Scoop, Sigh, or Shrug? | RANKING ALL the NEMESIS Sets | THANK YOU 1300 Subscribers!! | Marvel Champs
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- In this video I’m ranking every hero’s nemesis set! If you pull Shadow of the Past, are you going to scoop, sigh, or shrug??
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0:00 Introduction
4:04 Core Set
13:25 Wave 1
26:19 Rise of Red Skull
30:17 Wave 2
38:23 Galaxy’s Most Wanted
41:15 Wave 3
48:26 Mad Titan’s Shadow
52:55 Wave 4
1:03:04 Sinister Motives
1:08:02 Wave 5
1:16:43 Mutant Genesis
1:21:12 Wave 6 
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I totally blanked on Connection to the Worldmind for Nova so when I said he didn’t have any wilds in his kit, just uh, just ignore that 😅. Doesn’t change my assessment much but I thought I should point that out lol
While there are several difficult Nemesis sets, I think Dark Phoenix is unique in that she directly influences the way you play Phoenix. The others either come out or not and only affects the game when they do. I had the opposite experience as you, where I debated long and hard about whether I wanted to use the last power counter on Restrained, and I decided not to. The very next encounter card was her Obligation. I must admit that made me way more hesitant to Unleash in my succeeding games than it should have.
That's true. I had games where I got the obligation immediately after going Unleashed and it just ended the next turn. Now I only feel safe if that obligation is in the discard pile
Oh you’re 100% correct. I’ve just made the conscious decision to play her with reckless abandon and let the chips fall where they may lol. I don’t necessarily get to Unleashed as fast as I can, if I still feel like I need the 3 THW, but her cards are just so much more fun so I want to experience them in their unleashed form. I have no doubt it’s going to cost me games from time to time but I’m also the type of player that doesn’t mind losing as long as the game was fun 😆
I got into Champions recently and have been binging your videos keep up the good work and happy holidays!
Oh very cool! Well welcome to the game and the channel! I’m so pleased to hear you’re enjoying the videos, and I hope they’ve been helpful to improve your Champs experience! 😄
Thank you for the kind words and happy holidays to you as well!
Awesome analysis! This is the first time I've seen nemesis sets covered-very interesting. Congratulations on 1.3K subscribers!
Thank you very much! Yeah I couldn’t recall any discussion on the topic either so I figured it was time for the Nemeses to have their day in the sun 😆
And as for Ghost Spider, I once got George stolen with three events tucked away. While it sucked, Gwen is so strong that it didn't really slow her down that much. That obligation is definitely a shrug for me, and her fun factor far, far outweighs the perceived difficulty of the card. And if George isn't in play when stolen, you get him in hand once you clear the obligation, so it actually helps you tutor the card. Compared to Riri, that Obligation hurts whether you have progress counters or not.
And for Shadowcat, in the five games I have played on her, I had Emma come out twice. Yes, definitely a scoop. Ugh.
That’s totally fair. I suspect with this list more than maybe some others, personal experience is going to play heavily into how we view these. For me when I ran Gwen through Sinister Motives, I often found myself frustrated by her economy and felt like I couldn’t do very much. Only with George did she seem to work and he got stolen in 3 out of the 5 games 🤣. So my early impressions were rough. I’ve since played her more and have had fun so my opinion has grown of her, but I’m still salty about George getting worried so often. He needs to chill out and trust his daughter more 😅
@@Geallach83 haha that’s good to know!
I really like your Videos - great choice of different topics! Keep it up 🙂.
Thank you very much for watching! I really appreciate the kind words and encouragement! 😊
Great idea and congrats on the 1300! All the best.
Thank you so much!
Congrats on your 1.3k subscriber count! Love your narrative design for the nemesis ranking! Happy Holidays!
Thanks Allen! Happy holidays to you as well! 😊
This was great! 👍👏😁 After the modular decks, when you said you wouldn’t do the nemesis decks, I considered nagging you about it, because it was such a good idea, but I didn’t have to 💪🥳 The comic where Storm fights Callisto for leadership of the Morlocks was the first Marvel comic I owned as a kid. Two days of work left, then I’m playing MC, even if I’m not done with painting Heroquest 😁
Haha yeah they’re just too cool to ignore. And I’m really glad I did this cause this ended up being one of my favorite videos I’ve made. The nemesis sets are just soooo full of flavor and theme, and that goes so unnoticed most of the time (at least for me).
