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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2016
  • My first talk show with a live audience in the USA during my early days of activism. Thank you, Phil Donahue. You are a gentleman.
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  • @EnchantedAndGaming
    @EnchantedAndGaming 6 лет назад +348

    for some reason, her facial expression reminds of of princess Diana.
    she is gorgeous.

  • @MsMsmak
    @MsMsmak 7 лет назад +282

    Such a gracious response the hostile questions. Well done. You've been a great role model for everyone, trans or not.

  • @Redd91ful
    @Redd91ful 4 года назад +252

    I love how she’s answering the negative questions. With positivity, a smile, and a little humor

    • @Prieze868
      @Prieze868 2 года назад +9

      I'm sure she sees a lot of hideous people in her life but she doesn't feel the need to go up and tell them

    • @MediaBuster
      @MediaBuster 2 года назад +3

      "She"?

    • @mscakesjackson2741
      @mscakesjackson2741 2 года назад +12

      shes iconic for real

    • @MediaBuster
      @MediaBuster 2 года назад +2

      @@mscakesjackson2741 Not a she.

    • @mscakesjackson2741
      @mscakesjackson2741 2 года назад +9

      @@MediaBuster yes jealous sissieeeyyyyyy thae she that u never could or will ever compete with lol now u jealous and bothered ,its not her fault she ran circles around every woman in your family including u with ease why u taking it out on her??

  • @MissBunnyTV
    @MissBunnyTV 5 лет назад +189

    This young lady at 35:40 shut ALL rude transphobic people in the room down! What a beautiful and understanding woman 💖

    • @TheGreg131313
      @TheGreg131313 5 лет назад +9

      She was probably paid by the show .Sounded a little rehearsed especially at the end when she asks about Caroline 's family

    • @lilyluster
      @lilyluster 5 лет назад +1

      yesss i was so suprised someone is nice🙌🏻

    • @nicholas8484
      @nicholas8484 2 года назад +5

      she made me so happy

    • @nicholas8484
      @nicholas8484 2 года назад +1

      @@kaylinussy1911 same

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 Год назад +11

      The ginger feminist was raging at Tulas beauty, grace, poise and sense of humor. While trying to be pro women she also made it seem as if women who flirt as “less then” other women.

  • @BB-qk8on
    @BB-qk8on 2 года назад +25

    Tula was right the man at 20:48 is absolutely closeted

    • @Charlotte-kv7bk
      @Charlotte-kv7bk 2 месяца назад +2

      I wonder if he is? Usually they KNOW .

  • @madamadam5951
    @madamadam5951 Год назад +21

    17:21 i love this moment when the lady in the audience says good girl

    • @gypsylee333
      @gypsylee333 5 месяцев назад

      There is nothing I hate more than when someone says "good girl" to me like I'm their Fkin DOG 🤮🤮 especially disgusting to say to a grown ass MAN. Only a troon would think that is cute, never a real woman. You're exposed sir, YWNBAW it's obvious from the way you all behave we are nothing alike.

  • @scattysafari7742
    @scattysafari7742 5 лет назад +131

    Ms Cossey, you were the first trans person I remember having a huge impact on me and educating me on your situation. Thank you for being a warrior in an era when there was no support for trans people. You are a hero.

    • @Hamaswife
      @Hamaswife 4 года назад +4

      I'm Tired Of It Too
      But if you keep it a secret you’re putting yourself at grave danger if the guy finds out.

    • @anourtine6204
      @anourtine6204 4 года назад +6

      ​@I'm Tired Of It Too Just to give you a little perspective, trans people who pass effortlessly as the opposite sex (like Caroline and myself) don't need to be loud, obnoxious and volatile, because we don't need to fight for anything. No one gives us sh**... it's the people that don't pass, that look like "men in dresses" that need to be loud and defensive... why? Because people are giving them sh** left and right. Your issue is not with "modern trans people" you're issue is with people who don't pass...... and look at it this way, a lot of trans people can't pass as the opposite sex because they don't have the money or resources to do so. They can't afford hormones or expensive surgeries. Think before you categorize us as "confused," because often there are bigger issues at play. I have the privilege to live my life as a woman, without anyone realizing I'm male... but what if I did look like a man in a dress? I would be confused... I WAS confused. I was loud too back then... give us some slack.

    • @LadyDiana1956
      @LadyDiana1956 3 года назад

      @@anourtine6204 my feelings exactly. Those of us who can , we do , and those who can’t, bitch about it.

    • @dewilew2137
      @dewilew2137 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@anourtine6204 He does not “pass effortlessly”, and you probably don’t either.

    • @anourtine6204
      @anourtine6204 9 месяцев назад

      @@dewilew2137 That’s bold of you to say with a George Washington hairline, but you do you boo.
      Or should I say, we the people do we the people? LOL

  • @epistte
    @epistte 3 года назад +121

    I remember this episode when it aired. I was desperate to find another trans person. I transitioned at 24 in 1992. The introduction to her book ( My Story) still makes me cry like a baby because it hits so close to home.

