the box.
@untrepid two i as well.
Amazon killed the Mall star
I think it's going to be a cycle. Currently, outdoor malls and downtowns are the trend, but it might swing back the other way in a few decades. Sadly, it will probably be too late to save any of this.
Oh yes. "Outside the box". We should be "proactive" too. Additionally, we should "work smarter not harder". Then we should "brainstorm" with like minded people and generate "synergy". Because in this world, "there are no strangers, just friends you haven't met yet"..........I could do this all night. But you should get another turn.
Outdoor malls remain reasonably popular: I think people just got tired of wandering through these massive structures just to get to the 3 or 4 stores they were interested in.
This shit is so dream-like it's scary. I'm sure many here use to have anxiety dreams about school where you were late for class or forgot to prepare for finals and it was finals day but when you go to class there's nobody there. This feels like the same thing.
Bc of free trade a lot of foreign asian companies come in and build shit houses/structures in Canada and America.
I couldn’t breathe when i started the video i was taken aback because it feels exactly like the dozens of dreams i’ve had with almost this exact setting. the same feeling. being late to class but just running around this HUGE mall with no exit. wtffff
same about it being dream-like, but it's a good/lucid dreaming feel to me because some of my coolest lucid dreams ended up starting in malls or large office buildings at night. The ones that start in school usually aren't frequent enough or worth the stress leading up to them lol
I often have dreams where I go to an active mall but find some separate path to a unique area of the mall most people never find.
lol walking out the doors would make you feel like you were stuck on a stranded island. people omg i missed you so much. they be like where were you, i was in the mall. their response, it's over now you are safe.
I'd go there for the 7$ day arcade.
SNJ Any idea what that game was @ 8:02?
@@utubepunk
Magic Sword
I don't usually leave comments. But since I've been to this mall over 200 times in all of its different iterations throughout the years, I feel compelled to say a few things:
1. When the mall changed to Cincinnati Mills, and from 2003 - 2008, this place was extremely popular. I was in high school then, and this was an every weekend hangout for me and my friend, as well as so many others that I knew. You could see the theater in the video above the food court , that was the main theater, and was always packed. There was another "old movie" theater that was cheaper past the food court.
2. Even though it seems so hollow and massive now, every store and every hallway was filled on Friday and Saturday nights. Food court, theater, and all. There was even a grocery store near one of the entrances. Very much turned from an inside city-life to the walking dead.
3. I hadn't been for many years after until 2013 (college), and when I came back it was completely different. Most of the major stores were gone, and other smaller businesses swapped in and out not surviving. I was came back to compete in Tekken tournaments at Arcade Legacy (the one shown here). Friends with the owner and staff there, and they are still operating and have expanded their locations (highly recommend these arcades). But the mall itself was dead and by the time it came 2015, everything was wiped out besides Bass Pro Shop and Arcade Legacy.
Place holds a very special place in my heart. First kiss here, first time competing in a gaming tournament here, and most and last times spent with my best friend from those days.
This is so wholesome. Thanks for sharing! I'm a Cinci transplant originally from Detroit. I went to AL for the first time in 2014 when the movie theater was still open. Went a few times after, the last I think maybe spring of 2022.
This actually make me want to just go walk around the mall while it’s still here before it disappears along with old childhood memories.
I was in there yesterday (10-18-16) and there was no music even playing and you could hear a pin drop. I felt like I was trespassing but yet it is still opened to the public. So strange
moosefactory133 arcade still there?
Sabina Cruz yes. I go there every thursday lol
Don brave of you to stay on RUclips! Aren't you worried about people stalking you?
Sabina Cruz I could use a good stalking
I'm going next month to go to the arcade. I cannot wait.
This mall has such strange interior decorating! It reminds me of Innoventions from Epcot and Disneyland and also of Tomorrowland in Disneyland.
Seeing this makes me feel a certain sadness. I mean not for just me but humanity.
Why?
r/iam14andthisisdeep
@@nonautemrexchristus5637 r/hyperintelligentresponse
It's okay, we're already doomed as a species. Good to get on board the train early!
I get that same feeling when I see stuff like this
You know what he should do for a new series.He should make a “the most popular malls series” where he goes to the most popular malls
I'd watch that!
