Black Panther: Wakanda Forever SPOILER Review | The GOOD & AWFUL

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @colindavis7197
    @colindavis7197 2 года назад +26

    THANK YOU!!! How they handled his death was in extremely poor taste. Them making him basically be too proud to tell anyone in the most technologically advanced nation about his sickness seems like a lowkey tongue in cheek dig at Chadwick to me🤷‍♂️

    • @TheKoolSection
      @TheKoolSection  2 года назад +4

      I hated it. I started to feel anger at how it felt like Boseman's death was being exploited to make me feel something for the demise of T'Challa.

    • @colindavis7197
      @colindavis7197 2 года назад +3

      @@TheKoolSection yep after watching the movie I could not stand that Disney and Marvel were parading themselves like they were "honoring Chadwick"🤦‍♂️

    • @w3st335
      @w3st335 2 года назад +2

      That's not true he told nakia and his mom and they even said he prepared for his death and i doubt he ould have done that if he wasn't certain he was going to die

    • @w3st335
      @w3st335 2 года назад +2

      @@TheKoolSection its because they are blurring the line between the two. Died from an illness that's incurable to this day , pretty sure that's supposed to be cancer.

    • @colindavis7197
      @colindavis7197 2 года назад

      @@w3st335 crazy how in the comics Wakanda literally withholds the cure to cancer from the rest of the world😑🤨

  • @Profess84
    @Profess84 2 года назад +22

    In my opinion if they went with a the coma storyline, with Shuri healing T'Challa, but there was a cosmic side effect that changed his appearance. I think if audience would've accepted a new actor if the family came out more and the cast went with what Chadwick said in his interviews, because banking on what they did, it shows how important the T'Challa character is, to the point that people who were against #recasttchalla are now saying they should've recast.

    • @Profess84
      @Profess84 2 года назад +2

      @ThatYellowSpiderGuy That explaination was more for the people who are going question the examples you brought up.

    • @TheKoolSection
      @TheKoolSection  2 года назад +7

      I mean, I would've taken that over what they did. Unfortunately they did the worst thing possible imo.

    • @Haramu-Fal0
      @Haramu-Fal0 2 года назад +1

      @@Profess84 I hear you, but you gotta be an inflexible and unimaginative person not be able to suspend your disbalief, and separate the character from the actor.

    • @pookiewood
      @pookiewood 2 года назад +3

      @@Haramu-Fal0 sadly we live in a world we're Chadwick was T'Challa only and not Jackie Robinson or James Brown or any other role. This is the only character where we have seen where people are not be able to separate the character from the person. It's the weirdest form of idolization I've seen in awhile.

    • @Haramu-Fal0
      @Haramu-Fal0 2 года назад +1

      @@pookiewood OMG. Is it not? It's almost as if people have no concept of spiritual, family, or core values? Apathy, lethargy, and catharsis is all that's left of this empty-minded generation.

  • @AsarFilms
    @AsarFilms 2 года назад +24

    If the black panther dies why not stick to wakandan tradition and find men who can engage in hand to hand combat from the other tribes to become the new panther?

    • @Cook-by-the-book
      @Cook-by-the-book 2 года назад +11

      Argh! That’s what I was thinking, even if the plants where destroyed, wouldn’t there be another tribe leader challenging the current leader for the throne?
      Specially since the duel requires they fight with pure physical strength, stripped of any powers?
      They just let the queen rule unchallenged for a whole year? That’s BS.

    • @mafuie6040
      @mafuie6040 2 года назад

      Mbaku should have been the next panther in his case the silver ape.

    • @TheKoolSection
      @TheKoolSection  2 года назад +3

      Good point 🤔

    • @w3st335
      @w3st335 2 года назад

      @@Cook-by-the-book In the first movie mbaku was the only one to challenge for the throne and all the other tribes restrained. Its shown that they have a good relationship with the royal family and mbaku later became friends with t'challa so i don't find it logical for anyone to challenge for the throne

    • @w3st335
      @w3st335 2 года назад

      I don't think it was wver said its only supposed to be men t'challa said warrior to warrior and we can see the royal family's warriors are all woman soooo🤷‍♂️

  • @ThaFriskyOne
    @ThaFriskyOne 2 года назад +4

    Man you are the first person I've seen in a review mention that Shuri had no previous hand to hand combat experience, thank you! There's no explanation how she can just go toe to toe with Namor all of a sudden and I have no clue why she wouldn't consider to give Okoye the flower instead, it's so weird. The rest of your review is spot on, you make a lot of good points especially with how they treated T'challa. Now he'll never be on the level of Spiderman and Iron man like he should be.

