“Ram is a greater hero than Valmiki.” Wow, Varun Grover. This line sums up the whole conversation. The finest round table conversation ever. Thanks, Film Companion. ❤️
hey Gargy... being a Pakistani and from a muslim background I couldnt understand Varun Grover's reference of Ram being a greater hero than Valmiki. If you dont mind can u kindly explain the roles of valmiki and Ram he was talking abt...
usman arif Hey Usman, Valmiki was an ancient Indian poet who had written the ‘Ramayana’, the story of Lord Ram. So what Varun meant was, not giving the due to the writers is an age old cultural issue. And this disparity is still prevalent today. Hope I was able to answer your doubt. 😊
Has to make money somehow to keep his production afloat right? Most producers tend to do one film for money and one for the soul. Hope he does the same too lol. Would be amazing if he did.
KJo directs only the stories he has written. The scripts that he reads are for Dharma Productions and the directors that he has employed in that company.
You talk about Student but Dharma has a great collection of films like kapoor and sons, lunchbox, etc. It’s unfair to say that about kjo bc he knows how to make money through a certain type of films and invest the money earned in some content driven cinema as well. I feel he is great at the job he does.
I wanna ask one thing " when did one thing bollywood produce one good thing ?" Industry is almost completely dominated by Upper caste and they just copy & paste and this is prevalent in every field . Upper caste just do copy and paste even in foreign countries , just look at the Indians abroad . Most of them indulge in cheating in foreign universities . Then they call themselves TALENTED . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
+s a you are a foreigner then why are you commenting on Indiaan page ? dont you have any work to do in your own country ? Dont try to put your nose in others matters .
If Hindi Film Industry ever achieves the level of excellence that audience desire (at least some of them), the contribution of critics like Anupama Chopra and Rajeev Masand will be remembered. It feels great to see that finally someone is asking more relevant questions in an interview than "Apni Khoobsurti/fitness ka raaz bataiye?"
And if you want more relevant questions then watch Rajya Sabha tv interview where Mr Irfaan asks about the craft itself and allows others to speak. He LISTENS very carefully which is very rare in our media.
@@binuvs3924 This is a 2 year old tweet. I didn't know about the existence of blind articles in Bollywood at that time as I myself don't read this kind of stuff. My comment was based on the interviews taken by these critics.
Am I the only one who really appreciated Raanjhana? The stalker aspect was bad, but I felt that it was a very accurate description of the scenery of a small town. Wonderfully written.
I agree with you. The good thing was that they did not justified the characters' actions with a happy ending. Everyone had to suffer the consequences of their actions.
When I heard Moh Moh ke Dhaage, I had to do a bit of research to find out who the lyricist was. Then there was this awesome film Masan! I knew who the director was, but did not know the lyricist of Moh was the writer of that brilliant piece of cinema. And then, I was thrilled to discover he is also the same guy who made a fabulous standup comic act on Padmavaat! Varun Grover is someone am currently in love with! Have a gigantic crush on him! For his capacity to cerebrate!
Film Companion, please do a video with just Anupama and Varun talking about films, writing and scripts. I could listen to this guy talk in his dark, sarcastic but profound tone all day.
Sabko bas 2 word aa gaye hai banda aur bandi, Ladka ya aadmi kaha gaya, hindi me kaha banda a at a hai mughalo ki santano? Banda aapki khidmad me hazir hai
Jay Panjari sab aajkal 'word' bol rahe hai, 'Shabd' ya 'bol' kaha gaya, hindi me kaha 'word' ata hai angrezo ki saltano? Eg: letters in a word .. You get the point? Na english angrezo ki jaagir hai, na urdu mughlo ki.. Ram prasad Bismil jitne urdu ke the, javed akhtr utne hi hindi k hai. :) jo chahe use kar lo.. Cheers!
Please please bring them back. I'm extremely curious on their individual process and also their journey to dream to become a screenwriter. As a film student it would be extremely educational.
I wanna ask one thing " when did one thing bollywood produce one good thing ?" Industry is almost completely dominated by Upper caste and they just copy & paste and this is prevalent in every field . Upper caste just do copy and paste even in foreign countries , just look at the Indians abroad . Most of them indulge in cheating in foreign universities . Then they call themselves TALENTED . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
anupama maganur that's how it is it's always have been and will be just some of us otherwise we would be considered mediocre where in reality apart from this " some of us " every one is mediocre
Hey Varun... I watched the whole video because you guys are the real stars... Obviously India is into celebrity worship lekin hum jaise kuch kadardan bhi hai Jo ye pehle dekhte hai ki writer kaun hai ya director kaun hai before choosing which film to watch.
Finally writers on the table. Thanks Film Companion for the great content. People need to see every facet of the industry. Looking forward to more such videos.
I was waiting for this conversation the most and thank you so so soooo much Anupama mam for doing this! Just to add to their point, I always hear actors and producers saying "directors are the captain of the ship", "we need to empower writers more and all". I completely agree but rarely anyone realizes that writers are the GOD that created that world in which that ship floats and travels in. Jobs come from the fact that they wrote a movie so they do deserve a lot more respect than they are getting now. Definitely will appreciate so many writers a lot more now. Thank you Film Companion.
being respectful, and not taking names... i recently worked as an assistant director to "this" producer- director who whipped up screenplays with English dialogues and would want translations to those scripts so he could shoot them asap... one film he wrote a night back, he got his assistant to get a person to translate the whole script overnight, and the very next day they began shooting the film. he finished the shoot in just five nights. being a student of old school making where we would work on the script atleast six months minimum, here was a man who wanted to churn out films like instant noodles... i worked with him for just 2 months. i wonder how such people get financers... while people who have worked on scripts for atleast a year have difficulties getting their films made. here im still assisting since 2009 feeling i am still not prepared to make my own debut in direction, trying to grasp sensibilities of writing and direction... and here one finishes his film making course... and viola.. he is churning out instant noodles?? this is another reason i feel content even with scope is coming out without any sense.
Only in India people think assisting can help you in becoming a director. In today’s day and age there is no need to assist. Making your own short films is the only way to learn filmmaking. Hardly 2-3% of directors have been ADs anywhere else in the world. And, yes you are right that people who don’t deserve to direct make movies because when deserving people are busy working on their craft, they are making contacts and doing all kinds of hustling to deceive people with money.
Karan Johar himself is a threat to Indian Cinema. Since Kal Ho na Ho he has not done anything creative but copying, pasting and remaking of old movies and songs.
Karan Johar’s Dharma productions has been putting out great movies like kapoor and sons, lunchbox, etc. He directs very few movies like Ae dil, or Soty. And through these films he earns the money to reinvest in the content cinema mentioned above. He’s not a threat he’s trying. The fact that people only relate him to that kind of cinema is just lack of awareness.
vanshika pant Vanshika.. those 3 most famous songs of Ae Dil were remake of old black and white movies of Indian Cinema. you can check Asha Bhosle review on it. SOTY, Kapoor and Sons are good for eyes but there is nothing tht you can take out of theatre. There's nothing new in his movies. Actually.. they kno if the movie doesn't work they ll earn money from RUclips views. He is a show off thts it. A few movies are good like Lunch Box..and tht is how he should work. I hope you have seen movies from Drishyam Films.. Their movies may not be a blockbuster but they have the capacity to stay in your mind and that too for a long time.
