Prequels expaned the universe, made the political conflict more complex rather just "good guys vs bad guys", put more work into worldbuilding, I don't understand how is that a bad thing? Palpatine uses Trade Federation to invade Naboo, plays a victum card and burocracy and becomes Chancellor. He through revolutionary Dooku orchestares Separatist movement to create outside enemy (typical dictator move), to get reason to start the war, get emergency powers, make Jedi look like agressive soldiers, conquer all the Galaxy in the "uniting it again" process and then executes all the Jedi, plays the security card and dictates the Empire, also destroying last of Separatists. That's actually brilliant.
Yes, not sure why people think Beurocracy is inherently bad, it's not like proper scrutiny shouldn't be given to things managed by a government given the things a government manages tend to effect the lives of all that it rules which can be literally billions of people.
Can't forget the gigabrain move in endearing himself to the public as a politician that cares for the people and then made everyone turn on the Jedi by weaponizing them figuring out he was a Sith Lord and attacking him as an assassination attempt on the life of the leader of the galaxy and used all of that to bag the formation of the Empire
im right there with you Priximus225. sure they have laughable dialog and questionable execution, but they are good movies with a great story. always loved them as a kid, and now i still love them, but so much more.
I think the most interesting thing about the prequels, is that the separatists aren't even really the bad guys. Sure they have bad people, like Count Dooku heading it, and the likes of Nute Gunray and General Grevious, but there were still systems who were just genuinely fed up with the republic, and for good reason You can't really blame the separatist alliance for becoming disillusioned with the republic, when in the end they were correct. Obviously the majority of the separatist senate didn't know that they were being played, just like the Jedi
I'd also imagine the more terrible acts committed by the separatists were done to make them look bad, and give the republic further excuse to support Palpatine and his efforts
Not to mention the immorality committed by the Jedi, like kidnapping kids, ignoring injustice over technicalities, enforcing peace by using force and more.
I don't think Dooku was even a bad guy to be honest. He genuinely believed that the Republic was a corrupt lost cause. It was just that Sidious got to him after.
@@cockerpoodles1238 He never really cared for the Sith, more like just using it as a means to an end. But I imagine using the dark side so much did corrupt him, since he still did some awful things
The sequels did one awesome thing: they inspired the rehabilitation of the prequels. I'm really glad that George Lucas got to see people appreciating his hard work during his lifetime.
As a kid i ignored the political story waiting for all the cool action, as an adult the debates are so fascinating to me now that i understand what they're saying, maybe they could have added more punch to those scenes, but they are very important to the story.
Agree! Something similar happend to me with Jurassic Park as a kid i only wanted to see dinosaurs eating people but as an adult i like those Ian Malcom scenes even more
Literally the entire sequel is just a straight up rehash of the OT. This makes me appreciate the prequels more, as I started to see the political parts of them once I started to get interested in real-world politics.
I loved the choreography and flashy action as a kid, and as an adult I still love that and I also adore the political warfare of the prequels. It's one of the better uses of politics in fiction I've seen And I love that the Clone Wars animated series also delved more in galactic and local politics/governments to continue showing just had crazy Palpatine's schemes to secure his Empire had went
7:33 the mega corporations of the star wars setting are actually thousands of years old and many of them own entire worlds as collateral. Czerka being a common example. One guy called Adalar Hyland ran one of these corporations and had so much wealth he could create an interstellar organization dedicated to eradicating the Rak-ghul plague from the Galaxy. Then again that organization still needed constant help from major galactic governments of the era so maybe you have a point.
I loved how the prequels used design, story, and music is GRADUALLY lead us from a peaceful Republic to the dark and gritty and warring Empire. Too much to mention here, but George Lucas is a real master of storytelling. And the design and the music goes right along with the storytelling.
always liked the prequels and never been ashame to admit it. Sure some of the stuff isnt that good but i have always appreciated the worldbuilding and i have always loved the politics in them. thanks for this, good video
The prequel trilogy was a good story badly developed. George Lucas is an uncontested genius. Unfortunately, this genius doesn't extend to his directing skills. Or dialogue, for truth. But his plots and world building are excellent.
Wish Disney saw that before discarding his outlines for the sequels. Honestly, the idea that the bad guys are in the outer rim and are creating crime sindicates sounds like the next logical step instead of "Empire 2.0". And seeing the growing pains a new republic has to face would have been interesting, instead of just getting another rebellion.
@@ThePunisherSpider The sad truth is that the creative team behind the sequels were not good a creating things. Good at developing things, some of them, yes. But creating? No. And they don't realize that. I wonder how good the sequel trilogy would've been if Lucas had overall command of the process, and JJ Abrams ran the day-to-day stuff.