  • @mikenayers5981
    @mikenayers5981 2 года назад +6

    Shuri shouldn’t become Black Panther, just because it happened in the comics, since she was a completely different character in the books.
    She was just retconned into existence in 2005 like she was always there, and she was just lazily written as female T’Challa. So THAT Shuri could easily fill his shoes.
    So it happening in the comics provides no precedence for this Shuri.

    • @colindavis7197
      @colindavis7197 2 года назад +5

      "It happened in the comics" yeah, and there it was set up a lot more. I swear anyone saying that just skimmed a wiki page and accepted it as gospel. Bc when it happened in the comics, it was temporary while Tchalla was recovering, not permanent and bc Tchalla is dead🤦‍♂️

    • @mikenayers5981
      @mikenayers5981 2 года назад +1

      @@colindavis7197 That too.

  • @MichaelCravatt
    @MichaelCravatt 2 года назад +9

    I had never seen your channel before your Wakanda video showed up in my feed today. I'm really glad I watched it because it was well produced and you have a great take on the movie.
    That encouraged me to watch more of your videos and ultimately to subscribe.
    Keep up the great work and glad I stumbled upon your channel!! 👊😎

  • @NMbones98
    @NMbones98 2 года назад +8

    How did panther die from sickness isn't one of his abilities being immune to disease from the damn herb?

    • @frankiew1309
      @frankiew1309 2 года назад +2

      (Spoiler in this answer)Well it certainly kept Shuri from succumbing to that impaling from Namor.

    • @Cook-by-the-book
      @Cook-by-the-book 2 года назад +2

      Argh! I’m sure it was cancer or something like that, since even Jane foster with the power of Thor was still slowly dying from it.
      It still dumb that the LEADER of wakanda kept it a secret because of his “pride”, sounds insulting to the actor and the character we saw pre-endgame.

    • @jayb2379
      @jayb2379 2 года назад +2

      @@Cook-by-the-book Jane’s situation was different tho. Every time she used the hammer it was killing her cause it took the Chemo (that was fighting the cancer) out of her body. So it sped up the process. Since it was already there.
      Now T’Challa dying from cancer (or illness) makes no damn sense and I spit on it …. Bleh lol

  • @sosurreptitious
    @sosurreptitious 2 года назад +2

    3 mins in and i'm so interested to hear your perspective on this! subscribed

  • @JodysCorner
    @JodysCorner 2 года назад +1

    Great review. I agree with everything said here except M'baku. He was only in the movie a little because he was used for pure comedy. He was a clown in this film who fell into the throne.
    Being black doesn't mean we have to like this is something I agree with HEAVILY

    • @TheKoolSection
      @TheKoolSection  2 года назад

      What up bro! I appreciate you coming through. I feel like M'Baku probably could've been the primarily villain for this movie to be honest. With T'Challa unfortunately gone, they could've had M'Baku and the J'Bari attempt to do an aggressive takeover for the throne. It is what it is though.

  • @eon001
    @eon001 2 года назад +7

    They could have at least skipped that weepy Shuri stuff and go straight to the funeral. They were really milking it. They could have set it during the blip and still got the emotional release of mourning, but instead of death it's the dusting.

  • @lifepodscast
    @lifepodscast 2 года назад +3

    As advanced as the Wakandans post to be it somehow bothered me the whole time how they don’t have a better way to travel like a teleportation device lmaoo

  • @Wyatt6661
    @Wyatt6661 2 года назад +1

    I can just get over how the heart shaped herb supposed to stop any illness

  • @abbynormal8702
    @abbynormal8702 2 года назад +1

    Kevin Feige went all in on the M She U. He saw an opportunity to replace another hero with a woman so he jumped on it.

  • @mikeshadez
    @mikeshadez 2 года назад +6

    They should of recast T'challa I feel this movie didn't work.