Ugh
The whole point of the mall series is to explore almost abandoned malls for entertainment, nostalgia, vapor wave, inform, and show off retro architecture. If you wanna see popular malls watch any Vlog of any RUclipsr ever
We can all do that any time
If any of the malls in the series were successfully revitalized it'd be really interesting to come back for a before and after.
I live less than 5 minutes from this mall. Man. This mall had great memories. From the 2 movie theaters, to the HUGE Arcade game room. Every weekend, this place was PACKED. Sad to see how it's turned out. You can go over there today, and all youll see is people walking through the mall for exercise purposes. One of the main reasons stores emptied out is because they were charging stores too much money for rent.
For laughs, you should call the mall and ask them how much would they charge to advertise your Dead Mall Series on the signage seen at 8:22
Almost 2020 and it's still like this. I looked at the mall when it was warmer (December at the time I made this comment) and what I saw was:
-There's no music.
-Despite what he said, Bass Pro Shop is still there.
-There was one kids' play area with at the time deflated bounce pads that I assume is used for birthday parties.
-Arcade Legacy is still there, but I checked the mall out early in the morning, so it wasn't open yet.
-There were some veterans sitting in a circle of fold-able chairs, probably having a meeting.
-There were a bunch of Geese outside. I tried opening one of the doors to find it was locked and one flipped out and flew towards me. I booked it out of there. Geese have no chill.
I think at the time, Bass Pro Shops was looking to move. I remember hearing something about that but I could be wrong or plans fell through.
I live around the corner. Is the arcade open?
there is also a clothing store with no employees or customers that I saw, and tournaments and a bounce area was set up (quite large) when i went. I went super late so it was fairly creepy, and I didn't know if we were trespassing for certain until we saw other people.
@@blacknbougie8021 its been open for quite a while, i doubt its going to close unless its forced to
@@zilchdevotegaming6710 yeah I called. Thanks😊
I remember how popular that place was in the early 90s. We hung out there as teens
This mall represents how empty I feel inside.
Grind City ask Jesus into your heart and get a hold of a Holy Bible and you will be empty inside no more :)
Black holes mine
This would be a great location for an old school 90's/early 2000's Rave.
You're cool.
maybe a secret russian spy facility, doing "research" into the paranormal.
We could make this happen. We have the interwebs you know.
Why a rave of all things?
Getting the Starcourt vibe from Stranger Things Season 3.
I was looking for this comment!
MrRawr2013 Same
Every time I watch one of these videos, a part of me wonders why they don't convert places like this into living spaces. I would rent the frack out of an apartment set up like that.
It would be so strange and cool wouldnt it? You walk outside your apartment and you're inside a giant lobby.
Can’t remember where I saw it but there was a short documentary or journalism piece on a dead mall converted into apartments. Looked like a little village
Great idea, and I think it could work, it’s just very hard to find investors willing to take the risk, especially since 2008 market crash those with money are much more reluctant to invest in new/innovative projects.
It would be an amazing place to live, all that space?! It would work!!
The only issue I could see with that would be the plumbing issues with setting up the restrooms unless people were ok with sharing a limited amount of public bathrooms.
I would go there alone for that arcade. $7 all day, what a bargain.
Neir
Neiru lots of people do. he didn't show it, but there's also 3 big TV's with more modern consoles hooked up to them. Lots of kids playing Minecraft. They also sell used retro games/systems and DVDs
A lot of the big arcades that still remain are like that now, where there's a daily fee for unlimited play (or even a monthly membership fee... there's one in Dallas that charges $25 a month. Unlimited play, all day, every day.)
I've been there, pretty fun to hang out, game, and play some ping pong.
You think this is kickass, the same guys opened up a bar version of this setup in downtown Cincinnati
And since this video, that consignment shop has gone, and there are less lights on upstairs. There are also buckets catching water in various places, as the building has serious leaks. Everything looks more dirty than it does in this video. They've also shut off the AC.
Security is still there on Segways, speeding around. They caught me taking a photo and said "Hey, we can't have you taking pictures of the building." I was already done with my 150 shots though.
That's bullshit. It's still a public place: you can film/take photos all you like.