The Prequels era is the era I grew up with. I find the history and the reason behind all that has happened. I never watched the Original Trilogy when I was a kid, heck I never even *heard* of it, but I do know Obi-Wan and Anakin with Anakin’s down spiral to the Darkside was fascinating to me. When I watched the first Clone Wars series, watching them go to several planets or Dooku using his knowledge of his time as Jedi to attack Illum to deal a blow to the Jedi. Or the importance of Anakin and Obi-Wan’s friendship before I even watched the tragedy of Revenge of the Sith years later, it was heartbreaking really. I was attached to these characters and to the history of fall and rise of Empire. The Prequels may be terrible in some aspects, but it brought interesting conflicts and stories to further expand the franchise. This is a great and detailed video.
@@Nerd_Network I felt like it was coming because of his duel on Yavin with Ventress, but part of me knew he was getting better afterwards. Then it gets ruined in Revenge of the Sith. All that development.
The worldbuilding in the prequels is honestly my favorite part of them. As much as I loved Force Awakens, since day 1 - I hated how closed off the universe felt again on terms of scale.
Given how bent out of shape people get over the whole Midichlorian thing, I get the feeling the people who hate the prequels are the same people who just wanted to see cool action scenes between Jedi and Sith, and didn't care for actual story at all. The kinds of people who would wind past half of Jurassic Park just to get to the part where the dinos break out. People literally hate Midichlorians because it "ruins the mysticism" or whatever. Whereas I love the concept because it tells us how the Force runs strong in cerain families and gives us more insight into how the Force works at all.
Thats a really interesting comparison between the CIS and first order. George focused on the world and what made sense in that world, the sequels focused on the world and what random things could be exploited to look the coolest without proper explanation.
I was born in 1978, I seen Star Wars and empire in order and went to the movies in 84, 85 for return of the Jedi. The thing I loved the most about Star Wars was the father son thing with Vader and Luke! And how could a great Jedi (Anakin) could fall so far! So when the prequels came out I was jumping for joy to be able to see how Anakin became Vader! And I loved every minute of the prequels
The Prequels: Show us the events whuch lead to Anakin's betrayal, fall of the Jedi and formation of the Empire Detail on Sith as an antagonistic faction to the Jedi. Darth title and red sabers not being unique to Vader, the Rule of Two, Sith ideas besides being evil tyrants - you name it. Before that, you could easily conclude that Emperor and Darth Vader were no more than a powerful darksider and a renegade Jedi respectively. Actually show the Clone Wars and Obi-Wan's role in it. Have the best fight scenes and scenery in all Star Wars media. The Prequels in eyes of angry fanboys: I hAtE sAnD
I so agree! I’ve always felt that the prequels got a lot of unnecessary hate. I’ve also never had a hard time understanding the plot too, like so many other people did. I’ve always found them to be extremely well thought out tales. Like you said, I’ve never seen another film series invest so much energy into world building.
I agree with basically everything said here. Well except small stuff like the throwaway sand remark. The dialogue actually makes sense if you listen to what Padme says and get the context (their upbringing), even though it's still kinda cheesy.
Nice vid! Im surprised you didn't touch on the world building of Tattooine. It's way more thought out than most think it is. Why are the people poor? It's a desert world with few resources in the Outer Rim, so there's hardly any planetary trade. Why is slavery allowed? Slavery is an enterprise used by business owners and crime bosses to line their pockets since there's no law enforcement. Why is there no law enforcement? Goes back to the lack of commerce meaning no way to fund services like law enforcement. No government, the Hutt Cartel's rules become law. And of course, why pod racing? Why is Jabba officiating the pod race in Episode 1? Simple: when people are miserable, those in charge need to distract the masses from their misery or they would rebel. The oldest case of this was the gladiator games of Rome. Same principle: The Hutts sponsor a bloodsport where people bet what little cash they have in hopes of making more, but 90% of what they give just goes right back into the hutts' pockets. At the same time, they are entertained enough to be distracted from their own misery and stay safely under the hutts' thumbs. Amazing and very under appreciated world building. :)
A good example of what you're talking about at 8:05 - The movie version of Lord of the Rings. When Isildur stands at Mt Doom and refuses to destroy the ring, Elrond is there. Elrond PHYSICALLY can stop him, easily. So why did he not? It would destroy Sauron forever. The simple answer is war. Potentially a generational war, elves vs men for decades, leaving centuries long animosity.
