That Bon Ami trick was used on propane engines with chrome rings Propane doesn't have enough carbon to break in the rings hence the use of the abrasive Bon Ami
The original use of the "Bon Ami" trick was Caterpillar. They had a powder that was originally used to seat chrome rings in their products. Heavy duty chrome rings were used in extremely dusty and dirty environments because they were resistant to wear, and they had a very difficult time seating those rings. They came up with that powder (which had some Borax in it) to help seat those rings. Racers immediately picked up on it an started using Borax powder indiscriminately (in whatever form they could buy it) to help seat their chrome rings. Unfortunately, a lot of people started using it on cast iron rings because they had seen racers use it, which destroyed a lot of motors. It should never be used on a motor today, because chrome rings are relatively rare anymore.
The ford 300, trick was get 3 intakes and cut center2 port sectionput cap/ plug were openings, used 3/4 heater hose to balance sections. Back in 70's guys from Norfolk ran Chevy 250+ block with 292 crank, end of night nova with 6 and Camaro with "350" ran 3 times to take night. Ford and Chevy 6's ran good, always liked extra timing.
Ed do flathead mopars 6 cyl benefit by two ..3into1 headers that merge into one tail pipe. Or what do u suggest for best intake scavenging? Or do the flathead 6s not benefit by this type of exhaust
G;day from Australia. The Ausie Barra, has next to nothing in common with the old American design. I think it was redesigned 3 times since 1978. My question for Ed regards, advancing/retarding the camshaft. What is the range of cam degrees, one may desire? I'm currently assembling an old Holden L6. Cam has 23 teeth, so to bump it over one tooth would be 15.6 degrees. Seems a lot to me, I lined the dots correctly. Thank you
Olds offered a .921" lifter on some Toronados and 442s I think, even bigger than the MoPar (and AMC) .904" lifters. I think Studebaker used .904" and even 1.00" solid lifters, too.
I've had two oil pump failures in my entire career. The '65 Riviera had reduced pressure shown by the oil light and the GMC pickup was a rattle trap before it seized up the 454. Neither engine had a problem with the pickup tube becoming detached. Buick had a nylon cam gear that shredded before my friend ever got the car. After he had it a few months he told me he was concerned about the oil light coming on. I told him we better crawl under it and replace the pump. When we got the pan off, we discovered the trouble in the bottom of the pan and inside the pickup screen. I told him that we might as well swap the pump and clean out the nylon shards. It used a press fit tube and I installed it low so the pan could position its depth using a couple washers taped to the pickup and no gasket, we put the pan in place and it had minimal clearance with the pan installed. Of course the washers were removed for final assembly. That was a success story. The GMC 454 was a seized engine caused by a lifter retaining clip breaking and working its way into the oil pump and getting pulled into the gears, locking the pump and seizing the engine. No warning signals were caught by the guy driving the truck.
Just watched this and wow been looking for this type of info on youtube for years!.. loved all the old tricks. Big ? For ed....how have camshafts for flathead mopars improved since 50s
on DIESEL ENGINES they sometime use TALCUM POWDER to break the cylinder glaze on diesel engine that runs too many hours on idle speed, but you have to be careful on how much you use if it is done the right way you will REDUCE the amount of oil consumption on diesel engines that smokes.
Does ed take calls from enthusiasts to share info from noncustomers? I am putting a plan for a hopped up flathead mopar . Hard to find people that can help
Also Ed if this is a true case why would a smaller cubic inch engine doesn't like to much compression vs a bigger stroke engine like 360 sprint car vs 410 sprint car. Or a 2 barrel 360 like is it possible that a 2 barrel 360 like only 14.5:1 compression if more would it make less power. And why would a 410 sprint car love well over 16:1 what's the science behind that or is even any of that true
Ask ed where else we can learn these old basic speed secrets to increase cylinder filling on old flathead mopars with less than efficient intake flow. How do we get more than 100hp from 218cu inch which is a 3.8liter
We have GM guys have the atlas 4200 inline 6 out of trailblazer,envoy,Rainer etc. Check out channel Nivlac57 just broke 1k hp swapped into a 5th gen Camaro. He made over 700 on pretty much stock internals.