Lol I wonder what it’s like in 2019
@@Isa-cr7fd I just commented only thing left is bass pro kohl's and the arcade. Lots of roof widows cracked or missing buckets everywhere
@@encycl07pedia- lol malls are private property, not public. They can ban you taking pictures if they want. However, it would be stupid and confusing if they did lol
@@TryckSpot Lots of private properties are public places, you dingus. They can tell you to leave, but they can't tell you not to take pictures. There's no expectation of privacy (unless it's in a bathroom or something).
Learn the difference between a public place and public property.
Is this an April fools? How on earth is it economically viable to keep it open? It must be pissing money by the minute.
It gets passed around by private equity firms as a write off
It's still open
So much of my childhood was spent at this mall, it was 5 minutes away from where my grandparents lived, my grandma worked at Biggs when it was there, I got my ears pierced at the Claire's there, so many of my favorite movies I watched I saw in that theater, and I lost my first tooth on the playground in there. To this day we still go in and just take in the memories of what used to be.
steamed keyboard is a delicacy in some countries.
it is usually eaten with a side of steamed mouse
Is that what they eat in Japan?
Is that why they’re so technically advanced?
Someone call Elon, and tell him merging man and machine was easier than he thought.
Oh? What are the key ingredients?
But they are obviously grilled!
@@LoneWulff829 Alphabet soup.
That arcade is sweet. I'd pay $7 for a couple of hours there.
Sweet like candy?
OMG! I just joined your page. Your music is incredible! I'm 65 and live in the Atlanta area and your music takes me back to when I was younger. We had a club here in the early 80's called the Limelight and this reminds me of the music they played. I used to live in the malls and clubs. Keep up the great work!
These malls are time capsules it’s insane. Always give me anxiety though lmao
Me too, it's like a part of yourself slipping away
I was hoping you'd cover this place, it always reminds me of a '90s Nickelodeon game show set :D
Wow! A wild Larry appeared!
EVERY COMMENT YOU POST IS READ IN YOUR VOICE BY MY BRAIN
I know right Larry!
You are everywhere I go on here
Are you me?
Dan Bell, I sure wish I knew you was in my area, this mall used to be about 95% full occupancy. I worked at Biggs hypermarket back in 1992 and it was weird because it was a grocery store inside a mall! People would actually get their grocery carts outside the mall at three different entrances on the far end of the mall. Biggs was open 24 hours so they had 24 security. This mall had 2 different movie theater chains there, Showcase Cinemas and Super Saver Cinemas owned by Danbarry Cinemas. I really wish I knew you was coming as I could have helped telling lots of history of this mall. Yes there was a full size amusement park inside this mall. Ferris Wheel was right where the food court is along with the Carousel, Bumper cars, Laser tag, putt putt golf, small Rollercoaster, and a few more small kids rides. There was all kinds of things for kids to do there at one time and it was known as a babysitting service for the parents on the weekends. That mall was packed especially on the weekends. Kohls in that mall is closing soon. It's been announced that about 22 Kohls stores was closing and that one is one of them. Bass Pro is leaving sometime in 2017 I think the spring. They are building a new one on Interstate 75 at Union Center Blvd across from where tons of development has been happening. I would say once Bass Pro leaves, this mall will have the final nail in its coffin. If not sooner! It's such a beautiful mall and you didn't show the huge parking garage behind the mall. They used to have July 4TH Red White and Kaboom off the top of the parking garage that was a super huge event in the Fairfield, Forest Park Ohio areas. Now you see exactly where the original name came from. The mall borders these two cities, however it sits in Fairfield Ohio. across the highway from the mall used to be a huge Wal Mart that also closed a couple years ago.
In Middletown Ohio just north from this mall off I 75, was and still is kind of a dead mall. The Towne Mall there was almost gone. Sears and an Auto center owned by Sears and Elder Beerman stores stuck it out and now that mall is showing signs of re-birth. The owner of that mall has really changed what was a dead mall into something that is going to make the mall rebound back into a shopping facilty. It's amazing how this mall has changed and still is in the process of changing. If you ever make it back this way, I can take you too several malls that are really having it rough. Also I can show you where a brand new type of outdoor mall that recently opened at a cost of $330 million dollars. The place is huge with luxury Cinemas, a full scale Hotel still under construction, almost completed, and tons of upscale type dining places. Contact me in the future, many malls that are dead in my area, Sw Ohio, Northern Kentucky areas. Be safe my friend and thank you for your uploads and time.