Pretty much the only thing i dont really like about the prequels is the dialogue sometimes other than that i think its good, even the politics was fine
I loved the movies and my step kids loved the movies and still do. Everything in it from foreshadowing the places that were coming up and even the framework for the Death Star all of it. I get so sick of people hating on George Lucas. Yeah he's egotistical and can be a jerk but even in watching in the making of shows for it he hires the best and was able to put together a cohesive film. I still maintain that Revenge of the Sith was and will always be my Gone With the Wind epic story. Watching Anakin going through the falling in to the traps with believing Palpatine and being told if he walks down the path it would always lead to death and no way back. But Luke didn't continue. Luke defeated Vader with the swords using the dark side. But then threw away his sabre. He was proving that he could turn away from the abyss and not allow Palpatines words to distract him.
Doing a bit of soul-searching lately and I think I finally figured out why my initial reaction to the prequels (Ep.I and II in particular) was so negative and why my impression was tainted for the longest time. When TPM came out, I was 15 Years old, which was probably the exact wrong age to like it. I already knew the OT front to back. I was too old to identify with young Anakin, too old to be the target audience for Jar Jar (suffice to say, both Characters were my biggest annoyances) but too young to understand the political aspects and too young to fully apprechiate what George Lucas was doing, that by doing something entirely different, by not trying to replicate the OT, he made the right call. I wanted something that gave me the exact same vibes the Movies I knew all my life give me and when I didnt get that, I was disappointed. Two decades later, I can see what these movies have going for them (visuals and action aside), especially when compared to the Sequels: Size, Scale, fascinating worldbuilding, TONS of ambition and above everything, a fantastic, highly interesting and unique story with a definite beginning, middle and end told over three movies. Could it have been executed better? Of course. I am not saying that this Trilogy is flawless. But it stands on a solid foundation. Its like a house that is plagued by some questionable design choices but is still solidly built and in no danger of falling over. The Sequels, by comparsion, feel like they were built on sand.
I clicked this video because I absolutely LOVE the world-building in prequels! The movies have lot of problems, but the world feels so alive and genuinely diverse with politics, all the races, different technologies... World in sequels feels dead to me, only there because the story needs it
Disney missed speaking about politics in their movies. That was their problem from my point of view. When I was a kid I loved Star Wars because of the tale of the jedi saving the galaxy. As I grew older, I learned about its politics and were fascinated by the intricate and wonderful universe it created. Also George since the beginning was writing the story to give his opinion on world politics, so it is Star Wars's heart.
the world building in the prequel movies are actually what i dislike the most about it, which sucks because the world building during that era in legends and clone wars is great
The only technical problem is a couple shots in Episode II the cgi looks fake because of the rushed production. And also the fact II and III were shot digitally on HDCAM and they really look it. II looks like a digitally shot tv movie. Some segments look like a video game cutscene.
i honestly dont get how/why so many people hated the politics of the prequel trilogy, it was probably the most interesting and compelling part of the movies
I mean I am not a genius (at least to my knowledge LOL) but when I got into Star Wars (2 years ago) I could understand the politics and I am only 15 (wich mean that I was only 13 at the time)
Good points. Just one glaring issue: how did the Republic pay for a clone army that was secretly ordered and made? The explanation is that Dooku paid for it with his vast funds. Which sadly goes into the overused trope you spoke of.
I think the original order was already paid for. Later in the Clone Wars we have times where Senate talks about giving more funds to order more Clones.
i actually don't like the visuals of the ST. Too shiny and bubblegum comic book looking for me. Less fantasy. The worlds felt so small. Rogue One did it much better as does the Mando on a smaller budget no doubt.
uh oh, clone army was funded by Dooku, it's not Republic who funds the ships and clones, in fact the whole Sifo-Dyas plot is not explained and TCW show makes it MORE convoluted, not less
Youve got Problems getting to the point. Lots of repetition. But good video, anyway. Btw, where do the SHIPS and Hardware of the Clone army come from? I mean, the Clones are explained, but not their advanced and superior Equipment. Thats a glaring hole in this story.
I just don‘t understand people that critizise the prequels for their world building. It‘s my personal favorite part about them and they excel at it. The prequels are essentially made to explain the state of the galaxy in the OT.
What year was this video made? you talk about long dead prequel “criticisms” as if they’re a general consensus, who widely panned the politics of the prequels? not Roger Ebert he game all 3 prequels glowing reviews, not most fans, how do crappy Mr. Plinkket criticism which were popular on the Internet for a couple equal actual critical analysis?
