These Jigs Never Fail In Cold Water (Tidal Creek Fishing New Old Town ePDL Kayak)
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As soon as I get hit by a city vehicle and can get a settlement, I'm buying one of these.
😂
And I thought I was the only person willing to go to those extremes for fishing gear lol
or win the lotto, 6K will buy a nice skiff also
😂🤣
Watch out for the garbage truck!
NICE JOB ON CATCHING ALL THE DIFFERENT SPECIES! VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING MORE ABOUT YOUR NEW OLD TOWN. IF WONDERING IF IT MY HELP ME WITH MY BAD BACK. POWER ASSIST WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ME PLUS FULL MOTOR AND MANUAL WOULD BE NICE FEATURES ALSO. LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE OF YOUR ASSESSMENT!
I grew up fishing in Back Bay Virginia in the late 70s and early 80s. It was a world-class Bass fishery then before they started pumping salt water into it. I was back there a couple years ago and they had stopped the saltwater pumping and reintroduced Florida strain bass and the fishery is coming back. Those creeks you are fishing bring back really good memories of casting baits up close to those grassy banks and Cyprus snags and having a big bass explode on them or retrieving Johnson's minnows over the milfoil beds.
Love fishing this stuff it's really beautiful.
@@EliasVFishing Just curious. Why can't you eat the fish from that creek?
Does the ePDL need to be registered as a power boat?
Yes I believe so.
So , I do not own one but based off your review and what I can see. Coming from me using an Autopilot 136. The autopilot 136 is what 4900? 4500 when I bought it. It does not come with a battery , which my Dakota Lithium battery at the time was 1200. 100 AH battery. That same battery is 699 now and prices of lithium are getting even cheaper. So today you would pay 5600 to have a Autopilot 136 with a 100 AH battery from Dakota Lithium with an 11 year warranty. That being said , I highly doubt the amperage usage of this PDL is as efficient as the Minn Kota , and its definitely not as versatile. So , I know you said its not a good comparison but if I'm buying a kayak from Old Town. I expect the higher priced kayak to be better in every way than the cheaper one. To me , this is a major fail for Old Town. No one that buys these kayaks should look at this kayak and say its an upgrade over the autopilot.
The EPDL comes with a battery but the whole thing is only a 1 year warranty , which includes the battery. With the Old Town Autopilot , its a 1 year warranty on the hull , and Dakota Lithium gives you an 11 year warranty on the battery. They are an American company and a very good to work with. Now , the Autopilot is a minn kota trolling motor , which means in the future , you may see upgrades to increase thrust , like a head replacement , or a lower unit replacement to go from 46 lbs thrust to say 50 or 55 , maybe even 60. Maybe a 24 volt system , two smaller form factor batteries in a single case with a 24 volt head for even more efficiency. The only thing the autopilot lacks is speed , over this model.
Looking at the EPDL , the most important factor for any fishing kayak , is the size of the usable space. Space you would use constantly. Almost any peddle system has one flaw , the drive is close to you and it takes up a large portion of the usable space. Wilderness Systems radar kayak is the least intrusive of this aspect , that is a peddle drive system where the drive slides straight up and pivots forward to lay down out of the usable space . Most peddle drive systems though are between 2000 to 3500 and some at 4000 if you are looking at Hobie. However , at 6 grand , peddle drive should not even be a thought. They should have never introduced a 6 grand peddle drive kayak , even a power assisted one. 4000 with a battery? more reasonable.
I'm sure the chair is comparable to the autopilot , if not the same one , the pockets on the sides , inside should not have that black plastic overtop the netting/pocket, you can not stick tall things in it , like fish grips , etc.
The Drive and how it clamps down to the kayak , if you get grass on the prop and have to clear it , anything you got beside that big hole is subject to be lost , forever , it should have a raised up lip around it to decrease the risk of losing baits or other expensive items. It should not be flush with the inside/bottom of the kayak. If that break away shatters , is that something that can be locked down again? or do you have to use a replacement? What is up with that?
The battery they give you , is a deep cycle , not 100 AH battery , more like 40 something. maybe 60.