When I was a kid the whole mall was awesome, best movie theater and arcade of its time.
Lots of memories there as a kid, mainly the arcade it was awesome
8:17 "LOOKING TO PROMOTE YOUR BUSINESS?"
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Spent a lot of time at this mall as a kid, it's so depressing to see how dilapidated it's gotten. In the 90s it was awesome - there was a carousel and ferris wheel, a mini golf course, and a giant indoor sandbox. My family used to do all of our grocery shopping at the Biggs that was inside and I bought many years of school supplies there. And now I'm depressed. :/
Hang in there dude! New fads and places will be made to enjoy, malls were great while they lasted but who knows what's next.
1 dollar movies was pretty good but really man that mall sucked. Large groups of black teens running around causing trouble, stealing shit, scaring off people who actually bought stuff. Doomed to fail because of it's location. Forest Park is a crappy place.
R S what replaces these malls?
@@BlackLabelSlushie Amazon, strip malls, and walmart.
It's where I bought my wife's engagement ring 22 years ago...
This mall definitely has a mid 2000's vibe going on
Decor was redone in early-mid 2000's that would be why. LOL.
Ooh hearing Bay City play as if it's echoing softly through the halls of this sad empty shell of a mall filled me with a deep nostalgia for something I've never experienced. It's haunting
Dude, this looks like the mall they used in stranger things! Star court mall
Great place to run/walk in winter.
Not just winter but summer too when the temps get too high.
It won't be good in the summer, as they have the AC shut off, and are just running it on vent. I went there yesterday and it was hot.
I went yesterday and the AC was clearly on, so not sure what happened the day you went. Maybe they had a problem with it.
I have to revise my statement. I've been going a few times a week to walk and now I've noticed that the mall is not fully air conditioned. There are a couple parts that clearly are AC, but most of it is not. Still I find the mall preferable to walking in the hot 90 degree sun. The mall isn't stuffy so Corey is probably right about most of it operating on vent.
Ah ha! Thx.
The flying pig sculptures with the outstretched hoofs really gives it that end of world feel
Those pigs can be seen all over Cincinnati. Most of them are downtown but some have been moved to the suburbs, like the ones you see in this mall. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Pig_Gig
IemonandIime thanks for link, where I’m from they did that once with sheep statues all over the place... apparently farm animals across the country have been painted and put into funny poses for the enjoyment of the locals, and apparently to be used later to decorate banks and malls
Fortwayne Indiana did the same think with mastodon statues for some reason
Cincinnati had a large population of German and Irish immigrants. Sausage and beer producers right on the river for easy transport. Lot of festivals to celebrate both like Flying pig marathon, Oktoberfest, chili competitions. Pigs made this city.
I like to imagine that in around 5-10 years time we'll see this place reappear completely abandoned on some urban exploration channel
Sadly it's been in this condition (not nearly as brightly-painted, of course!) for nearly 20 years now. So it was actually more abandoned looking before Mills got a hold of it and even more depressing. Even when the occupancy was maybe 20-25%, it still felt strange and empty and like you were intruding. Sad.
Your prediction was correct
do you know where I can find the video?@@db9721
OMG I know where that mall is I haven't been back to Cincinnati in some 20 years LOL. Damn that mall used to be busy when I was a kid. Crazy how time flies and things change.
I love the early 2000s decor and big open spaces. Makes me feel nostalgic.
I think the 2000's where extravagant then people remember, I feel like they had slightly more wild designs and people had more of a creative licence then they do now.
This mall for made in the late 80s I think.
The color scheme screams 80s.
More like mid 90’s or later. The large images of people on the walls like the one in the food court aren’t 80’s style at all. 80’s malls were more about shiny metal like brass or mirrors everywhere.
@@monalisa9636 this mall was renovated in 2004.
These dead mall videos always give me a very macabre sense of nostalgia, It's odd to remember 20 years ago when people would flock to these places with disposable income's. Now the economy is terrible and everyone's struggling.
Mikenactor The advent of the internet and ecommerce changed the shopping landscape. Malls are not dead and will never completely die. Thanks to the internet, we just don't need as many as we once did.
***** I agree :) I still have a couple in my area.
Mikenactor that's not it, America is lazy and entitled now! Shopping online whenever you want and food delivery services did this.
You don't really know many of the words you're using.
coreydl2008 still more words then are in your limited vocabulary.