I totally hated Clones when it came out and in a lot of ways still do. Not because of the politics. The politics in Phantom Menace were always fine for me, I understood most of it even at the age of 11. Clones otoh is too confusing and…forced, I guess, or lacked vital context to the main conflicts. Like when I was watching it, after the first act which was fine I mp longer had any idea why the conflict was happening, specifically for Obi Wan. Why was he suddenly fighting Jango Fett after talking normally to him for like 5 minutes. Why did Christopher Lee arrest and immediately try to execute Obi Wan? And then he tries to execute a sitting Senator as well, like wtf? Of course in the wider context we can understand why this was going on etc, but the film fails to explain it. Like maybe Dooku needed some dialogue about stopping Obi Wan from making a report, or killing Padme to incite a war (which he gets anyway). And maybe Boba and Jango need some dialogue about how oh shit, Obi Wan is after them for the Assasination, better kill him quickly. Or like, why the fuck was Yoda suddenly in charge of this clone army? Without context as to why the Jedi decided to use the clones (and why it obeyed them?), they feel like a plot device. Also not a fan of the way the romance was executed, but that I can live with. Maybe not so much with the Tusken genocide,
I possibly disagree with you about the Bill Gates analogy... I think if someone was the head of a corporation providing the entire galaxy with something they use every day, you MIGHT get enough money to fund something that massive... maybe not, but possibly.
I figure George Lucas is good at world building Star Wars, but storytelling? He should've hired experienced writers to smooth his work out. No offence, just saying.
@Nerd_Network cadence the rhythm to which one speaks. You have a good cadence, but because you stutter, it breaks up the rhythm of your sentence. Your words should flow together, not harshly stop and start.
The problem with the prequels was not the dialogues or the politics or that fans might not be interested in new world-building. It was that contrarily to the classics, the story was mainly plot-driven. In the classics we learn within minutes who everyone is, how they are and what they want. The prequels leave too much in the dark, or you have to watch them again and again and think about them until you finally get it. Same goes for the sequels. We learn that Rey was abandoned by her family, that Kylo alias Ben wants to keep her safe, that Luke does not want to be a threat to the galaxy again etc., but it is all too vague. The characters often seem confused, not knowing what they actually want, and as a result, so are we.
Prequels expaned the universe, made the political conflict more complex rather just "good guys vs bad guys", put more work into worldbuilding, I don't understand how is that a bad thing?
Palpatine uses Trade Federation to invade Naboo, plays a victum card and burocracy and becomes Chancellor. He through revolutionary Dooku orchestares Separatist movement to create outside enemy (typical dictator move), to get reason to start the war, get emergency powers, make Jedi look like agressive soldiers, conquer all the Galaxy in the "uniting it again" process and then executes all the Jedi, plays the security card and dictates the Empire, also destroying last of Separatists. That's actually brilliant.
Yes, not sure why people think Beurocracy is inherently bad, it's not like proper scrutiny shouldn't be given to things managed by a government given the things a government manages tend to effect the lives of all that it rules which can be literally billions of people.
Same, for me personally, I like the politics and I think it's a very important addition
Can't forget the gigabrain move in endearing himself to the public as a politician that cares for the people and then made everyone turn on the Jedi by weaponizing them figuring out he was a Sith Lord and attacking him as an assassination attempt on the life of the leader of the galaxy and used all of that to bag the formation of the Empire
always loved the prequels as a kid, as an adult i can truly appreciate them
I see this fake as ahit comment like five times a day star wars fans really are the fakest around
same
im right there with you Priximus225. sure they have laughable dialog and questionable execution, but they are good movies with a great story. always loved them as a kid, and now i still love them, but so much more.
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I think the most interesting thing about the prequels, is that the separatists aren't even really the bad guys. Sure they have bad people, like Count Dooku heading it, and the likes of Nute Gunray and General Grevious, but there were still systems who were just genuinely fed up with the republic, and for good reason
You can't really blame the separatist alliance for becoming disillusioned with the republic, when in the end they were correct. Obviously the majority of the separatist senate didn't know that they were being played, just like the Jedi
I'd also imagine the more terrible acts committed by the separatists were done to make them look bad, and give the republic further excuse to support Palpatine and his efforts
Not to mention the immorality committed by the Jedi, like kidnapping kids, ignoring injustice over technicalities, enforcing peace by using force and more.
Grievous was used to terrorize Republic worlds to push militarism in Republic and then he would be killed when he wasn't necessary.
I don't think Dooku was even a bad guy to be honest. He genuinely believed that the Republic was a corrupt lost cause. It was just that Sidious got to him after.
@@cockerpoodles1238 He never really cared for the Sith, more like just using it as a means to an end. But I imagine using the dark side so much did corrupt him, since he still did some awful things
The sequels did one awesome thing: they inspired the rehabilitation of the prequels. I'm really glad that George Lucas got to see people appreciating his hard work during his lifetime.
Well said.
As a kid i ignored the political story waiting for all the cool action, as an adult the debates are so fascinating to me now that i understand what they're saying, maybe they could have added more punch to those scenes, but they are very important to the story.