My final thought is this. This kayak in Ok for 4 grand , but not for 6k. I compare it to Old Towns, used to be top model. Its about the same weight , only a little less. Smaller battery. Less usable space . Poorly managed compartments. Battery not as secure as a Old Town. Drive takes up much more space and heavier and less features but faster in use. Breakaway not reusable? ( not sure on this ). Go back to your statement , passing over fish to get to fish. The faster you are moving , the more likely you are to bypass fish. I see speed as more of a hinderance than a help. I go as fast as 3.6 mph in Oregon inlet which is some pretty damn crazy tides , and as slow as 2.4. I have no reason to go faster , I catch just as much fish if not more within 2 miles of the dock as the guys traveling for hours in the sound looking for fish. Spot lock keeps me still on everything 15 mph winds and tides in same direction , I barely ever get pushed off the spot.
Old Town wants to charge 6 k for a kayak? Ok fine , do another better version of the Autopilot. What does that mean? It does not mean much change but. Larger head and lower unit for thrust increase , maybe 24 volt options? Multiple engine sizes? Rear hatch access? Maybe slightly longer 14.6 version? Make the cabin space in front of the seated position a foot longer? Better hull design to have less resistance? Narrow the hull an inch or two? It could be a tad bit skinnier. That you could charge 6 grand for. Not this EPDL. Its not anywhere near 6 , not even close to doing what a Autopilot can for less with a 11 year battery warranty and larger battery.
Nice video, however bowfin (mudfish) has to be cleaned the right way to taste good. I like it better than bass.
I can get a used skiff in LA for that price. That’s a hard sell.
‘Bowfin’ for the folks who like catching mudfish;
‘Mudfish’ for the folks who hate catching bowfin.
Careful in the no wake zones! I have to stick with ole skiff for any trip longer than an hour with this sad excuse for a back. Some fun fishing. Take care
I tested the epdl at the ICAST show and I own a PDL 106 and Autopilot 120. Nothing beats the autopilot 120 in my opinion. Spot lock alone is a game changer if you are a serious kayak fisherman plus all the other Minn Kota motor features like North lock.. I like the epdl top speed at 6mph though for sure 😁 I wish AP 120 would go little faster..
I feel like the whole point of a Kayak is so you can pick it up and walk to the water by yourself. Once you get into peddles and battery powered Kayaks it defeats the purpose IMO. Might as well just have a small boat and a trailer at that point and be more comfortable.
Agree totally. It's all about portability when you say 'kayak'. These more elaborate rigs are 1-man bass boats, in my vernacular.
I agree. I like to toss my kayak in the back of my truck and go to some lake to fish. I don’t need a pedal or motorized kayak. I like to paddle.
To each their own. I love being able to throw my yak in the back of my truck and go anywhere. Once I get there, I add all the batteries and accessories to it and have a blast. I like my yak setup far more than the bass boat my wife talked me into selling to get a family boat.
I try to buy cheap rigs for the river in the winter.. it loves to take all it can get
I love catching bowfin there are tons of big ones in the haw river . Always love the vids keep on catching 🎣
Still cant beat the old hobie outback with the old rudder and Regular turbo fins. Light enough to put on my car, and wheel into places while still being a deadly fishing platform. The new rudder desghn and 180 fins Suck.
That’s a citation bowfin in NC. Proud day ! 😅
Amazing how close all these different species are. Fun day. Like the new kayak too.
Looked like it could move fairly fast. Not a fan of the noise it makes. I have a MotorGuide XI3 on my Hobie PA 14 and it’s very quiet. Silent at low speeds
To bad were on opposite sides of the country.... I would have a blast fishing with you!
That’s all right she moves that’s for sure. Every yak has its purpose. I finally had pulled the trigger on the auto pilot. Obviously spot lock is awesome. I also love the north heading feature. A more point and shoot type deal!
This would be a good kayak for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. After a long day chasing sheepshead, flounder, cobia. You can use the cruise control to head back in to the beach. Great video 🤙
Love the Chesapeake bay bridge awesome fishing there.