Not just content, the way movies are directed should also be debated.. Even if content is silly, the director should be creative enough to execute it .. the movies are shittily directed where every thing is spoon fed to our dumb audiences...Big Directors like SLB, Karan Johar, Imtaiz Ali probably cannot direct a story which is written by someone else.. The audience is also dumb. I cannot blame the writers as I don't know what wonderful stories they may have written but they never saw the light of day because no one's willing to produce or direct it...
A story well written should also be well directed and U think a country like England,US even Korea can produce such great directors and writers but India with a polpulation of 1.3 billion cannot .There actors are casted accrding to the role wriiten and here roles are wriiten keeping in mind the actors.Thats the reason u will rarely find dynasties in Hollywood.
dynasties are everywhere. wherever there is business and a legacy to uphold there will be dynasties. but overall i agree with what u said about the casting . Sagar is also correct that this is a deep cultural issue . thats why it runs in a cycle .
Writers and Farmers both are on same level in india , provide the primary and crucial ingredient but both of them are not a matter of concern . This is so ridiculous . I always search for the name of writer and director at the end of the film also in the video songs lyrics writer . From all the four great writers over here I knew Varun grover and Himanshu Sharma , and a huge fan of both. Now get to know two more from now. #bringthechange
well that's just slapstick comedy .... & the requirement in the TV industry is actually slapstick or mediocre content that's why he once had the most viewed show on TV bcoz people unfortunately in india are not matured in terms of sense of humour that's what the truth is ..... Maybe kapil sharma is a good comedian & just bcoz for the sake of running his show on TV he's doing or maybe actually he is shitty, u can't tell......
Kshitij Birdi ya u're somewhere ri8 but my point was the only reason he still continues to do that bcoz people actually enjoy that shit in India... if we as a society refused to watch that show then probably we'll see much more progressive & funny content on TV no matter who's presenting it.....
India's literacy is 74%. Education is key to understanding cinema with content. Global exposition is necessary to understand complex human emotions. We can simply complain that movies lack content, but we have to be practical that content driven cinema is not accepted in our society because the ability to understand and empathize is not encouraged in our society. Reading literature is confined to arts students and the current youth are reading mythology books of Amish, Devdutta, and books of Chetan Bhagat and the plethora of soft-core porn, amir garib, ucch Dharm neech Dharm, Hindu muslim love stories set in IIMs IITs Corporates etc... Firstly let educate our children and encourage them to read literature and expose them to different types of people, with no prejudices.
I agree completely. But one place I differ is that the younger, mostly urban, educated youth may not be reading good literature, but their movie literacy is pretty high and that's a good thing and I think that has started a small but sure change in Indian cinema
Stephen Anna Marydas I think we are those youth and our movie literacy has improved because we get to see many world movies because of internet. I don't consider us as champions of Indian cinema. We always compare our cinema with world cinema and criticize it constantly. And that writer Himanshu is wrong that it was the same in 2015, 2014...and years before. Because of internet boom I am able to watch so many international series and so many good movies that Hindi cinema seems childish and gimmicky. 2017 was a disaster year for Hindi Cinema compared to years earlier. And it's not going to get better because even these writers on the current table are not that good compared to what's out there. It's cynical of me but that's the truth. These writers are good for the audiences who haven't consumed global entertainment because of language barriers. Take any picture from Best Picture 2018 Oscar nominations, which Indian writer can think of writing a movie like The Post, The Shape of water, Ladybird, etc. and which Indian director has a vision to direct such movies.. ? The last Indian movie with a vision was Lagaan (ofcourse some few more like RDB, Munnabhai, )... now none of the movies surprise you.. Not to discredit their work, they are very good but we need visionaries in writing, producing, directing and cinematography.
True. The writing in Bollywood isn't rigorous enough. For a nation that has created many literary giants like Tagore, Amitav Ghosh etc. its surprising our writing still lacks depth. And the very fact that people like you and many youngsters like you are breaking language barriers and finally started consuming good cinema and has created a market for better cinema in India. Yes, the movies these writers here have wrote arent cinematic genius that say "The Shape of the Water' or 'The Post'is, but Neerja, Piku and Vicky Donor etc are certainly strides in the right direction. The bar for a script being good in India is so low right now that these good movies seems to be brilliant ones to us. And as cinema literacy grow in India the bar keeps getting higher and higher. The very fact that producers like Ekta Kapoor and Karan Johar are atleast talking about empowering writers are signs of a better phase in Hindi cinema. I am a malayali and this crisis hit Malayalam industry in the 2000s. But the cinema literacy in Kerala has risen dramatically and since 2011 the general quality of Malayalam cinema has increased so much that the typical "Masala", "Paisa Vasool" sort of cinema has become a rareity and not a sure bet in Kerala market anymore. ALthough, they still cant match up to the Hollywood quality of writing things have begun to look up and people actually started going back to the Theatres. I think better days lies ahead for Hindi cinema as well.
Really it is a depressing story of bollywood which claims to be de facto ambassador of indian cinema in foreigns. Actually bollywood had no tradition of making quality films except Guru Dutt,Hrishikesh . We are such a huge society- multi faced society, so much warmth so much colour. But still 99% directors deal with extramarital affair, college love , unneccesary songs and dance. These directors must learn something from hollywood, bengali ,malayali and marathi cinemas. Upcoming writers like Varun, Juhi must be encouraged. Hope sanity prevails in Bollywood otherwise i dont want fo spend my times to watch all shit bolly craps.
Bollywood is a star driven industry. That's why they cast popular actors with shitty story in the movie and most of the idiotic audience make those movies Hit. Nowadays, relate able and content driven stories are need of the hour.
Really engaging conversation....varun is right lyricist ka naam bhi nahi likte google karna padta hai....writers are storytellers..."they make a world of difference" "make the world different " they dont deserve this oblivion and especially women in writing & technical field should be promoted & supported... Ps: even i m writing a script i want to work with dharma production😊😊 wish me luck💃💃😁🙌
I wanna ask one thing " when did one thing bollywood produce one good thing ?" Industry is almost completely dominated by Upper caste and they just copy & paste and this is prevalent in every field . Upper caste just do copy and paste even in foreign countries , just look at the Indians abroad . Most of them indulge in cheating in foreign universities . Then they call themselves TALENTED . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Saiwyn Quadras is so correct. This video has got 1888 views. I have always believed a movies stands on 4 pillars. Direction, Story/screenplay, Acting and Cinematography. So it makes writers a 25% share holder in a movie. However we as viewers have no exposure towards writers and their works. Its not a great sign. Story telling is a complex art . It needs a person to expose him/herself to so many situations in life. Writing a story is not easy, rather it takes all the juice out of you. Here we see writers are so much in pain, that this round table seems to be an operation table where 4 patients are telling what they are going thru to Anupama Ji . I can see pain in what they say. Great explanation without using abusive language. This defines what writers are going thru.
One of the best round tables so far! Loved every bit of it. They highlighted all the issues so aptly. And also I feel, it’s high time they get their due. Which fortunately is happening . I mean, I am the one who when likes a song, searches for the lyricist. ALWAYS!! Or when I like the movie, I search for the name of the writer. Not many people do that. And it’s about time these creative people get their due. And we need more of such round tables so that it reaches to the masses as an eye opener. Thank you Film companion. ❤️
This is one of the most interesting and engaging episodes I have seen in a long time, so many talented and creative minds together was simply a treat to watch. A big 👍🏻 to the writers.