  • @pookiewood
    @pookiewood 2 года назад

    You nailed it brotha. Great review and your voice and the way you speak makes me want to march to Marvel HQ and demand T'Challa. 😂👍🏾👍🏾✊🏾

  • @edwardjones282
    @edwardjones282 2 года назад +1

    Good points about T'Challa's character.

  • @JodysCorner
    @JodysCorner 2 года назад

    Shuri couldn't heal that water girl because Nakia told her that was a sonic blast weapon and she can't be saved. She was going to die no matter what she did.
    Still watching review....

  • @dannyknightblade4592
    @dannyknightblade4592 2 года назад +2

    Instead of building upon the first movie's success, I think that Black Panther: Wakanda Forever will ruin the Black Panther franchise. I don't wanna see that little string bean Shuri as Black Panther. I wanna see King T'Challa as Black Panther. They really should have recast the role of King T'Challa.

  • @Wyatt6661
    @Wyatt6661 2 года назад +1

    Where did all the strong black man go

  • @DosesOfZia
    @DosesOfZia 2 года назад +1

    I couldn’t always separate Chadwick from Tchalla and that was one of my biggest gripes.

  • @chadkinsler9865
    @chadkinsler9865 2 года назад +1

    I was so upset the way they killed off Ramonda 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @Wyatt6661
    @Wyatt6661 2 года назад +1

    In the comic books Wakanda actually had a cure for cancer what is funny about this

  • @greenweather8949
    @greenweather8949 2 года назад +1

    I salute and respect you wholeheartedly, KC. *bow*

  • @intuativefiha5771
    @intuativefiha5771 2 года назад

    Keep going o brother. I hope you get more hears for your opinion.

  • @henkhenkste6076
    @henkhenkste6076 2 года назад

    Since when is overacting consider good acting?

  • @samaki37
    @samaki37 Год назад

    I think we can all agree why they didn't recast T’Challa: money, popularity and jealousy.
    I've always stated that when they first announced that they would have brought into a liv-action the first Black Superhero, they couldn't imagine the biggest impact on Civil War made by the Russos.
    They were the best directors for the first movie. As I said Ryan Coogler was lucky enough because I think they wanted a Black director and I'm sure he was the only first name brought up once they could have chosen any other Black director and the movie would have much T’Challa -centric and would make anyway the same billion dollars or even more. The Russos brought up the character alive with his skills, agility, and fearless. He was the best T’Challa ever! While in his own movie we couldn't see any intellectual characteristics or fighting skills comparing on Civil war, with that horrible CGI in the cave. Why spending so much money on a horrible computer fight cat scene, when they should have gone with a classic hand to hand fight combat like Winter Soldier and maybe fighting in the river for a round two with suits.
    The cooler is a disgrace, ruined the only Black male scientist, martial artist, politician and richest character in the Superhero comics.
    I think Marvel wasn't aspected all this enormous popularity Black Panther overshadowed all the other heroes, in fact beside the Avengers that are an assemble team up, BP is the most successful, if T’Challa was in the sequel would have done at least 1 billion and half for sure.
    Only the last Spiderman has earned nearly 2 billions but they used 3 Parkers.
    I think Sony was even jealous of the first introduction of T’Challa that’s why they push a Spiderman movie every 2 years.
    If we didn't wait so long, BP2 would have been in 2020 not every 4 years.
    That's why I like Sony, but I think even to push the popularity of the characters in people’s day life.
    Black Panther was a huge Cultural phenomenon that Disney scared of, because they would have paid a big cash of money to Boseman and they didn't want to have another Robert Downey Jr, that's why they give us that shitty story of the mantle to delegitimize any Black Male interested on the role,while Black Panther was always about T’Challa.
    Chadwick Boseman was upset at the time were considering to replace him already because of his contract and also because they wanted to push Shuri in the second movie, while he was stated that he could not have a trilogy because he signed for 5 movies. So they re-negotiated for a third movie.
    From this point of view Boseman’s death was a fortunate event for Disney.
    Using the Wakanda hype and pay less actors.
    They are trying to rebrand the Black Panther brand into the Wakanda Universe, instead of the man T’Challa, so they could pay less the actor and keep switch the Panther mantle with no respect.
    Another point is theydon't push the recast because T’Challa is the best representation of Black excellence and masculinity.
    The white- fragility complex is there: why give spotlight for a Black character that is one of the richest, among of ten smartest person in the world, best martial artist and the only Black Character that could seat at the same table as Tony Stark, Reed Richards, Hank Pyam, Dr Strange, Xavier.
    He would've naturally been one of the new faces of the MCU against Kang, he would give a strategic war plans and financial and technical support.
    However he would have taken all the spotlight from Spiderman and other characters, the Black male heroes have to be weak.
    That's why they push Shuri because she's a woman and she's not a threat for a white male protagonist.
    She will be a sidekick anyway the nerdy one, so it's ok for Disney.
    T’Challa was becoming very popular and this was not good at all.