    • @zarajenkins6948
      @zarajenkins6948 2 года назад +7

      Likewise for me too, I remember reading the book and highlighting certain paragraphs that resonated with me, it really helped although I knew from the age of about 7 that I should have been a girl

    • @Lordmij
      @Lordmij 2 года назад +1

      Gay or bi or transgender. everything else is just bs too me

    • @Shinobi33
      @Shinobi33 2 года назад +2

      Good for you. I wonder what you think of all these trans woman now. Some don't fully transition and stay dating and married to women. Do you think these trans women are really trans or just want attention?

    • @epistte
      @epistte 2 года назад +4

      I read Renne Richards book and Jan Morris book as well. It was those two books that taught me that trans people existed and I was not just a freak for wanting to be a girl.

    • @epistte
      @epistte 2 года назад +7

      @@Shinobi33 They are who they are and have the right to be happy in their body. I have no place to judge others.

  • @vorndran71
    @vorndran71 5 лет назад +74

    She is absolutely stunning here. The fact that she stayed graceful and respectful through all those rude questions and statements from the audience was amazing, something I know I would NOT have been able to do. That entire audience knew damn well that she blew them ALL out of the water and we’re just jealous 💁🏻‍♀️

    • @Fireglo
      @Fireglo 3 года назад +4

      What rude questions and statements?

    • @IncubusOfDeath
      @IncubusOfDeath 3 года назад +5

      Most of the questions were rude and blunt...

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 Год назад +2

      Absolutely they were raging at Tulas beauty and grace and poise!

    • @dewilew2137
      @dewilew2137 9 месяцев назад +3

      Graceful? He was vulgar and gross.

    • @dewilew2137
      @dewilew2137 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@tula1433 y’all are delusional 😂😂😂

  • @Maki-00
    @Maki-00 7 лет назад +95

    I remember watching this interview as a teenager. Back then, talk shows were real instead of just being freak shows. Watching these shows helped me understand transgendered and gay people at a young age. I'm glad I saw these things.

    • @littlecasino60
      @littlecasino60 7 лет назад +4

      I think the first Donahue show I saw about transsexuals was with Sheila and Gene Reynolds. Remember that one? They married as a husband and wife not knowing either were transgender and they each changed their gender. I know that Sheila died a few years ago, but I think Gene is still alive but was identified as Jean in Sheila's obituary not 'Gene.'

    • @TT-rz5td
      @TT-rz5td 4 года назад +2

      I remember seeing this as a teen too!

    • @DaGubah501
      @DaGubah501 3 года назад

      @@littlecasino60 that’s hilarious & beautiful makes life so fun. Imagine if in heaven you can go from life form to life form and keep living.

    • @msrain1235
      @msrain1235 3 года назад +2

      I first saw her, on the Power Station's music video, Some Like It Hot. It wasn't until I saw her, on Donahue, that I knew that she was transgender. I would never have guessed because she's beautiful!

    • @pamsnowberger1129
      @pamsnowberger1129 2 года назад +1

      This was absolutely meant to be a freak show.

  • @VeroniqueMystique
    @VeroniqueMystique 7 лет назад +105

    Wow! FIERCE. For someone who didn't want to be the one, and by that I mean you wanted privacy, you carried the torch with such flare, dignity and a sense of humour. I truly admire this and you. You are a LEGEND.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 Год назад +3

      Absolutely she is a legend!

  • @1erickjon
    @1erickjon 6 лет назад +40

    She/you remind me SO much of Princess Diana...facial mannerisms, eyes, body language. I remember this from when I was a young gay kid growing up in Wisconsin. SO glad to find it again!!

  • @upriverboy
    @upriverboy 2 года назад +18

    It's hard to believe how long ago this was! I took a father/son trip to New York City in June 1990. It's the only time in my life I traveled alone with my Dad. We were at NBC Studios taking a tour when a producer opened a hallway door and randomly chose us as recipients of last-minute tickets to the Phil Donahue Show. As a young gay man, Phil was one of my heroes. Dad was the son of a Baptist minister, and we had no idea what guest was in store for us. It was awkward, but one of those benchmark moments of life. Until now, I've never seen the broadcast! Decades later, after I married my partner of 20+ years during a return trip to Manhattan, my father was surprisingly supportive. I give a little credit for that to Mr. Donahue!

    • @03817
      @03817 2 года назад +4

      What a great story Edward 🙂. Do I understand You correctly, that the time you and your dad were pulled to be in the audience of the show was the episode with Tula ?

    • @merricat3025
      @merricat3025 Год назад

      That's nice story

  • @user-ce5bw3gf3u
    @user-ce5bw3gf3u 5 лет назад +67

    This woman is too exquisitely beautiful for words!
    she reminds me quite a bit of princess Diana

    • @Cardsmaster
      @Cardsmaster 5 лет назад +1

      Monique Lim they both have something in common...they were born men.

    • @josephprince3111
      @josephprince3111 3 года назад +3

      @@Cardsmaster Diana wasn't born a man

    • @mikaylaraymond3173
      @mikaylaraymond3173 3 года назад +5

      @@Cardsmaster One that's whole comment was unnecessary

    • @MissAlexia
      @MissAlexia 3 года назад

      @@josephprince3111 really ? I didn’t know that …. Lol stfu

    • @prettysick9070
      @prettysick9070 2 года назад

      @@MissAlexia I hope you're joking

  • @user-rs1wc9qs3n
    @user-rs1wc9qs3n 3 года назад +58

    As a trans man watching this now the way she's treated here is absolutely disgusting. Her grace is a survival mechanism though her grace is admirable for these invasive questions and blatant exposure of her past and information about her transition.