Best round table talk. I think web series will surely surpass cinema in coming years. Writers are coming up with some amazing ideas in web, amazing scripts etc.
Arpit Bhatnagar really bro even I think now a days English Netflix contents are better made than Hollywood films. And the indian web contents or app contents are better than the Hindi cinema
Maybe... I mean I saw AltBalaji content which really sucks. Sacred Games is also somewhat overrated in my humble opinion. TVF makes decent content. But I don't think it can substitute cinema yet.
Plz web series me koi overrated star kids ko mat dalo Bas Kjo, salman and mahesh and others should be banned from doing web series Kjo already ruined Netflix india Wtf Give talented people a chance That's all
I wanna ask one thing " when did one thing bollywood produce one good thing ?" Industry is almost completely dominated by Upper caste and they just copy & paste and this is prevalent in every field . Upper caste just do copy and paste even in foreign countries , just look at the Indians abroad . Most of them indulge in cheating in foreign universities . Then they call themselves TALENTED . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
More writers and more such dialogues in 2022 please! We're in the writer's den with the OTT platforms and theaters going almost hand in hand for business. This deserves more discussions, rather a book!
This was a great adda Anupama ma'am . Loved hearing our writers talk about the industry and all . Thank you for this . One request if i may , Kindly do an adda with D.o.P's and Editors of our industry as well . We'd love to see how they see Cinema with their lens and scissors respectively :) . Thank you
I'd like to personally thank each of the writers for sharing their views and reassure them that there is at least one person out there that values their contribution and their struggle. This was a great episode.
the best episode so far - writers are superhuman beings: creatives that are extremely self-aware, self-critical, optimistic, witty, liberal-minded, full of integrity and still go on despite not getting their due. bring more writers please and discuss the craft as well.
I actually thought after reading the title that this video is gonna be booorrrinng.. But, it is, by far the best round table discussion I have ever seen ❤
karan Johar saying anything about quality of cinema and commenting is like Nepal commenting on quality of virat Kohli batting. Guy makes student of decade, kabhi khushi kabhi ghun, break ke baad, baar baar dekho and so many srk wastes
Thanks anupama mam.it's really interesting to see these kinds of conversations which actually go deep down to the roots for seeking the way to make better cinema.
Some of the issues that Varun Grover raised were quite pressing and legitimate ,especially in the end wherein he stresses about representation in the industry and also of the films which is highly skewed in favour of representing North Indian culture(read Punjabi) as well as also the background of actors who are mostly Punjabis, I am yet to cut across a film(not a documentary)which represents the adivasi culture not as a passing reference but as a full fledged theme of the film. The only film that did that was Manjhi and Newton but sadly enough it was an outsider's view. Moreover we need more people from varied backgrounds so that Bollywood becomes a space which is more true to the pan indian character as varied and as rich as our cultures and traditions are.
Varun is 100% right about the lyricists' names not being mentioned. I have seen this multiple times because every time I genuinely like a song, I always look at who's written it. And as for Saiwyn's concern about whether the views might determine if there is ever another writers' round table, I believe that our tribe - of writers and people who value good writing - may be small but it is certainly powerful. The fact is that bad writing being transformed into films will eventually be the death of a lucrative or even appreciated film industry. So the appreciation that seems lacking today, WILL eventually come your way if you're doing good work. Unfortunately, even being determined to do good work is an economic survival challenge in and of itself in our country. Victory, however, in my book, will ultimately belong to those who continue fighting the good fight. Thank you, Film Companion, for hosting a writers' RT. I would love to see something like this and hear the perspectives of technicians, editors, lyricists, or even the film crews who work behind the scenes - people we never see or hear of in the public eye.
This is one of the most depressing and nevertheless important ADDA i 've seen in quite a while.... Thanks Film Companion for showing the chalatant attitude of our creative industries through these writers whom i love and adore..
Thank you Film companion for showing us the view point of the content creators of some of the real good cinema of Bollywood. I truly believe now that they are the backbone of a good film and they truly deserve the recognition
Thank you Film Companion for doing this interview- it was by far one of the most interesting ones to watch. I really like how FC is trying to focus more on other aspects of film making besides just acting- from mentioning them prominently in reviews to interviewing producers, writers , music composers. These conversations are so much meatier and about the craft than the ones with hindi film actors. It really speaks to the passion and hard work that goes into creating a film instead of just spouting rehearsed and vague opinions. On a side note- huge fan of rahul desai and baradwaj rangan reviews. Thank you for bringing them on board :)
This is the best FC show. Writers, cinematographers, sound editors, and production designers deserve a lot more respect by the producers. Especially the writers, how can the industry survive without them.
What a great discussion. A topic that we rhe audience on a daily basis do not even talk about. I found myself on board with each one of you and feel honoured that m now in an era where such films are being made. So proud to have all of you in this industry.
Himanshu Sharma has only surface level sensibilities or intellect.... disappointed! Varun Grover ruled the discussion with with poignant assessment and state of the industry!
Please, please do more of these, Film Companion! I agree that we don't know enough about writers in Bollywood, about their process, about their hard work, but I (and I'm sure many others) want to learn more and this is such a great platform for spreading awareness!
Masaan and Piku are cults!! The films without a big named hero and loud songs and all that benchmark Bollywood stuff !! Just unbelievably good stories and brilliantly executed films✌🏻 I mean i still can't get over these films!! Masaan has been in my phone from last 2.5 years!!
These people are so intelligent, every line just gave me new points to ponder about. It's an irony people like Karan Johar talk about scripts being bad, I haven't seen a single movie of his with even a fair script. Why didn't he produce or direct say a Masaan or an Ankhon Dekhi then?
It's so true that culturally we don't value writers. Also as Manav Kaul in Rajeev Sir's breakouts round table said that, we as a society don't appreciate any artist. It starts so minutely yet has a lifelong impact at how you as a person view any art form! Thanks a lot Ma'am for this round table. And maybe if we begin interviewing the writers and directors before the release of a film, things might change very soon.
every story of writer touches my heart..I love the song 'Beparwah' by shellee. it was lill difficult to find him, who knows his work??? this is totally injustice to them. who can denied the the great work of IRSHAD kamil, Gulzar Jee???
thank you for bringing them together, it is one of the best addas ever!! i wish it was longer specially for varun grover, i could listen to his stories for hours!
I don't know about others. But I think after Piku... Juhi chaturvedi widely recognized in the audience!!!!! Even after the success of Piku... She interviewed by many leading daily news paper!!!!Out of 4 these people.... Before the round table I knew her and her work!!!!!Also another widely recognized writer is Abhijat joshi(Munna bhai series, 3 idiots, Pk... all Raj kumar hirani film). To get recognization... It's also depend upon the Director-Writer combo like Shoojit sircar-Juhi chaturvedi and Rajkumar hirani-Abhijag joshi!!!!!
All writers, lyricists should make and maintain their personal websites and update the list of their works there. Sometimes you hear a song with good lyrics and are unable to find the lyricist even after searching. This way, at least the public will be more aware, even if the music companies don't give credit to all the artists involved.