How could you add “punch” though?
Agree! Something similar happend to me with Jurassic Park as a kid i only wanted to see dinosaurs eating people but as an adult i like those Ian Malcom scenes even more
I love the prequels era ships you can tell they were orginal and had alot of effort put into unlike the sequel era ships.
Yes
Literally the entire sequel is just a straight up rehash of the OT. This makes me appreciate the prequels more, as I started to see the political parts of them once I started to get interested in real-world politics.
I loved the choreography and flashy action as a kid, and as an adult I still love that and I also adore the political warfare of the prequels. It's one of the better uses of politics in fiction I've seen
And I love that the Clone Wars animated series also delved more in galactic and local politics/governments to continue showing just had crazy Palpatine's schemes to secure his Empire had went
7:33 the mega corporations of the star wars setting are actually thousands of years old and many of them own entire worlds as collateral. Czerka being a common example. One guy called Adalar Hyland ran one of these corporations and had so much wealth he could create an interstellar organization dedicated to eradicating the Rak-ghul plague from the Galaxy. Then again that organization still needed constant help from major galactic governments of the era so maybe you have a point.
Careful, Legends
@@elliotkouame3849 are all those interstellar corporations no longer Cannon? Perhaps not I suppose.
@@seekingabsolution1907 The ones in the movies and TCW (Trade Federation, Techno Union, Intergalactic Banking Clan etc.) would still be cannon.
@@elliotkouame3849 Legends - aka the only canon anyone gives a shit about ^^
Fantastic breakdown of the Prequel Trilogy. You deserve more subs.
I loved how the prequels used design, story, and music is GRADUALLY lead us from a peaceful Republic to the dark and gritty and warring Empire. Too much to mention here, but George Lucas is a real master of storytelling. And the design and the music goes right along with the storytelling.
One thing I really dislike about the sequels is the economics of it all. Where did all of the resources for the first order come from?
Secretc only the sith knew...
“Somehow… they got all those resources”
always liked the prequels and never been ashame to admit it. Sure some of the stuff isnt that good but i have always appreciated the worldbuilding and i have always loved the politics in them. thanks for this, good video
The prequel trilogy was a good story badly developed. George Lucas is an uncontested genius. Unfortunately, this genius doesn't extend to his directing skills. Or dialogue, for truth. But his plots and world building are excellent.
Wish Disney saw that before discarding his outlines for the sequels. Honestly, the idea that the bad guys are in the outer rim and are creating crime sindicates sounds like the next logical step instead of "Empire 2.0". And seeing the growing pains a new republic has to face would have been interesting, instead of just getting another rebellion.
@@ThePunisherSpider The sad truth is that the creative team behind the sequels were not good a creating things. Good at developing things, some of them, yes. But creating? No. And they don't realize that.
I wonder how good the sequel trilogy would've been if Lucas had overall command of the process, and JJ Abrams ran the day-to-day stuff.
The more you learn about writing and film-making, the less you will believe that.
George Lucas is on all around fucking genius at all of those things.
The Prequels era is the era I grew up with. I find the history and the reason behind all that has happened. I never watched the Original Trilogy when I was a kid, heck I never even *heard* of it, but I do know Obi-Wan and Anakin with Anakin’s down spiral to the Darkside was fascinating to me. When I watched the first Clone Wars series, watching them go to several planets or Dooku using his knowledge of his time as Jedi to attack Illum to deal a blow to the Jedi. Or the importance of Anakin and Obi-Wan’s friendship before I even watched the tragedy of Revenge of the Sith years later, it was heartbreaking really. I was attached to these characters and to the history of fall and rise of Empire. The Prequels may be terrible in some aspects, but it brought interesting conflicts and stories to further expand the franchise.
This is a great and detailed video.
I agree, the events in Revenge of the Sith are heartbreaking.
@@Nerd_Network I felt like it was coming because of his duel on Yavin with Ventress, but part of me knew he was getting better afterwards. Then it gets ruined in Revenge of the Sith. All that development.
Prequels are unmatched in scope of their world building. You could really feel galactic wide happenings.
The worldbuilding in the prequels is honestly my favorite part of them. As much as I loved Force Awakens, since day 1 - I hated how closed off the universe felt again on terms of scale.
Given how bent out of shape people get over the whole Midichlorian thing, I get the feeling the people who hate the prequels are the same people who just wanted to see cool action scenes between Jedi and Sith, and didn't care for actual story at all. The kinds of people who would wind past half of Jurassic Park just to get to the part where the dinos break out. People literally hate Midichlorians because it "ruins the mysticism" or whatever. Whereas I love the concept because it tells us how the Force runs strong in cerain families and gives us more insight into how the Force works at all.