    • @Lordmij
      @Lordmij 2 года назад +5

      Why, do u think this is natural? The fact that you are changing yr biology is ludicrous in my mind, the world needs to be more tolerant yes, but this is un natural to me and I'm sure to others as well

    • @melancolie83
      @melancolie83 2 года назад

      @@Lordmij Well, does it bother you as much when people have plastic surgery? When someone missing legs get prosthetic ones? What about women who take the pill? Or even when people dye their hair, have tattoos or wear makeup? Because none of these things are natural either. What is 100% natural though is the deep inner feeling of what we are, our identity. Scientific research has proved no amount of therapy could change gender identity, but you can change your body to match it. Why live a miserable life in a body you hate when doctors can help you, just because hormones and surgery aren’t “natural”?

    • @Lordmij
      @Lordmij 2 года назад +3

      @@melancolie83 yup, all physical alterations are all unnatural, but def necessary at times

  • @worldtraveler134
    @worldtraveler134 5 лет назад +27

    2019 Tula would be a World Class Star

  • @joeewell4846
    @joeewell4846 Год назад +12

    I also have XXXY chromosomes, having come out in late June 2022. I also have NCAH with female internal organs, including a uterus and tubes and ovaries. At 28.30 she mentioned the black outs which I also have but she did not mention about being epileptic or autistic which I am as well. I was born, for all intended purposes, a girl but developed into a boy over a period of between 3-7 years. She was the first xxxy I had ever heard of outside of my own condition.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 2 месяца назад +3

      Tula is the real deal. These days many heterosexual male transgenders claim to be intersex but aren’t. Lots of fetishists posing as trans now sadly. Much respect for her! ❤

  • @BenjaminMoos
    @BenjaminMoos Год назад +20

    You were the first person who made me realize that trans people existed and I wasn't alone and I could be who I was, even though it took me a while to get around to it... Thank you.

    • @BenjaminMoos
      @BenjaminMoos Год назад +1

      My name on here is not correct, because I don't know like I hardly ever use youtube for actually interacting with people.

  • @chanroobi7460
    @chanroobi7460 5 лет назад +21

    I remember seeing Tula in the early 90s and thinking "Wow! What an absolutely beautiful lady! Have you guys seen her now days? She has aged gracefully and is still as stunning as she was back in the day! I love you, Tula! Hope life is lovely and full of joy for you!

  • @Bageera63
    @Bageera63 5 лет назад +26

    I remember watching this. At the time, I was left with many questions. Questions that were not asked by the audience. I have since had these answered. You see, we didn't have computers in every home back then. Thank you for posting the video.

    • @emmie1176
      @emmie1176 2 года назад +3

      Well what questions did you have? Don't leave us hanging

  • @RustledAngels
    @RustledAngels 6 лет назад +46

    Wow, she's so beautiful and charming with cute mannerisms. And her HAIR! I love that volume. I love how even though she suffered from gender dysphoria she didn't want the world to change for her she made the money to change herself and live how she wanted. And by putting he past behind her she has a very successful modeling career. I hate that she was forced to talk about her past when she didn't seem to dwell on it at all and completely passed as a woman.

  • @annieq8186
    @annieq8186 7 лет назад +104

    Wow I feel bad for her, they're treating her like she's a sideshow freak.

  • @AmaanStorm
    @AmaanStorm 5 лет назад +32

    Wow. I don’t really know how I ended up finding this video, but I’m sure glad I did.
    Looking at the closing credits, this was 1990. I was 10 years old and was unaware of transsexuality. I was also unaware of homosexuality or anything other than what my parents were. But I knew I too was different.
    Growing up, my journey has been completely different to Tula’s, but to see a beautiful, strong, intelligent and warm human being on that stage, taking comments that were both supportive and not with such grace......it doesn’t matter what gender you are....class is clearly something you’re born with.
    Also, we as human beings constantly have the need to identify as something, be it sexuality, a culture, a religion or a gender....there’s a need to define who we and others are constantly, when in actuality our actions should be the only thing that define us. Before anything we’re human.
    Thank you Caroline for posting this. You’re remarkable.

  • @JoannaLouise200
    @JoannaLouise200 4 года назад +46

    Well done Tula for holding your ground with such grace. How on earth you had the patience with this bigoted thicko audience I really don't know. A chat show host would never get away subjecting you to such insulting prejudice these days. It must be strange looking back on this awful 'American experience. I hope you're keeping well and dont forget there are millions in the UK and the world that love and respect you, and always will.

    • @studiosfifty4
      @studiosfifty4 Год назад +1

      Well things were different then, and I disagree with you as the trans thing was little known , you talk from a young persons point of view. I am neither for or against transexuals but have a certain respect for Tula as she had something that many transwomen today certainly will try to achieve but will never have.