That’s so awesome about that Storm comic! Of all the ones it could’ve been, it’s the one I made a big deal out of lol. I love that story too. The Morlocks were always interesting to me. And it’s funny now because they had to hide because they couldn’t pass for human, and now, ever since Grant Morrison’s run, every mutant looks like a Morlock 😆
Hooray! Finally time to get some Champions in! I’m excited for you! 🥳
To be noted: for Wolverines "Tentacle strike", if you are stunned that 4 damage is happening even in AE for those who went home for safety due low health or dealing with 'death factor' before 'next turn recover'. (or Deadpool).
Also Omega-Red will wipe out some would-be chump blockers (possibly making new candidates) and ping any toughs.
Great points! Wolverine is one of my least played heroes to this day so I haven’t had to put up with Omega Red’s nonsense very much 😆
Love the videos! Very informative for a new player and your recent videos have really helped me to start constructing my own decks, so thank you!
Just an FYI (in case you're interested) - the Wasp minion Beetle is actually female. It's the Janice Lincoln (Tombstone's daughter) version of the character, not the original Abner Jenkins Beetle. Just thought you'd be be interested because you were calling Beetle 'he' in that segment 😁
Sorry, ignore the second part of this! I completely blanked on the text at the bottom where you say you realised Beetle was female. My bad 😅
Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much! No I am interested so I’m glad you shared! I didn’t know her from the comics so that’s very cool. And yeah I felt bad for getting that wrong, I was just moving quickly and didn’t give it a second thought lol. And even though I did put that little tag in there I know a lot of people just listen to the videos so they won’t see it. I’m glad they’ll have your comment here!
Thanks also for the kind words, and I’m very excited to hear you’re building decks! That’s awesome! Has it been enjoyable for you?
Congrats Josh! Looking forward to the next milestone special!
Thank you so much!
Oh gosh, I’m running out of things to sort or rank 😅🤣
Haha just kidding. I can always sort the rankings!
@@GetUpandGame hahaha true.
Btw White Queen is infinitely adding confuse cards on you. So in case you ever get steady you actually have 2 cards to get rid of after defeating her.
@@salsatheone oof. She’s the worst 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Thanks for the fun content! I absolutely agree regarding the 4-hand-size heroes and Valkarie having nemesis sets that are way too good at beating them solo. I play Hulk solo the most out of any hero (I'm a fool for standard) and rush is the only answer to shadows when it pops off.
Well thank you as always for watching! 😊
Yeah I dunno why they have it in for those poor unfortunate souls lol.
That’s very cool to hear you’re a Hulk main! Do you mostly play him in red rush or do you like to mess around with him in all the aspects? I’m not a rush guy myself so when I do get back to Hulk every now and then I usually try something weird that doesn’t work very well 😅
@Get Up and Game! I'm a simple Hulk player: mostly rush red. I play on standard so it's possible to smash most scenarios. I don't do Play D Game type shenanigans and my decks ate fairly simple. I'm drifting toward Wolverine because he fits the playstyle I wanted Hulk to be.
@@chrisdeutsch4669 I’ve said it so much but I just love how you can play this game exactly Ty way you want to. You wanna smash everyone with a red Hulk deck? You can absolutely do that 😁
And yeah I can definitely see Wolverine sliding right in there for you!
One thing I like to do is sometimes shuffle the nemesis decks into the encounter deck from the beginning while setting the modular decks aside for SOTP. This helps me play against the Nemesis decks more
I also like how Kitty’s Obligation is unique. My first game with her and Colossus and pull SOTP with her pretty quick surged into Obligation and got the attachment to Kitty too. Emma’s power, plus the attachment causes problems with Kitty’s obligation. My last turn also pulled out Juggernaut.
That’s a really good idea! There’s probably some nemesis sets I’ve barely (or maybe never) played against so that’s a good way to guarantee you’ll see it 👍
Really enjoyed this!
Thank you! This was one of my favorites actually, really had fun talking about those sets 😊
I’ve gotten into the game recently and have been playing through all the preconstructed decks. I never look at the nemesis cards before the game, because for now I like to be surprised by them. When Dark Phoenix came out I read the card and just laughed. I was already on the back foot in the game (I play 2 handed solo), and her coming out was just curtains.
😂😂😂
Yeah it doesn’t get any more surprising than that lol
As for "Consume the World", there are a few effects that add threat to side schemes in addition to her scheming. EG: Masterplan
Kinda sucks in MPer if CtW comes out, then something made her activate vs AE, then Masterplan then...pop! All in 1 villain phase :( Ah, destiny...
Oh yikes, yeah I forgot about Master Plan lol. I hadn’t played the X-men very much when I made this video so hadn’t bumped into that one yet!
nice video! what do u think of making a variant were u can add other nemesis to the encounter deck.. from other heroes.. maybe add the responsability card from that hero to be the trigger.. and maybe even bring out also the hero as an ally!