Thats a really interesting comparison between the CIS and first order. George focused on the world and what made sense in that world, the sequels focused on the world and what random things could be exploited to look the coolest without proper explanation.
I was born in 1978, I seen Star Wars and empire in order and went to the movies in 84, 85 for return of the Jedi. The thing I loved the most about Star Wars was the father son thing with Vader and Luke! And how could a great Jedi (Anakin) could fall so far! So when the prequels came out I was jumping for joy to be able to see how Anakin became Vader! And I loved every minute of the prequels
Even my best friend who despises the prequels has admitted that she loves their world building.
The Prequels:
Show us the events whuch lead to Anakin's betrayal, fall of the Jedi and formation of the Empire
Detail on Sith as an antagonistic faction to the Jedi. Darth title and red sabers not being unique to Vader, the Rule of Two, Sith ideas besides being evil tyrants - you name it. Before that, you could easily conclude that Emperor and Darth Vader were no more than a powerful darksider and a renegade Jedi respectively.
Actually show the Clone Wars and Obi-Wan's role in it.
Have the best fight scenes and scenery in all Star Wars media.
The Prequels in eyes of angry fanboys:
I hAtE sAnD
I'm happy with A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. No additional movies are required. ;)
Boomer lack any intellectual depth
Liking the prequels immediate thumbs up, also the cgi is pretty good for that time
Answer because the prequels isn't as bad as most people said it was btw great vid bud
Palpatine I'm building a army and an empire.... the galaxy is gonna pay for it
In more way then one ;)
The prequels are the best trilogy! Love this explanation!
I so agree! I’ve always felt that the prequels got a lot of unnecessary hate. I’ve also never had a hard time understanding the plot too, like so many other people did. I’ve always found them to be extremely well thought out tales. Like you said, I’ve never seen another film series invest so much energy into world building.
great video and underwatched, prequels are great and the reasons yo gave here are some of the main points of the greatness of it
Star wars fans continuing to be the fakest around
Despite all the critisicm towards the man, worldbuilding part of the story from Lucas was always great. Great analyses and thanks for the video.
Amazing video. You’re channel is underrated!
I agree with basically everything said here.
Well except small stuff like the throwaway sand remark.
The dialogue actually makes sense if you listen to what Padme says and get the context (their upbringing), even though it's still kinda cheesy.
Completely agree. When you get into the prequels the politics are rlly interesting
The prequels has one of my favorite Star war's movie.
6 months ago 16k 136th. You actually care. You have future.
Honestly revenge of the sith is a very good movie and i dont care what anyone says
I feel like now that people see how bad everything that Disney has done is, they’ve come to appreciate the prequels a whole lot more 😂
Nice vid! Im surprised you didn't touch on the world building of Tattooine. It's way more thought out than most think it is.
Why are the people poor? It's a desert world with few resources in the Outer Rim, so there's hardly any planetary trade. Why is slavery allowed? Slavery is an enterprise used by business owners and crime bosses to line their pockets since there's no law enforcement. Why is there no law enforcement? Goes back to the lack of commerce meaning no way to fund services like law enforcement. No government, the Hutt Cartel's rules become law.
And of course, why pod racing? Why is Jabba officiating the pod race in Episode 1? Simple: when people are miserable, those in charge need to distract the masses from their misery or they would rebel. The oldest case of this was the gladiator games of Rome. Same principle: The Hutts sponsor a bloodsport where people bet what little cash they have in hopes of making more, but 90% of what they give just goes right back into the hutts' pockets. At the same time, they are entertained enough to be distracted from their own misery and stay safely under the hutts' thumbs.
Amazing and very under appreciated world building. :)
A good example of what you're talking about at 8:05 - The movie version of Lord of the Rings. When Isildur stands at Mt Doom and refuses to destroy the ring, Elrond is there. Elrond PHYSICALLY can stop him, easily. So why did he not? It would destroy Sauron forever. The simple answer is war. Potentially a generational war, elves vs men for decades, leaving centuries long animosity.
Awesome video!
Pretty much the only thing i dont really like about the prequels is the dialogue sometimes other than that i think its good, even the politics was fine
I loved the movies and my step kids loved the movies and still do. Everything in it from foreshadowing the places that were coming up and even the framework for the Death Star all of it. I get so sick of people hating on George Lucas. Yeah he's egotistical and can be a jerk but even in watching in the making of shows for it he hires the best and was able to put together a cohesive film. I still maintain that Revenge of the Sith was and will always be my Gone With the Wind epic story. Watching Anakin going through the falling in to the traps with believing Palpatine and being told if he walks down the path it would always lead to death and no way back. But Luke didn't continue. Luke defeated Vader with the swords using the dark side. But then threw away his sabre. He was proving that he could turn away from the abyss and not allow Palpatines words to distract him.