    • @tjaspire
      @tjaspire 5 месяцев назад

      Your hatred for American culture is evident, but she came to OUR country, so you can't expect us to behave like you. We're not like the Brits who hold their emotions inside and repress our feelings when we feel a way about something. We figure it's better to know where we stand. She said that in school, in England, she would come home with black eyes and a busted lip for being labeled as a "sissy" and a "pansy," so apparently the treatment wasn't superior in England either, and there are bigots and "thickos" in your country as well. But thanks for remotely judging our country off of a 34 year old clip and falsely believing that you're superior. The arrogance. 😂

    • @tjaspire
      @tjaspire 5 месяцев назад

      Your hatred for American culture is evident, but she came to OUR country, so you can't expect us to act like you. We're not like the Brits who hold their emotions inside and repress our feelings when we feel a way about something. We figure it's better to know where we stand. She said that in school in England that she would come home with black eyes and a busted lip for being labeled a "sissy" and a "pansy," so apparently the treatment wasn't superior in England either, and there are bigots and "thickos" in your country as well. But thanks for remotely judging our country off of a 34 year old clip.

  • @lentzu
    @lentzu Год назад +6

    How can you hate such a wonderful person ❤

  • @lct8954
    @lct8954 7 лет назад +51

    Donahue used to be lit

  • @MsGhost87
    @MsGhost87 5 месяцев назад +1

    I wish we had this kind of discourse again. You don't hear yelling or hate.
    This is why manners & respect is so important to teach your children & to lead by example.
    I love watching these old episodes! Such nostalgia 😊

  • @vanessad7599
    @vanessad7599 7 лет назад +47

    She is absolutely gorgeous !!! From head to toe Caroline is absolutely breath taking ..in her day I have to say she may be in the top 5 ! She is so inspiring and educated! She's so sweet ,,everyone deserves to be loved!!! Love her facial expressions , body language , and voice , if she wasn't ment to be a woman idk who is! So stunning

  • @boredweegie553
    @boredweegie553 3 года назад +33

    Imagine being blamed for being born neither male or female..humans are Disgusting but got so much respect and admiration for her though. Utterly stunning and good in her for all she's achieved ❤️❤️❤️

    • @tiagopaes9524
      @tiagopaes9524 9 месяцев назад +2

      There’s no such thing as being born neither male or female

    • @loosilu
      @loosilu 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@tiagopaes9524 Yes there is. Many people are born intersex. I would encourage you to check out the biology. Whoever told you there are only two sexes at birth needs a biology class.

    • @springinggrass
      @springinggrass 4 месяца назад

      Tula is male. XXXY syndrome does not mean you are both sexes or that your development 'can go either way' as Tula states in the video. XXXY genes produce a male with sex organs that do not form correctly. They may have small testes or testes that aren't visible or a micropenis, they can't produce sperm, and they may have erectile dysfunction. They're still men. They may also have gynecomastia, which means they may grow some breast tissue. Again, still men.

    • @HeatherLikesArt
      @HeatherLikesArt 2 месяца назад

      ​@tiagopaes9524
      Lol.
      Yes there is. Didn't you listen to anything. Even the physician explained it regarding the xxxy chromosomes.
      Look up about intersex.
      It really is a thing And it's nothing new.
      Get educated.

  • @johnnj3858
    @johnnj3858 7 лет назад +52

    Your strength, courage and determination made you one the most beautiful women in the world at that time.

    • @atlasshrugged2u
      @atlasshrugged2u 7 лет назад +4

      The most beautiful *trans* woman at the time, Ok. Get it right dude!

    • @MIZORAM_mafaka_hnamte
      @MIZORAM_mafaka_hnamte 6 лет назад +2

      NJ Rock *Very True*

    • @mikaylaraymond3173
      @mikaylaraymond3173 3 года назад +2

      @@atlasshrugged2u Woman trans is prefix still a woman she's a beautiful woman of trans experience

    • @atlasshrugged2u
      @atlasshrugged2u 3 года назад

      @@mikaylaraymond3173 That's a nice way to put it lol! You should be an attorney.

  • @bb-ne3ku
    @bb-ne3ku 5 лет назад +55

    ugh. just came here after watching Joan Rivers’ interview. Such a stark difference - Joan treated Caroline like a human being, and showed sincere interest and compassion. Donahue and his simple audience treated her like a zoo animal. Unsurprising, but disappointing. Love you, Tula ♥️

    • @Fireglo
      @Fireglo 3 года назад

      What are you talking about? How did they treat her like a zoo animal?

    • @yaggayaggaya9918
      @yaggayaggaya9918 2 года назад +3

      I mean, Joan treated her the same in my eyes, her questions were very invasive, the only difference is she didn't hate Tula and was just curious whereas this guy is clearly disgusted by her. Today, asking questions about medical procedures anybody has had and about their sex life would be considered extremely rude and unnecessary, either way she handled it like a pro.

  • @sak30
    @sak30 4 года назад +56

    I miss the simplicity of older television, everything is so over edited nowadays with dramatic music and sound effects making it seem tacky and hard to watch.

    • @JackRossiney
      @JackRossiney 3 года назад +1

      S AK....Ive got to totally agree

  • @trashleigh87
    @trashleigh87 Год назад +7

    She's a pioneer!