First just to put up a round table of writers i appreciate you Anupama. It is a long road but only with these small steps towards realising the problems inherent in the film industry and then bringing them forth infront of everyone will help us reach the solution. And i completely agree that this star system is what ruins most of our films as majority of the so called stars here are below average actors. There is so much that needs to change but kudos to you for lighting the spark. Always looking forward to your roundtables. Keep up the good work.
Heaps better than the actors, actresses, directors round table... Sensible and pertinent discussion that goes beyond the economics of film making. I wish the level of self awareness this group demonstrated about their own shortcomings and limitations and the way they owned up to it is emulated by the "stars" as well...
Thank you for arranging this. I remember here in England in the 1970's, my father taking me to watch great Indian films in the cinema's like Do Raaste, Do Badan, Sangam, Saathi, Haathi Mere Saathi, Kunwaara Baap. It was called a cinematic experience.These days there is no intensity in films, Look at Dhoom 3 with the double role of Aamir Khan. A brilliant filmn but sadly the relationship between the brothers was just not intense enough, lacking dialogue, superficial conflict. Lots of other films are exactly the same where a human relationship is not explored deeply enough, the rest are just based on lust which is not love.India needs to go back and watch films like Do Raaste, for the dialogue, to study facial expressions, the anger, the intensity, the tragedy, the empathy, the hatred the sympathy, the lost love. Please also slow the whole experience of film making right down, its running too fast a pace, almost as though the audience is dumb to keep up with emotions and their understanding....
Start giving chance to New comers instead of sticking to old writers who are giving crap. Learn from Marathi n south industry. I can write, have many stories but how it can reach proper person. No option.
Aamir Khan There are old writers out there who often come up with content that we all youngster relate to. I feel that a persons age has nothing to do with creativity
I knew Mr. Grover as standup comedian only 1 day back and today came to knew he is writer/lyricist....And seeing/knowing rest of them for first time..somewhere feeling something i am also wrong coz I liked all the films they wrote but didnt bother to knew writers name...
An outstanding, candid interview! Varun Grover is awesome! Glad that there is some recognition for female writers in an intensely, shamelessly male industry
People dont realize writing is a craft learned like any other; I am always surprised at the lack of writing classes at university level in India; I have never heard of anyone in India taking a creative writing class; In fact not sure they are offered at too many places. If you don't teach people to write, suddenly you are not going to have a horde of talented writers standing at the door to film industry.
This was an absolute joy. It took us inside the psyche and emotions of some of the best writers in the Indian movie industry. Thank you AC for giving them this platform.
“Ram is a greater hero than Valmiki.” Wow, Varun Grover. This line sums up the whole conversation. The finest round table conversation ever. Thanks, Film Companion. ❤️
Thanks for watching Gargy. :D
hey Gargy... being a Pakistani and from a muslim background I couldnt understand Varun Grover's reference of Ram being a greater hero than Valmiki. If you dont mind can u kindly explain the roles of valmiki and Ram he was talking abt...
usman arif
Pakistan ke log ye bhi dekhte hai kya..aur fawad khan Kidhar gya ...no news at all.
usman arif Hey Usman, Valmiki was an ancient Indian poet who had written the ‘Ramayana’, the story of Lord Ram. So what Varun meant was, not giving the due to the writers is an age old cultural issue. And this disparity is still prevalent today. Hope I was able to answer your doubt. 😊
@Gargy... Thanks Gargy..yeah i got your point.
KJo says he doesn't find great scripts from other writers but promptly announces a sequel to Student of the Year. What irony!
Has to make money somehow to keep his production afloat right? Most producers tend to do one film for money and one for the soul. Hope he does the same too lol. Would be amazing if he did.
KJo directs only the stories he has written. The scripts that he reads are for Dharma Productions and the directors that he has employed in that company.
Well then I thought of film making as an art .There is a beauty to it and not money.
MBAs run the production industry not artists.
You talk about Student but Dharma has a great collection of films like kapoor and sons, lunchbox, etc. It’s unfair to say that about kjo bc he knows how to make money through a certain type of films and invest the money earned in some content driven cinema as well.
I feel he is great at the job he does.
wait varun has written the lyrics of moh moh k dhage....
Oh god fabulous song....
all whole time I was praising papon..
Yaa....He won National Award for that
Rahul Malik and udta punjab from the film udta punjab.
Udta Punjab
Bhai Papan da ne likha hai isne to kuch bhi bol diya🙂💔
More writers round tables pls. They’re phenomenal.
Unfortunately they don't get the recognition they deserve
Yes they are
Varun Grover & Juhi Chaturvedi are absolutely honest and unbiased. I particularly loved what Varun said about award shows 👏
Film companion single handedly trying to save Bollywood! Hats off! 🔝
What A Great Comment
Seriously😂
Cheta bagat you rock
Nothing to save
😂😂😂😂😂😂
So happy to finally see WRITERS. Yay. Tnx anupama
I liked everything Varun said, especially that we value Ramayan more than Valmiki.
What Ever
Sorry, as unfair as it may seem, story is always greater than storyteller. :)
ram is a fictional character and Brahmin lololoool. even though its stupid .
I wanna ask one thing " when did one thing bollywood produce one good thing ?" Industry is almost completely dominated by Upper caste and they just copy & paste and this is prevalent in every field . Upper caste just do copy and paste even in foreign countries , just look at the Indians abroad . Most of them indulge in cheating in foreign
universities . Then they call themselves TALENTED . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
+s a you are a foreigner then why are you commenting on Indiaan page ? dont you have any work to do in your own country ? Dont try to put your nose in others matters .
Groot Official Just like Allah and Jesus or should we say the whole concept of God is based on fiction.
If Hindi Film Industry ever achieves the level of excellence that audience desire (at least some of them), the contribution of critics like Anupama Chopra and Rajeev Masand will be remembered. It feels great to see that finally someone is asking more relevant questions in an interview than "Apni Khoobsurti/fitness ka raaz bataiye?"
Yes🙏🙏
And if you want more relevant questions then watch Rajya Sabha tv interview where Mr Irfaan asks about the craft itself and allows others to speak. He LISTENS very carefully which is very rare in our media.
@@shubhranshubasistha9002 Yes, I have listened his interviews as well. He is an exceptional interviewer.
U supporting someone who writes blind articles. Really....
@@binuvs3924 This is a 2 year old tweet. I didn't know about the existence of blind articles in Bollywood at that time as I myself don't read this kind of stuff. My comment was based on the interviews taken by these critics.
Am I the only one who really appreciated Raanjhana? The stalker aspect was bad, but I felt that it was a very accurate description of the scenery of a small town. Wonderfully written.
Yeah I do think so ur only one I guess!😉
Yes! The dialogue in Ranjhanaa were brilliant! Dhanush's monologue in the end was so beautiful.
No you're not the only one. I have watched and enjoyed each and every characters portrayed in this movie.
Ha saalo padhai karo, bus,train iPhone aur chokari ke piche mat bhagna
I agree with you. The good thing was that they did not justified the characters' actions with a happy ending. Everyone had to suffer the consequences of their actions.