Thanks!
That sounds absolutely awesome! I’ve never tried anything like that but I can see it being really fun. If you draw a different hero’s obligation you could bring in that hero and also their nemesis set. Then you’d have the other hero as an ally until maybe the nemesis is defeated or something like that. It would be like bumping into them fighting somewhere else lol. Love it!
@@GetUpandGame exactly! cause theres only one card to bring out the nemesis right? something from the past (i have the spanish versión so its diferent names but u know the one) but u could easily put the responsability cards (the yellow backed ones) from each hero into the encounter deck and if drawn use it to pull that nemesis like killmonger if u pull blakpanthers card and also black panther as an ally.. maybe not with full health maybe 6 health! he can help u fight killmonger and then get discarted.. i think of it as a way of using those heroes i never use.. i have the base only so far and use only spiderman.. i also have iron man prepared.. but that way i could st least use the other ones as allys/nemesis inside the encounter! maybe one extra per encounter offcourde not all of them 🤣🤣 i already ordered thors deck and green goblins and captain america and the red skull expansion and thats it for now!! glad u liked the idea! and im.following your videos on how to build decks!! great work!
You could do a 3hrs video and I’ll watch it 😂
Thx for the time you put into this great content
Oh don’t tempt me 😆
Well thank you so much for spending the time to watch it. I really do greatly appreciate it!
Great video! The enchantress nemesis is so bad that it has put me off playing Valkyrie. I hate including it in the Loki scenario and usually use a different modular set. Maybe we need modular nemesis sets! I might house rule in Drax's nemesis set for Valkyrie if I ever get around to playing her.
You said it, she’s just terrible anywhere you find her lol.
I love the idea of modular nemesis sets! Yotat would be a much worthier opponent for Valk
Maybe Shadows should just be a random pull. Could make for some crazy interactions.
Pardon me, I need to go find Mockingbird in my box because Crossfire just came out 😆
I rarely ever see shadows so this was a interesting and fun video, now I hope I dont get bad luck from watching this😅
😂😂😂
We at Get Up and Game! accept no responsibility for any future Shadows sightings 😆
since everytime I play MC I see shadows of the past... this list is very important to me.... thanks man...
Haha sure! You know, I was thinking about you the other day. I always say Shadows isn’t that bad, and you always say it is, and then I remembered that you play a lot of Spider-Man, and his Shadows is TERRIBLE, so no wonder you hate it so much 😆
@@GetUpandGame 3 live streams in a row with shadows... its 8th card from the bottom of the deck but for some reason I draw the card to find a card and shuffle the deck which causes shadows to end up 3rd from the top after the shuffle... the game hates me... that is my new statement..
Great video once again!
I was wondering if you could help me with a query i have regarding the Sinister Six scenario. When i have more than one villain in play, if i play a card that says ie “Deal 5 damage to the villain” can i choose which one or is it the active villain always?
Yes, whenever you can deal damage to a villain, if there are more than one, you can choose.
Thank you so much!
When you play a card that targets the villain you can choose any of the villains. However if you have an effect like overkill, the over kill damage that spills over will always hit the active villain.
Hope that helps! 😊
Thank you both, I’ve been playing wrong then 😅 and hurting my chances lol
@@carlosfreitas6790 it's fine, it is kinda confusing the first couple times since the rules for these multiple-villain scenarios are either clear mostly about their unique mechanics or stacked on the campaign rulebooks, which is harder for you to get a clear picture of what is or should be properly happening. But please do keep playing this game, it is awesome!
@@artpl100 yeah definitely playing it still 🤩 i just got the Sinister Motives expansion, so i was confused abt this scenario in particular cuz Ghost-Spider has cards that Deal damage to the Villain, and the rulebooks didn’t seem to answer my questions. Glad u guys did 😊 so thank you v much 😁
Fun video. Update for 2024?
Thanks! Unfortunately probably not. Not sure what I’ll be getting up to this year 😕
I THINK Hawkeye had the ‘1 energy give an ally tough’ card in his starter deck, so his nemesis has pericing to keep you from blocking with an ally without loosing them
Oh right Ready For Action. Good call!! I never play with the precons so those aren’t associated together in my head but that makes a lot of sense!
@@GetUpandGame he doesn’t shoot Hawkeye, he shoots your friends 😭
@@GetUpandGame great videos btw, I just recently got into the game and I feel like I learn a lot from these. Galaxies was my first expansion Cus I didn’t read anything ahead of time lmao
@@ancel2236 thank you very much! I’m always very glad to hear when the videos are helpful ☺️.