  • @natalinagarcia4667
    @natalinagarcia4667 3 года назад +12

    ok so she’s fucking GORGEOUS and the way she answered those passive aggressive ass rude questions with honesty and humor and she kept a smile she didn’t let them get to her not one damn bit

    • @richalderson6069
      @richalderson6069 3 года назад

      What kind of questions were you expecting back in this time? Society was very different back then and individuals like Caroline were very rare to see in the mainstream. I personally think the questions are just pretty honest otherwise the show would be pretty boring if they were all lovely and sweet.

    • @1991-present
      @1991-present 3 года назад +2

      @@richalderson6069 OP never said they shouldn't have been asked. She said they were passive aggressive. Which they were. Tula handled them well. Thats all what was being said.

  • @scarlettmagic3752
    @scarlettmagic3752 5 лет назад +67

    She was and is so beautiful I feel so annoyed at some of the hateful expressions on the audience members I was like are u serious?!!!!😡 She is a lovely Beautiful charming Lady just leave her be

    • @mpiugdtyhgffijfcxp3613
      @mpiugdtyhgffijfcxp3613 4 года назад +5

      I'm Tired Of It Too Good thing trans people aren't pretending to be anything.

    • @Girrrrrrrrrrrrrl66
      @Girrrrrrrrrrrrrl66 4 года назад +1

      They're all confused as to why they think she is stunning and she used to be a man and they are attracted to her

    • @mikaylaraymond3173
      @mikaylaraymond3173 3 года назад

      @@Girrrrrrrrrrrrrl66 She never was man she was born a woman but with external male genitalia it needed to match her gender in her sex together they're confused because they're attracted to her and they're transphobic

    • @Girrrrrrrrrrrrrl66
      @Girrrrrrrrrrrrrl66 3 года назад

      @@mikaylaraymond3173 you're right but you're wrong about one thing they're not transphobic they are trans lusting

    • @aprilrae6551
      @aprilrae6551 2 года назад +1

      She not really trans though. She is actually intersex. Most trans are 'XY' males, with all male sex traits.

  • @gieyu1
    @gieyu1 5 лет назад +17

    This was back in the early eighties by which her issue was just starting. She made the bravest move to come out and be on the hot seat with those people challenging her gender and her difference at that time.

    • @Lordmij
      @Lordmij 2 года назад +1

      Late eighties hun

  • @rayarena879
    @rayarena879 5 лет назад +46

    Looking at this video, now, in 2019 (decades after the interview took place), its amazing how we have progressed. LGBTQ people are so much more accepted now in the US and Europe. Tula and other brave pioneers should be commended and remembered for their struggle and bravery. That said, Tula is so poised and charming and prettier than any woman in the audience.

    • @josstrebe6302
      @josstrebe6302 5 лет назад +8

      I'm Intersexed myself and it's still not easy

    • @kvartalnov
      @kvartalnov 4 года назад +9

      Rayarena I was with you until you started comparing Tula to other women based on beauty. I mean people should be loved and respected regardless of their appearance.

    • @dewilew2137
      @dewilew2137 9 месяцев назад

      @@kvartalnov they love to put real women down. At the end of the day, it’s nothing but proof of their misogyny and their male privilege. This is why they won’t be accepted as women. They don’t even respect women.

  • @MetAxa369
    @MetAxa369 Год назад +5

    So polite. No matter what. I hope Tula found happiness.

    • @BoobooPie_91
      @BoobooPie_91 3 месяца назад

      She did she's happily married til this day with her gorgeous husband,God bless them 😍🥰♥️💕🙏

  • @HensleyDon
    @HensleyDon 3 года назад +5

    i remember watching this show live. What a treat to to have you pop up in my in my recommended feed! Beautiful, poised and wry sense of humor. It is fun watching Phil squirm...

  • @HaveSumn_2Loose
    @HaveSumn_2Loose 5 лет назад +38

    Soon as she walked out u could see all the jealousy in the crowd

    • @luhhtonii2770
      @luhhtonii2770 3 года назад +3

      @Firstname Lastname how if she has a chromosome problem meaning she is being herself .you sound so dumb .she was neither male or female before. . she's actually being the opposite she's being her TRUE SELF

    • @mikaylaraymond3173
      @mikaylaraymond3173 3 года назад

      @@luhhtonii2770 And that whole chromosomal thing isn't black and white and she's a prime example of that trans people periods are just being themselves

    • @aprilrae6551
      @aprilrae6551 2 года назад +1

      @@mikaylaraymond3173 But most trans are 'XY' Males, with no female sex traits. She is male and Female, which is intersex.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 Год назад +1

      Absolutely they were seething at her beauty, class and HUMOR. In the words of Britney Spears “there are two types of people in the world, the ones that entertain, and the ones who observe!” And those observers were pressed honey!

  • @michaelleyamamoto9004
    @michaelleyamamoto9004 Год назад +4

    She shook the world on that era of many people who are in their state of ignorance, well we cant blame them! But this Woman is just purely genuine than many other women in the US even in today’s day❤

    • @7521eric
      @7521eric 6 месяцев назад

      He.

    • @joanaisabeel
      @joanaisabeel 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@7521ericShe Eric, she's a woman!

  • @MissMonicaSilvia90
    @MissMonicaSilvia90 4 года назад +10

    Thank you tula. For everything you've done and everything you've fought for. You are an amazing and beautiful soul. Thank you so much, for everything.