I bartended the Grand Opening Gala (private party), featuring entertainment by Marie Osmond. Many of the stores were still vacant when it opened. The party was 500 guests, and the meal included prime rib, new potatoes and broccoli. The deserts were served by tuxedo-wearing servers, who formed a long line, while descending twin escalators in perfect tandem. Each cheese cake had sparklers on top. A grand event.
I remember this place being built in the late eighties I used to cycle cross on this lot and it had a nice theater and arcade but it has always been mostly empty and struggled to survive.
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+The Proper People OMG! DAN LOOK WHO COMMENTED!!
I told you all to come North here in Ohio and there is lots of abandoned factories and stuff in this area!!
The aesthetic of that place is pretty cool
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+Jessica I've always wondered what that meant too lol
tall32guy I'm wondering what that has to do with what I commented 😂
+Jessica I used to go to this mall when I was young - it was really amazing then ....
beyond sad
I grew up in malls during the 1980s, I loved malls, sad to see them go.
I went to this mall when it opened. I was about 10 years old. It was HUGE. But there was also two huge malls right down the street, Northgate and Tri-County. Did noone consider that there might be a limit to the amount of malls you need? But the arcade was kick ass. Anyone remember those?
That arcade is fucking lit
iPolitely arcades are a dying art.
I go there and it is pretty lit
I wonder how it feels to work in a dying mall. You can't get much business
Working in a dying mall is incredibly boring...you get no business...you see no people...you get paid to do nothing basically.
+Kerri Blais I imagine that you don't get as many hours though and there a probably very few employees working a shift at once.
+Nick Arnold That's probably the most soul-crushing part of it, especially for small chains or independent stores. Hours and hours alone.
***** I love being alone, but honestly it would probably get unnerving after hours and hours
Nick Arnold usually only part time hours.
I went here early on as a teenager and remember being super enthusiastic about it the first time. I was from the Dayton area so didn't go there many times before its semi-demise. What I remember, perhaps not all accurately:
It was ambitious and BIG, the biggest mall I had been to. Biggs was the first superstore in a mall that I had seen and hadn't been in many in general. Meijer I think was the first for me. It felt strange with the huge open entrance with the numerous cashier lanes. In retrospect, it would have been an interesting battle for security.
It had a two-level food court. There were rides. There was a great arcade. There was a second-run theater but with quite a few screens. I think it was $2 at all times. This was interesting to me because much of the rest of the mall, was aiming for high-end tenants. Being young, I wasn't familiar with Bonwit Teller or B.Altman but I knew they were high-end and now know they were around a long time, just not in the malls in southwest Ohio to my knowledge. It was half-empty but I thought it was going to be a serious destination soon. They had a LOT of spots to fill. It was probably bankrupt when it opened. I was disappointed it fell apart.
I think I went to it once in its later stage and seem to remember four bars/nightclubs on one open wing (maybe country, sports, dance club, and comedy??).
Thanks for posting. I find the history of retail and the demise of malls to be fascinating.
They should turn these malls into indoor pub crawls and pool halls. Nightlife entertainment all in one location. College students would live there.
they tried to run a bunch of nightclubs in it in the early 2000s but the area attracted the wrong crowd so to speak so it too failed
I used to go there with friends in about 97 when it was a bar it had 3 bars that you could freely walk around to each one. It was called Bourbon Street. It was a Country Western Bar I think it was called Cheyenne's, a Techno Bar which was always empty, 80's 90's type Bar that was so packed that you could hardly move through it. So Weird to see this 22 years later.
@Tristan Wright Actually it MIGHT be a good idea for that very reason. Keeping the intoxicated people in, literally, ONE location where several pubs/bars could be located. Versus all around town being nuisances and pub crawling/public intoxication out in the open. Then again, I don't much prefer drinking in bars and such to begin with....
Who’s gonna clean the vomit off the carpet??!
@Tristan Wright First rule of Fight Mall...you do NOT talk about Fight Mall.