When I heard Moh Moh ke Dhaage, I had to do a bit of research to find out who the lyricist was. Then there was this awesome film Masan! I knew who the director was, but did not know the lyricist of Moh was the writer of that brilliant piece of cinema. And then, I was thrilled to discover he is also the same guy who made a fabulous standup comic act on Padmavaat! Varun Grover is someone am currently in love with! Have a gigantic crush on him! For his capacity to cerebrate!
bey wo koi gana hai benjo
Abey wo koi gana hai benjo
Varun grover.😍😍
Love him, I disagree with him on many issues, but still love him, this man is gem
Rahul Kumar true ..😊
Rahul Kumar like what issues?
What issues? means you want to know about the issues with which I disagree him on it
Yup I wonder if those are as same as mine
Film Companion, please do a video with just Anupama and Varun talking about films, writing and scripts. I could listen to this guy talk in his dark, sarcastic but profound tone all day.
Noted! But check out our site Anshul. We've done a lot of pieces with Varun. www.filmcompanion.in
Film Companion Alright... Lovely website though
09:38 subtly hinting to chetan bhagat 😂😂 got to love varun grover.. Kam shabdon me bhi boht kuch keh deta hai ye banda 😍
pankaj B lol true 😬
😂
Sabko bas 2 word aa gaye hai banda aur bandi,
Ladka ya aadmi kaha gaya, hindi me kaha banda a at a hai mughalo ki santano?
Banda aapki khidmad me hazir hai
true that crap writer
Jay Panjari sab aajkal 'word' bol rahe hai,
'Shabd' ya 'bol' kaha gaya, hindi me kaha 'word' ata hai angrezo ki saltano?
Eg: letters in a word
.. You get the point? Na english angrezo ki jaagir hai, na urdu mughlo ki.. Ram prasad Bismil jitne urdu ke the, javed akhtr utne hi hindi k hai. :) jo chahe use kar lo.. Cheers!
Varun Grover \m/
So glad that somebody finally did a writer's table. They are the people with actual content.
Please please bring them back. I'm extremely curious on their individual process and also their journey to dream to become a screenwriter. As a film student it would be extremely educational.
Varun Grover is one of my favorite writer. I often RUclips his name and watch his videos 💕
Some of us DO know all your names if not recognize faces :-) but yes there are times when I watch a song on RUclips n I keep searching who wrote it 🙆
I wanna ask one thing " when did one thing bollywood produce one good thing ?" Industry is almost completely dominated by Upper caste and they just copy & paste and this is prevalent in every field . Upper caste just do copy and paste even in foreign countries , just look at the Indians abroad . Most of them indulge in cheating in foreign
universities . Then they call themselves TALENTED . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
anupama maganur that's how it is it's always have been and will be just some of us otherwise we would be considered mediocre where in reality apart from this " some of us " every one is mediocre
anupama maganur yeah me too but most of the time don't find writer name
Hey Varun... I watched the whole video because you guys are the real stars... Obviously India is into celebrity worship lekin hum jaise kuch kadardan bhi hai Jo ye pehle dekhte hai ki writer kaun hai ya director kaun hai before choosing which film to watch.
Finally writers on the table. Thanks Film Companion for the great content. People need to see every facet of the industry. Looking forward to more such videos.
We are not seeing you guys for the first time sir... India is changing... And you people rock!!!
Unfortunately I am lol except for maybe the guy on the left.. he looks familiar.
Mr Grover:
9:15
28:18
34:56
43:36
Your welcome
He really talks sense
I was waiting for this conversation the most and thank you so so soooo much Anupama mam for doing this! Just to add to their point, I always hear actors and producers saying "directors are the captain of the ship", "we need to empower writers more and all". I completely agree but rarely anyone realizes that writers are the GOD that created that world in which that ship floats and travels in. Jobs come from the fact that they wrote a movie so they do deserve a lot more respect than they are getting now. Definitely will appreciate so many writers a lot more now. Thank you Film Companion.
Varun griver nailed it ."Writing culture" is not our education system.Everyone is after Physics and Maths
Thanks for watching!
Ankush Algudkar h
being respectful, and not taking names... i recently worked as an assistant director to "this" producer- director who whipped up screenplays with English dialogues and would want translations to those scripts so he could shoot them asap... one film he wrote a night back, he got his assistant to get a person to translate the whole script overnight, and the very next day they began shooting the film. he finished the shoot in just five nights. being a student of old school making where we would work on the script atleast six months minimum, here was a man who wanted to churn out films like instant noodles... i worked with him for just 2 months. i wonder how such people get financers... while people who have worked on scripts for atleast a year have difficulties getting their films made. here im still assisting since 2009 feeling i am still not prepared to make my own debut in direction, trying to grasp sensibilities of writing and direction... and here one finishes his film making course... and viola.. he is churning out instant noodles?? this is another reason i feel content even with scope is coming out without any sense.
Only in India people think assisting can help you in becoming a director. In today’s day and age there is no need to assist. Making your own short films is the only way to learn filmmaking. Hardly 2-3% of directors have been ADs anywhere else in the world. And, yes you are right that people who don’t deserve to direct make movies because when deserving people are busy working on their craft, they are making contacts and doing all kinds of hustling to deceive people with money.
Quite sure this is RGV.
Must be RGV. Only he shot an actual feature length film in just five days.
Hello maam
How to find work as an AD for somebody who hasn't gone to film school. Kindly help me.
Karan Johar himself is a threat to Indian Cinema. Since Kal Ho na Ho he has not done anything creative but copying, pasting and remaking of old movies and songs.
Karan Johar’s Dharma productions has been putting out great movies like kapoor and sons, lunchbox, etc. He directs very few movies like Ae dil, or Soty. And through these films he earns the money to reinvest in the content cinema mentioned above. He’s not a threat he’s trying. The fact that people only relate him to that kind of cinema is just lack of awareness.
guddujunky He may not be a great director, but his production house has given the audience some amazing stories.
Karan Johar should never direct another movie. All his movies are terrible, regressive and stupid. He probably should stick to producing.
guddujunky what else can you expect from a gay guy.
vanshika pant Vanshika.. those 3 most famous songs of Ae Dil were remake of old black and white movies of Indian Cinema. you can check Asha Bhosle review on it. SOTY, Kapoor and Sons are good for eyes but there is nothing tht you can take out of theatre. There's nothing new in his movies. Actually.. they kno if the movie doesn't work they ll earn money from RUclips views. He is a show off thts it. A few movies are good like Lunch Box..and tht is how he should work. I hope you have seen movies from Drishyam Films.. Their movies may not be a blockbuster but they have the capacity to stay in your mind and that too for a long time.
Not just content, the way movies are directed should also be debated.. Even if content is silly, the director should be creative enough to execute it .. the movies are shittily directed where every thing is spoon fed to our dumb audiences...Big Directors like SLB, Karan Johar, Imtaiz Ali probably cannot direct a story which is written by someone else.. The audience is also dumb.
I cannot blame the writers as I don't know what wonderful stories they may have written but they never saw the light of day because no one's willing to produce or direct it...
A story well written should also be well directed and U think a country like England,US even Korea can produce such great directors and writers but India with a polpulation of 1.3 billion cannot .There actors are casted accrding to the role wriiten and here roles are wriiten keeping in mind the actors.Thats the reason u will rarely find dynasties in Hollywood.
dynasties are everywhere. wherever there is business and a legacy to uphold there will be dynasties.
but overall i agree with what u said about the casting . Sagar is also correct that this is a deep cultural issue . thats why it runs in a cycle .