  • @johnsonjohnson9389
    @johnsonjohnson9389 2 года назад +4

    20:38 my girl tula took the words right out my mouth 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 he gagged

  • @lanieniide8483
    @lanieniide8483 3 года назад +7

    Aww the women who stood up for her was so sweet 💗

    • @gypsylee333
      @gypsylee333 5 месяцев назад

      Her???? That's a dude

  • @saab23
    @saab23 7 лет назад +15

    Hi,Tula thanks for sharing personal archives of your experience I found you very fascinating and I really admire your bravery you are truly an inspiration to us all.

  • @superradtas8941
    @superradtas8941 4 года назад +30

    So she was actually intersex according to her chromosomes... she is not your typical case of transgender

    • @mikaylaraymond3173
      @mikaylaraymond3173 3 года назад +8

      That doesn't matter chromosomes don't detrime gender. Trans women are women regardless of what chromosomes they have

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 3 года назад +9

      Of course trans women are women no matter of chromosomes but even her biological sex according to her chromosomes she was never a boy, but sort off half of her sex was biologically a cis girl xx and one half xy cis boy (in theory). Most transwomen are born with a male sex, she wasn't.

    • @nicholas8484
      @nicholas8484 2 года назад

      @@1991-present they said gender not sex, maybe you should READ the comment

    • @springinggrass
      @springinggrass 4 месяца назад

      @@teijaflink2226 XXXY syndrome doesn't make a person male and female at the same time. XXXY syndrome causes a male to have underdeveloped or faulty sex organs. Testes, but they're too small or don't make sperm. A penis, but it's too small or can't have an erection. Plus a host of other problems: dental, bone, intellectual, etc.

  • @carolgreenwood5635
    @carolgreenwood5635 3 года назад +3

    Caroline you are a beautiful human being , you were so gracious in this interview , answering questions from a lot of ignorant uneducated people.

  • @jennysquibb7440
    @jennysquibb7440 2 года назад +2

    I remember seeing this when I was young. Thank you for your efforts.

  • @gemini6ish
    @gemini6ish 3 года назад +7

    She's beautiful on the inside and outside. She has an awesome attitude.

  • @NymphZoic68
    @NymphZoic68 6 лет назад +13

    Great sense of humour under the circumstances and a big heart.

  • @cedar418
    @cedar418 3 года назад +2

    Man this woman is gorgeus!! Her smile, her voice, her eyes.. man she is beautiful

  • @jadaaleeshamindexpert7365
    @jadaaleeshamindexpert7365 5 лет назад +66

    She's beautiful af

  • @shayekisitu
    @shayekisitu 7 лет назад +25

    Tula, you are "AMAZING." I remember watching this years ago and was like transfixed at your beauty and grace. There has never been a single doubt in my mind that you were born a woman through and through. Really beautiful. I'm glad to hear you are doing well and that you are happy. I wish you the very best in life. Bless you!😊🌺🌸🌹🌻

  • @jennyhaytch3515
    @jennyhaytch3515 3 года назад +7

    That doctor ♡ - Loving that he stood up and shared his knowledge so clearly to help people's understanding and acceptance.

  • @jamesb1749
    @jamesb1749 6 лет назад +13

    You go Caroline. Live the life. Muah!

  • @biancanatal3204
    @biancanatal3204 2 года назад +3

    Thank you Caroline for being so brave-beyond gorgeous!

  • @truthseeker000000
    @truthseeker000000 3 года назад +10

    Some of these questions regarding her operations seem so invasive and private in 2021. But Donahue was trying to be as open- minded and very respectful. Good on him!

    • @epistte
      @epistte 3 года назад +1

      She did very well under the circumstances. Most of those aren't that invasive. Ive been asked worse.

    • @truthseeker000000
      @truthseeker000000 3 года назад +1

      @@epistte She did indeed. It’s still impolite to ask these personal questions. But I guess she went on the show to try to enlighten the audience about being a trans woman. It was back then in the 80s after all.

    • @richalderson6069
      @richalderson6069 3 года назад

      She's on Donahue to talk all about being a transsexual woman so it's a pretty logical question to ask otherwise they would just be talking to a beautiful but rather uninteresting woman.

    • @truthseeker000000
      @truthseeker000000 3 года назад +1

      @@richalderson6069 That’s a fair point.

    • @richalderson6069
      @richalderson6069 3 года назад

      @@truthseeker000000 I thought so.

  • @JerryCoadySpaceAngel
    @JerryCoadySpaceAngel 3 года назад +4

    Thank you so much Caroline for posting these. I had not seen any of your chat show work before. Especially in the U.K. You came across so genuine, graceful, confident and very smart and classy how you handled the audience members that were obviously transphobic. I read your first edition book in the early 90's and I was very moved by your story. Since then I have always admired you for the beautiful soul you are and helping educate people all over the world by sharing your story. Being your authentic self and a pioneer that lead the way for many others. Beautiful on the outside and inside. I even read your book again a few years back. Happy SUNday darling. May it be filled with an abundance of happiness and everything and more. Glory be to you. : X:-)X

  • @romanreal1991
    @romanreal1991 10 месяцев назад +1

    Such class Mrs Cossey 👏👏 bravaaa thanks to people like you now we are here BTW you remember me to Pricess Diana ❤

  • @englishlady8863
    @englishlady8863 2 года назад +1

    She is amazing, how she managed to stay calm is a miracle.