Ouch lol, well glad you stuck with the game anyways! GMW is certainly rough 😅
@@ancel2236 ooo very good observation! He steals Mockingbird and snipes your allies. Makes me hate him even more lol
Hello maybe its a little bit old but i have a question i started with MC and love it
And right now playing hawkeye and spider woman trough RotRS
If i have mocking bird out and draw shadow of the past crossfire comes into play with quickstrike can i block this attack with mocking bird before the side scheme steal her ?
Hello! Yep! Since you do everything one sentence at a time you’ll completely resolve everything with Crossfire coming in before the side scheme comes out. That’s a good play!
@@GetUpandGame thank you for your fast replie
Was thinking of it but better safe then sorry :) keep up with the good content 🙂
@@zeromus1991 you’re welcome! And thanks! 😀
Old Rivals,when hero Gamora atacks me,she needs to be exhausted or not for this activation?
No exhaustion necessary, she simply deals damage to Nebula equal to her attack. Unfortunate but hilarious 😅
Imagine iron man being captain America’s nemesis haha. And you’re right about spider man’s weakness being medium minions. Such a pain.
You know, I really really hope we get to a point where they take a second look at some of the bigger heroes, and it would be amazing if they did that with Cap and Tony!
And yeah I’d happily trade a swinging web kick and a webbed up for a nice 2 cost 4-5 damage attack lol
@@GetUpandGame agreed!
Have you ever played around with a way to make seeing the nemesis sets more common? Like adding another copy of shadow of the past?
Ha I’ve never done that as I feel like I’ve been seeing Shadows plenty enough for me lately 😅 but there are certainly ways to do it. Standard 2 has another copy of Shadows, and Expert 2 has Seek and Destroy which grabs your nemesis. The Whispers of Paranoia Modular encounter set will bring your nemesis stuff into the game so if you’re wanting to see it there are options!
@johnsenior4821 Have you ever tried anything like that? Are you someone who gets shadows a lot or hardly ever? I used to feel like I never saw it but I sure have been lately lol
@@GetUpandGame Only happens to us once in a blue moon. I'm tempted to try an option to make it more common 😀
@@JDS8515 ooo you could just add a boost effect to it. “Reveal this card”. That would certainly do it!
@@GetUpandGame Great idea!
I have lost a few games because Avalanche came out on a last turn and threw 2 more threat on there to top off the main scheme. He's a total buzzkill.
Ugh. Yeah 3 free threat on top of getting 2 cards is a little much 😡🤣
I feel like every time I play Phoenix I end up fighting Dark Phoenix, but anyone else is intermittent.
Haha of course, of all heroes for that to happen 😅
Hail Hydra
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Nemesis are too swingy for me, so I usually don’t play with them. I like a more consistent experience.
They really are all over the place aren’t they!? So do you just not use Shadow of the Past?
@@GetUpandGame yep, I just remove that card from my deck each game. If I really want to play a particular nemesis, I’ll just use them as a modular set.
@@mitchschroeder1151 very cool! I love how easy it is to make this EXACTLY what you want it to be 😄
Sorry that your experience is THAT bad with Worried father. I have a lot I could say about it, but for the sake of brevity I think you are being way too harsh on it. The fact that you but it in scoop is crazy to me. You can get so much work down with her Web Bracelets that if you are really that worried about him leaving, just focus on those. If I get him early, great. I'll focus on using the cards I put under him liberally then so I get value out of him. And when the obligation does show up, ok, then just go get him and your good for the rest of the game. It's fine to feel a different way about it, I just think it's a bit harsh.
That’s completely fair. Honestly when I was listening back to this in editing I kinda thought about redoing it because I came across, like you correctly say, really harsh. In the end I decided to keep it just because that really was my experience with her.
I didn’t play her right away when SM came out because I was more stoked for Miles. So by the time I got to her the hype for Ghost Spider was pretty off the charts. Then when I took her through SM I just didn’t have the experience everyone was raving about. I found her hand was often clogged with too many effects meant to be played in the villain phase (didn’t help I was playing protection on top of both of her pirouettes and web bindings). So I could see George was meant to help with that and I JUST KEPT losing him lol
So it was partially a function of being overhyped, and partially my very unlucky experiences the first few times I played her that really gave me a somewhat negative feeling towards her. Now, I’ve given her a couple more chances since because I know people really love her, and I want to love her too. I’m a fan of the character and what she’s doing is fantastic. I actually listed her as having one of the top 5 most fun gimmicks in the game in my 50th video celebration. And I do like her now more then I did. But for whatever reason when talking about Worried Father here it just brought back all the frustration and negativity I felt back when so, that’s why it came out like that 😅
But I think you’re assessment is 100% correct, and I thank you for sharing it!