In hollywood how many film dynasties are there?I can remember only one
BTW if anyone watches the above video fully, he/she will understand what the real problem is?
Not everywhere filmaking and acting is an art not some business or political idealogue that someone needs to uphold it
Varun Grover is multi-talented! Lyrics, story, stand-up.... 🙌🏻
Writers and Farmers both are on same level in india , provide the primary and crucial ingredient but both of them are not a matter of concern . This is so ridiculous .
I always search for the name of writer and director at the end of the film also in the video songs lyrics writer . From all the four great writers over here I knew Varun grover and Himanshu Sharma , and a huge fan of both.
Now get to know two more from now.
#bringthechange
Varun Grover is a multi talented person.Great lyricist and stand up as well.Much better than Kapil Sharma.
DC 1810 Bhai kaha isko Kapil se compare krre ho
Ye toh coca cola ko Pepsi se compare krne waali baat hogyi
Poora comment accha Laga but last me wahi chutiyap comparison analogy.
well that's just slapstick comedy .... & the requirement in the TV industry is actually slapstick or mediocre content that's why he once had the most viewed show on TV bcoz people unfortunately in india are not matured in terms of sense of humour that's what the truth is ..... Maybe kapil sharma is a good comedian & just bcoz for the sake of running his show on TV he's doing or maybe actually he is shitty, u can't tell......
Kshitij Birdi ya u're somewhere ri8 but my point was the only reason he still continues to do that bcoz people actually enjoy that shit in India... if we as a society refused to watch that show then probably we'll see much more progressive & funny content on TV no matter who's presenting it.....
Dumbest comparison ever 🤦♀️
Thank you Anpama for inviting these writers. The conversation does really make sense unlike many stars' stupid words.
Captivating! I can listen to Juhi Chaturvedi talk for weeks!
India's literacy is 74%.
Education is key to understanding cinema with content.
Global exposition is necessary to understand complex human emotions.
We can simply complain that movies lack content, but we have to be practical that content driven cinema is not accepted in our society because the ability to understand and empathize is not encouraged in our society. Reading literature is confined to arts students and the current youth are reading mythology books of Amish, Devdutta, and books of Chetan Bhagat and the plethora of soft-core porn, amir garib, ucch Dharm neech Dharm, Hindu muslim love stories set in IIMs IITs Corporates etc...
Firstly let educate our children and encourage them to read literature and expose them to different types of people, with no prejudices.
I agree completely. But one place I differ is that the younger, mostly urban, educated youth may not be reading good literature, but their movie literacy is pretty high and that's a good thing and I think that has started a small but sure change in Indian cinema
Stephen Anna Marydas I think we are those youth and our movie literacy has improved because we get to see many world movies because of internet. I don't consider us as champions of Indian cinema. We always compare our cinema with world cinema and criticize it constantly. And that writer Himanshu is wrong that it was the same in 2015, 2014...and years before. Because of internet boom I am able to watch so many international series and so many good movies that Hindi cinema seems childish and gimmicky. 2017 was a disaster year for Hindi Cinema compared to years earlier. And it's not going to get better because even these writers on the current table are not that good compared to what's out there. It's cynical of me but that's the truth. These writers are good for the audiences who haven't consumed global entertainment because of language barriers. Take any picture from Best Picture 2018 Oscar nominations, which Indian writer can think of writing a movie like The Post, The Shape of water, Ladybird, etc. and which Indian director has a vision to direct such movies.. ?
The last Indian movie with a vision was Lagaan (ofcourse some few more like RDB, Munnabhai, )... now none of the movies surprise you.. Not to discredit their work, they are very good but we need visionaries in writing, producing, directing and cinematography.
True. The writing in Bollywood isn't rigorous enough. For a nation that has created many literary giants like Tagore, Amitav Ghosh etc. its surprising our writing still lacks depth. And the very fact that people like you and many youngsters like you are breaking language barriers and finally started consuming good cinema and has created a market for better cinema in India. Yes, the movies these writers here have wrote arent cinematic genius that say "The Shape of the Water' or 'The Post'is, but Neerja, Piku and Vicky Donor etc are certainly strides in the right direction. The bar for a script being good in India is so low right now that these good movies seems to be brilliant ones to us. And as cinema literacy grow in India the bar keeps getting higher and higher. The very fact that producers like Ekta Kapoor and Karan Johar are atleast talking about empowering writers are signs of a better phase in Hindi cinema.
I am a malayali and this crisis hit Malayalam industry in the 2000s. But the cinema literacy in Kerala has risen dramatically and since 2011 the general quality of Malayalam cinema has increased so much that the typical "Masala", "Paisa Vasool" sort of cinema has become a rareity and not a sure bet in Kerala market anymore. ALthough, they still cant match up to the Hollywood quality of writing things have begun to look up and people actually started going back to the Theatres. I think better days lies ahead for Hindi cinema as well.
exactly, our audience are evolving. I guess it will take another 20 yrs to accept all kinds of films
Really it is a depressing story of bollywood which claims to be de facto ambassador of indian cinema in foreigns. Actually bollywood had no tradition of making quality films except Guru Dutt,Hrishikesh . We are such a huge society- multi faced society, so much warmth so much colour. But still 99% directors deal with extramarital affair, college love , unneccesary songs and dance. These directors must learn something from hollywood, bengali ,malayali and marathi cinemas. Upcoming writers like Varun, Juhi must be encouraged. Hope sanity prevails in Bollywood otherwise i dont want fo spend my times to watch all shit bolly craps.
Must watch interview for film lovers, creative minds
Bollywood is a star driven industry. That's why they cast popular actors with shitty story in the movie and most of the idiotic audience make those movies Hit. Nowadays, relate able and content driven stories are need of the hour.
Yeahhh
One of the best interview at film companion. Great Anu mam . This interview with writers should be a long term thing.
There aren't that many true writers in Bollywood to have that many roundtables, hahaha.
It was such a pleasure to watch and hear writers' perspective. Something which is so rare. Thank you Anupama and team. You guys doing a great job!
film companion D.O.P's in the next adda please... Varun Grover jeet gae tum. Also love the clarity with which Juhi Chaturvedi addressed each question.
Really engaging conversation....varun is right lyricist ka naam bhi nahi likte google karna padta hai....writers are storytellers..."they make a world of difference" "make the world different " they dont deserve this oblivion and especially women in writing & technical field should be promoted & supported...
Ps: even i m writing a script i want to work with dharma production😊😊 wish me luck💃💃😁🙌
priya pandey tune sab sahi likha, sab kuch impressive tha but last me p.s. k Naam pe tune apna maksad bta diya jyada gyaani banne ka.😂😂😂
manu rathore arey yaar to put in out in the universe....to attract good vibes😊 i dont mind do u?😝😅
I wanna ask one thing " when did one thing bollywood produce one good thing ?" Industry is almost completely dominated by Upper caste and they just copy & paste and this is prevalent in every field . Upper caste just do copy and paste even in foreign countries , just look at the Indians abroad . Most of them indulge in cheating in foreign
universities . Then they call themselves TALENTED . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Are you from production crew, I just saw your name their?