  • @Wyatt6661
    @Wyatt6661 2 года назад +1

    So he know he had a son but chose too die then to be a dad and what best way to raise a kid if not Wakanda . It what made him the man he is so why wouldn’t he want his son to be raised like that

  • @jereladjohnson
    @jereladjohnson 2 года назад

    Good review, I had my own questions about this movie. I may check it out when it comes to streaming.

  • @TheGundamsword
    @TheGundamsword 2 года назад +1

    This movie was about marketing off of Chadwick's death, not honoring it. And honestly of you take away his "tribute", would the movie be getting the hype and praise it is getting?

  • @blakekwamin7400
    @blakekwamin7400 2 года назад +2

    For every reason you criticize the movie are the very reason why the movie is great. 1.) feeling of loss 2.) shuri doing a 180 when her whole family died 3.)thoughts of shuri is unworthy
    Yeah… all of that is by design. Remember, in the comic, Bast ALSO rejected shuri when she took the herb when she became black Panther
    Pretty much most of how you felt is by design, some just don’t get it. But this was all on purpose.

    • @blakekwamin7400
      @blakekwamin7400 2 года назад

      @ThatYellowSpiderGuy. In comics, EVERYONE DIES. Come on bro. Don’t be silly. Also REMEMBER, namor flooded Wakanda, the nation had to seek refuge in the comics. Wakanda has been getting attacked every other event lately in the comics, you remember that too don’t you.
      The point is, all the fanboys need to relax. Nothing is happening in these movies that ain’t been done in the comics. Just shut up and enjoy the ride already. Shuri is the new black Panther, deal with it
      (I laugh because most black Panther fans didn’t even know Wakanda existed until MCU told them. Which is why they can’t see past Chadwick)

    • @blakekwamin7400
      @blakekwamin7400 2 года назад

      @ThatYellowSpiderGuy you missed my last comment

    • @MrLatrunks14
      @MrLatrunks14 2 года назад +2

      @@blakekwamin7400 Just because it happened in the comics doesn't mean it was a good idea.
      Peter Parker was a Clone (The Clone Saga) and Ben Riley was the Real Spider-Man. Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson sold their marriage to the devil (Mephisto) just so they could "Save Aunt May" and reset the entire Marvel universe to that nobody knows Spider-Man's identity and that Peter was back being a single dude because they felt that Peter being married wasn't relatable? Lmao 🤣
      DC comics has killed Superman (The death of Superman) then had to resurrect him (The Return of Superman) due to low comic sales of the Supermen. Wakanda Forever deserves as much criticism as the other mediocre MCU films. Using the bad comic stories as an excuse is not acceptable anymore

    • @blakekwamin7400
      @blakekwamin7400 2 года назад

      @@MrLatrunks14 …… it was ALSO a good idea. Shuri was always destined to wear the black Panther suit. Boseman’s untimely death just sped up that time table. Not to mention it played a perfect vehicle for the theme of grief and loss that all of Wakanda had to endure.
      People that have issues with the movie just don’t get it. They wanted more of black Panther 1, the sequel transcend beyond those expectations.

    • @MrLatrunks14
      @MrLatrunks14 2 года назад +1

      @@blakekwamin7400 It wasn't a good idea and fans stopped buying the comics. Which was why T'Challa came back. Low comic sales

  • @sweetyeetus
    @sweetyeetus 2 года назад +1

    "I keep it real".
    You're goddamn right, you do.