Periodic drag racer question...what is required and is it beneficial to run alcohol methanol or ? Compared to gas by using signif bigger carb jets on a flathead for.these fuels..just for racing and then switch back to normal jets for street. I understand the alcohol fuels add oxygen to the I take that gas doesn't do thereby allowing poor intake systems to make more power..just for 'race days. Ha. The basis is that air/oxygen from carbs plus the oxygen released from alcohol yields more burn , torque and power. Or is this hogwash
Ed do flathead mopars 6 cyl benefit by two ..3into1 headers that merge into one tail pipe. Or what do u suggest for best intake scavenging? Or do the flathead 6s not benefit by this type of exhaust
That Bon Ami trick was used on propane engines with chrome rings Propane doesn't have enough carbon to break in the rings hence the use of the abrasive Bon Ami
Thanks for the info, that makes sense!
@@randypozdnikoff4099 propane is great,115 octane,
The original use of the "Bon Ami" trick was Caterpillar. They had a powder that was originally used to seat chrome rings in their products. Heavy duty chrome rings were used in extremely dusty and dirty environments because they were resistant to wear, and they had a very difficult time seating those rings. They came up with that powder (which had some Borax in it) to help seat those rings. Racers immediately picked up on it an started using Borax powder indiscriminately (in whatever form they could buy it) to help seat their chrome rings. Unfortunately, a lot of people started using it on cast iron rings because they had seen racers use it, which destroyed a lot of motors. It should never be used on a motor today, because chrome rings are relatively rare anymore.
Thanks for teaching me, very interesting!
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The ford 300, trick was get 3 intakes and cut center2 port sectionput cap/ plug were openings, used 3/4 heater hose to balance sections. Back in 70's guys from Norfolk ran Chevy 250+ block with 292 crank, end of night nova with 6 and Camaro with "350" ran 3 times to take night. Ford and Chevy 6's ran good, always liked extra timing.
Thanks for sharing this! 👍
Australia had 250ci inline 6in ford falcon , Holden had various ci size inline 6
Ed do flathead mopars 6 cyl benefit by two ..3into1 headers that merge into one tail pipe. Or what do u suggest for best intake scavenging? Or do the flathead 6s not benefit by this type of exhaust
I'll Ask Ed!
G;day from Australia.
The Ausie Barra, has next to nothing in common with the old American design. I think it was redesigned 3 times since 1978.
My question for Ed regards, advancing/retarding the camshaft.
What is the range of cam degrees, one may desire?
I'm currently assembling an old Holden L6. Cam has 23 teeth, so to bump it over one tooth would be 15.6 degrees. Seems a lot to me, I lined the dots correctly.
Thank you
That is a great question. I will ask Ed. 👍
Ed, would a couple fuel lifters between the pump and card reduce the pulse enough. Mike
Good question I will ask Ed
Olds offered a .921" lifter on some Toronados and 442s I think, even bigger than the MoPar (and AMC) .904" lifters. I think Studebaker used .904" and even 1.00" solid lifters, too.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that.
Oil pumps on small block big block good idea to spot weld pickup tube on pump since it’s press fit.
Good call! 👍
I've had two oil pump failures in my entire career. The '65 Riviera had reduced pressure shown by the oil light and the GMC pickup was a rattle trap before it seized up the 454. Neither engine had a problem with the pickup tube becoming detached. Buick had a nylon cam gear that shredded before my friend ever got the car. After he had it a few months he told me he was concerned about the oil light coming on. I told him we better crawl under it and replace the pump. When we got the pan off, we discovered the trouble in the bottom of the pan and inside the pickup screen. I told him that we might as well swap the pump and clean out the nylon shards. It used a press fit tube and I installed it low so the pan could position its depth using a couple washers taped to the pickup and no gasket, we put the pan in place and it had minimal clearance with the pan installed. Of course the washers were removed for final assembly. That was a success story. The GMC 454 was a seized engine caused by a lifter retaining clip breaking and working its way into the oil pump and getting pulled into the gears, locking the pump and seizing the engine. No warning signals were caught by the guy driving the truck.