This is so crazy. This is where I live! I never had the chance to see this mall in all its glory but from what I've heard this was the place to be if you were a kid in Cincinnati. It's such a shame that the mall fell into the wrong hands. Fun fact: I almost broke my arm here once because I tripped over a rug.
lol sad that mall (cincinnati mills) is like 5 minutes from my house...it used to be a busy mall. my daughter classmates dad owns the arcade legacy. when Biggs (a grocery store) left the mall it went downhill from there. It was brought by a group of developers. They went up on the rent of the stores and the stores didnt produce enough revenue to make a profit. The same developer brought the Salem Mall in Trotwood Ohio and needless to say the whole mall was torn down and the land was sold to home depot within 4 years. The Tri County Mall is next on the hit list of dead malls.
Just went to tri county and there was nothing there except a porygon, but my friend and I went because Reddit said it was a hypno spawn. GameStop and Game Swap (retro store) are the only worthwhile things there now
I agree as everything good is gone or moved to liberty. we have kenwood which is much better than tri county. the only good thing is cinnabon.
Classic80sStuff there actually is an arcade there!!! And it is dedicated to old school and new gaming. My daughter goes to school with the owners son so we were invited to a birthday party there so we didn't pay. From what I saw the prices were reasonable.I think for $10 you can play all the games all day long. The arcade game don't cost either. It was neat seeing a setup like that. Its located directly across from the food court. I think the old one was at the end by the movies.
Not the same exact machines. A lot of the same titles though. I used to play there as a kid, and worked at Time Out as a Teen, and and Wonderpark. The arcade thats there now is a whole new place, and the mall is it's 3rd location, Arcade Legacy started out as Arcade Legends out on Rt4, then moved to Springdale, then the mall. Now in addition there is bar in northside, and a new location in Newport.
I find it difficult to believe these malls can't be repurposed into something useful. Condos, apartments, offices, clinics, etc. 80% of the parking lot could be sold off for a cash infusion.
These are well constructed buildings with healthy infrastructures.
Besides, if they bulldoze it, what's gonna replace it? Condos, apartments, offices, clinics, etc. 😏
They turned a dead mall near me into a community college. I havent been in it since it changed over though.
This is a twenty minutes from my house and I go there sometimes to draw, it’s so cool!! I had so many childhood memories there
doesn't matter how good you make a place llook if it's in a poor location.
LOCATION,LOCATION,LOCATION
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When they built it, it may have been a great location. Sad how quickly things can change.
We had a great mall in Council Bluffs Iowa. it was built in a circle. They built a new mall and it died, so they started making office space in it in the mid to late 90s. Now the other bigger mall is dying.
UPDATE ON THE MALL: AC is Turned Off Accept for the Remaining Anchors, the Closed Parking Garage and Arcade Legacy, Babies "R" Us has Closed Following Toys R Us's Bankruptcy, Bass Pro's Plans to Move Failed and they remain at the mall to this day, Music is also something that is non-Existent at the Mall.
I Visited the Mall July 13th 2018, and this is how it was during that day.
UPDATE ON THE MALL: Ac is still off, Babies R Us is still closed and untouched. More old stores in the mall are now used as storage. In some places the roof has started to collapse, and the floor dry rotten. Even the elevator has officially been shut down. There is also word that the old Biggs might be turned into an ice skating rink. Also there is still AC in Bee Active fitness.
@@asherrivers3740 how about the arcade?
still up and running
@@asherrivers3740 ice rink would be great. Then maybe more stores. Drop the rent crazy low to get stores in there am then once the mall starts to thrive slowly raise it to were the owner makes money but the business could thrive. This mall could be a huge asset to the town if done right
@@jessa3142 on top of the ice rink, have a ciniplex.
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"Han K You" .... Well renowned Korean film.
I walked through here in 2020. The arcade was still there but about 1/4 of the games no longer worked. They also resold vintage video games and consoles.The overall condition did not change much save for all the food courts being closed.
I just wanna know how long those m&ms have been in that candy machine lol
Trust me...you don't....LOL
I thought of the same exact thing, lol
Since the dawn of time.
probably 10 years lmao (maybe more years)
that arcade is still open today! me and my friends go there every once in a while, its a great place
Why did everyone leave the mall
The actress at the beginning is Deborah Shelton. She was in 'Body Double', which has a great sequence located at the Rodeo Collection shopping mall, that was the first movie ever shot there.
I was in there many years ago when it was doing good and the reason it started to die was because of the type of people that started to hang out at the mall, they were very loud and disruptive and stealing, the neighbor hood around the mall is poor.....and the mall was built far from the major population.