  • @onevoice4894
    @onevoice4894 2 года назад +1

    The success of BP:WF is tantamount to the BLM movement. Both gained momentum and made millions off of the death of black men, whilst at the same time attempting to remove them from the equation all together.
    Do you honestly think BP:WF would have had the same opening weekend numbers if Shurri would have been BP from the very beginning with no T’Challa at all? I think not!!
    Ryan Coogler and Marvel did the impossible, which was make me have zero interest in watching a “BP” themed movie
    #recasttchalla

  • @g.williamwoodward6676
    @g.williamwoodward6676 2 года назад +2

    M’Baku should have been King/Black Panther. Took advantage of the blip. Worked for Wong

    • @abbynormal8702
      @abbynormal8702 2 года назад

      I still think it's a dick move for Wong not to give the position back. It's stated unequivocally that Strange is the greatest sorcerer among them all. Bar none.

  • @shimshonisrael7851
    @shimshonisrael7851 2 года назад

    He pulled the hat up and AND SAID CAP 🧢 ……LEGENDARY

  • @JoeAhmadGuitar
    @JoeAhmadGuitar 2 года назад +1

    I could have bought Shuris transformation into Black Panther if there was an actual transformation, or at least a training montage. Would have been nice .

    • @jayb2379
      @jayb2379 2 года назад

      Could always use a good montage

  • @Wyatt6661
    @Wyatt6661 2 года назад +1

    So Dick Grayson took over Batman from Bruce Wayne because he was hurt suri did the same in the comics because T’CHALLA he was dealing with some type of illness or injury I remember I said that because just because he was Batman in the comics for a bit doesn’t mean I want to see him as Batman in the movies same as black panther

    • @TheKoolSection
      @TheKoolSection  2 года назад

      For Grayson in particular I'd rather see him as Nightwing because it's an identity directly associated with him instead of him sharing the same name as another prominent character.

  • @omnipotentshorts
    @omnipotentshorts 2 года назад

    Lol I thought she killed those cops too! I didn’t mind Riri Williams because she built a machine that two nations took issue with and Wakanda needed to nab her before Namor could. Like you said, everyone will have an issue with the film so it is what it is

  • @lilfoot8348
    @lilfoot8348 2 года назад +1

    He gives a good ass review. I dig it

  • @waynethompson1115
    @waynethompson1115 2 года назад

    Just wasn't interested in a movie without the title character. Not interested in watching a 2hr funeral.

  • @michellejones8508
    @michellejones8508 2 года назад

    I believe the writers themselves weren't comfortable with Shuri becoming the "new Black Panther " that's probably the reason why she was only in the Black Panther suit for a short period of time (thank God). I also agree with you about Riri I found her big face azz very irritating smh...and then to further disgust me she being the reason the great and beautiful Angela Bassett dying. That whole storyline was just sad 😔. I have a lot more to say but I'll end it here 😆

  • @Cook-by-the-book
    @Cook-by-the-book 2 года назад +5

    Argh! In the ending where they reveled tchalla had a son, I was just thinking why was this kept a secret for so long? Shuri only finds out in that moment, makes you wonder what else did tchalla keep a secret from his family or his entire nation?
    I’m still convinced that tchalla would have been sidelined in this movie to make shuri the new black panther even if Chadwick was still alive.

    • @abbynormal8702
      @abbynormal8702 2 года назад +1

      Hopefully Disney realizes the screwed up and bring Tchalla back in part 3. Maybe say he needed to go to the afterlife to learn some secret wisdom to save Wakanda.

    • @jayb2379
      @jayb2379 2 года назад

      Agreed!!! Like why did. T’Challa just not trust anyone all of sudden. Tells no one he’s sick when he has a nation to protect…. Hey let me keep this kid in a bother country cause no one can know about him either… huh?

  • @kevingalvan2860
    @kevingalvan2860 2 года назад

    In the comics the sister becomes the black panther so idk why your mad🤷‍♂️

    • @chadkinsler9865
      @chadkinsler9865 2 года назад +3

      She became the Black Panther to fill in because T'Challa was injured not dead . And they co existed together

  • @ToureP
    @ToureP 2 года назад +1

    Put this on Tik TOK

  • @Arishem34
    @Arishem34 2 года назад

    Man, I'm glad I don't have the view of the world you do.
    Marvel Studios/Coogler gave us the closure we needed to move forward after the passing of Chadwick.
    Wakanda Forever was cathartic.
    Your whole criticism of Namor is ridiculous.
    Namor takes an "L" to T'Challa all the time. Sheesh, man. You militant.
    I hear ya.