Stopped and liked😁, you finally called them the right name! Love your creek fishing trips
People just don't understand that Bowfin are native species that do not hurt any ecosystem. Really cool to see ya catch them Elias!
I spy where you are in the BR 😂
Congratulations on the yak sir
catching a bass on a bottom sweeper with blue crab is pretty sweet
Fishfinder gonna look different flying along in that thing. Gonna be getting sharp arches like you're humming along in a boat.
You are right! I gotta know when to slow
It back down more.
You're actually supposed to cut the tags. A lot of people are confused. The ncwrc first said to cut them, then to take a pic or write the tag number down, and NOW they want you to cut the tags.
From what a wildlife biologist told me people were taking pictures or writing the numbers down and giving the numbers to friends or kids and calling it in multiple times for the rewards.
Jeez good to know!
Great segment Elias, lots of variety
Fascinating bag today, especially wrapping up with Amia calva. Always interesting to see who is lurking close to the salinity line in your creeks.
How fast was it on cruise with no pedal assist?
About 4mph
Definitely a great day on the water buddy! Mixed bag of species is always a good time.
Im guessing the clickbait bowfin RUclipsr is 618 Fishing? Lmao 🤣 🤣
Right on, loved the “Mud Slam”, adding a gar would have been awesome. That kayak has a lot of potential for the different ways you fish, I would love to see more of it.
so those fish don't leave they there all the time?
Some do leave but majority are residents
First time I've seen you catch a bowfin or as we call them in Louisiana, Choupique.
Nice one! Did you know they sell Choupique caviar and it's pretty good, btw.
I love your videos! Thanks!
Wow! That’s really interesting!
Have any chance you hook with gator? Look scary on your spot
Have caught a walleye?
I love catchingn Bowfin. They are fun and usually a good size Can make fish cakes by scraping meat with spoon
Glad your carpel tunnel got better. Enjoy the new ride.
I thought about buying an epdl but I decided to just buy a 100ah lithium battery, 36lb thrust trolling motor, and a pod trolling motor mount for my kayak for about $500. I am extremely happy with my choice and my wife was happy I didn't spend $5500 more lol. I am reaching about $3000 on my current setup, though.
Took me a while to get around to this one. That's a wild slam.
Love the innovation, really feel like it helps push the industry forward. Price puts it out of reach, but understandable for first generation.
Variety sure makes for a fun day👍
I'm thinking those missed hookups were gar. Not like you to miss a fish.
I have been waiting for this. Thinking of adding one to our fleet. Great video.
No one in their right mind would ever buy a $6000 kayak. You can get a decent used bass boat & motor at that price! This product is a great giveaway to RUclipsrs, but a ludacris product to the every day consumer market. It’s actually quite comical 😂
Seems like the drive screen takes up some cockpit space but hard to tell from your camera angle. Does it feel tight? What waters/applications do you think best for this?
I think if you have a lot of spots that are some reasonable distance apart this makes a lot of sense. It’s also your preference of what has better fishability - a kayak or a boat. Also if you are chasing a lot of surface fish, striped bass, albies, mackerel, etc this is a top of the line kayak for that too.
If you are only fishing a mile or so from your access point and no reason to get to areas quickly - you probably won’t gain a whole lot. If you are going to cover three miles worth of stuff and want to bounce through stuff quickly and know there is lots of dead water in between this makes sense.
Yep it’s tighter than other kayaks I’ve been on. Will take getting used to what to do with fish. (More netting and leaving in the water going forward)
Are you bumping it along the bottom ?
Mostly yes.
I’m a loyal old town fan boy but for me this kayak missed the mark. Proprietary only to the epdl big water and not plug and play with their other models. 6k+ after all said and done for it and I can’t even spot lock or swap the drive to other models is just a miss for me. I get the use for it and how people want the option to pedal and have the power but at 6k I feel like the market for this is super niche and they missed a giant target audience with it. I’ll stick with my ap and salty for pretty much the same price.
Nice!
I’d love to see you fish these brackish areas in the summer
Great video thanks enjoyed it
Could you ride that thing in the Ocean?
It’s a solid platform imo. Small surf it’ll manage 👍
another super fun clip
What does the tag signify?