  • @misssrubie
    @misssrubie 6 лет назад +19

    We've come so far.

    • @KatarinaS.
      @KatarinaS. 5 лет назад +7

      Have we? I'm not convinced.

    • @vford1000
      @vford1000 5 лет назад +4

      Katarina S. We have come on a long way, at least in the UK we can now change our birth certificates and passports.

  • @jasonscott8265
    @jasonscott8265 2 года назад +4

    She is still to this day a beacon of beauty and grace. I hope that the Trans Community recognizes/acknowledges her efforts and successes. She is a trailblazer. I have followed her throughout my life and own her book. Lots of love to you Tula!!

  • @virginia6793
    @virginia6793 3 года назад +7

    Hollywood needs to produce a movie about her life.

  • @italyty
    @italyty 5 лет назад +11

    Your the queen I wasn’t even born and look at you telling your truth wen I had no idea it was mine to

  • @AnxiousTrap
    @AnxiousTrap 6 лет назад +29

    17:15 My favorite part! Yasss
    "Good girl!" lol

    • @hi-jl4oe
      @hi-jl4oe 4 года назад +3

      sameeeee

    • @7521eric
      @7521eric 6 месяцев назад

      My favorite part, "it's not a girl". Applause.

  • @TokyoHottie
    @TokyoHottie 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for posting this Caroline. I truly admire your advocacy and didn't know about this back then. Though most of us Philippine transgenders knew your success being the first ever trans woman Bond girl and model. I am grateful for all the incredible activism you did for our community. This interview showed how amazing you handle it with so much ease and grace. You are an ICON to all of us transexuals! Sending you lots of love from Tokyo ❤❤❤

  • @nikimnray8377
    @nikimnray8377 4 года назад +5

    Tula I wouldn't have been able to be as composed as you with these lynching mobs. You are such an inspiration to so many of us ❤ U

  • @JulieKenton
    @JulieKenton 3 месяца назад

    I like it when Dr. Phil keeps the church hymn saying alive. Because that is the way to go when peope try to change everything up and dismantle themselves. Keep it Church!! Thank you Dr. Phil.

  • @CameronCourts
    @CameronCourts 10 месяцев назад +2

    There is something about her that is very reminiscent of Princess Diana. Her pout and the way she holds her head.

  • @painbow6528
    @painbow6528 3 года назад +1

    This was fascinating. And honest questions which wouldn't be allowed today. Which is a shame.

  • @stratoleft
    @stratoleft 2 года назад +4

    The girl in the green dress with dots is the first one to actually have an honest comment on this show. If I passed you on the street I would be very envious [of your looks]. Finally cutting to the chase. That's what a high fashion model does. They could have just ended this show with her comment alone.

  • @bryannab7566
    @bryannab7566 3 года назад +16

    I like how the guy at 20:30 was so freaking rude but she gets scolded for retaliating?

    • @nicholas8484
      @nicholas8484 2 года назад

      fr-

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 Год назад

      She was right about him tho. He was angry she was living his fantasy! Lol!

  • @daniellet7715
    @daniellet7715 5 лет назад +19

    Well spoken Caroline .. your a fantastic role model for all Trans folk... and if people dont like your flirtiness too bad we are each different and you own your sexuality and carry it very well. A point to be made and not aired in this interview is that sexuality has nothing to do with being Transgendered. You can be either gender and be Asexual, Bi-sexual or Heterosexual. ie gender does not determine sexual orientation. its definitely where a lot of people get all confused.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 Год назад

      Not true. Tula is a true transexual. Just because heterosexual transvestites decided to lump themselves in and erase the homosexual transsexuals doesn’t mean they are all the same. Read the brain studies. I have. They validate early onset homosexual transsexuals ONLY.

  • @Prieze868
    @Prieze868 2 года назад +8

    Caroline sounds like Princess Diana they were educated in the same area

    • @Peter-ov6xh
      @Peter-ov6xh Год назад

      You're not English, are you?

  • @t.yvonneworley8124
    @t.yvonneworley8124 5 лет назад +16

    She was the girl in the "Some like it hot"music video by "The power station "....

    • @TT-rz5td
      @TT-rz5td 4 года назад +1

      I think she was in the Bang A Gong video too.

    • @epistte
      @epistte 3 года назад

      @@TT-rz5td She was also a Bond girl. For Your eyes only. She is wearing a white bikini in the pool scene.

    • @thenightporter
      @thenightporter 12 дней назад

      ​@@TT-rz5tdshe was

  • @darkanser
    @darkanser 6 лет назад +26

    It's funny how she was attacked for embracing being an object. I suppose there's no equivalent but no man would protest being a sexual object or sex symbol. I suppose the rub is that men are never exclusively seen as sexual objects and that was the young audience member's point. I must say she had a really beautiful smile!!!! She was also extremely poised and gracious considering some of the audience member's remarks.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 Год назад +1

      She’s a model. Why is she not allowed to be beautiful and embrace her unique innate sexuality? The person who made that comment probably does the same thing as Tula does but somehow because she’s born male it’s wrong? Every woman in the world wants to be feminine, sexy, and desired but Tula can’t? She EARNED the right to be desired. She fought for those like herself and even today you can still be killed for being TS! So yes it was important for her to change the narrative about transsexuals and tell men it’s OKAY to be attracted to them!