Scratchy Singh noooo😅
Saiwyn Quadras is so correct. This video has got 1888 views. I have always believed a movies stands on 4 pillars. Direction, Story/screenplay, Acting and Cinematography. So it makes writers a 25% share holder in a movie. However we as viewers have no exposure towards writers and their works. Its not a great sign. Story telling is a complex art . It needs a person to expose him/herself to so many situations in life. Writing a story is not easy, rather it takes all the juice out of you. Here we see writers are so much in pain, that this round table seems to be an operation table where 4 patients are telling what they are going thru to Anupama Ji . I can see pain in what they say. Great explanation without using abusive language. This defines what writers are going thru.
Dude you probably counted views like a few hours after it released, it has like 90 thousand views now
Pallavi Sharma ya true... but still way too less
Maybe read a book. Books are great, cheap and an efficient way of being entertained rather than watching a movie play in front of you in cinema.
One of the best round tables so far! Loved every bit of it. They highlighted all the issues so aptly. And also I feel, it’s high time they get their due. Which fortunately is happening . I mean, I am the one who when likes a song, searches for the lyricist. ALWAYS!! Or when I like the movie, I search for the name of the writer. Not many people do that. And it’s about time these creative people get their due. And we need more of such round tables so that it reaches to the masses as an eye opener. Thank you Film companion. ❤️
This is one of the most interesting and engaging episodes I have seen in a long time, so many talented and creative minds together was simply a treat to watch. A big 👍🏻 to the writers.
LOVED THIS INTERVIEW! And I'm so happy someone is doing a round table with the writers of our industry!
Damn you can almost feel the pain when they just asking for some recognition and respect.
This is the best group of ppl adda...like in every discussion i somehow get irritated by someone but here each and everyone is so genuine nd good
Best round table talk. I think web series will surely surpass cinema in coming years. Writers are coming up with some amazing ideas in web, amazing scripts etc.
Arpit Bhatnagar really bro
even I think now a days English Netflix contents are better made than Hollywood films.
And the indian web contents or app contents are better than the Hindi cinema
Maybe... I mean I saw AltBalaji content which really sucks. Sacred Games is also somewhat overrated in my humble opinion. TVF makes decent content. But I don't think it can substitute cinema yet.
😊yup
Plz web series me koi overrated star kids ko mat dalo
Bas
Kjo, salman and mahesh and others should be banned from doing web series
Kjo already ruined Netflix india
Wtf
Give talented people a chance
That's all
15:46 - 250 rupaye jo kharch rha hai , goli na maarde woh.. ROFL
Ck Khamari This was for Kjo 😂😂
I wanna ask one thing " when did one thing bollywood produce one good thing ?" Industry is almost completely dominated by Upper caste and they just copy & paste and this is prevalent in every field . Upper caste just do copy and paste even in foreign countries , just look at the Indians abroad . Most of them indulge in cheating in foreign
universities . Then they call themselves TALENTED . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
More writers and more such dialogues in 2022 please! We're in the writer's den with the OTT platforms and theaters going almost hand in hand for business. This deserves more discussions, rather a book!
Varun Grover :)
14:55 onwards....what Mr Himanshu is saying defines today's hindi film audience.
This was a great adda Anupama ma'am . Loved hearing our writers talk about the industry and all . Thank you for this . One request if i may , Kindly do an adda with D.o.P's and Editors of our industry as well . We'd love to see how they see Cinema with their lens and scissors respectively :) . Thank you
Thanks for watching Abhay. Yes, we are planning a series with technicians. Stay tuned! :)
I'd like to personally thank each of the writers for sharing their views and reassure them that there is at least one person out there that values their contribution and their struggle. This was a great episode.
the best episode so far - writers are superhuman beings: creatives that are extremely self-aware, self-critical, optimistic, witty, liberal-minded, full of integrity and still go on despite not getting their due. bring more writers please and discuss the craft as well.
I actually thought after reading the title that this video is gonna be booorrrinng.. But, it is, by far the best round table discussion I have ever seen ❤
just loved the interview especially JUHI CHATURVEDI
we need more roundtables of WRITERS ~DIRECTORS ~EDITORS~CINEMATOGRAPHERS.
I am simple man. I see a good story. I like it.
karan Johar saying anything about quality of cinema and commenting is like Nepal commenting on quality of virat Kohli batting. Guy makes student of decade, kabhi khushi kabhi ghun, break ke baad, baar baar dekho and so many srk wastes
Himanshu Gupta Half of these movies weren’t his products.
We are consumers here..Parmanu, newton, Masaan, etc earn only chillars on box office when compared to tatti movies like race 3, tubelight, etc
Thanks anupama mam.it's really interesting to see these kinds of conversations which actually go deep down to the roots for seeking the way to make better cinema.
This was THE BEST adda ever!!! High time the real heroes of a story get validated and respected in every sense in our film industry. Thank you FC!
We as audience don't deserve a good film bcoz hum log chutiye jaisi movie dekhne jaate hain aur achi story content wali movie online dekh lete hain
bilkul shi bola bhai lekin badlaav lara Hu mai at least apne ander. Proudly bol skta Hu Phantom Thread dekhkr aaya Hu aaj teesri baar
great to finally see the writers on this show.. this may be the saddest episode of this series but probably the most important one.!!!
Some of the issues that Varun Grover raised were quite pressing and legitimate ,especially in the end wherein he stresses about representation in the industry and also of the films which is highly skewed in favour of representing North Indian culture(read Punjabi) as well as also the background of actors who are mostly Punjabis, I am yet to cut across a film(not a documentary)which represents the adivasi culture not as a passing reference but as a full fledged theme of the film. The only film that did that was Manjhi and Newton but sadly enough it was an outsider's view. Moreover we need more people from varied backgrounds so that Bollywood becomes a space which is more true to the pan indian character as varied and as rich as our cultures and traditions are.
Varun is 100% right about the lyricists' names not being mentioned. I have seen this multiple times because every time I genuinely like a song, I always look at who's written it. And as for Saiwyn's concern about whether the views might determine if there is ever another writers' round table, I believe that our tribe - of writers and people who value good writing - may be small but it is certainly powerful. The fact is that bad writing being transformed into films will eventually be the death of a lucrative or even appreciated film industry. So the appreciation that seems lacking today, WILL eventually come your way if you're doing good work. Unfortunately, even being determined to do good work is an economic survival challenge in and of itself in our country. Victory, however, in my book, will ultimately belong to those who continue fighting the good fight. Thank you, Film Companion, for hosting a writers' RT. I would love to see something like this and hear the perspectives of technicians, editors, lyricists, or even the film crews who work behind the scenes - people we never see or hear of in the public eye.
This is one of the most depressing and nevertheless important ADDA i 've seen in quite a while....
Thanks Film Companion for showing the chalatant attitude of our creative industries through these writers whom i love and adore..
Just love when Varun starts his philosophical flow that is so logical .. Gold !!! Can listen to him for hours !!
Thank you Film companion for showing us the view point of the content creators of some of the real good cinema of Bollywood. I truly believe now that they are the backbone of a good film and they truly deserve the recognition
U idiot hypocrisy women will u stop fucking Bollywood, dude ur Hindi movies sucks only Telugu Tamil Rocks #saalmanjika
Mahesh I absolutely stand by what I said n sorry but there isn’t any hypocrisy involved
Saalmanjika Jaiswal yesss u ppl very well know that South films are 100 times better than Bollywood and again u ppl are showing ur hypocrisy towards
Mahesh dude can u even make sense of what u are saying.. enough of wasting my time replying to u. M done
Saalmanjika Jaiswal yeah Me too iam not gonna reply anymore, u hypocrisy women!!