Thank fuck SOMEONE OUT THERE UNDERSTANDS.
I understand star wars fans are fake
i got into star wars in 2017, i literally grew up on sequels, nope, i do not think they are good
The FX are great and still look good, there's nothing "bad" about the movies.
they are honestly more ambitious than anything that has come out since, despite their age
good essay man
Doing a bit of soul-searching lately and I think I finally figured out why my initial reaction to the prequels (Ep.I and II in particular) was so negative and why my impression was tainted for the longest time.
When TPM came out, I was 15 Years old, which was probably the exact wrong age to like it. I already knew the OT front to back. I was too old to identify with young Anakin, too old to be the target audience for Jar Jar (suffice to say, both Characters were my biggest annoyances) but too young to understand the political aspects and too young to fully apprechiate what George Lucas was doing, that by doing something entirely different, by not trying to replicate the OT, he made the right call. I wanted something that gave me the exact same vibes the Movies I knew all my life give me and when I didnt get that, I was disappointed.
Two decades later, I can see what these movies have going for them (visuals and action aside), especially when compared to the Sequels: Size, Scale, fascinating worldbuilding, TONS of ambition and above everything, a fantastic, highly interesting and unique story with a definite beginning, middle and end told over three movies. Could it have been executed better? Of course. I am not saying that this Trilogy is flawless. But it stands on a solid foundation. Its like a house that is plagued by some questionable design choices but is still solidly built and in no danger of falling over. The Sequels, by comparsion, feel like they were built on sand.
Damn what a great video!
Star wars prequels are underrated
I clicked this video because I absolutely LOVE the world-building in prequels! The movies have lot of problems, but the world feels so alive and genuinely diverse with politics, all the races, different technologies... World in sequels feels dead to me, only there because the story needs it
I love the politics.
The prequels deserve none of the hate people took their hate to far
@@Funnypenguin18 still stand by what I said
Disney missed speaking about politics in their movies. That was their problem from my point of view. When I was a kid I loved Star Wars because of the tale of the jedi saving the galaxy. As I grew older, I learned about its politics and were fascinated by the intricate and wonderful universe it created. Also George since the beginning was writing the story to give his opinion on world politics, so it is Star Wars's heart.
the world building in the prequel movies are actually what i dislike the most about it, which sucks because the world building during that era in legends and clone wars is great
Great video!
I'll watch any of the prequels, while genuinely enjoying them, over the sequel trilogy anytime.
It's the best world building if the series
I mean, c'mon George! WHEN has a "trade dispute" ended up starting a war? !?
(*checks notes) er, umm... Nevermind.
3:41 its not super important but he also discovers the archives have been wiped so someone might be a mole
The only technical problem is a couple shots in Episode II the cgi looks fake because of the rushed production. And also the fact II and III were shot digitally on HDCAM and they really look it. II looks like a digitally shot tv movie. Some segments look like a video game cutscene.
It's 2021. Do Prequel videos still need to open with caveats like this?
What can I say, there still are people who haven't seen these movies. I also wanted to include that joke in there.
i honestly dont get how/why so many people hated the politics of the prequel trilogy, it was probably the most interesting and compelling part of the movies
I mean I am not a genius (at least to my knowledge LOL) but when I got into Star Wars (2 years ago) I could understand the politics and I am only 15 (wich mean that I was only 13 at the time)
You are smarter than I was. It took me forever to figure out what was going on.
Good points.
Just one glaring issue: how did the Republic pay for a clone army that was secretly ordered and made? The explanation is that Dooku paid for it with his vast funds. Which sadly goes into the overused trope you spoke of.
I think the original order was already paid for. Later in the Clone Wars we have times where Senate talks about giving more funds to order more Clones.
Dooku himself is a very rich man and Noble from his planet. Meaning he had just enough to secretly fund some of the close army.
honestly most this worldbuilding come from the other media from this era
as someone who hates politics as a whole in real life, I can't get enough of it in Star Wars. that's how interesting and great it is.
I've been telling people all this for years.
Prequels made star wars STAR wars
I actually liked the politics
They are boring but I still like it
It’s a part of the universe that you can’t just leave out
I guess Denis Villeneuve didn't get the memo...
Is it a monarchy, a democracy... Or a civilized nation?
But Palpatine’s master owned the banks so your point at 7:15 is mute
In short, OT: Story - amazing.
Acting - good.
World-building - good.
Characters - great.
Fights - ok.
Music - great.
Dialogue - good.