  • @amandaf942
    @amandaf942 7 лет назад +20

    We love you Tula!!

  • @Biofeedback1975
    @Biofeedback1975 2 года назад +2

    Caroline. You are a class act. 👌👌

  • @40davegardner
    @40davegardner Месяц назад +1

    She reminds me of Lady Diana, in the way she composes herself. She is so beautiful. I think a lot of people had a problem with her being beautiful, had she been more masculine they would have been OK.

  • @DougAloud
    @DougAloud Год назад +4

    Tula you are one classy woman! I’ve loved watching your videos and reading up on your story. A really amazing inspiration to all, trans or not. Much love to you x

  • @studiosfifty4
    @studiosfifty4 Год назад +6

    There was a certain grace with Tula that many of the transexuals today certainly dont have, the deportment, hair and less makeup emphasize a more natural feminine outline, The fact that she was chosen to be one of the bond girls in "For your eyes only" does say a lot as they wanted very naturally feminine girls which Tula very much presented as to the film company. The situation with many transexuals today (not all) seem to decide to become trans and lets face it will never hit the mark as Tula did all them years ago. I feel that to some extent today it is like the new craze with many men to become transexuals sometimes out of the blue and some as we all know will never really reach the standard we see here.

  • @ZystynaZay
    @ZystynaZay 2 года назад +2

    What a beautiful soul Tula and just a stunning beauty

  • @valerievancouver365
    @valerievancouver365 3 года назад +2

    Love her so much.

  • @user-nl5mu6es2n
    @user-nl5mu6es2n 2 года назад +1

    Stunning class & confidence

  • @boujiebarbie3198
    @boujiebarbie3198 2 года назад +2

    I love the Beautiful Lady in Pink at around 21:00. She was so cute and welcoming to this young lady on the stage🥰💘

  • @DallasCityGurl
    @DallasCityGurl 7 лет назад +42

    Must of been really hard to sit in front of that audience and endure the cruel comments and ugly looks.

    • @sanaidavis7694
      @sanaidavis7694 4 года назад +1

      I'm Tired Of It Too there was nothing human about this hateful generation

  • @j_freed
    @j_freed Год назад +3

    She's like a hybrid of Farrah Fawcett and Robert Plant. Remarkable.

  • @vforsejrv7801
    @vforsejrv7801 3 года назад +1

    She is amazing❤️❤️❤️

  • @EveryCrazyDay
    @EveryCrazyDay Год назад +1

    Tula is incredible, bulletproof to some honest but often brutally cruel questions. The host seems surprisingly respectful for the time as well. Ultimately Tula is a trailblazer, as a cis white dude I have so much respect for her.

  • @Michael.Chapman
    @Michael.Chapman 3 года назад +5

    A very attractive woman, I hope her life has panned out wonderfully for her.

  • @xiansauchen75chen37
    @xiansauchen75chen37 4 года назад +1

    I’m so proud of you girl xoxo

  • @JadeSmith-yl6kc
    @JadeSmith-yl6kc Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Tula I updated my birth certificate a few weeks ago ❤

  • @ColonizersBlow
    @ColonizersBlow Год назад +3

    So glamorous and beautiful!

  • @jacobbonlender1378
    @jacobbonlender1378 5 лет назад +12

    this video was very hard to watch, my heart hurts for her.

  • @thelessimportantajmichel287
    @thelessimportantajmichel287 5 лет назад +10

    I remember watching this episode so well and it had a huge positive effect on me. Thank you

  • @stefansnellgrove
    @stefansnellgrove 2 года назад +2

    Love that one girl who stood up for you

  • @boujiebarbie3198
    @boujiebarbie3198 2 года назад +5

    Phil struggled to find humor in this situation but he tried to show respect to her and his guest and the audience.

  • @SetChaosMusicLover143
    @SetChaosMusicLover143 3 года назад +4

    Wow so many of these people in the audience were super rude to her . She seems like a really lovely person and you could tell that that she was trying not to be upset.They showed so much ignorance and hate.

  • @Plumppeach4life
    @Plumppeach4life 6 лет назад +17

    Honey, the Doll Tula, ate that queen alive when she clocked he was a closet queen! she said "look at him" lol I know I ain't the only one who caught that.

    • @daniellet7715
      @daniellet7715 5 лет назад +2

      Absolutely .. I picked that too...

    • @daustin8888
      @daustin8888 3 года назад +2

      I always find it funny that the LGBT are quick to use gay as an insult or to undermine a man's arguments and/or masculinity

    • @BB-qk8on
      @BB-qk8on 2 года назад +4

      @@daustin8888 she’s not using gay as an insult. Closeted men are often wildly homophobic.

    • @tula1433
      @tula1433 Год назад +1

      Oh yes. He didn’t want Tula, he wanted a REAL MAN. Either that or he wanted to BE Tula ! Lol! Yassss queen !

  • @freddietommie1904
    @freddietommie1904 4 года назад +3

    she is so golden and tawny