Thank you Film Companion for doing this interview- it was by far one of the most interesting ones to watch. I really like how FC is trying to focus more on other aspects of film making besides just acting- from mentioning them prominently in reviews to interviewing producers, writers , music composers. These conversations are so much meatier and about the craft than the ones with hindi film actors. It really speaks to the passion and hard work that goes into creating a film instead of just spouting rehearsed and vague opinions. On a side note- huge fan of rahul desai and baradwaj rangan reviews. Thank you for bringing them on board :)
I liked it so badly I wish there was a bloopers as well and a part2
My heart ached hearing that writers are treated so poorly...Mene Kabhi khud b nhi socha tha...u could hear the pain in their voices😔👏
9:07 Karan johar : I read the scripts and I am traumatized
Varun Grover's epic expressions.
Seriously kjo is a ballsack
This is the best FC show. Writers, cinematographers, sound editors, and production designers deserve a lot more respect by the producers. Especially the writers, how can the industry survive without them.
"Salman shows up, gets an award" well played XD
What a great discussion. A topic that we rhe audience on a daily basis do not even talk about. I found myself on board with each one of you and feel honoured that m now in an era where such films are being made. So proud to have all of you in this industry.
Himanshu Sharma has only surface level sensibilities or intellect.... disappointed! Varun Grover ruled the discussion with with poignant assessment and state of the industry!
Please, please do more of these, Film Companion! I agree that we don't know enough about writers in Bollywood, about their process, about their hard work, but I (and I'm sure many others) want to learn more and this is such a great platform for spreading awareness!
You could hear how emotional Varun is about the dignity of writers in his voice. It's pretty sad.
Masaan and Piku are cults!!
The films without a big named hero and loud songs and all that benchmark Bollywood stuff !!
Just unbelievably good stories and brilliantly executed films✌🏻
I mean i still can't get over these films!!
Masaan has been in my phone from last 2.5 years!!
The problem is calling it content.
You simply need better story tellers
The industry has hired too many marketing graduates to dictate terms
Thank you Anupama Chopra for giving a voice to the writers. This has been long overdue. I love your coverage of Hindu Cinema from 360° angle.
These people are so intelligent, every line just gave me new points to ponder about. It's an irony people like Karan Johar talk about scripts being bad, I haven't seen a single movie of his with even a fair script. Why didn't he produce or direct say a Masaan or an Ankhon Dekhi then?
He was busy producing that bullshit ADHM. Oh yeah and directing it also.
It's so true that culturally we don't value writers. Also as Manav Kaul in Rajeev Sir's breakouts round table said that, we as a society don't appreciate any artist. It starts so minutely yet has a lifelong impact at how you as a person view any art form! Thanks a lot Ma'am for this round table. And maybe if we begin interviewing the writers and directors before the release of a film, things might change very soon.
every story of writer touches my heart..I love the song 'Beparwah' by shellee. it was lill difficult to find him, who knows his work??? this is totally injustice to them. who can denied the the great work of IRSHAD kamil, Gulzar Jee???
thank you for bringing them together, it is one of the best addas ever!!
i wish it was longer specially for varun grover, i could listen to his stories for hours!
I don't know about others. But I think after Piku... Juhi chaturvedi widely recognized in the audience!!!!! Even after the success of Piku... She interviewed by many leading daily news paper!!!!Out of 4 these people.... Before the round table I knew her and her work!!!!!Also another widely recognized writer is Abhijat joshi(Munna bhai series, 3 idiots, Pk... all Raj kumar hirani film). To get recognization... It's also depend upon the Director-Writer combo like Shoojit sircar-Juhi chaturvedi and Rajkumar hirani-Abhijag joshi!!!!!
I've never seen these people.
Thank you Film Companion for bringing Professor Snape to the panel 4:07
All writers, lyricists should make and maintain their personal websites and update the list of their works there. Sometimes you hear a song with good lyrics and are unable to find the lyricist even after searching.
This way, at least the public will be more aware, even if the music companies don't give credit to all the artists involved.
First just to put up a round table of writers i appreciate you Anupama. It is a long road but only with these small steps towards realising the problems inherent in the film industry and then bringing them forth infront of everyone will help us reach the solution. And i completely agree that this star system is what ruins most of our films as majority of the so called stars here are below average actors. There is so much that needs to change but kudos to you for lighting the spark. Always looking forward to your roundtables. Keep up the good work.
thanq for this video Anupama jeee
Juhi is my favourite man. Vicky Donor. Piku. October. Loved all of them. Her collaboration with Soojit Sircar is undeniable wonderful.
Varun Grover is love
Varun Grover is life
Heaps better than the actors, actresses, directors round table... Sensible and pertinent discussion that goes beyond the economics of film making. I wish the level of self awareness this group demonstrated about their own shortcomings and limitations and the way they owned up to it is emulated by the "stars" as well...
Befikre ko 3.5 star dete ho phir content ka rona rote ho 😂😂
Thank you for arranging this. I remember here in England in the 1970's, my father taking me to watch great Indian films in the cinema's like Do Raaste, Do Badan, Sangam, Saathi, Haathi Mere Saathi, Kunwaara Baap. It was called a cinematic experience.These days there is no intensity in films, Look at Dhoom 3 with the double role of Aamir Khan. A brilliant filmn but sadly the relationship between the brothers was just not intense enough, lacking dialogue, superficial conflict. Lots of other films are exactly the same where a human relationship is not explored deeply enough, the rest are just based on lust which is not love.India needs to go back and watch films like Do Raaste, for the dialogue, to study facial expressions, the anger, the intensity, the tragedy, the empathy, the hatred the sympathy, the lost love. Please also slow the whole experience of film making right down, its running too fast a pace, almost as though the audience is dumb to keep up with emotions and their understanding....
This conversation is gold !!
yay!
Bas dil behlate raho, kuch nai hone wale
, 3 star comment
Huge fan of Juhi Chaturvedi mam...Piku was such a laughter n emotional ride out of a simple story....
Start giving chance to New comers instead of sticking to old writers who are giving crap. Learn from Marathi n south industry. I can write, have many stories but how it can reach proper person. No option.
Aamir Khan There are old writers out there who often come up with content that we all youngster relate to. I feel that a persons age has nothing to do with creativity
I knew Mr. Grover as standup comedian only 1 day back and today came to knew he is writer/lyricist....And seeing/knowing rest of them for first time..somewhere feeling something i am also wrong coz I liked all the films they wrote but didnt bother to knew writers name...
love varun grover
An outstanding, candid interview! Varun Grover is awesome! Glad that there is some recognition for female writers in an intensely, shamelessly male industry
People dont realize writing is a craft learned like any other; I am always surprised at the lack of writing classes at university level in India; I have never heard of anyone in India taking a creative writing class; In fact not sure they are offered at too many places. If you don't teach people to write, suddenly you are not going to have a horde of talented writers standing at the door to film industry.
This was an absolute joy. It took us inside the psyche and emotions of some of the best writers in the Indian movie industry. Thank you AC for giving them this platform.