Thanks for sharing this. 👍
Just watched this and wow been looking for this type of info on youtube for years!.. loved all the old tricks. Big ? For ed....how have camshafts for flathead mopars improved since 50s
Great! and I'll ask Ed! 👍
Saw a guy pore Bon Ami down Chevy 301 in 1961.
Thought rings not seating. Finally pulled heads.
Pistons too small.
on DIESEL ENGINES they sometime use TALCUM POWDER to break the cylinder glaze on diesel engine that runs too many hours on idle speed, but you have to be careful on how much you use if it is done the right way you will REDUCE the amount of oil consumption on diesel engines that smokes.
Thanks for the tip!
Bon Ami French for Good Friend. BTW, an actress on Happy Days has the surname Goodfriend.
Ford 300 Clifford research in socal has everything u need for that engine
Water ,,, water methanol injection was used in WW2 fighter aircraft . In war emergency power .
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A Dyke’s ring was L shaped some old chainsaws from the 70’s tried that type for better sealing I guess they tried it with automobile engines too.
That’s interesting, I’m going to ask Ed about that.
H pipe and headers help scavenging in the exhaust.
Love the channel . I think your microphones are to close sounds muffled . Thx !
Thanks for letting me know, that’s helpful feedback!
Does ed take calls from enthusiasts to share info from noncustomers? I am putting a plan for a hopped up flathead mopar . Hard to find people that can help
I'll Ask Ed and post an answer 👍
Also Ed if this is a true case why would a smaller cubic inch engine doesn't like to much compression vs a bigger stroke engine like 360 sprint car vs 410 sprint car. Or a 2 barrel 360 like is it possible that a 2 barrel 360 like only 14.5:1 compression if more would it make less power. And why would a 410 sprint car love well over 16:1 what's the science behind that or is even any of that true
OK, I hear you, I will ask Ed
Dry sump is way to go when you start spinning 8-9k v8s.
Agreed! 👍
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H pipe also has to be placed at a certain distance in regards to the heat being generated to get the best savaging effect Is this true ED?
I is true, you paint the pipes and run it hard just a bit. Find the spot the paint has burned of the most. Put cross pipe there.
@terrypikaart4394 thanks Terry!
Ask ed where else we can learn these old basic speed secrets to increase cylinder filling on old flathead mopars with less than efficient intake flow. How do we get more than 100hp from 218cu inch which is a 3.8liter
I'll ask Ed in an upcoming video
We have GM guys have the atlas 4200 inline 6 out of trailblazer,envoy,Rainer etc. Check out channel Nivlac57 just broke 1k hp swapped into a 5th gen Camaro. He made over 700 on pretty much stock internals.
Very cool!
Crank case evac
Periodic drag racer question...what is required and is it beneficial to run alcohol methanol or ? Compared to gas by using signif bigger carb jets on a flathead for.these fuels..just for racing and then switch back to normal jets for street. I understand the alcohol fuels add oxygen to the I take that gas doesn't do thereby allowing poor intake systems to make more power..just for 'race days. Ha. The basis is that air/oxygen from carbs plus the oxygen released from alcohol yields more burn , torque and power. Or is this hogwash
I'll ask Ed in an upcoming interview 👍
Ed do flathead mopars 6 cyl benefit by two ..3into1 headers that merge into one tail pipe. Or what do u suggest for best intake scavenging? Or do the flathead 6s not benefit by this type of exhaust
I’ll ask Ed