I'm actually from that area and can give you a bit more history as to what happened (not that you did a bad job or anything) When it was Forest Fair Mall it still had whole wings of empty stores but it did great because of a few things.
One was Time Out which had not only Arcades (and yes I meant that plural) it had mini golf, a merry-go-round, an honest to god Ferris wheel and other things that kids loved. It had good anchor stores that did good business even after the change. It had a cheap theater that they put back after Showcase Cinemas left. But the best thing of all it had a Bigg's Grocery store that was like a Meijer in that it sold not just food but clothes, toys, and other things. (Ironically Meijer would later open across the street from the mall.)
See the trick was people would go to the Bigg's in the mall to get some things and end up staying the whole day because kids would go hang out at Time Out while parents shopped and also go to the other stores as well. Bigg's brought the people in like flies to honey.
But after the switch and the name change the new owners in what I can only describe as one of the dumbest business ideas I've ever heard of thought that having a grocery store that BROUGHT PEOPLE IN BY LITERAL DROVES didn't fit with their outlook so they TRIPLED Bigg's rent Bigg's said see ya and left and took the crowds with them. It was like someone pulled the plug on the drain and it spiraled downhill from there.
Granted soon after Bigg's got bought by Rempke but it could have enjoyed a few more years and maybe after Bigg's left another store could have taken its place. So sadly as usual bad business brought me and my wife's childhood hangout to the decay you see. Sorry this went on so long but as you can see I really loved that mall.
KenBlake Thank you for mentioning Bigg's! I was sure this was the same Forest Fair Mall I used to go to. Late night shopping was always interesting.
Is that Yuki from Gravitation on your profile? :D
@@themuttonqueen1076 yes it is thanks for noticing :)
I remember this mall alot too. It had a jungle gym as well. There used to be an anchor there that was like an Office Depot, and man that electronics store had one of the best selections of PC computers games at the time. Such good memories there.
It use to have a huge bar/nightclub, it think they even had a bull
I live near to this mall and go to that awesome arcade on occasion. Just thought I'd lend a little story to this place. So, my friends and I had spent a few hours at the mall. We ate at the Japanese place Dan shows in the video (it actually is still open and the guy who owns it is super awesome). So, it's late at night, the mall's about to close and we're walking to the exit. They turn off all the lights like 30 minutes before they close in all areas except where the arcade is, so we're basically walking in the dark to get to the far end where we parked. Near the doors, they have one of those kid's areas with the small rides that move. As we approach, suddenly one of them just turns on and begins spinning for like three seconds and then stops. Probably the creepiest thing that's ever happened to me.
I would come here all the time as a kid. Johnny’s Toys, WonderPark, and the PBS playground bring back so many memories! I also remember the Biggs grocery story. So sad seeing this building go to waste.
Wow! when i lived over in Monroe, Ohio the Forest Fair Mall was the huge mall that you went to that had EVERYTHING how the mighty have fallen
I think it would be awesome if someone bought one of these old malls and turned the entire complex into a huge laser tag arena.
one day
+Nathan Scantling
Or a paintball arena.
Or a bicycle course.
Or skateboard park.
Or total free-for-all.
It's all good.
Still one of my favorite Dead Mall videos. Maybe it's so charming to me because there's a huge, and still active, mall in Grapevine Mills, TX that has similar decor and architecture.
And Dan Mason also ups the charm factor. He's awesome.
Most of the malls that were built or bought out by its former owners have pretty similar aesthetic iirc. Looking at it reminds me a lot of the Katy Mills mall, aside from that particular mall still being pretty active
I remember back when that mall first opened and it was a HUGE deal, or so it seemed at the time. It's nice to see that it's still active, although not too surprising since the economy in DFW is relatively steady.
Slight correction for those outside the area: Grapevine Mills is the name of the mall, and the city itself is just Grapevine, TX.,
Silver Amaryllis that mall you're talking about and this one were owned by the Mills Corporation. That's why the decor is so similar. The Pittsburgh Mills Mall (also dead now lol) looks exactly the same, decor wise.
Now that you point it out, the aesthetic of Grapevine Mills Mall is pretty similar to this place's.