Visuals - ok.
PT: Story - amazing.
Acting - ok.
World-building - great.
Characters - good.
Fights - great.
Music - great.
Dialogue - meh.
Visuals - good.
ST: Story - bad.
Acting - ok.
World-building - terrible.
Characters - bad.
Fights - bad.
Music - good.
Dialogue - ok.
Visuals - great.
i actually don't like the visuals of the ST. Too shiny and bubblegum comic book looking for me. Less fantasy. The worlds felt so small. Rogue One did it much better as does the Mando on a smaller budget no doubt.
Star wars fans continuing to be the fakest around
uh oh, clone army was funded by Dooku, it's not Republic who funds the ships and clones, in fact the whole Sifo-Dyas plot is not explained and TCW show makes it MORE convoluted, not less
Its all explained in the movie lol
Its because they just threw exposition in every fucking scene
it's okay to do a second take homie
Agreed. I'll do better next time.
i like the way dune does politics better
People hated the prequels only because their little brains could only understand "pew pew, woosh woosh, I am your father" language. So called fans...
Youve got Problems getting to the point. Lots of repetition. But good video, anyway. Btw, where do the SHIPS and Hardware of the Clone army come from? I mean, the Clones are explained, but not their advanced and superior Equipment. Thats a glaring hole in this story.
but i do think the worldbuilding in the old comics/novels are much better than how the movies do it
rots novelization fer life
I just don‘t understand people that critizise the prequels for their world building. It‘s my personal favorite part about them and they excel at it.
The prequels are essentially made to explain the state of the galaxy in the OT.
What year was this video made? you talk about long dead prequel “criticisms” as if they’re a general consensus, who widely panned the politics of the prequels? not Roger Ebert he game all 3 prequels glowing reviews, not most fans, how do crappy Mr. Plinkket criticism which were popular on the Internet for a couple equal actual critical analysis?
How can you have star WARS without politics?
Andor vindicated this video.
I totally hated Clones when it came out and in a lot of ways still do.
Not because of the politics. The politics in Phantom Menace were always fine for me, I understood most of it even at the age of 11.
Clones otoh is too confusing and…forced, I guess, or lacked vital context to the main conflicts. Like when I was watching it, after the first act which was fine I mp longer had any idea why the conflict was happening, specifically for Obi Wan.
Why was he suddenly fighting Jango Fett after talking normally to him for like 5 minutes. Why did Christopher Lee arrest and immediately try to execute Obi Wan? And then he tries to execute a sitting Senator as well, like wtf? Of course in the wider context we can understand why this was going on etc, but the film fails to explain it.
Like maybe Dooku needed some dialogue about stopping Obi Wan from making a report, or killing Padme to incite a war (which he gets anyway). And maybe Boba and Jango need some dialogue about how oh shit, Obi Wan is after them for the Assasination, better kill him quickly.
Or like, why the fuck was Yoda suddenly in charge of this clone army? Without context as to why the Jedi decided to use the clones (and why it obeyed them?), they feel like a plot device.
Also not a fan of the way the romance was executed, but that I can live with. Maybe not so much with the Tusken genocide,
I possibly disagree with you about the Bill Gates analogy... I think if someone was the head of a corporation providing the entire galaxy with something they use every day, you MIGHT get enough money to fund something that massive... maybe not, but possibly.
oh im not brave enough for politics
I figure George Lucas is good at world building Star Wars, but storytelling? He should've hired experienced writers to smooth his work out.
No offence, just saying.
The Prequel Trilogy is better than the Sequel Trilogy.
Sand
I don't like sand.
My god edit your work and do second takes your stuttering is running your cadence.
Thanks for the advice, although I don't really understand what you mean by cadence. Can you explain it a bit more to me?
@Nerd_Network cadence the rhythm to which one speaks. You have a good cadence, but because you stutter, it breaks up the rhythm of your sentence. Your words should flow together, not harshly stop and start.
@@saintlugia Thanks for the explanation! I'll have to keep that in mind the next time I make a video!
I know, right? Too bad about the movies
yeah no
No
The problem with the prequels was not the dialogues or the politics or that fans might not be interested in new world-building. It was that contrarily to the classics, the story was mainly plot-driven. In the classics we learn within minutes who everyone is, how they are and what they want. The prequels leave too much in the dark, or you have to watch them again and again and think about them until you finally get it.
Same goes for the sequels. We learn that Rey was abandoned by her family, that Kylo alias Ben wants to keep her safe, that Luke does not want to be a threat to the galaxy again etc., but it is all too vague. The characters often seem confused, not knowing what they actually want, and as a result, so are we.
The politics are also very important for establishing Palpatines manipulative rise to power.