C'mon Elias....time for a bowfin Catch & Cook, LOL!!
If those waters weren't questionable I would in a heartbeat! Lots of health advisories on bowfin here.
Love to see the great first impression! I’m sure you’ll get to it at some point, but any thoughts on open ocean use? Thoughts on pedal positioning? Looked like your legs were going back further and higher.
I think it’ll be viable in the ocean.
@@EliasVFishing Thanks bruh! Safe travels and Merry Christmas!
Noisy
Question for you my man, what do you to for work? Jealous of your ability to get out on the water so much. Thanks for making these!
Most “larger” channels do this stuff full time off ad revenue and maybe a little stuff on the side.
He’s an old hustla’ from Brooklyn. A little here a little there, shuckin an jiving. 😂
Elias, congrats on the new boat! As a kid I was fishing on the mud wall creek in Texas and we caught a fish that looked a lot like your bofin that they called a grunnel? I haven't seen anything like it until your video.
Grinnel is one regional term for them. They have several, depending on where you're from.
@@nathanclark4674 Mudfish too. I think bowfin is most widely used, except for _Amia calva_
perhaps.
@@minniesfishies3024 LOL, everybody calls em by their Latin designation....we just use the local names to show our gang colors🤣
Do you feel the resistance (or if any) when you manually pedal from the motor without any assist?
Yes a little resistance
Elias,
What type or brand of pants/bibs do you wear when it’s cold and you don’t want to get wet? I’m a big guy and looking for a kayak, so I’m trying to get ready. I’m in Nashville, TN
I wear a drysuit
Would rather but even this video have a flounder video but it’s a great view even tough it’s great to watch, great clip as usual
Know who you're talking about re youtuber bowfin/clickbait. Gets old fast.
Thanks for a look at the new epdl kayak (and some cool catches). Been looking forward to this since the original video.
I have an Autopilot 136, Would never want to give up that autopilot feature!!!
What I like about this model is If battery dies or motor malfunctions pedal home!
I tried paddling my 136 for the fun of it, wasn't fun at all 😰
If I were to do again I would get a Pedal Yak and put a Autopilot troller on it !!
That’s a nice rig, I love to have one of the old style peddle drives. Maybe one day
Why a no no to eating the catfish?
Pollution
Hey do you have to register that kayak in NC? Ive got a OT132 and thought about getting it.
Yep registered mine.
I guess NC gonna get their money anyway they can.
I'll never understand letting fish go. I could eat for 3 months with the fish he threw back
Striped bass can’t be kept - catfish and drum are both contaminated
Contaminated from what?@@EliasVFishing
aresenic & hexavalent chromium@@kc696969
Where do you get your information about water quality to know where to eat fish from?(Southport
epi.dph.ncdhhs.gov/oee/fish/advisories.html
Always entertaining content. I know that area well and this time of year it’s relatively bug free. Amazing how that river system is so diverse in fish species. At some time of the year I’ll bet you can catch any fish in NC except trout and walleye. Would you mind telling what your outer suit is? Thanks for your work.
NRS Explorer Drysuit
Have you ever thought about getting the seadoo fishing jet ski! That’s what imma get soon!
Those things are pretty cool. Would try and figure out how to get a trolling motor on it.
Not to be mean but a $6000 kayak is no longer a Kayak, it is an adult toy... no matter what the manufacturer says, there is nothing to justify that price, for a plastic boat whose basic construction costs is between $150 and $600 with all the additional hardware... This trend of $3k + kayaks has to stop as it is actually killing what the essence of kayak fishing was and reducing it to another place where wealthy adult males overspend just to flash their large discretionary spending accounts... Please stop promoting these manufacturer who are actively killing the sport. PLEASE STOP BUYING THESE BOATS, buy a real boat instead if you are going to spend that much.
Man I love fishing for big bowfin on light tackle. Let me know if you wanna get on some bigger ones. 28"+ January is one of my favorite times of year to fish for them, don't have to be up early fish from 10-3 when that water starts warming up the bite gets hot, can catch 30-50 a day with an average size of about 25" and biggest ones being close to 30"
Damn bud save a few for us other bums