Michael L. I was going to say a lot of these Malls with Mills in the name remind of Katy Mills including all the weird shapes and stuff but Katy Mills is always packed
The mall feels trapped don’t know how to explain it
this mall looks very nice inside tbh.. feels like a dream
My favorite mall from your Dead Mall Series.. This is definitely the "Titanic" of malls. So beautiful but so sad. The arcade is fantastic!! So strange to me as the mall in our town is always packed. I can't imagine this being torn down at some point... Thanks for sharing and please do more dead malls!
It's funny how in Europe buildings are hundreds of years old and still usable while here in the US something like a mall or stadium is 20-30 years old and it needs to be demolished.
Our country is always looking to the future and is all about innovation and new ideas, we don't want to be stuck in the past. Thats why.
@@LanaDayneIt's pretty wasteful to knock down a perfectly useable building.
@@LanaDayne It's about money, not "future and innovation." Also building codes.
"we don't want to be stuck in the past." This is why idiot criminal Trump is the president because his campaign slogan definitely didn't bring up a return to the past.
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encycl07pedia Ya know Trump is a lot of things but calling him an idiot after EVERYTHING that’s happened even STILL is kind of ironic, since he played ALL of his opponents like fiddles. He knows what he’s doing, and it got him the White House and you still think the choices he makes is idiocy, and that’s why he’ll win again because you still think that way and probably will continue to do so
Dude 7$ for the whole day? That's a damn steal, I'd travel just to check it out!
its pretty cool
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Stumbled in the mall a couple weeks ago and found out the we’re setting up for drone racing to take place in the middle of the night after the malls hours
That'd be so sick!
That should bring in some cash for the mall operators. Maybe it'll help them stay afloat a little bit longer.
I remember riding the carousel at Forest Fair Mall as a child! It was fun! I'm pretty sure my little stuffed white seal, "Hattie", was purchased here as well. That seems like lifetimes ago.
Malls were bustling with activity in the ‘80s. The internet killed them off.
Well, online shopping is killing department stores, and as the department stores close, the malls lose their anchor stores, which lowers foot traffic, which hurts the smaller tenants, which causes the mall to raise rents. It’s a vicious cycle.
@@DozensOfViewers The smaller stores inside ALWAYS die before the anchor stores do... i'm military and travel to a lot of cities... malls in the process of dying always lose the small stores first and the anchor stores last.... three things killed malls... store rent, Amazon and Walmart.
I feel like skaeboarding in the mall would be sick
I’ve longboarded around in it, definitely recommend
Definitely!
I keep going back to this video. I miss this mall.
Malls are strange things. You generally need to renovate them every 15 years or so to stay relevant and keep people coming back, so I imagine they have very high overhead. One of the most popular malls in the US during the 80s had to be the Sherman Oaks Galleria. This is the mall featured in many 80s movies. But it died in the mid 90s and more shopping centers were built, and the owners decided to transform it from a mall to a business complex. Sometimes to bring business back you literally have to tear half of the mall down and rebuild. This is what they did to a mall up the coast. It was a strange place because it was originally a small outdoor mall, and then they decided to put a canvas roof over the food court and joint it up with the department store and expand it into an actual real indoor mall. But that plan fell through and so it was essentially a one wing mall where the food court connected to the department store and there was this little nub of an area past that with a few more shops and a second level that never was opened. From the food court it looked like it would turn into an actual mall but it just dead ended. Eventually it underwent a massive renovation and they developed it into a real, full fledged mall. There's a mall not far from here owned by Westfield, which is a mall group I'm impressed with because they understand that malls need to be dynamic places. This particular mall of theirs was small but seemed to be doing well, and most mall groups would be content with that, but Westfield has decided to capitalize on, tear down most of the mall, and build it back bigger. It might seem like a big risk, and possibly they could lose a lot of money but accounting for the fact that you need to do this to malls every decade and a half anyway, you start to see it makes more sense to do it while the mall is doing well and you are turning a profit, than when the mall has started to die and you've been losing money for a while.
SepherStar:The Sherman Oaks Mall was torn down due to severe earthquake damage.Not because of failure.
Of all the Dead Mall series so far, this has to be the most impactful. No matter how much money you throw at the building, there's no saving it. No matter how many times you rename it, or fill it with trinkets, they will never come back. So now you are left with a gilded cage. A reminder that the good ole days will never return. I can hear Macintosh + playing in my mind when I imagine it.